"Egyptian man forces his wife to be circumcised," from the Associated Press:
CAIRO, Egypt - An Egyptian man forced his 20-year-old wife to be circumcised after a year of marriage, resulting in her hospitalization for acute bleeding, the state-run news agency reported on Saturday.
According to the police commissioner of the Cairo’s gritty northern suburb of Shubra el-Kheima cited by the Middle East News Agency, a dispute erupted between Shaaban el-Menshawi and his wife because she had never been circumcised, a once common operation in Egypt that has since been banned by the government.
When her husband started beating her, Ashgan Riyadh Abdelati fled to her mother’s house. Once there, however, her mother brought in a doctor to conduct the illegal operation on the spot, said the news report.
The escalation from argument to beating brings to mind Qur'an 4:34: "... As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them..."
Abdelati was later admitted to Nasser General Hospital for acute bleeding. Hospital officials declined to comment on her condition.
Egypt has been reeling from two cases of young girls, one 12- and 13-year old, dying from the operation of the summer, prompting the government to renew its largely ineffective ban on the practice.
Female circumcision, which is also known as female genital mutilation, is a widespread traditional procedure in Egypt, practiced by Muslims and Christians alike.
Despite the fact that top clerics insist the practice has nothing to do with Islam, many Egyptians, especially in lower income rural and urban areas, believe the removal of the clitoris lowers a women’s sexual desires and thus helps maintain their honour.
Actually, the practice was traditionally considered obligatory by the Shafi school of Islamic jurisprudence ('Umdat al-Salik e4.3), and the Grand Mufti of Egypt banned it only this past June.
Female circumcision is still practiced in parts of sub-Saharan Africa and Egypt, as well as in Yemen and Oman.
A 2003 survey by UNICEF said that 97 percent of married women in Egypt have undergone genital mutilation, though a recent study by the country’s Health Ministry found that only 50.3 percent of girls between the age of 10-18 years have been circumcised.
"An Egyptian man forced his 20-year-old wife to be circumcised after a year of marriage, resulting in her hospitalization for acute bleeding, the state-run news agency reported on Saturday."
"When her husband started beating her"
Rumor has it, he did it all in the name of love!
::puke::
This is not circumcision! Let him be the first to be honored by eunuch!
How the hell did the guy know the difference?
After a year?
Something's screwy here.
ISLAM: a cut below the rest.
Only in Egypt will doctors make a house call to mutilate a woman's genitals.
She must have been enjoying her wifely obedience too much.
Poor girl, beaten by her macho muslim beast of a husband and betrayed by her own mother! I can almost predict her future and it isn't promising.
She dishonored her family by leaving her husband and returning to her parents' home. She belongs to her husband now, to do with as he pleases. She was already considered defective merchandise by the husband, which could be grounds for divorce. AFter almost bleeding to death, the news is out that her parents were remiss in their duty to provide the husband with a "circumsized" bride; the husband lived in anger and humiliation for a year because she wasn't properly maimed for marriage; the doctor performed illegal surgery against her will at the mother's request, and the mother requested it so the husband would not divorce her. This poor girl; abused, butchered, betrayed, will now probably be murdered by her own family for dishonoring them. They will wait until she is released from the hospital, welcome her home, and then kill her while she sleeps. She's history.
Maybe the beast she married will get AIDS from a prostitute and die in a gutter. He deserves much worse. The culture spawned by islam has no legitimate excuse to exist in the 21st century; it belongs in Hell. When will muslim women wake up and revolt en masse against the slavery and brutality imposed on them by this obscenity called islam?!
There is no humor in Islam, and apparently no orgasms for women, either.
Hirsi Ali said that her FGM did not stop her desire. It only prevented pleasure. Making the marriage bed an unhappy place to be avoided.
He probably just wanted a reason to have another wife.
Time and time again Islam shows the world its the Devils religion.
This stuff makes me so angry.
How dare these people do this to her.
/spit
I just have no other words...it can't cover it.
"Female circumcision is still practiced in parts of sub-Saharan Africa and Egypt, as well as in Yemen and Oman."
A grossly misleading statement, to say the least. It is practiced wherever people from these parts of the world go. Morever, Yemen and Oman aren't islands, they are part of the Arabian Peninsula, which tells you the practice is widespread there. Finally, as Marisol noted, it was considered obligatory by the Shafi school until just this past June. Wherever Shafi is the predominant school of Sunni Islam, there FGM is practiced.
