Unspeakable horror, spoken. "My mother was the victim of honour killing, reveals Muslim playwright," by Yasmin Whittaker-Khan in the Daily Mail (thanks to Twostellas):
Britain's most controversial Muslim playwright tells the extraordinary story of her mother's murder and growing up as the daughter of an honour killing.I was six-years-old when my mother, Shakeela Begum Khan, a beautiful, sassy, educated young Muslim woman, was murdered.
Returning home from school one day in 1976 to the one-room bedsit in East London where we both lived, I found police officers and an ambulance crew removing her body.
I remember that scene now as if it were a vague dream.
Did it really happen, or did I just imagine it?
I have no memory of how I felt, only of what I witnessed.
As I grew up, older relatives had to reassure me that my memories weren't delusional.
Many years later, I also discovered the killer had set up the room to make it look as though it were a brothel, and my mother a prostitute.
As anyone from a Muslim background would instantly recognise, it was the ultimate way to dishonour a woman in the eyes of her family and community.
Soon after my mother's death, her estranged husband, Rasib - my father - was accused of the murder, charged and tried, but he was acquitted.
Taken by Rasib to live with his new wife and a half-brother, both of whom were cruel and abusive to me when my father was not around, I was never allowed to utter a word about my mother.
For the next eight years, I lived in an atmosphere of secrets, lies and crippling fear, reluctantly protecting my vicious stepmother and half-brother from the fury my father would have unleashed on them if he'd known what they did to me.
I lived in constant dread that if I told anybody, the ultimate punishment for them would be death.
Now, three decades later, I have attained a form of poetic justice.
As a playwright, I challenge the forces that try to impose silence and censorship on me.
Having been silenced for so many years of my life, I am now determined to say the unsayable whenever necessary.
Be sure to read the whole thing.
Thankfully, another courageous woman speaks the truth.
Unlike the bravery of Wafa Sultan or Aayan Hirsi Ali, this young woman maintains her muslim identity. Recognizing the source of such evil yet refusing to shed personal identity to such evil shall garner no sympathy. We all make choices, she will live with hers.
""My research left me sickened by the hypocrisy, psychological bullying, use of money as power and the seediness of these clubs. Some respectable, even religious men visit Mujra clubs - condemning these vulnerable women in public whilst pursuing them in private," she says."
http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/theatre/884
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ: hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
"Britain's most controversial Muslim playwright
Unlike the bravery of Wafa Sultan or Aayan Hirsi Ali, this young woman maintains her muslim identity. Recognizing the source of such evil yet refusing to shed personal identity to such evil shall garner no sympathy. We all make choices, she will live with hers.
Posted by: justamomof4"
In her defense:
Life is a journey, and the fact that she is thinking about and dares to speak about these issues, means that she is at least questioning elements of islam. Ultimately, the truth seeker will get to a place where they can renounce the evil.
My prayer is she will eventually be set free from identifying with islam. Most of us, after great thought, or the accumulation of experience as we live our lives, have changed our minds 180 degrees about something or other. I feel we shouldn't be too hard on her, but encourage her to continue speaking out.
In the longer version of the article, she seems to say that she does not practice religion at all. Hopefully, she will be strong enough to resist any efforts to force her back into that cult. She had a horrible childhood, cruel and heartless as so many Muslim childhoods must be. A repeating theme throughout her story was the fact that family members victimized other family members, those weaker than themselves. How sick! Instead of the family home as being a place where one can be loved and feel safe, it becomes a torture chamber. No wonder there is such cruelty in Islam. It begins in the home, reinforced by the Koran and the mosque, and continues to affect the world as Muslims, twisted by the negative effects of their own childhoods, inflict hatred, pain and suffering on the rest of us. This is a fascinating look into the seat of the Muslim world, the family structure. I wish Yasmin well. Keep writing and talking. More people need to hear this.
Why was her father acquitted? Was he found not guilty? If so, who murdered her mother?
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I bet ken livingstone won't be inviting her around for tea and biscuits.
"...For instance, I wrote about "honour killings" in my play Reshaam before 9/11 had happened, and the feedback I received from Pakistani communities at the time was: "Thank you for writing about this."
...P.S. we know where you live.....
"For daring to write about this sensitive subject, I was set upon by jeering young Asian men howling obscenities, and by elderly men who spat at me.
My car was blown up in an arson attack, apparently as a punishment from a self-righteous religious fundamentalist incensed at my reputation as a "non-believer in God".
....yep, but these acts of violence were from "a few Muslims who have hijacked the Islamic religion for their own self-set ideals."....
....ha, you think writing about Islam brings you violence...try leaving it....
...Ban Muslim Immigration...
"......If so, who murdered her mother?
