They have condemned terrorism, you see, but "a matching response had not been forthcoming." Instead, there is a growing "religious intolerance and xenophobia in the west" -- not like in the Islamic world! And what are they doing to help Muslims de-link Islam from terrorism? On that point they are silent.
And here we're told that the OIC condemned "forced religious conversions by majority religious groups, attacks of places of worship, restriction on the display of religious symbols and erosion of rights of parents to ensure moral education for their children." Great -- that, condemnations of violence and terror, and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. Have they condemned Islamic supremacism? The imperative to subjugate unbelievers by violent or peaceful means? What do you think?
"OIC urges de-linking Islam from terrorism," from KUNA (thanks to Twostellas):
GENEVA, Sept 13 (KUNA) -- The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), told the Human Rights Council (HRC) Thursday that the report of the Special Rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief called for stronger denunciation of violence by Muslim leaders in order to "de-link" Islam from terrorism. Representing the OIC, Pakistani diplomat Marghoob Saleem Butt said that there had been many such denunciations and a matching response had not been forthcoming. "The ever-growing incidents of religious intolerance and xenophobia in the west were taking the world far from its aim of religious and cultural harmony. The OIC condemned forced religious conversions by majority religious groups, attacks of places of worship, restriction on the display of religious symbols and erosion of rights of parents to ensure moral education for their children, " the diplomat added.
Meanwhile, what the OIC really wants is restriction of Western freedom of expression:
The representative of the OIC stressed that the Islamic countries deplored States that linked freedom of belief with freedom of expression and opinion in order to shrug off responsibility. "Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue. Equating religions with extremist terrorism was dangerous and it was essential to de-link terrorist acts from the right to peacefully follow one's faith," the diplomat added. The representative of the OIC said efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue.
efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue.
You first.
The MSM already does this.
Muslims say they think about islam every minute of every day. How can you de-link that?
More honey coated words that are increasingly ineffective, can we talk about the unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of faith in the West by Mulsims first.
Sure. Just as soon as the ashen remains of the 9/11 hijackers are separated from the remains of their victims.
Yeah - just as soon as I quit waking up and seeing on the media:
muslim homicide bombers\
muslims with AK47's in parking lots
muslims with nuclear packages in the back of their car
muslims with Death to America/Death to Israel posters at rallies
muslims calling us infidels
Bin Laden look alikes making threatening videos muslims persecuting and threatening Christians in Iraq
muslims handing out candy in Gaza on 911
muslims growing poppies
muslims enslaving Africans
muslims blowing up airport entrances
muslims asking for seatbelt extenders and sitting them on the floor
muslims feeling threatened by GPS systems in NY cabs
etc., etc., etc.
If you want us to THINK you are not for terrorism, let's see a million muslim march AGAINST terrorism and for freedom of religion! You can march against everything else. How about a fatwa against Bin Laden?
Not to worry - I won't hold my breath.
I have a much better suggestion. If they could "de-link" the terrorists from Islam, that would go a long way towards solving the problem.
"religious intolerance and xenophobia in the west"
Hey, Muhammed, let me know when the muslims adhere to their own advice and I might think about it.
"The OIC condemned forced religious conversions by majority religious groups, attacks of places of worship, restriction on the display of religious symbols and erosion of rights of parents to ensure moral education for their children, " the diplomat added."
Is this guy referring to Saudi Arabia?
"forced religious conversions by majority religious groups?"
hmmm...let's see...would that be Episcopalians kidnapping Methodists, Jews, and Muhammadans and threatening them with death if they don't become Episcopalian?
wtf is this guy talking about?
Good grief, what a load of TYYQAH!!!!
This is as true as I saying I have a certain bridge in Broklyn to sell to you. Good for a sarcastic laugh. LOL
Too late.
Cat's out of the bag.
Qur'an is on-line, available in many different translations, synoptically displayed. So are the Hadith, and the Sira.
And books are now appearing, in reprint, or in anthologies, making accessible the scholarship of Snouck Hurgronje, Lammens, Jeffer, Tisdall, Schacht, Margoliouth, Fattal, Vajda, K. S. Lal, and dozens of others, with more studies appearing every day. Even within MESA Nostra, cracks are appearing -- hidden dissidents, biding their time.
"OIC urges de-linking Islam from terrorism,"
My first flippant thought was - only when they stop doing it.