That said, the practice has been modified greatly from region to region. In Malaysia, female circumcision occurs, but ironically, it consists of slicing the hood of the clitoris, resulting in the exposure of the organ. Hardly a recipe for controlling sexual excitement, I would think.
How dare these creatures do this.
islam tells us that their allah made all and is bloody perfect but the practioners of the cult of islam then proceed to cover up,subjugate and imprison 50% of their population and then cut bits of them off.
If allah is so damn perfect why would you hide and mutilate 50% of his human creations.
They are such sick creatures they are not fit to be included in the human race.
Susanp posted above and I know how she feels.
I for one will fight the filth that is islam until my dying breath.
"If allah is so damn perfect why would you hide and mutilate 50% of his human creations"
I don't think allah is in on this one, Arabs hated women way before Allah came on the scene.
Warning: graphic disturbing images
http://middle-east-info.org/league/somalia/fgmpictures.htm
Articles:
http://www.challenging-islam.org/articles/circumcision.htm
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk/DiscView.asp?mid=864&forum_id=2
REPORT:
http://middle-east-info.org/league/somalia/hosken.pdf
Multiple reports: (Scroll halfway down)
http://middle-east-info.org/gateway/genocide/index.htm
This show that the Crusade by WHO to end all female circumicision is doom to failure. Than better cousre would be to allow the cutting of the tip of the clitoris and only banning infibulation which cause a hell lot mote harm to the woman than cutting off the tip of the clitoris. America ban alcohol from being tranport, manufactor, and the selling of alchol from 1920 to 1938 bur enforcement by the Fed and most states last 1920 to 1934 when FDR oeder the halt to enforcement as it was causeing disorder in socierty at large. I have my doubt about that only 50% of the girls between 10 and 18 are circumicisize they are just showing WHO that thing atr getting better wirh misleading number. It canmean mother are waiting when the girls is over 18 to do female circumicision so it doesnot show up in the state report and the state can alway say sibce she is than adult she wanred it done. I wrote to the Secretary Geeneral of UN that banning all female circumicision isnot going to worked, it would be better to just to
have Moslim countries ban infibulation only than allow the over to be done in medical clinics.
Defender -
Tell you what - why don't you go and have your penis cut off? Better yet, why don't you stop trying to defend what is indefensible?
Here's hoping the Secretary General of the UN didn't agree with your letter, that is, if he could even make sense of it.
Hey muslim:
This is being done to YOUNG GIRLS agaimst their will, not "women". IT'S AGAINST THE LAW AND PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TIME.
muslim men would be much happier with their lives and CERTAINLY much calmer if they were castrated and their penises dug out by the root, to the bone, as happens with females. Equality.
I wonder why it isn't their choice?
No, wait . . . no castration, just the penis dug out, so they can still have desire but no PLEASURE, like the females.
CGW, those posts are grotesque reminders of how islam treats women.
The comments from muslim women who deny this even happens to those who 'prefer' this procedure because it heightens their pleaure demonstrate the continuum of internalization. These women have a Stockholm Syndrome as it relates to their sexuality. It's probably the only way they can survive.
Islam-a Hobson's choice-stay and be mutilated, leave and be killed.
"a recent study by the country’s Health Ministry found that only 50.3 percent of girls between the age of 10-18 years have been circumcised."
...wow, and the remaining 49.7% are in for a surprise when they get married....
...Ban Muslim Immigratgion...
...50.3 per cent...as if I believe a Muslim Government....
Marilyn - you've echoed something I've wondered about. To these people Allah is perfect, not to be questioned -- so who are these people to mess with his creation?
This is why Muslim's much kill women who marry Christians and Jews. We make better husbands! Just look at the rates of Mulsim and non-Muslim spousal abuse in Europe.
Religions only need rules if there is a problem. Even in Mohammad the False Prophet's time, women must have been marrying better non-Muslim men, so he made up a rule.
Also, instead of reducing a wife's desire through mutilation of the labia and clitoris, why not just satisfy her often? But alas, this is just infidel Christian thinking ;) .
A famous Jewish rabbi once said that Jewish couples should make love four times on the Sabbath. When asked whether he did, he replied, "No, just once, but with the passion of four times!" This is just infidel Jewish thinking ;) .
