"The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway"

Not "The Security Service fears that a jihad terror attack will do serious harm to Norwegians." The concern is all with an imagined backlash, not with preventing it by heading off a terror attack, and calling upon Muslims in Norway to be active in anti-terror efforts.

A translation by Christian of this Norwegian article, "Frykter lynsjing av muslimer" in Nyheter.

- Norwegians are stupid and not good at integrating.

This according to Norway's Police Security Service, which fears a lynching mood in case there will be a terror attack.

The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway.

- We are unexperienced and a bit stupid as regards diversity and a multicultural population, says head of Security Service Jørn Holme to nrknyheter.no.

- We confuse Islam and Islamism. Islamism is after all a very particular form of Islam. I believe many Norwegians mix it up completely.

- The Security Service is particularly worried about the possibility of extreme right-wing elements attacking Muslim compatriots, and that we will have a polarized population attacking and losing confidence in each other.

The minister of justice agrees with the head of Security Service.

- This is a preoccupation shared by all of us. Serious crimes like these create even more stigmatization and even more problems in connection with the preventive efforts, says Knut Storberget (social democrat) to nrknyheter.no.

Wednesday evening the head of Security Service for the first time particepated in a public discussion, arranged by the Muslim Students' Society. As reported by NRK previously this week, many Muslims think they are under surveillance and feel they have to face responsibility for what extreme Islamists do....

So why not actively cooperate, and help police find the "extreme Islamists"? If they were operating someplace known to me, that's what I would do. If they were operating in the name of something I believed in, I would make every effort to stop them, instead of claiming victim status for being under surveillance. Want to not be under surveillance? Take away the reason why anyone would be watching.

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So - if I am attacked by moslem terrorists - then its all my fault for not being "PC" enough ..

Maybe if Muslims purge the jihadists from their midst they won't have to worry about any backlash
after a terror attack. How hard is that to comprehend?

"We are unexperienced and a bit stupid as regards diversity and a multicultural population, says head of Security Service Jørn Holme to nrknyheter.no."

"We confuse Islam and Islamism. Islamism is after all a very particular form of Islam. I believe many Norwegians mix it up completely."
-- from the article above

A "bit stupid as regards diversity"? Meaning not everyone in Norway is convinced that the most important and practically the greatest thing that any government can promote is "diversity"? Is that it? Are there still not enough university rectors in Norway to echo the sentiments of one Mary Sue Coleman, President of the University of Michigan, in her world-famous address "We Are Diversity"?

For more on "diversity" :
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/4705

And that business about "we [Norwegians] confuse Islam and Islamism." We are all confused. We are confused, and we are alarmed, that the last person in Norway who should make such a remark, that is the head of the Norwegian security service, confidently tells us that there is a great diffrence between "Islam" and ""Islamism"?

So tell us please what those diffrences are. Be sure to tell us the differences in doctrine, and not merely describe them as differences in practice. If someone engages directly in violent Jihad, and someone else supports the first person in every way -- money, moral support, attempts to confuse Infidels or keep the security forces from effectively monitoring and doing their job -- is the second person not also supporting violent Jihad? And what of those Muslims who support Jihad, but believe that at this point, with the numbers still against Musilms, and violence possibly likely to work against Muslim interests (that is not a moral argument against violence, but merely a practical one, based on what Muslims may regard as a temporary situation to be endured), the most effective weapons of Jihad are use of the Money Weapon, campaigns of Da'wa, and, best of all, demographic conquest, as the large Muslim families, and continued Muslim immigration unhindered by any Infidel attempts to stop it, show everywhere an inexorable rise in Muslim numbers and therefore Muslim political power and Muslim ability to pressure politicians, long before Muslims are a majority, to bend to their will.

One thing is not confusing about the statements made by the head of Norway's security service. One thing is crystal clear. He does not understand the texts and tenets and attitudes and atmospherics of Islam. In order to immmediately improve the security situation in Norway for Norwegian non-Muslims, the head of the Security Service, Jorn Holme, should be fired, and replaced by someone with a solid grasp of Islam, and therefore of the permanent threat, to the legal and political institutions of Norway, to its social arrangements, to free inquiry and to art, to the physical well-being of Infidels, that Islam -- not this fictive "Islamism" that some seem unable to drop or do without, for reasons having to do with their own mental inadequacies or their fear of giving offense or for some other mistaken --two-bit machiavellian -- calculation.