But, I thought a little more and realized that what I have been trying to tell others about one of their tactics against us being, terrorism, is not the only tactic they use against us. And yes, others have committed acts of terrorism which makes it too easy for muslims to use that as an excuse for them to ignore our claims they are terrorists.
This is why we really need to rename this war, and clearly define what we are fighting against. We can't keep letting muslims into our country without doing that. We don't know what we are letting in - are they radical, are they what the vast majority of people are hoping are 'moderate', or are they truly peaceful?
Until we understand islam we won't understand muslims. And until we know its history we won't be able to make a decision on who are enemy is and what we are fighting. This is why it is also so easy for the looney left to think this war has gone on too long and let their hatred of Bush be what decides our plan of action. So, I say - get off your behinds, world, and start cracking open some books! Read the archives on this site, and openly discuss islam without worrying about being called an islamophobe. If they are calling you a name such as that - why are they doing it? What is their fear?
This is my view on this. And not but not least, until they start doing what we want in the area of human rights and tolerance - I say we should ignore their requests such as this one. I know I will.
That OIC is a real barrel of laughs. Islam is the inspiration and justification why we have so many ISLAMIC terrorist attacks, but were just supposed to ignore that. Their attitude is typical "Who are you going to believe? Us or your lying eyes?"
It would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.
The Goobs,
"Yeah - just as soon as I quit waking up and seeing on the media:
muslim homicide bombers\
muslims with AK47's in parking lots
muslims with nuclear packages in the back of their car
muslims with Death to America/Death to Israel posters at rallies
muslims calling us infidels
Bin Laden look alikes making threatening videos muslims persecuting and threatening Christians in Iraq
muslims handing out candy in Gaza on 911
muslims growing poppies
muslims enslaving Africans
muslims blowing up airport entrances
muslims asking for seatbelt extenders and sitting them on the floor
muslims feeling threatened by GPS systems in NY cabs
etc., etc., etc.
If you want us to THINK you are not for terrorism, let's see a million muslim march AGAINST terrorism and for freedom of religion! You can march against everything else. How about a fatwa against Bin Laden? "
Not to worry - I won't hold my breath.
The Goobs, I can also add:
muslims getting all-bent-out-of shape over a group of twelve harmless cartoons of muhammed, over a harmless but true quote by Pope Benedict XVI, or the fact that this same muhemmed married a little six-year-old girl, and consummated this pedophile relationship when this same girl was 9.
Or how islam oppresses 50% of its members with abuse, honor killings, and hijabs. Or calling Jews and Christians pigs and apes. Or distroying religious places of worship of those of other faiths. Or force this religion down the throats or non-muslims, or worse slit those same throats. Or treat non-muslims like second class citizens or try to export that to the west.
OIC, as they say as the state motto of a certain state in the USA, "SHOW ME" real action!
Muslim countries urge non-Muslim West to de-link Islam from terrorism.
In a related story, Kentucky Fried Chicken has recently demanded that its five piece extra-crispy meal with mashed potatoes and a biscuit be declared fat free and unrelated to weight gain.
3:48 Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you.
4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
4:63 Oppose those who refuse to follow Muhammad.
4:101 The disbelievers are an open enemy to you.
"Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue."
This statement is Islamic new-speak, and some of your readers may need help in discyphering it:
unrestricted = certain topics like Islam and human rights in Muslim countries are off limits
disrespectful = never say anything negative about Mohammed, Islam, or Islamists
freedom = a Western term that has no place in the Middle East
expression = you can say it, but if it offends Islamists, they can kill you for saying it
spirit = an atmosphere based on Islamist rules
peaceful = see submission
dialogue = you be quiet and listen to what the Islamists have to say
The representative of the OIC said efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue.
Taqiya. Kitman.. bla bla bla.
Het, OIC.. EELIMINTATA THIS: your profet is a pedofile camledriving caravan raider who came upo wioth this clut called islam while in drunk stupor.
The adherents of his cult are nothing but apes and swine!
SUE ME BITCHES!!! I'm about to kick around a FOOTBALL that has a SOWdi Brbarian flag patch on it.. maybe I'll even let the ball roll into a steaming pile of New York dog sh•t.
JUST AS A FORM OF MY FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Because i think that your vile murderous cult is just that: a steaming pile of dogsh•t.
All you non-muslims repeat after me:
LAN ASTASLEM!
(translation: "I will not submit.")