Imagine, if Defender of Islam had a loving relationship with his wife and if she actually had the ability to enjoy having sex with him? Oh-my-gosh, the horrors!!
Defender, you poor, pathetic little man. So I guess what you are telling us is that your wife has been desensitized so she can no longer enjoy sex because you don't trust her. I would say that shows more of a problem with you than with her. Rather than telling us about the inevitability of FGM coming to American shores, (with your especially inane comparison to Prohibition,) we all here could really benefit from you sharing with us your personal and perhaps professional knowledge of the Muslim male's sexual insecurities. Explain to us why Muslim men are so afraid of women and women's. It's pretty obvious that you guys are scared, otherwise you wouldn't put so much emphasis on getting laid but then do everything you can to prevent the objects of your desire from benefitting in any way. That's a little selfish, don't you think?
Also, could you explain what the purpose was of killing animals that you've had sex with, according to the Ayatollah Khomeini? Was that to hide the evidence of your sin or was it a kind of sacrifice to Allah for committing that sin? That is really convenient, to screw a goat or a woman and then have them killed to cover up your illicit act. A little self serving, don't you think? Even 99.99% of western men who are jaded wouldn't think of killing a women to cover up tha fact that they needed to get their rocks off and did so.
No Defender, let's look at the real problem here. It's not that women can't be trusted and must be controlled, it's that you and your Muslim male compadres have serious emotional problems, probably stemming from childhood. I bet you all feel guilty because instead of honoring your mother, which is one of the ten commandments, you took advantage of the situation that your dad set up whenever he beat her and didn't have to do what she said. This also allowed you to win any argument with your sisters who were probably much more intelligent than you since girls mature faster than boys. I'm sure this set up a harmful mental conflict in you because you knew they were right but you could hide your inferiority complex with a backhand to the mouth. I would imagine that winning by that kind of cheating would make any normal man feel really guilty, but because Muslim men must hide their shame at all cost it is much easier in your world to blame the weaker sex, or a dumb animal, to cover up any crimes you've committed against humanity. But I don't even think that makes you happy, so in the Muslim world their is equal opportunity misery.
That belief just doesn't jive with the right to the pursuit of happiness that is enshrined in our constitution. Sorry dude, but it won't play in
Peoria...or L.A...or D.C...or Alabama. Oh, and while I've been on vacation I've educated another dozen people as to the dangers to our freedom and I gave Robert's new book to my senior year religion teacher whom with I had the pleasure of reconnecting. My friends are concerned and we are organizing. You are in such deep Kimshee.
Americans will not give up their beer nor will they give up their women's orgasms. Remember that when you get yourself into a fix you can't get out of.
"I have my doubt about that only 50% of the girls between 10 and 18 are circumicisize ..."
Posted by: DefenderofIslam
....only 50%....i suppose you agree it is much higher...which it probably is....
Ban Muslim Immigration...
Given that this kind of mutilation is against Egyptian law, will there be some kind of CONSEQUENCES for the "doctor" who so kindly obliged the mother and flaunted the law?
Despite the Grand Mufti's pronouncement that FGM is forbidden by Islam there are still other clerics who support it.
Conclusion: Egyptian law means nothing; people who violate the law will not be prosecuted; one cleric's fatwa/opinion is as good as another's; no one speaks for Islam which is just a make-it-up-as-you-go "religion" with no accountability in it either; and high-level clerical pronouncements about the meaning of Islam are worthless.
"[B]y their fruits ye shall know them." Or, Islam is what Muslims do.
They try to prove they are better than God. God did not create things perfect or he would of had women born without such perfections. Men on the other hand are perfect arn't they? What needs to be changed with them? Eunuchs, make them! They use it unwisely any ways cut them off! child molesters too!
I use to like Egypt when I was growing up. They too live in a error of darkness never ascending.
what is next? Removing the brain.
First most woman group in the west are retinking the ban on female circumicision which isnot working and will never work. The UN leader want to avoid than cultural and religious war between the west and Islam he will mostly likely be open to my idear. 95% of the girls in egpy are circumicion. Only 2% of the muslim man want to be marry to than woman who infibulation expect in Sudman where 98% want they wife to be infibulation. No muslim woman wanted to be infibulation but 97% donot mind have the tip of the clitoris cut off.The religious in Saudic Arabric know what they are doing haveing the tip of the woman clitoris cut off no change of out cry or unrest, it they try to secrectly infibulation the woman there will be than out cry and unrest in the kingtom. I was apointed to see there is no major war on Earth by Allah(God). There are limit to what I can change in culture or religious belief so since female circumicision cannot be ban why not ban the one that does the most harm to than woman.