If Jorn Holme can list the passages in the Qur'an and Hadith that "Islamists" rely on, and tell us how such passages, and such reliance on them, differs from what those who believe not in "Islamism" but "Islam" take as their texts, we will all be happy to accept his superior knowledge and understanding -- a knowledge and an understanding that presumably goes far beyond that of the great Western scholars of Islam, every single one of them in the days before the profession itself became islamized, and peopled by apologists, some of them no more than direct or indirect hirelings of the Arabs, such as Esposito, and others who "found the answer" to their own spiritual search in Islam, and still others who, careful careerists, are afraid to offend the Muslim colleagues who now make up nearly three-quarters of the membership of MESA (Nostra) in this country, and who control in most colleges and universities the academic study -- or deliberate non-study -- of Islam.

Jorn Holme, and all those who continue to believe that there is something called "Islamism" that is a threat, and something called "Islam" that is not a threat, that is perfectly fine, that makes no claims on Infidel institutions or Infidel lives, should start, perhaps, by reading the article by Raymond Ibrahim that has just appeared in the Chronicle of Higher Education.

Ibrahim, who is a researcher in the Near East Division of the Library of Congress, has had the intelligence to publish the writings of Al Qaeda members. Ibrahim noticed that these assorted manifestoes and appeals, when addressed to Infidel audiences, always contained some rhetoric about such obvious "grievances" as Iraq, "Palestine," Kashmir, Kosovo, and so on. This litany, however, was completely absent from the writings and speeches direced at fellow Muslims. For them, Bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri, and othres had no need to deceive ("war is deception") but could stick to Islam -- plain Islam. And so they do: they offer the texts of Islam, passages from the Qur'an and stories from the Hadith, unchanged by a jot or tittle, the very same passages and stories that are part of Islam, and have been read, and are known, by Musliims all over the world (there is no "European Islam" or "American Islam" as some fondly believe, or somehow, illogically, think magically comes into being once Muslims are physically present on the soil of Europe or America).

Raymond Ibrahim, having realized that the Arabic versions of what Bin Laden and others say remained largely untranslated, and therefore unknown to Western policy-makers and the Western public. Before Raymond Ibrahim (an Arabic-speaking non-Muslim), apparently, none of our "loyal" and "moderate" Muslim scholars in colleges or universities or employed by the government saw fit to discuss, much less translate, those texts. Apparently none, before Raymond Ibrahim performed his indispensable service, felt sufficiently loyal to undertake the task themselves, and thereby to better inform Infidels (the very Infidels whom some of them have, as their professions, a duty to advise on the nature of Muslim terrorism and its sources) of what it is that menaces them now, and indeed, menaces them permanently, for Muslims are taught to think of themselves in a permanent state of war -- though not always active warfare -- with Infidels, until such time as Islam everywhere dominates and Muslims rule, everywhere.

The communiques and tapes made for Western audiences are, Ibhraim noticed, not at all like the tapes made by terrorists for fellow Muslims, as recruiting tools. Those tapes, those writings, are full of standard Islamic doctrines, well-known passages from the Qur'an, "authentic" Hadith from the collections of Bukhari and Muslim. They are intended to motivate those who, out of laziness or self-interest, have become "bad" Muslims and are not sufficiently inspired to participate directly in violent Jihad, or are not "bad" Muslims but merely those who fully support the efforts of the "good" (i.e., violent) Muslims through donations of money, or through attempts to block Infidel efforts to successfully monitor or even head off those who do engage in terrorism (which for Muslims is not terrorism but merely a form of qitaal, combat, and when directed at Infidels -- as opposed to fellow Muslims -- perfectly acceptable, unless of course any resulting harm to Muslims and to Islam renders it counter-productive -- a merely practical objection to some kinds of terrorism, and not a moral one).