Muslim countries urge non-Muslim West to de-link Islam from terrorism
I was too pissed to think clearly but I wanted to add that it IS UP TO moslems TO DELINK islam FROM TERRORISM!!!!
STOP HIJACKING PLANES AND FIRING ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL!! STOP THE BEHEADINGS AND THE FLAG BURNINGS AND THE INSULTING AND THREATENING DEMONSTRATIONS IN **OUR LANDS** ESPECIALLY!! STOP BOMBING OUR TRAINS AND OPUR SUBWAYS AND STOP SHOOTING PEOPLE AT SHOPPING MALLS AND STOP RAMMING YOUR SUVS [SINCE YOU ARE IN POVERTY YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAVE ON GAS] INTO GROUPS OF STUDENTS OR OTHERS PEOPLE ON OUR STREETS!!!!
Got it? Now be a good bunch of little moslems and START DELINKING ALREADY!!!
Get inside your terror burgs.. i meant mosks.. and START DELINKING....
We'll de-link when they de-kill.
Oh I would have to say this is a case of the lady douth protest to much ,
Insane in the Membrane!
The OIC representative cannot think straight. He's blowing gas.
If his lips are moving...he's lying.
But what's a Muhammadan to do? As long as they maintain the BIG LIE their brains can't function. They lie to themselves. They lie to their children. They're lied to by their fathers and mothers. Ignorance and the wall of lies is how they can call their violent, sick cult a peaceful religion. It requires ignorance or suspension of all critical faculties.
Muhammad a prophet?
No, he was a fiend, the anti-Christ, a liar and the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning.
But they lie and say the liar was not a liar, that the murderer was insan al-kamil, the perfect, complete man, that allah prayed to and for the fiend.
Muhammadans can't tell the truth. Islam's in the brain. "They're insane in the membrane."
Speaking of de-linking Islam from terrorism;
For those who weren’t watching the ‘young man with the semi-automatic rifle and bullet-proof vest shoot it out with police and knock down four’ story unfold on TV yesterday, the first pictures shown of the now room-temperature youth had him sporting a turban. After a while Mr. Labeet’s drivers license photo was shown, where he was clean shaven and uncovered.
The pictures being shown are all now the drivers license photo. Maybe FOX got a phone call.
Posters should use capital letters sparingly. There is no need to shout.
Sorry Hugh. I was a bit pissed having to read this first thing after turning on my computer.
The moslems sure have a way with words.. jihad becomes inner struggle.. intifada becomes "shaking off".. I guess next time I use the john I'll make sure to intifada before I zip.
And 4 = 5 and so on.
None of this would never be an issue if there were no msolems among us.
But as long as you *choose* to live among us:
islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism islam = terrorism
Talk, talk and more talk. The only action these people take is to the streets to attack the infidels for their attacks on islam or kill some young woman for "dishonoring" her worthless family, or sawing off the head of animals for some worthless "religious" holiday, etc. Howabout burning some effigies of Osama and associates, or the local imam after issuing his latest fatwa on another infidel for daring to insult islam, etc?
Muslim countries urge non-Muslim West to de-link Islam from terrorism . . .uh huh. . . are muslim countries going to do the same with the koran?
From a comment posted by Khaybar Oasis February 26, 2007 8:08 PM
We can also add the history of jihad:
The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)
The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)
The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians - modern Sudanese (650)
The Jihad against pagan Berbers - North Africans (650 to 700)
The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)
The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)
The Jihad against Franks - modern French (720 to 732)
The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)
The Jihad against Chinese (751)
The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)
The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)
The Crusade against Jihad (1096 – 1291 ongoing)
The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)
The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)
The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)
The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)
The Jihad against Romania (1350 to 1699)
The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)
The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)
The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)
The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)
The Jihad against Albania (1332 - 1853)
The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)
The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)
The Jihad against Austrians (1683)
Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)
The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)
The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)
The Jihad against the Germans (1945 onwards)
The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)
The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)
The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)
The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)
The Global Jihad today (2001 – ongoing)
The War on Terror against Jihad today (2001– ongoing)
Well, after considering the above, I don't see any reason to de-link Islam from Jihad or Terror. Again, I will take the liberty of quoting another favorite comment from JihadWatch archives . ..
Until then, the entire OIC and HRC can go pound sand.
Just mom you need to go to hannity forums and tell them how it works
Well this is a condemnation of absolutely nothing.