"I was apointed to see there is no major war on Earth by Allah (God)."
Posted by DefenderofIslam 6;43 pm
Defender,
This does not sound like the Allah I know...are you sure it wasn't God?
Good Luck.
Of course the ban can be changed. We women in the west get things done once we decide to do something. And perhaps it is good that Muslims will try to introduce this practice in the U.S. because just like Fibrahim Hooper with all his mischief, FGM advocates will get their noses swatted, just like the dogs they are, with a rolled up newspaper. Western women, as well as men, won't stand for this and with all our social services, rape hotlines, women's advocacy groups and the like, good luck on establishing this in my country. We will prosecute your butt to the fullest extent of the law. And then we can start the civil lawsuits against perpetrators, like the ones the Catholic Church has been paying millions to settle.
Hmmm...that's a good idea. Instead of the west paying Islam to destroy us we'll have oil rich Muslim countries pay us whenever they try to practice sadism on little girls. And with all the FGM atrocities committed in Egypt and other ME countries, we can go through the U.N. and eventually bankrupt you.
Thanks Defender! I like it!
Isabellathecrusader the west will change slowly as people convert to Islam. My letter also said adult moslim in the west who want the tip of they clitoris cut off since they are adult asking for the operation it isnot rape of than child. It like when the Pagon of Rome try to stop christian, rhey assue the childern of eating human flesh and drinking human blood during they religish rite. There is than federal law on the book since the early 20th century
which make it tllegal to cross state lines to have sexual relation with than woman even it you are married to her it is not enforce at all. Image it they did enforce that law all the problen they would have with angery people and the legal system would fall under all the trails and lawsuits of people sueing the government. If than parent bring over her child that was circumicism there is no legal case as it happen in a different nation than america law donot apply to nation. Like it than america man and woman have sex oversea america laws will not apply as no america law was broken.
Isabella - I'm with you.
Maybe we need someone like Nancy Grace to rattle some cages about this issue. I know she can be shrill, and I'm cynical enough to think she'd do it for ratings and no sense of sisterhood, but she's still going on about Natalie Hollaway(sp?), isn't she? It's a start.
Even in Iran 99.99% of the muslim men wellnot want to have sex with than child or marry one they want adult women not than child, The one who do arenot consider by moslim to be moslim at all. The few princes in Saudic Arabic who have sex with little girls or marry little girls arenot consider moslim by many moslim around the world and Allah does not approval of that, the mother who sell her daughter to have sex with than man also isnot consider than good mother or moslim.
CapitalistGig-
You've hit on the perfect definition-
Islam: stay and be mutilated or leave and be killed.
Okay Defender, I can put up with your crappy English because if you are not from here and never learned it properly I'm willing to give you a pass. But your logic is another thing.
You've stated that "My letter also said adult moslim in the west who want the tip of they clitoris cut off since they are adult asking for the operation it isnot rape of than child." Now go back and read the beginning of the article. It says:
"An Egyptian man forced his 20-year-old wife to be circumcised after a year of marriage, resulting in her hospitalization for acute bleeding, the state-run news agency reported on Saturday."
So you've lied again. Where in this story of the Muslim man forcing his wife to be "circumcised" does it say that "adult moslim in the west who want the tip of they clitoris cut off since they are adult asking for the operation...?" Or did you mean that the MUSLIM MAN was the one who wanted the tip cut off and was the adult asking for the operation?
Who the hell do you Muslim men think you are to have anything to do with anyone's private parts but your own? I'm telling everyone, EVERYONE about your preverted little power trips and pre-occupation with other peoples privates which makes you a total pervert. No one I know is converting to Islam, slowly or otherwise.
And I guess the Ayatollah Khomeini was not a spiritual leader in Islam and I guess you as a Muslim man get to pick and choose what parts of Islam you'd like to follow and all the Imams are A-Okay with that. Puleeeeze! We know how you lie. Sell it to the Martians, would ya!