Posted by: atheling..."
....hmmmm, possibly a Muslim .....yes, I am sure of it....
justamomof4 and Stand fast in the liberty:
Toward the end of the article Whittaker-Khan says:
"My heritage is Muslim; but I'm not a follower of any religion."
"If so, who murdered her mother?"
and was this alien cultural murder carried out in the UK?
if so then why did the UK bother to fight in WW2 and defend her island when 60 years later would they hand over sovereignty so easily to an alien and imperialistic peoples without a single shot being fired? (the bombs came later when this alien civilisation had firmly established themselves in the UK and claimed to be as british as mr smith or mrs jones).
every wave of migrants to the UK who engaged in seditious actions or an "invasion" party were generally met with spears, bombs, guns and murder. this latest invasion of the british isles has been met with free social welfare, free schooling, free food vouchers, free cars (yes some are given free cars) free homes. in return we have been treated to the destruction of the british countryside to house the millions that have come in, the gradual erosion of the british culture, a massive crime epedemic, slaughter of whites in "ethnic" areas and alien cultures such as honour killing and voodo sacrifices. (please feel free to add to this list)
but still, we do have polish guest workers so i guess we are doing just great.
note to jihadwatch posters...in no way does my posting imply that i am
a) a neo-nazi
b)a neo-fascist
c) a crypto-fascist
d) a nazi skinhead
e) a "jew" (not my words) hating nazi
f) a racist (define racism)
g) a bigot
h) a traitor
Just to clarify. . ."honor" killings pre-date Islam by centuries. In addition, they are un-Islamic. They are believed to have their origins in misinterpretations of pre-Islamic Arab tribal codes. So it is unfair to blame them on Islam. And it is also unfair to blame them on the tribes, which in fact have much more humane ways of dealing with these things.
That said, sometimes things begin for one reason and continue for another. It is the case that most of the estimated 5,000+ "honor" killings per annum occur in Arab/Muslim countries and in Arab/Muslim immigrant communities elsewhere. So there is a correlation, but not necessarily causality.
Ms. Whittaker-Khan's plight highlights quite poignantly a point I have been attempting to make for years now, when faced with people who are prone to trivializing the toll "honor" killings take in the cultures in which they occur.
Too often, I have heard some variation of, "Oh, but it only happens to X number of people each year." And I say, "But the dead victims are not the only casualties. They impact the perpetrators, too. These crimes divide the families in which they take place. They put all girls and women on notice that, if they don't conform to the expectations of the male members of their families, this could happen to them, too. And it diminishes us all when the value placed on human life is so low."
Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
"Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"
(Available on the American version of Amazon.com)
Just to clarify. . ."honor" killings pre-date Islam by centuries. In addition, they are un-Islamic. They are believed to have their origins in misinterpretations of pre-Islamic Arab tribal codes. So it is unfair to blame them on Islam. And it is also unfair to blame them on the tribes, which in fact have much more humane ways of dealing with these things.
That said, sometimes things begin for one reason and continue for another. It is the case that most of the estimated 5,000+ "honor" killings per annum occur in Arab/Muslim countries and in Arab/Muslim immigrant communities elsewhere. So there is a correlation, but not necessarily causality.
Ms. Whittaker-Khan's plight highlights quite poignantly a point I have been attempting to make for years now, when faced with people who are prone to trivializing the toll "honor" killings take in the cultures in which they occur.
Too often, I have heard some variation of, "Oh, but it only happens to X number of people each year." And I say, "But the dead victims are not the only casualties. They impact the perpetrators, too. These crimes divide the families in which they take place. They put all girls and women on notice that, if they don't conform to the expectations of the male members of their families, this could happen to them, too. And it diminishes us all when the value placed on human life is so low."
Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
"Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"
(Available on the American version of Amazon.com)
I know the common call among many of my civilized decent fellows in the West is: "We must work with the 'moderate' Muslims to defeat the Jihadis"
Yet the endless and hideous revelations about the Muslim society and culture convinces me that the cancer of Islam, and the damage it does to the societies it infects is a hopeless and intractable problem, and one which threatens to harm us far more than we have already witnessed. In the end, Islam will kill us, and destroy everything our forefathers died to create in the West.
I know it's a noble attempt on the part of Westerners to avoid mass-destruction and annihilation of 'the other' -- but attempting to salvage the unsalvageable, or to fix the unfixable in this regard is a fool's errand.
As horrendous as this woman's plight was and is, I am convinced that Muslim society is nothing short of a societal cancer for those who are exposed to it. Islam is a deadly social pathogen, a vicious and metastasizing malignancy -- one which, by our toleratiion of the Islamic tumor to persist and grow within our society (as well as our vain naive hopes that those 'moderates' within Islam will ever offer us any help), all of it calls our survival into question... There is only one result which our unsure stance towards Islam and Muslims will yeild -- our destruction at their hands.