"forced religious conversions by majority religious groups” Muslims consider the other major religions to be false, but even if they were considered real islam is the only one that promotes forced conversions.
“attacks of places of worship” Muslims consider the other major religions to be false therefore the others have no real places of worship.
“restriction on the display of religious symbols” Muslims consider the other major religions to be false therefore the other’s symbols are irrelevant.
“and erosion of rights of parents to ensure moral education for their children." Muslims consider the other major religions to be false, Islamic law is the only thing they respect so moral education means Islamic education.
Do they think we are stupid,? Do they think they are clever? Do they think we haven’t read for ourselves? What an insult, these guys are used to Islamic world where they do this all the time and get away with it. You will be killed for disagreeing so we don’t see it too often if ever over there.
translated, I'll de-link Islam from terrorism when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
On Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the Turkish historian who was carefully chosen, as the most moderate and presentable (to the Infidels) person, after the bad impression left by Mohamad Mahathir's celebrated rant, to assume the position of head of the Organization of Islamic Countries, one can find a number of things in the JW archives.
Here are two:
1. From a posting on exaggerated claims made by Muslims for "Islamic science":
"One might also be amused by the large claims made by a bizarre figure, Ziauddin Sarkar. Sarkar, in turn, was somehow permitted to review, in the pages of the British journal "Nature," the large claims made on behalf of "Ottoman" -- i.e., "Islamic" science - by Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a historian of Ottoman science, some of whose attempts to explain why such things as the clock did not develop in the East but only in the West (you see, since the early clocks were not sufficiently accurate for Muslims to rely on them for knowing when it was time for prayers, they did not think it worth using them, or trying to improve them) raise far more disturbing questions about the Muslim mind-set than Dr. Ihsanoglu apparently realizes.
Why did an editor at Nature give the job of reviewing Ekheleddin Ihsanoglu's book to the apologist Ziauddin Sarkar? And who at Science allowed the puff-piece about "Islamic science," with every cliche that no historian of mathematics, or science, or technology -- not Giorgio di Santillana, not Crombie, not Charles Singer, not a hundred others -- would have permitted.
What is happening when standards, supposedly so rigorous at "Science" or at "Nature" are so obviously non-existent, and both journals become, rightly, the object of ridicule? This kind of thing cannot be allowed to go on. Who, in the world of science, will demand some kind of investigation into how, if not Sarkar's absurd review, then at least Wasim Masiak's bit of propaganda for some Self-Esteem Studies Department at Al-Azhar University, or the King Abdul Aziz Institute of Advanced Islamic Sciences, is discussed, both its contents, and how it ever was allowed to grace the pages of what is supposed to be a serious and "peer-reviewed" journal.
Who were Masiak's peers, the peers who reviewed him? George Saliba?
[Posted by: Hugh at July 30, 2005 01:36 PM]
2. And this excerpt from "Islam for Infidels, Part III":
And many more words and phrases will need to be carefully redefined to protect Islam from prying eyes and minds. Certain words that could prove too hot to mishandle may have to be eliminated altogether. One word that seems to be getting much disturbing attention lately, is “dhimmi.” If Infidels were to visit the website www.dhimmitude.org, or even read the books of Bat Ye’or, they might develop a negative view of Islam. And that would never do. Muslims are keenly aware of the problem – hence all the talk of “protected peoples” and the Compact of Omar.. No less a personage than Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish historian of Ottoman science, who is now the Secretary-General of the Organization of Islamic Countries, helpfully explained in a recent address to an audience of American Infidels, that the “privilege of becoming a protected minority via an act of dhimmiship was given only to the followers of a prophet to whom a sacred book was revealed.”
In defining “dhimmiship” as the “privilege of becoming a protected minority” Dr. Ihsanoglu did his best. But those who are so solicitious of the public image of Islam and of Muslims in mind realize that it should not be left up just to NPR, or the BBC, or Le Monde; we all have to pitch in, and do our bit. It might be better if “dhimmi” were to be jettisoned altogether. The word upsets Infidels, and it does nothing for Muslims, either.
Instead of “dhimmis” why not call them “Friends With Benefits”?
[Posted by Hugh on February 14, 2005 10:33 AM] |
Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu is also the one who, at the time of the death riots and Muslim riots over those anodyne cartoos in a Danish paper, solemnly likened the effect of those cartoons on Muslims as being akin to the effect on Infidels of the mass murders carried out be Muslims on 9/11.