Raymond Ibrahim's book of translated documents by Bin Laden and other terorrists has been published. Here is the link to Ibrahim's article in the Chronicle of Higher Education:

http://chronicle.com/temp/reprint.php?id=8ytztvdt6sy6x5p550p2m258myk1c1nm

Norway is safe , they couldnt put up any resistance to nazis and they wont put any up to is older brother Islam.

They should be more concerned about a jihad attack, not the repercussions.

Well, that's insane...

I am not at all surprised westerners completely misunderstood Balkan wars and bombed wrong side. These PC guys will soon bomb their selves just to show how good dhimmis they are...

Why not just tell the muslims,"Hey, you better do what you can to out the terrorists in your community." Why does it always have to be the other way?

Um, excuse me, but doesn't there have to be some sort of lash before there is a backlash?

"many Muslims think they are under surveillance and feel they have to face responsibility for what extreme Islamists do...."


...you nailed it!...


"So why not actively cooperate, and help police find the "extreme Islamists"?"


......openly or not, Muslims support Islams goal of global domination....turning in "bad" Muslims is not on the agenda....supporting them in one fashion or the other is.....


.....despite all the Muslim on Muslim violence, rarely do you see neighborhoods of Muslims rising to help authorities locate and remove "bad" Muslims....nor do you see the so called "Muslim rights organizations" helping locate and remove "bad" Muslims....

....The Muslim agenda remains the Muslim agenda...


it is important to Ban Muslim Immigration...

Norwegian Security Force is certainly STUPID-has one of them ever thought of reading the Koran-even
the dullest Infidel ought to be able to grasp the
danger he/she is in after Murderous Mo's instructions on what to do to UNBELIEVERS...
However, if these 'Keystone Cops' are worried
about other Norwegians blaming Muslims for ISLAM-like a Terrorist Attack-
looks like old Viking spirit hasn't been entirely
eradicated by PC Bullsh***.
"A furore Normannorum,libera nos,Domine."
"From the fury of the Northmen,Lord deliver us."
Like Sweden, Norway has been governed for decades by well meaning if stupid Socialists who assume
the World shares their values about Peace, Tolerance and Democracy. That if enough money in
generous Benefits are thrown at Muslims they will
'Integrate' like Non Muslim New Norwegians.
Quote from Omar Nasiri-'Inside the Global Jihad'
[How I Infiltrated Al Qaeda and was abandoned by
Western Intelligence]-usual Muzzie whine when in
reality he received lots of money & help...
"This is the problem of modern Islam in a nutshell.We are totally dependent on the West-for
our dishwashers,our clothes,our cars, our education,everything. IT IS HUMILIATING,AND EVERY MUSLIM FEELS IT...We can't even fight our wars without OUR ENEMIES' WEAPONS."
Despite all the help,medical attention Omar & his
family received from Belgium he isn't grateful, the more he HATES the hand which has fed him. There probably are Muslims who don't share his hatred or resentment of the West but we shouldn't take this for granted until they become
Apostates.

The SOB's are making Norwegians feel guilty, even before any backlash of any terrorist attack. Oh, you are willing to fight back? - Booooooo!


One has to understand that National Socialistizm is a very particular form of National Socializm, the later being perfectly acceptable, and in fact having a lot of common with any democracy.

Obviously rejecting diversity is the ultimate, if not the only crime a Westerner can commit. And minorities do not commit crimes; they just react on their grievances. Maybe a Westerner should go to jail, when a member of imported minority acts on their grievance. That way all those stupid, intolerant Westerners will not be able to stigmatize or even hurt the precious imported minority.

Lazar of Serbia is right, we are one step away from bombing our own people.

If one of our American Fearless Leaders ever comes out with a statement like that it will be a sign that we are being left to our own resources because they will not fight the fight.

Every candidate for office can be asked one question that, I believe, will shine a light on whether they understand the problem and understand the role of the Unicorn Muslims.

"Mr Candidate, What steps can we take to protect Muslims against a violent backlash in the aftermath of another massive terrorist attack?"

