The purity of their Islam -- this is ever the basis of the jihadist appeal, and is ever ignored and downplayed by Western analysts, rather than studied so that it can be effectively combatted. From AP:
An al-Qaida front group lashed out Sunday at a key nationalist Sunni Muslim insurgent faction in a rare criticism of a follow rebel group, accusing it of betraying religion by joining the US forces in their fight against al-Qaida.In a statement posted on at least two Islamic Web forums used by Iraqi insurgents, the Islamic State of Iraq, an umbrella groups of insurgent factions dominated by al-Qaida, called on members of the 1920 Revolution Brigades to repent during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.
"We call on the leaders and wise men of the (1920 Revolution) Brigades to reconsider where this path will lead them and, swearing to God, we tell them that you have betrayed your religion and the pure blood of your martyrs," the statement said.
"betraying islam"???
Knowing their mentality that means "they lost their war" and on some cases, got captured...
...reminiscent of stalin's mentality, that of labelling his own as traitors, even for small things like losing a battle and getting captured, the islamicommie mental midgetry spews forth...
You ask that we comment on blocked access to Jihad Watch.
The other day I was in Panera's, their Wi-Fi web site blocker blocked out Jihad Watch.
I was in Panera's the other day using their free Wi-Fi.
Jihad Watch was blocked.
Panera's?...hmmm, sounds familiar...east coast?
Just curious (I'm in CA)
Head line: Muslims seek pure Islam
Al-Qaida accuses Iraqi insurgent group of betraying Islam
Farfur group accuses Al-Qaida and insurgent group of betraying Islam
Mickey Mouse Muslims accuse Farfur, Al-Qaida and insurgent group of betraying Islam
Fibrahim Hooper accuses Mickey Mouse Muslims, Farfur, Al-Qaida and insurgent group of betraying Islam
All agree Jews source of problem
Special to the New York Times by corespondent Jim Nutter...
Sunni fighting Shi'ite, Shi'ite fighting Shi'ite, Sunni fighting Sunni. Both of them fighting Kurds. All of them fighting infidels. For such a Peaceful Religion (tm), they sure do resort to resolving their differences through violence quite often.
Have to wonder.
One takes the view that one is not against muslims, but one is against islamists.
Is that like saying one supports the troops but one is against the war (the curious Dem position)?
If muslims rejected sharia, supremicism and jihad, one could live with them.
Would they still be muslims ?
The Shite-on-Shite violence in Basra is no longer counted as ‘secretarian violence’.
The Sunni-on-Al Qaeda violence discussed here is no longer counted as ‘secretarian violence’.
If a Shia shoots a Sunni in the forehead it is now a criminal act, no longer ‘secretarian violence’.
If a Shia shoots a Sunni in the back of the head though, it is ‘secretarian violence’.
Car bombs reportedly don’t count anymore either, because we wouldn’t want to encourage that behavior.
‘Secretarian violence’ is down.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090502466_pf.html
"Evil always accuses first what it practices"
19-20 Revolution Brigade? Does that refer to the IQ distribution of its followers?
The Islamic state of Iraq needs to bring in more Saudi martyrs to gain it's foot hold.
Nah...they do however need to bring more in for our boys target practice as the islamists get caught up in the vortex of the meat grinder it is for them.
Then again, more and more of them know it's suicide now, so they may not find it as glorious as it once seemed...especially with the laundered money drying up, which was the only reason that motivated them anyway.
Back to topic...
looks like more and more coming out...that some of these bewildering "accusations" bears more profound schizms than some admit to...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20920365/site/newsweek/
obl & his bandit bunch are losing their grip...and he's getting paranoid...
Reports coming out of #2 Zawahiri is on top because obl is ailing & incapacitated...
http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/geostrategy-direct/
...making him look lame (the literal definition) and feeble, which doesn't show their maniacal mayhem in a favorable light to the followers, and would-be/wannabes in the making...
...ya see, there ARE advantages to NOT going in an killing the little scumbag outright (which would only make him a martyr-and his maniacs even more empowered)...we denied him that which he wanted most: martyrdom fighting the infidels.
Now he's a stroke-ridden, washed-up, has-been, both in the followers eyes...and his...leaving the rest of the loonies to fight over the scraps even before he's dead, like jackals at a mass feeding.