One of the best things that we can do is to continue heaping scorn and abuse unto these retards.
Or denouncing hypocrites like Ibrahim and CAIR.
"Let's be fair, let's be fair these bastards cry, but dont look at or comment on my inequities."
One tends to be an equal opportunity abuser and critic here.
"Now did you hear the one about Muhammed and the two infidel drunks were having a discussion in a bar, and one said...."
OT.......
I've been working on a bumper sticker design I would like to share with JW'rs. What do you say we have a bumper sticker design contest to celebrate ramhadan?
Where could we post them?
Here's muslim tolerance.
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003858.html
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Why should the west "delink" terrorism from Islam? Thats asking us to practice a kind of mental dissonance so destructive that the whole population would have to be drugged or brainwashed to believe.
Its unreasonalbe (to put it mildly) to request this just as it would be unreasonable to ask the WWII allies to have "delinked" Nazi principles and ideals from the Nazi Party.
What WOULD be reasonable is to ask people not to link ARABS with terrorism just as you should not link GERMANS with nazism. There are Arabs who are not muslims and Germans who are not Nazis. There are Arab christians, atheists, new age practitionars etc just as in any other race.
But to ask that Islam be mentally 'delinked' is asking the impossible. (I say 'mentally' for out there in the real physical world it will continue to be linked with terrorism as they continue to bomb, chop heads off, kill, rape, torture in the name of Islam while yelling allah ackbar and reading the clear jihadist texts in their qurans/hadiths that impel them to do so).
Now we can pretend that there is a 'true' Islam that is not fascistic but it would be a lie. Sort of like the lie that the Nazi Party told its Japanese fellow axis friends ("hitler sees Japan and the emperor as 2 equal and great empires that coexist). If the Nazis had WON WWII eventually they would go after all their former 'friends' who according to Nazis principles are inferior ANYWAY.
My point is this: The Nazi party presented a 'moderate face' to its Imperial Japanese partner but it was a sham JUST LIKE ANY MODERATE FACE OF ISLAM IS A SHAM.
Now do not misunderstand me (all you drooling CAIR readers out there) I am NOT saying that most muslims are purposely being obtuse about the true face of Islam. Those muslims (the majority which are called 'moderate' and which do not partake in terror actions) either do not know (because they do not want to know or are truly ignorant of) or do know (and provide material and financial support) of the true face of Islam (ie the jihadist terror face with designs for world domination-a capliphite) will be forced into line when the 'proper' opportunity comes into play by the strict islamists (the radical Islam).
Do you think Arabia is filled with radical Islamists? A large majority do not support their crazy leader but neither do they rebel against him (many out of fear of course, they have lives and families). But all of them fall into line thanks to the Iranian secret police, army, etc etc.
So, Islam will ALWAYS be linked with terrorism for its in the texts and in the actions of its more faithful readers that we see it requires, nay demands a violent JIHAD against all who would oppose a world controlled by this dark cult of death.
WE IN THE WEST WHO HAVE NOT BOWED DOWN DO SEE WITH CLEAR EYES THE DANGER IN FRONT OF US. That will not be changed and I predict that no matter what the virulent anti-West liberals amongs us believe this awareness among the regular populace will only grow. For we see the fruit of Islam...
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn {bushes} nor figs from thistles, are they?
So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
So then, you will know them by their fruits."
Jesus Christ (Mat 7:15-20)
Your friend,
"The Allies Shall Win"
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"The representative of the OIC stressed that the Islamic countries deplored States that linked freedom of belief with freedom of expression and opinion in order to shrug off responsibility. "Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue. Equating religions with extremist terrorism was dangerous and it was essential to de-link terrorist acts from the right to peacefully follow one's faith," the diplomat added. "'
....put otherwise, "Damn those internet websites that openly discuss the truth about Islam"...
...and the Muslims hate the truth, especially if the infidels know it....
...Ban Muslim Immigration.....
Read Borg's link.
Islam is the religion of satan. Period.
Don't like it that we "infidels" are blowing the whistle on your atrocities? Too damn bad.
What!! Instead of aiming your request at non-Muslims -- start by exhorting those responsible for terrorism in the first place: other Muslims!! And then shut the hell up!
"Equating religions with extremist terrorism was dangerous and it was essential to de-link terrorist acts from the right to peacefully follow one's faith,"
If all that they were and are doing currently was "peacefully" following their faith, we wouldn't be here...period.