Here is my answer to my question from a mythical candidate running for governor, Congress, or POTUS:

Education is of course the only answer. We must educate the people so that we can be tolerant and understanding of the pressures that foreigners endure in America. We must educate Americans to understand the differences between Hindu Indians, Sikhs, Arab Christians, and Muslims. They must be able to identify these differences so that they do not take their blind revenge on the wrong people. After Nine Eleven, a Sikh was shot to death; we must ensure that righteous anger is directed properly.

Will the answer sound like it came from Norway's Police Security Service, Robert Spencer, or Pelayo.

Why should Norwegians be expected to put up with immigrants? Why should Norwegians be forced to change their way of living to accommodate outsiders?Why should Norawegians have to live in fear of Islam, Islamists, or Islamofascists?

The Norwegian Security Services are right. Europeans are stupid and have a history of violence. There is a long history of Europeans being downright mean. Stupid, stupid Europeans. They bear watching at all times:

Copy of a Military Order by the Governor of Missouri. HEAD QUARTERS, MILITIA, City of Jefferson, Oct. 27, 1838. Sir:--Since the order of the morning to you, directing you to cause four hundred mounted men to be raised within your division, I have received by Amos Rees, Esq. and Wiley E. Williams Esq., one of my aids, information of the most appalling character, which changes the whole face of things, and places the Mormons in the attitude of an open and avowed defiance of the laws, and of having made open war upon the people of this state. Your orders are, therefore, to hasten your operations and endeavor to reach Richmond, in Ray County, with all possible speed. The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the state, if necessary, for the public good. Their outrages are beyond all description. If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so to any extent you may think necessary. I have just issued orders to Maj. Gen. Wallock, of Marion County, to raise 500 men and march them to the northern part of Daviess, and there unite with Gen. Doniphan, of Clay, who has been ordered with 500 men to proceed to the same point, for the purpose of intercepting the retreat of the Mormons to the North. They have been directed to communicate with you by express. You can also communicate with them if you find it necessary. Instead, therefore, of proceeding, as at first directed, to reinstate the citizens of Daviess in their homes, you will proceed immediately to Richmond, and there operate against the Mormons. Brig. Gen. Parks, of Ray, has been ordered to have four hundred men of his brigade in readiness to join you at Richmond. The whole force will be placed under your command. L. W. BOGGS, Gov. And Command-in-chief. To Gen. Clark.

“Intercepting the retreat.” Stupid, ignorant, intolerant Europeans.

"Why should Norwegians be expected to put up with immigrants? Why should Norwegians be forced to change their way of living to accommodate outsiders?Why should Norawegians have to live in fear of Islam, Islamists, or Islamofascists?

Posted by: MP "


.....according to the Muslims they have no choice in the matter....

This is laughably ridiculous. It is like that satirical headline we've all read at scrappleface or the Onion, or other fake-news websites:

"Muslim Leaders Fear Backlash After Next Week's Train Bombing"

Holy crap it is actually coming true. I have lost all faith in humanity.

"The Security Service is particularly worried about the possibility of extreme right-wing elements attacking Muslim compatriots, and that we will have a polarized population attacking and losing confidence in each other."
-- from the article above

Tiens. Not merely "elements" but "right-wing elements." Not merely "right-wing elements" but "extreme right-wing elements" who will attack Muslim "compatriots" (a curious, and inapt, word).

The gullibility of the Norwegian Security Services continues to amaze. Aren't the Norwegians supposed to know about Lie Groups? Islam is the biggest Lie Group of them all.

"Why should Norwegians be expected to put up with immigrants? Why should Norwegians be forced to change their way of living to accommodate outsiders?Why should Norawegians have to live in fear of Islam, Islamists, or Islamofascists?

The real questions should be, when and where was this invasion authorized, who authorized it and what are we going to do about the people who did this?

"The real questions should be, when and where was this invasion authorized, who authorized it and what are we going to do about the people who did this?"