Meanwhile, the entire world sees it...as well as their axis bro's, from the philippines to iran-syria, to gaza, to algeria, to even their insurgents here in the west, masquerades falling apart at the seams...they are NOT happy right now.
WORLD SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2007
JERUSALEM — Israeli rabbinic authorities have abruptly called on Jews to shun a major Christian tourism event, baffling and upsetting evangelical groups that traditionally have been big supporters of the Jewish state.
More than 6,000 Christians from more than 90 nations are expected to arrive in Jerusalem this week to take part in the 28th annual Christian celebration of the weeklong Jewish holiday of Sukkot, or Feast of Tabernacles, according to the event's organizers, the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem.
Thousands of Christians take part in the celebration annually, as do Israeli lawmakers, government representatives and ordinary Israelis. Rabbi Shlomo Goren, a former chief rabbi, personally welcomed participants one year.
But this year the chief rabbinate urged Jews to stay away from the event, saying some of the groups want to convert them to Christianity. Proselytizing is illegal in Israel.
"According to information that has reached the chief rabbinate, there are participants in this conference who convert Jews to Christianity and perform missionary activity throughout the year," said Rabbi Simcha Hacohen Kook, the chief rabbi of Rehovot, who took part in committee discussions of the matter. "This is against the law, so the chief rabbinate is calling upon Jews not to take part in the conference."
Israel has laws against missionary work, and for many here, proselytizing is dangerously close to the forced conversions European Jews endured for centuries.
The group's organizers said they were upset by the rabbis' call.
"It is disappointing to learn that some rabbinic authorities are trying to discourage the Jewish public from participating in this traditional march," said the Rev. Malcolm Hedding, the ICEJ's executive director.
"The ICEJ has never conducted any missionary programs in Israel and we clearly instruct our Feast pilgrims against such activity during their stay here."
Benny Elon, a religious lawmaker who heads parliament's Christian Allies Caucus, questioned why the rabbinate's ruling was handed down now, after the event took place for 27 years with the understanding on both sides that missionary activity was off limits.
At a time when Israel is under threat of attack from Iran and other sources of radical Islam, it should not alienate Christians who "are the most important ally against this danger," said Elon, adding that he's received telephone calls from dozens of Christian friends of Israel disturbed by the ruling.
"We have to be wary of missionary activity," he said. "But after we know it and they (the Christians) know it and it's on the table, it is embarrassing to suddenly have a campaign against Christians. I don't know who is spearheading this. I hope the chief rabbis will explain this."
The ICEJ estimated the Sukkot event would infuse as much as $18 million into the local economy. That point wasn't lost on event organizers, who said the evangelical event — which they described as a "huge boost" to Israel's tourism industry — would take place despite the rabbinate's call.
According to the Old Testament Book of Zechariah, all nations will make pilgrimages to Jerusalem in the messianic era to celebrate Sukkot. Christians have interpreted this to mean that Sukkot is a holiday where Jews welcome non-Jews to join them in celebration in Jerusalem.
There has been a growing alliance in recent years between right-wing Israeli groups and some evangelical Christians who believe Jews must return to the biblical Land of Israel to facilitate a Second Coming of Christ.
The Israeli government has forged close ties with conservative American Christians in recent years, and evangelical groups have contributed millions of dollars to Israel. These Christian groups also oppose territorial concessions to the Palestinians who want to establish a state in areas Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast War.
The ICEJ says its supporters do not accept teachings accepted by some other Christian groups that masses of Jews will die in the final climactic battle between God and Satan if they do not accept Jesus.
If Israel has laws against proselytizing, then what makes them any better than the Saudis?
They don't go around killing the proselytizers.
..cracks in the militant Muslim dam appearing?...
There is an excellent report written by Kimberly Kagan from the Institute for the tudy of War called Iraq Report: Irans Proxy War against the United States and the Iraqi Government.
Another by David Kilcullen: Anatomy of a Tribal Revolt. The tribal revolt is interesting in that the final straw for the Sunni sheiks was AQ forcing the tribes to turn over females to marry, thus making them a part of the tribe. One theory as to why the tribes would turn is that the tribal connections outdate and are stronger than Islam.
That too...but if there's no money to be had, it tends to make a huge difference.
I think you're on the right track, FiveO.
"the final straw for the Sunni sheiks was AQ forcing the tribes to turn over females to marry, thus making them a part of the tribe. "
....AQ also had the nasty habit of raping female family members in front of men who refused to fight......yep...