As soon as Islam reasonably explains why I should believe in the rambling plagiarisms of a slaveholding 7th century pedophile warlord, then I'll reasonably explain back to them why I prefer the Second Amendment's logic to theirs.
They are believers in a cult that threatens death if you try to leave it.
How can that be given any credence?
It's terrorism posing as a religion.
No dialog, just disgust.
When I first saw this article I smiled to myself sardonically. These twisted little animals got it all backwards again, as always, in their twisted invert cult logic. What a waste of humanity, those very sick puppies.
The above comments are all right on.
The Democrats in the U.S. want to do the same thing.
The new Prime Minister in England has already implimented this.
Pres. Assad in Syria states he has 'been assurred' that the Democrats are the right people in Washington.
Osama states 'the Democrats are not doing their job'.
Now we have the muslims countries wanting to remove the word 'terrorism'.
There are obviously a lot of meetings going on that we have not been invited to.
They are 'singing off the same sheet of music'.
Urging us to play some absurd make believe game to "d-link terrorism from Islam" when terrorism is a inseparable part of the Quran? Thats like asking Christians to stop proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ. Yeah we can, but we would only be violating the foundational teachings of Jesus in complying.
The rhetoric of Al-Takeyyah & Kitman inc... is mocking our ability to use common sense in not letting down all our defenses to a belief that is responsible for 9,000+ acts of terrorism since 9/11/2001.
The representative of the OIC said efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue.
Knowledge runs downhill. Since Islam is supreme all other faiths must sit at Islams feet, and listen to
an interfaith dialog that is loaded with self serving taqiyya, kitman and other outright lies, piled on by supremists, with a vested interest and agenda. Interfaith dialog is possible as long as the 'other' faiths recognize Islams superiority. Intolerance and discrimination are natural parts of despotic supremism. As long as Islam maintains a superior attitude, intolerance and discrimination will be with us...
Chris,
"Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue."
This statement is Islamic new-speak, and some of your readers may need help in discyphering it:
unrestricted = certain topics like Islam and human rights in Muslim countries are off limits
disrespectful = never say anything negative about Mohammed, Islam, or Islamists
freedom = a Western term that has no place in the Middle East
expression = you can say it, but if it offends Islamists, they can kill you for saying it
spirit = an atmosphere based on Islamist rules
peaceful = see submission
dialogue = you be quiet and listen to what the Islamists have to say"
OIC, I got an answer for the first above statement: NUTS!!!!
An additional answer, DISREGARD IT.
Ynkedoodl2,
Islam is simply a BIG LIE, created by the FATHER OF LIES ( SATAN ).
Such meaningless babble only serves to magnify the cognitive dissonance that results from the juxtaposition of the endless lies and dissimulation of the jihadists and their apologists against the reality of 13 centuries of Islamic imperialistic offensive warfare. Not a Muslim soul believes this tripe. It is spewed solely for consumption by the non-Muslim sheeple who are the targets of the Muslim political, economic and social conquest.
Islam IS the source of the terrorism!
Muslims deal far too easily in lies chained to lies chained to more lies. Islam will not drag the world into darkness because of Muslim ignorance and stupidity, that much I can promise -- at least not without a fight like no other in the history of the world!
Have the OIC countries signed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights already?
Posters should use capital letters sparingly. There is no need to shout.
Posted by: Hugh at September 14, 2007 10:41 AM
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Hugh, the shouting is in response to the futility of trying to persuade the US government that we are under attack by islamonazis and that the islamonazis are the majority not a minority of islam.
and what will you do when the next attack by islamonazis kills hundreds of thousands if not several million Americans?????????
prepare be armed be ready for the war against America by islam is under way inside America and our federal government refuses to protect Americans..............
The Texican.
Live Free and Die Free.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.
Islamic Apologetics 101:
Everything Muslims do is justified; everything non-Muslims do is a crime.
Recall Bush said he was going to appoint an envoy to the OIC ( http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017139.php )
I wonder what dubya will do when the envoy returns with the de-linking memo.
"OK, Call Condi, Dick, and Karen, and see if General Patraeus is still in town, we need to organize our thoughts on a new de-linking plan. It's gonna be hard work. Real hard."