Your answers are in Bat Yeor's book "Eurabia"

Jimmy the Dhimmi said

"Muslim Leaders Fear Backlash After Next Week's Train Bombing"

That is funny. But the actual headline above is even funnier: "Next Week's Train Bombing Victims Fear Backlash Against Those Doing The Bombing".

We've got it pretty bad here in the States, but thankfully not as bad yet as Norway or Germany.

I have learned many things from JW/DW, not the least of which is that I am an extreme-right-winger, and probably an evangelical fundametalist Crusader to boot.

Just like Hugh.

special_guest,

That is a good thing. :-)

"The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway"

The trembling sissies in Norway's Security Service may fear such things, but jihaddis know better.

"I have learned many things from JW/DW, not the least of which is that I am an extreme-right-winger, and probably an evangelical fundametalist Crusader to boot." by special_guest

----

I have learned the same, even though I'm pro-immigrant(screening heavily on the muslims and blocking the vast majority on entering a country), I'm in favour of church and state separation, pro-freedom of expression, in a two-way street, being able to poke fun of christians and christians poke fun of me. I'm an atheist, and I think religion is one of the worst inventions of all man-kind but, islam is the ebola of all religions. And i have no political alignment.

Surprisingly little concern for what might happen to Norweigians in the event of an attack.

Greek Fire,

Not that surprising

Head of Security Service Jørn Holme - We confuse Islam and Islamism. Islamism is after all a very particular form of Islam. I believe many Norwegians mix it up completely.

Jorn Holme is the one who is confused. There is no such thing as Islamism - ask any Muslim when he is not in taqqiya mode.

Bravo Norwergians - you must all be reading JW/DW, faithfreedom, or is too much koran?

- We are unexperienced and a bit stupid as regards diversity and a multicultural population, says head of Security Service Jørn Holme to nrknyheter.no.

Wow.. that Quisling sure had some offspring!! And they all got in office somewhere.. looks like they're afraid of what the REST of the Norsemen will do!

I hope they will defenbd themselves!

You know what the saddest thing is? These people are descendences of the Vikings.

Wednesday evening the head of Security Service for the first time particepated in a public discussion, arranged by the Muslim Students' Society.


Shouldn't the head of Security Services be talking to Jewish students instead of the terrorists?

"The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway"

Ahhh... **IF ONLY**!!!!!

Maybe if Muslims purge the jihadists from their midst they won't have to worry about any backlash
after a terror attack. How hard is that to comprehend?
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS

Very hard. Jihadis are a natural consequence in any Muslim population group.

Lazar of Serbia is right, we are one step away from bombing our own people.

Yes. Just one small little step from Bosnia to Norway.

Greetings:

Where have all the Vikings gone?


"Of the 37 NATO nations and partners in the Afghan force, Norway is one that has avoided the more dangerous parts of the country, where Canada shares much of the burden with Britain, the Netherlands and the United States."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070926.wnorway26/BNStory/Afghanistan/home

This attitude on part of the government was evident in the U.S. right after 9-11-01.

There appears to be more concern with protecting Moslems than with protecting citizens (non-Moslems) against jihadists.

If Moslems that have moved into the midst of non-Islamic countries are more loyal to shariah law, the ummah, and Islam than to the country that have given them shelter, they will be regarded as a 5th Column (that is an enemy organ) by the non-Moslem populace.

If it gets to when a non-Islamic country is at the point of being taken over by Islamic forces, the non-Moslem population will not "go quietly" into dhimmitude, forced conversion, or death.

If the government at that time is more concerned withpreserving the safety of Moslems than with that of its citizens (excluding Moslems), then the government along with the Islamics becomes the enemy of the people.

"We confuse Islam and Islamism. Islamism is after all a very particular form of Islam. I believe many Norwegians mix it up completely."

- - - - -

I can clear it up for you, sir:

Islamism is caused by those who believe their holy book the Quran says "Smite the Unbelievers..."
while
Islam's holy text, the Quran, says "Smite the Unbelievers..."

There! does that make it clear now?

"The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway"

A perfect illustration of the old, not at all PC saying:

"There's no-tard like a re-tard!"


In 1844 anti-Catholic "nativist" rioters in Philadelphia planned to come to New York
For an anti-Catholic rally.