Little short of severe quarantine and extreme measures to keep Islam and Muslim society down and to keep it as far out and as far away from our society is necessary. This will require extreme measures -- drastic measures which, so far, our society is simply too polite and too 'civilized' and, perhaps, too frightened to contemplate or discuss.
But with every revelation of the horror of Islam, I'm convinced to my core that if the cancer Islam is allowed to persist and spread unchecked within our Western societies, the inevitable outcome will be our destruction, our degradation, our subversion, and the societal cultural of everything our forefathers have accomplished in the West.
This vicious Islamic enzyme of destruction must not be allowed to persist on our soil. I have pity and sympathy for this woman's plight -- but she still identifies herself as a "Muslim"! How can this be!? Given the horrors she's experienced first hand, one would think she'd repudiate her culture of origin, and the hideous 'religion' which brought about the murder of her mother, and do it utterly... But she remains a Muslim -- and she allows Islam to persist within herself thereby perpetuating the institutional nightmare she's fighting desperately to escape.
I know this won't be recieved well at this site -- but how much use are such 'moderate' Muslims in the cause of saving the West from Islamic predation?
The answer is: She's of very little use whatsoever.
I pity her. I feel for her predicament -- but if she doesn't have the courage to utterly jettison the filth which has nearly and directly annihilated her -- then there is no hope for her -- no hope for us with regards to the help she or others like her may offer. She's certainly of little to no use to Westerners who wish to preserve and protect all that our forefathers have accomplished. Her story can only serve us by revealing the horrors which come when Muslims are allowed to colonize our towns, villages, and cities in the West. Nothing more.
It should be clear to everyone, but it's not. Muslims are dragging us down into the sewer where they permanently reside -- why should we permit it for one moment longer?
Some people will say what I suggest is indecent -- that it makes me no better than the Jihadis themselves who call daily for our annihilation -- but it's clear that the culture which coughs up those violent Muslim Jihadi villains is also the exact same Muslim culture to which this woman still clings -- Quite frankly, they all must go from here if we wish to remain out of the sewer in which Muslims and Islam wallow.
jsla
here here
you nailed this post right on its head!
"I have pity and sympathy for this woman's plight -- but she still identifies herself as a "Muslim"
Amazingly thin skinned (are they at Jihad Watch)Dale from Atlanta ! How true is everything you say! I too have been the victim of the amazingly thin skinnedness of the people who run this site - the site is very valuable to the survival of the world, though, I know it does not push the panic button hard enough - and will not go the whole way towards condemning the Koran as a hopeless flawed religious document which is guilty of advocating cold blooded murder - a totally unfixable Bible! But, in my opinion, the site owners wish to be "RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT" rather than to be seen as people who see the truth that Muslims will always be on the verge of murder unless that "Bible" is destroyed - or rewritten drastically. This, they would rather die then say.
Just to clarify. . ."honor" killings pre-date Islam by centuries. In addition, they are un-Islamic. They are believed to have their origins in misinterpretations of pre-Islamic Arab tribal codes. So it is unfair to blame them on Islam. And it is also unfair to blame them on the tribes, which in fact have much more humane ways of dealing with these things. - Petra
It may be unfair to blame the "origin" of honor killings on islam and the tribes who practice such barbarous acts. But it is absolutely CORRECT to hold them accountable for continuing such barbaric and savage deeds. I seriously doubt that even a single woman was concerned about the origin of the term "honor killing", in the moments preceding their executions. More likely they wondered in terror, "How can this terrible wrong, take place within the oh-so-perfect laws of islam?" And would their last words be, "allahu akbar"?
Thank you for the link to this excellent article.
To those who persist in criticizing her, this is what the article says:
"My heritage is Muslim; but I'm not a follower of any religion."
Two words:
Kev - Lar.
The arson attack on her car after the tour of her play, 'Bells' (as well as the obscenities yelled at her by Muslim youths and the spitting by older Muslims) highlights the casual violent and criminal behaviour with which this religious group imposes its norms.
"But in my opinion,the site owners wish to be "RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT" rather than to be seen as people who see the truth that Muslims will always be on the verge of murder unless that "Bible" is destroyed-or rewritten drastically. This they would rather die than say."
-tom
Muslims,friend,wound not cease to "always be on the verge of murder" even if the Bible were somehow revised to meet Muslim criteria.(which is inconstant actually) Placation results in more suffering and less of a foothold. This site approaches the situation from a more scholarly angle in regards to those texts and motivations which are seen as vital to this ideology and its fruits. There is less of an emotive response here than at similar sites.