The sooner we educate the general population to the Idea that Islam is to be considerd in the same catagory as the original nazis, only worse, the closer to a solution we will be. Islam must be absolutely demonized - fortunately all that is needed is to make its core principles widely known. We have much work to do.
Words suitable for a dictator.
How DARE you xenophobic Westerners try to make Muslims feel bad for the 9,000 acts of terror committed in the name of "Allah" since 9/11.
This smells like one of George Orwell's farts.
"Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue."
Good God, you would need a Harvard Phd just to come up with a load of crap that twisted upon itself!!!
Translation: "The truth hurts."
salahudin Says:
September 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
i don’t see the problem in learning from different societies and culture… although i’ll agree with you in a way: the basic values of our democracy and pluralism ought not to be compromised. civil rights need to be upheld…
barring that, the shariah is no threat.
http://eaglespearlsofwisdom.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/what-is-a-bigot-and-how-does-it-apply-to-the-subject-at-hand/#comment-591
LOL
Elric:
I checked out your exchange with Salahudin. How exhausting. He spends so much of his reduced brain power trying to get through the hoops of logic that will allow him to label us as "bigots" or "Islamophobes." Let's spare him the effort: Yes, I am an Islamophobe. Because I hate Islam. Because I love life and freedom. The only argument I would bother to bring on those who profess to Islam would be at the end of a gun, when they are being deported from this country. We will let them go, and THAT is where any reasonable tolerance ends.
@Josephine
Islamic Apologetics 101:
Being a Muhammadan means never having to say you're sorry.
Ynkedoodl2 -- It just goes from bad to worse.
"OIC urges de-linking Islam from terrorism,"
The only way that can happen is if Islam is de-linked from the Koran.
Johnadams said: Yes, I am an Islamophobe. Because I hate Islam.
A phobia is defined as an irrational fear. I don't think my fear of having our country given away to islam by our clueless leaders is irrational. I therefore am not an islamaphobe.
An enemy of islam, yes.
A bit OT, and I don't know if it was covered elsewhere, but I read about Kathy Griffin bashing Jesus during her emmy speech (why anyone would give that no talent idiot an award is beyond me). I'm wondering where all the condemnation from the "sensitive left" is? You know, the ones that wouldn't reprint the Danish cartoons out of sensitivity for the muslims.
At the very least I would expect a small Christian riot calling for her death. Oh wait, Christians don't act like that. And the media doesn't cover Christian bashing. Never mind.
walterc, I emailed her yesterday to tell her I supported her right to free speech, even as a Christian. But I also asked when she and her Hollywood friends would have the same to say about mohammad.
walterc:
You are right, and I stand corrected. I am not an Islamaphobe, I am actually a peace-loving, freedom-loving, hardworking, intelligent, amusing, kind, friendly, compassionate, American citizen who would ERADICATE ALL FORMS OF ISLAM from our country forever.
And thanks for the Kathy Griffin info. Funny, I've never been able to stand the sight of that bit&hes' face, and now I have direct evidence of her decrepitude. Kinda reinforces faith in my own judgement.
Who is Kathy Griffin, never heard of her. Besides, she will be beheaded (or used as a concubine if she is lucky) along with Britney, Madonna and all the others so why worry?
Islamomisia - Sickness inspired by Islam
Islamomisiac - Someone who is sick of Islam
I'm going to keep pushing that word I made up until it sticks.
'Islamophobia' is a propaganda tool of our enemies. Let them keep it since it doesn't apply to the truth anyway.
Islamophobia vs. Islamomisia, Islamotedium
Refining further we can hone in on more user-friendly variants -- one who has Islamomisia might be described thusly:
He is Islamomisiac.
He is an Islamomisiast.* (or Islamomisist)*
Any out there with a firm grasp of Greek or Latin might come up with something even more clever.
*suggested by JohnC in Anvil comments
Nothing wrong with the word Islamophobic. What infidel in his or her right mind isn't phobic about Muhammadans????
A phobia is not the same thing as fear.
I'm phobic about Muhammadans and not ashamed to say so. In fact when people hear me talking about the Muhammadan enemies and give me a funny look, I blurt right out: "I'm an Islamophobe, man!"
You'd be surprised how many people nod their heads understandingly.
If they don't nod their heads, I try to give them a lecture. I'm the Ian Paisley of Islamophobes.
As soon as they get over their Infidelphobia. We will give it some Thought.
The OIC? The Organization of Infidel Critics?
lol @ topic...