They had already done considerable damage in Philadelphia,
Burning two Catholic churches and killing 12 people.

In response to this threat,

Hughes put armed guards (members of the Ancient Order of Hibernians) around New York's Catholic churches.

He warned New York’s mayor that

"if a single Catholic Church were burned in New York, the city would become a second Moscow."

Smart man, he knew no one wanted the city to burn.
so his plan worked.

Muslims on the other hand would like it if the city became a “second Moscow”.

Now here in Norway that the immigrants are the protected class, and their interests are over the “nativist",

What are the Norwegians to do?

Oh, silly me!

The answer to all this;

"Dhimmi"

"Allah knows best" he and "MO" thought of everything!

So here we have it, the Muslims are not willing to change so they must be “protected”;
that is till
the Norwegians submit and then they can be the
protected” aka "Dhimmi's".

Till then the good Norwegian citizens who's country is doing the protecting are in danger from the very ones who only want to "protect" them.

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Right before each of us mails the book, we’ll issue a press release to media outlets in as many states as possible, and in that way announce and explain the mailing. And perhaps we can come up with some other ways of maximizing the effectiveness of this project and gaining as much positive attention as possible.

One of the project's volunteers suggested contacting Rep. Sue Myrick, who started the Anti-Jihad Caucus in Congress. When we reach the goal of having all 100 senators covered, I'll call Rep. Myrick's office and see if she can help. I've called several congressional offices to get advice on how best to proceed.

Well, obviously, the Norwegian security service needs to coordinate activities with Al Qaeda so as to best prevent harm to Muslims from the backlash. If the police know when attacks are to occur then they will be able to to plan for security measures to be in place to protect the Muslims from any possible backlash. They can take a cue from the Bush administration and make sure that family and friends of the terrorist leadership get flown out of the country before they are subject to backlash.

Pez said:

The Norwegian Security Services are right. Europeans are stupid and have a history of violence. There is a long history of Europeans being downright mean. Stupid, stupid Europeans. They bear watching at all times
...
“Intercepting the retreat.” Stupid, ignorant, intolerant Europeans.

Yeow, baby. Give the Islamists and their supporters a little high anxiety for a change. Despite the last few decades of Western spinal column calcium depletion, I think the Islamists have miscalculated.

Which is good.

How's that song go?

"Anything you can do, we can do……. Better"

… and I mean the West, not just Europeans.

Hugh,

Regarding:

Mary Sue Coleman, President of the University of Michigan, in her world-famous address "We Are Diversity"?


Maybe she was misquoted, maybe she really said "We Are Stupidity". :)

Hugh,

Regarding:

Mary Sue Coleman, President of the University of Michigan, in her world-famous address "We Are Diversity"?


Perhaps she was misquoted, perhaps she said "We Are Stupidity".

No Commune, no Communism.

No Islam, no Islamism.

No Muslim immigrants, no problem.

"The Security Service fears that serious harm will be done to Norwegian Muslims in case of a terror attack in Norway"


I would ***HOPE*** so!!! Just ***SEE*** what they do to ***US***... I have NEITHER PITY NOR MERCY for them.

May they all die.. or simply go back home.

"Not "The Security Service fears that a jihad terror attack will do serious harm to Norwegians." The concern is all with an imagined backlash, not with preventing it by heading off a terror attack, and calling upon Muslims in Norway to be active in anti-terror efforts."

Exactly right as usual.

special_guest wrote: "I have learned many things from JW/DW, not the least of which is that I am an extreme-right-winger and probably an evangelical fundamentalist Crusader to boot."

"Just like Hugh."

Not to mention ( you are also ) an UNCLEAN KUFFAR INFIDEL DOG.

Along with the rest of us.

Why should Norwegians be expected to put up with immigrants? Why should Norwegians be forced to change their way of living to accommodate outsiders?Why should Norawegians have to live in fear of Islam, Islamists, or Islamofascists?
Posted by: MP

The only reason this is so is because Norwegians keep voting the same politicians back to power. The politicians thus get the message that they can do as they please to placate Muslims, to get their votes. The same holds in all Western countries where there are Muslims.