Miss GoldieLox,
(Great name!) I like your idea about Nancy Grace. But she's finally happily married and expecting and since she's high profile and Defender's buddies might threaten to kill her, I don't know if she's up for it right now. But since you and I are twice the man Defender is I say we make it a goal to educate at least two people a day about what Islam is really about.
A year ago I had people telling me that "Oh no, Islam isn't like that" but this year I see concerned looks and hear stories from my friends, associates and acquaintances about things that they see happening and what they think we should do about it. Defender's little game is just like Naseem's, to make us think that the games over and they've won. Well they may have big mouths and may be able to type a somewhat coherent sentence but the truth is they aren't that powerful. They are fighting an uphill battle and trying to make us think we are. No one in America is going to stand for Muslims slicing up our little girl's privates. They are cutting to the quick of who we are as a civilized society. I know dozens of mothers right off the top of my head who would kill Defender if he ever got near their little girls, and yet he waxes poetically about what a great thing FGM is.
Defender tries to speak with authority but let's face it, he's a pervert and a perp and perhaps we should try and track him down and turn him over to the authorities since advocating child sexual abuse on the Internet is a crime and punishable by prison and being marked for life as a child sex offender. In a country where these perps are regularly captured and brought to justice through
Internet sting operations, I seriously doubt that just because someone is Muslim they can get away with doing this awful thing. If a doctor saw this in an exam of a young female patient the scarring would be evidence against the family that allowed it. So much for Defender's protection against U.S. laws. And so much for his dum-de-dum-dum logic.
defender you are an idiot, perv. Your posts confirm exactly what is said about islam and muslims....sick.
Leave the women alone.
Isbellathecrusader how would you like to charge with slander. I said if than moslim family moved to USA than they daughter is already circumicision they btoke no america law as america law donot apply outside of america than if a crime in the nation where they came from than that nation take no action or it legal in that nation our court will refuse to hear the case as it is outside of they area where they have legal autherity. Most likely than DA will refuse to take the case as he lack legal authorithy
since it happen outside of area of authorithy, he or she can contact the legal authority oversea but it they refuse to do nothing no case, or they say just action are legal there no case. International Arrest warrent are only good for 6 month unless renew. The reason for that time limit is due that it was and still impossible to tell each police station on this planet that either the person was arrest or the warrent is cancel as person isnot want anymore. You better get use to than multcultural world . Than I said most moslim in Iran DONOT want sex with a child at all which since I never said anything that can be taken as than crime you slander have no case at all. Good moslim donot consider anyone who have sex with a child as than moslim. Than DA once looking into the claim that Muhammad marry than 5 year old child he found there is no creditable evidence that just thing ever happen. The only person who make that claim was than very old man not round when the event he claim happen happen, there is good evident that he was senile and all other scholar's where adsive to not believe what he wroten when he retire ri his home in Iraq unless other proof exist to support his claim and no other proof was ever found. There is good proof that Aishah was between 16 and 19 year old, first the arabic word use to say how old she was the use to desribe young adult of 16 to 19 year old, there is than other word use to desribe than 5 to 9 year old girl. Many of his enemies attend the wedding than none of then never said he marry Aishah when she was 5 year old.
Also in Muhammad time and before his time no man ever married than 5 year old girl. So it just than event happen everybody in Arabic would talk about just than sandator. Since no just sandator was mention by anyone in his time it didnot happen, look at what happen when Woodly Alien married his adoptare daughter than very newpapy in america talk about it. The AG of New York State have to state that Woodly broke no State law when he marries her as she isnot his bio father.The state was talking about charging him with insert sex before he married her but than research of the law said it have to be than bio father as the law was written.Woodly in my option have no right to marry her but my personal option have no bearing in laws.
Than before you cry that hearsay evidence is being use to clear Muhammad good name slander in cases that happen in the past an wittness cannot be called to testically court do allow into evidence things which will normal be consider hearsay evidence.
Woodly Alien?
That's Hedley Lamarr, not Heddy!
Woodly Alien?
That's Hedley. Hedley Lamarr, not Heddy!