NOW, after all these years???,
so they want us to "de-link" the two???...
after years of silence???,
and even pleading from us for THEM to stand up and say the same thing (disclaiming islamic terrorism from islam proper)???
even amidst their telltale silence over them allowing overt admission of no differences between the two by their peers???
...and NOW, THEY(?) want US(?) to do...WHAT?????
Too little pandering,
years too late,
and taqqiyah taqqiyah taqqiyah runneth over on their part.
NOT GONNA WORK THIS TIME, HYPOCRITES!!!
NOT GONNA FALL FOR IT, HYPOCRITES!!!
NOT GONNA HAPPEN, HYPOCRITES!!!
LAN ASTASLEM!!!
"Yes, I am an Islamophobe. Because I hate Islam. Because I love life and freedom."
Well, actually, this is a good way to start a discussion, except removing the "hate" .
Yes, I am an Islamophobe because I love freedom and I love Human Rights.
justamomof4,
Bad links.
Hmmmm . . .the links worked in preview mode earlier. Thanks for update.
To view the links, simply google "history of jihad" or enter the url into your browser . . .
http://www.historyofjihad.org/
At that site, look at the left hand column and scroll down for the entire list. That website is a marvelous resource and I've long since saved it (bookmarked) to my growing list of favorites. On occassion, I have experienced difficulty accessing it - either site is down or the problem is on my end (I'm not tech savy)- in which case I plug the url into the internet archive website to access a backup file.
http://www.archive.org/index.php
Hope that helps. ;D
"Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue..."
"Peaceful" = submissive.
Satan at work via organizations such as OIC.
There is only one way to communicate with Moslems on jihad. And it is not by engaging in dialogue.
I believe that an honest discussion about the impact of Islam is needed but this one step forward, two steps back approach by the OIC is not particularly honest, nor is it helpful for the OIC to suggest that a liberty much of the free world enjoys, free expression, is abhorred by Islam. Until Islamists finally realize that their religious beliefs cannot outweigh our belief in inalienable freedoms, there may be little room for respectful discussion.
"The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental or spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest."
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859
QUOTE "The representative of the OIC said efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue." UNQUOTE
or to put it another way
WE have nothing to learn and you have nothing to teach US -- you keep talking whilst we act.
Why does "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" come to mind
I suppose that it would never occur to the muslim mind to ask why there does not appear to be a problem with other religions living peaceably with one another
Doesn't matter what the OIC says. It matters what they and "moderate" Muslims do.
If the one billion Muslims on earth wanted to stop the jihad, they could. Since they don't, they must either approve or ignore the actions of the "minority" of jihadists in their midst.
We'll 'delink' Islam from terrorism when Islam 'delinks' itself from terrorism FIRST (but we all know it will snow in hell before that ever happens!).
The members of OIC write "erosion of rights of parents to ensure moral education for their children" without doubt in reference to a horrible story and a scandal we discovered ten days before in the news papers here in Geneva. A Algerian father tortured and tried to kill his daughter to force her to give her password for her mailbox. She is 16 years old and he discovered she has a boy friend! So a good reason to kill her...When he was arrested he denied everything then said her daughter was surfing on pornographic websites but the medical examination shows the girl told the truth. She was take away from her parents, her horrible mother flees in England as she has a English passport while her traumatized daughter was in the hospital.
The news appears first in the following French article, if you can read French:
L’ado, torturée par son père avec le soutien de sa mère, a été placée
lundi 3 septembre 2007
LE DRAME FAMILIALLe Service de protection de la jeunesse du canton de Genève a placé la jeune fille de 16 ans qui a été abominablement violentée par son père, car elle ne voulait pas lui donner le mot de passe de sa messagerie électronique. Agé de 46 ans et d’origine britannique, le père est sous les verrous. Les faits se sont déroulés la veille de la rentrée scolaire à Meyrin. Fâché de ne pas pouvoir consulter la messagerie électronique de sa fille, l’accusé a frappé celle- ci, tenté de la poignarder et de l’étrangler en lui passant un sac-poubelle sur la tête. Il l’a emmenée en forêt, où, sous les coups, elle a finalement cédé et révélé son mot de passe. Ses parents ont alors découvert qu’elle communiquait avec un petit copain. Pour la punir, le père l’a tondue et lui a asséné des coups de pied dans le ventre, pendant que la mère riait aux éclats...