As long as Muslims are a minority, we still have a window to vote in political parties who are committed to send Muslims back to their ancestral lands. If we do this, the rest of the political parties will change their tune.

In the end it is up to us to change the political scene. No one else to blame.

This had me in stitches. Oh, my sides.

From Hyman Roth:"Well, obviously, the Norwegian security service needs to coordinate activities with Al Qaeda so as to best prevent harm to Muslims from the backlash. If the police know when attacks are to occur then they will be able to to plan for security measures to be in place to protect the Muslims from any possible backlash. They can take a cue from the Bush administration and make sure that family and friends of the terrorist leadership get flown out of the country before they are subject to backlash"

Oh har de har har. Wonderful post, Mr Roth.

Look - you are all a bunch of Nazi retards. You should be grateful that Muslims have graced your horribly white, institutionally racist infidel countries with their peaceful presence. Just accept Islam and you'll be so much happier.

Now listen to the wise words of Amnesty International:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IR1nyGJ-U

[/sarcasm]

mp

"Why should Norwegians be expected to put up with immigrants? Why should Norwegians be forced to change their way of living to accommodate outsiders?Why should Norawegians have to live in fear of Islam, Islamists, or Islamofascists?"

because norway is a far left socialist nation. norweigans feel proud that they are importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants into their nation each year, it makes them feel all glowy and warm all over. i've just returned from 3 days of hell in norway, it was similar to being in czech republic after communism fell, cold, anti-american, socialised projects and housing. the people prefer the islamic immigration rather than the american influence.

norway a population of 4 million, has a population of 20% immigrants. over 83 000 muslims, that's 1.8% out of a population of only 4 million, and it's growing with no end in sight.

even when the first bombs go off in downtown oslo the norweigans will scratch their heads, visit the mosques and ask themselves, how did we offend the muslims, and how can we appease them.

socialism is a disease.

"Wednesday evening the head of Security Service for the first time particepated in a public discussion, arranged by the Muslim Students' Society. As reported by NRK previously this week, many Muslims think they are under surveillance and feel they have to face responsibility for what extreme Islamists do...."

A little surveillance, self-imposed paranoia and sense of persecution is the price Muslims must pay for immigrating to the civilized world. Their fear of subsequent backlash is their pennance for endorsing, supporting and defending indefensible violence and injustice against the greater world in the name of Islam.

I natt jag hadd så rar et dröm
Jag aldri drömt förut
Jag drömte det var Fred på Jord
och alla krig var slutt

Those people must not have seen that famous Australian spoof headline:

"MUSLIMS FEAR REPRISALS FOR TOMORROW'S TRAIN BOMBING."

It reminds me of the people who shed not a single tear for the 3000 plus (non-fictional)victims of 9/11, but fretted over all the (fictional) "backlash."

PC has truly made the world insane.

Hugh wrote:
"The Security Service is particularly worried about the possibility of extreme right-wing elements attacking Muslim compatriots, and that we will have a polarized population attacking and losing confidence in each other."
-- from the article above

Tiens. Not merely "elements" but "right-wing elements." Not merely "right-wing elements" but "extreme right-wing elements" who will attack Muslim "compatriots" (a curious, and inapt, word)."

Hugh always has a brilliant insight. As I read Hugh about the curious and inapt word "compatriots" penned by the Nordic journalist,concerning a forced universalism between the normal Nordics and the marauding ideology of moslems, it dawned on me that the moslem compatriots, are actually the journalists and universalists who refuse to condemn the invasion of the body snatchers. The author of this article is an accomplice to Islam. The author of this article is properly indicted by Hugh because by intention or gross negligence the author allows these maggots to infect the body politic and refuses to cast them out.

The politically correct are a bunch of criminals. They are accomplice criminals. Whoever knows anything about islam and refuses to condemn it or whoever argues in its support is a traitor to his community and is an accomplice to islam.

right wing elements in norway?

they are a pascifist far left people. the right wing is a tiny minority and under heavy surveillance.







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