"50.3 per cent...as if I believe a Muslim Government" - exsgtbrown
i understand your doubts, but this could be more true than not.
many years ago (1990ish, from memory), C4 in the UK did a documentary about Nawal El Saadawi, and filmed her going around talking with Egyptian villagers about FGM.
most of the WOMEN (!!!)she spoke to insisted that their daughters had been done, or would be done at an appropriate time. what i remember most vividly was the quiet determination of one villager who said that her daughter had not been, and would not be. she had simply decided that it was WRONG. back then, she would have little chance of protecting her daughter if the rest of family were against her, but now perhaps the Egyptian government will begin to support to those in a similar position.
if indeed Egypt has been "reeling" from the shock of these recent cases, then i think we can take a little comfort, because it shows that the fight is on-going and not lost. or at least, not yet.
"Isbellathecrusader how would you like to charge with slander."
Bring it on, if you think you can, dumbshit. I won't worry though; you'll be in jail long before you can contact an attorney after the authorities catch you on the Internet. Ooh, did I touch a little nerve Defender? YOU'D better get used to total resistance and after you've pushed too far, total retaliation. You can't imagine the Lorena Bobbitts in the U.S. that will want to get a hold of you once they read this thread. I'm copying it and sending it to everyone I know.
If I recall there was an article about some Muslim father who had cut out his two year old daughter's clitoris with a pair of scissors somewhere on the east coast, I think in New Jersey, and the trial came about in the past year. Guess what? He was convicted and put in prison. Any Jihad Watchers that can help me out here with a link? So I guess we're back to your Islamic fairy tales that have no substance, just bullshit. But keep it up, Defender. We're celebrating Labor Day today and you are the family's entertainment. ; )
First he btoke america law, but his daughter was 18 year old she can legality ask than doctor to do so remember the woman have control of her body say woman lib. After my ex-wife almostly railroad me under false charges of wife abuse. First the police didnot believe her when I sent 45 minutes talking to the police officer who got the called after he and I finich eating. The called telling him to go apartment where we live as she was complain that I sent the last hour beating the shit out of and I just left, practical all police office knew my on sight an he call his commander telling her that he sent the last 45 minutes talking to me 10 miles away
walking distance not line of sight from the place, she said so she lieing about him beating her up so her take her police report and compliant. The new young DA never brother to investable on his owm her stories about abouting beating her up very day and he total refuse to believe the police reports saying
that I never beat her up as I was never there when she claim I was. Than arrest warrent was issue on me as the grand jury intict him and the entire police force refuse to arrest me than acturily bury the warrent in a desk draw. Finality her sister from out of state turn her in by writeing to the DA stateing when she visit her for two week
she was bang her face on the table to make it look like I was beating her and she never saw me beat her of hit her in 10 years. The DA and two special master from the court went to the rent house than saw throught window she banging her face on the table to make it look like I beat her up. Her lawyer was total mad at her falseky accueing than person of wife abuse> When I finalily saw the best criminal lawyer before her sister letter to the DA. He ask me if I ever beat her up and he is bound by client-att privage to never tell anybody if I did or not beat her up,the mostly expensive jewisk lawyer only charge me 500 dollar the only time I was charge money for legal service. To make it short that I would lose but her lawyer demand since she committ prejury and falsely accue somebody and lie to her own lawyer that the case be reopen. The DA was order by than special court hearing to undo the grand jury intenint against me. The jury grant than divorce I have to paid zero alimony as she was asking for 4500 dollar than month and I was earning only 11000 dollar ayear pruminemt for prejury and the court will list on the deed all of her false charges against me but will issue no writ of protection pruminent for false charges. NOW(woman libber) try for year to appeal this an lost very appeal, they try other state courts and all court said no as only New York State Court have legal authority in this case. Ever since I study alittle bit of legal law and history.
That woman that have hern feeding tude remove by her hushand so he can married than other woman was than very misleading far right wing christian fundie attack ob the right to die laws in america they arenot mercy-killing just law that allow patient and family member to tell doctor that it they are vegetable with no hope of living than normal life, or the brain is dead not to keep the bodies live with life support ecpect in the rare case of than pregeant woman who is 8 month pregeant so the baby can be delieve as the baby can still be alive. For ten year that woman was brain dead only herselfish mother and father want to keep body alive, in acase like I see nothing wrong with than man find than other woman to love than care for and you will have to move forward with your life. Those far rightwing christian lawyer only prolong the poor man suffering
as she love his first wife since she is brain dead let him have her body die so she be bury and his life can move foeward. Instead her family and far eight lawyer fought 10 year legal battle with very court of law sideing with the hushand tight to have his wife body die as her brain die along time ago so she can rest in peace. Many7 muslim scholar
have no problen with the right to die law which give the partient in our high tech medical lifesupport to keep than brain dead body alive for
along time.
So, did you beat up your ex-wife or not?
I never bear up my wife. The only time I hit her when she want to kill herself with than buther knife, I only hit the wraist of the hand rhat held
the knife force her hand to open up droping the knife and I put my foot on the drop knife on the floor after disarming I didnot hit her. Some jewish lady told me that she needed than operation they do on woman in the middleeast to calm her down. No man on this planet would match her sex drive which make her unhappy. Plus she might have being than woman who want to beat up there are sick woman like that.
No wonder she divorced you, and you're all for FGM. You couldn't satisfy her.
American women want SATISFACTION. It's their right.
Typical muslim male. Can't perform.
Defender,
I do feel sorry for you and I don't hate you. But man, your thinking is just messed up. Taking away a woman's God given right to an orgasm to "calm her down" is just ludicrous. God made men and women the way that He did to enjoy each other during the marital act and to take away one half of a couple's pleasure purposely is not only idiotic and cruel but it makes Muslim men look like total wimps. How about a little practiced self control or even learning of relationship skils (ala Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars...) rather than deliberately mutilating one of God's greatest creations, woman.
I talked to my priest about you yesterday and we both agreed that I should pray for your conversion. I already do that at the consecration of the Mass on Sundays but I'm going to include you in my daily Rosary prayers because you've got to wake up. You've obviously thought about a lot of things as you post about many different subjects. I hear the pain and frustration that you are experiencing and I'd like to help. But your pain will not be assuaged by forcing my country to share in the misery of your own. I'm praying for you to see the light and find true peace, which will never be found in the knife of an FGM butcher.
Than woman with my ex-wife illness is the most of unhappy woman many kill themself as no mam can sexual please then,no man can keep up with sexual need many are driven to unsafe sex like snutt sex where the woman is murder. New York State court many time try to save marriage but in the case of woman like my ex-wife they donot try to save the marriage. If the west was to get over FGM than look that in certain case it might help than woman be happy married to than man who love her. Let say 18 year ago the court gave her a choice about have the tip of clitoris cut off and she choose that. Let say it make her easyer to pleasure sexual and make it easy for both man wife meet each other sexual needed and it make her happy that she was married to man who love her instead feeling unfully sexual need. Give you than idear of what she like she was 20 year older than me I married her when I was 29 and she was 49 and the married when I was 39 year old and she was 59 year old and she have sex with 10 young
studs one at atime and she was still not sexual fully abd not able to have sexual pleasure at all.
One in a million woman have this illness there is no know cure fot it. She was happy married to me for 9 and 1/2 years than the longest married she ever have most other man divorce her.
CGW you donot know what you are talking back then I was than Christian. If you are aman you better hope you married and love than woman with the rare illness my wife have. First many of the woman who have it killed thenself as no man can sexual fullly they sexual needed. When my wife was 59 year old after her divore from me have 10 young stud 16 to 17 year old have sex with her one after the other and she have no orgamize at all and she wore then out.
Excuses, excuses . . . if you think American women are going to undergo FGM because you couldn't satisfy your wife, you're out of your mind.
Is that what turned you to "allah'? Non-performance syndrome? Or did you want to match up size with all the other muslims? (TINY)
Seconding CGW's first point.
Furthermore: whatever was wrong with 'Defender's' wife - IF he is telling the truth - it sounds to me like something wrong with the hormones and/or the nervous system. Sexual response in women is awesomely complex - hormones, nerves, and brain are involved as well as genitals. Cutting bits off the genitals would do nothing to heal a hormonal or nervous system disorder.
And even if she WAS sick (with something he claims he was told was a very RARE condition) then his support for FGM still makes no sense at all. You don't destroy the sex lives of millions of healthy women because of one woman with a problem that FGM wouldn't cure anyway !
However, I can see the horrid appeal of Islam to someone like him.
Islam decrees Total Male Domination of All Women.
By the way, have others here noticed that 'Defender's description of the alleged insatiability of his ex-wife strongly resembles the conventional Muslim idea that Woman is a terrifying volcanic mass of sexual desire who simply cannot control herself and therefore must be 'tamed', for her own good and that of society, by all sorts of harsh treatment ( including, in certain countries, FGM)? Nine parts of desire, and all that?