Take heart,it appears as if finding this site may be turn out to be invaluable for you.
Just don't expect the operators of this site to ever stray from the course of their labor. Even if many of islam's adherents form an inter-generational genetic cocktail which makes Pagan Rome look like a folk dance.
After her mother's honor killing, has Yasmin Whittaker-Khan left Islam? Looks like she hasn't. Sorry, but no sympathy for Yasmin Whittaker-Khan .
Josephine
To those who persist in criticizing her, this is what the article says: "My heritage is Muslim; but I'm not a follower of any religion."
You're wasting your time, Josephine - the critics wouldn't have bothered reading down that far.
Do you know, I remember this case. It happened two streets away from where I grew up. When I saw the mother's picture in the paper this morning I recalled it instantly. She was very striking, and there were police "Murder" posters of her everywhere, pics in the local paper etc. In those far-off innocent days, the case was reported as a crime of passion - she wanted to leave her husband and he killed her for it. The idea of killing for "honour" would have seemed ridiculous, like something out of a Mario Puzo novel. How times have changed...
We need G.C. Scott: Sir, I do not think you understand what I wrote at all - please re-read with a view that you will probably find in me a person more or less of your own temperment! Here it is once again - your heart is in here I think:
"Dale from Atlanta ! How true is everything you say! I too have been the victim of the amazingly thin skinnedness of the people who run this site - the site is very valuable to the survival of the world, though, I know it does not push the panic button hard enough - and will not go the whole way towards condemning the Koran as a hopeless flawed religious document which is guilty of advocating cold blooded murder - a totally unfixable Bible! But, in my opinion, the site owners wish to be "RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT" rather than to be seen as people who see the truth that Muslims will always be on the verge of murder unless that "Bible" is destroyed - or rewritten drastically. This, they would rather die then say.
I do blame islam for honor killings because it is now almost wholly an islamic abomination. I know that it pre-dated islam but muslims just can't seem to let it go, can they? Muslims cling to the most savage, evil, unspeakable traditions, which are in no way "equal" to mine. The culture spawned by islam is malevolent to the core and it does not belong in the West. This vile religion and culture should be isolated as far away as possible from the West and the rest. Otherwise, we are facing perpetual war.
Will those of you condemning this brave woman for being critical of Muslims but without leaving Islam, PLEASE NOTE... SHE SAYS:
"My heritage is Muslim; BUT I AM NOT A FOLLOWER OF ANY RELIGION" (my caps).
So there you have it! She is Muslim IN NAME ONLY. There is no hypocrisy. There is no lack of courage. There is no wish to 'have it both ways' as could be fairly said of Irshad Manji.
The description of her as a "Muslim playwright" is apparently the Daily Mail writer's perception, rather like describing as "Jewish" someone who is born a Jew but is not religious. Jewish? Not?
At any rate, the confusion is not Yasmin Whittaker-Khan's. She is NOT religious by her own words so get off her back! She has enough sh!t to deal with already with Muslims stalking her, threatening her, spitting at her, and torching her car.
"In those far-off innocent days, the case was reported as a crime of passion - she wanted to leave her husband and he killed her for it. The idea of killing for 'honour' would have seemed ridiculous, like something out of a Mario Puzo novel. How times have changed..."
Posted by: Matamoros
How times have changed, indeed.
Tom --
Please stop copying & pasting the same message over and over. I've seen in at least three threads and now you've posted it twice in this thread. It's boring. "Dale from Atlanta" hasn't even posted on at least two of the threads, including this one.
Instead of copying & pasting the same criticism of the folks at Jihad Watch, please give us some commentary on the topics at hand. It sounds as if you agree with the basic premise of this site.
While we infidels cringe in horror at her mother's murder by Islam, Yasmin Whittaker-Khan, has no problem cointuining as a muslim. Much like while Monica and Bill's sexcapades shocked the world, Hillary doesn't have a problem with Bill's adultry. Don't see any 'bravery' of Yasmin or Hillary. Hence, no sympathy to any of the above. Just making my stand clear.
While we infidels cringe in horror at her mother's murder by Islam, Yasmin Whittaker-Khan, has no problem cointuining as a muslim. Much like while Monica and Bill's sexcapades shocked the world, Hillary doesn't have a problem with Bill's adultry. Don't see any 'bravery' of Yasmin or Hillary. Hence, no sympathy. Just making my stand clear.
I am so suprised at all the people critisising this woman because she identifies herself as a Muslim. You should all be ashamed of herself. Every single one of you recognise that Islam is a religion of abuse. How long does it take a woman who has been in an abusive relationship to not identify with her abuser.
This playwrite, as far as I can tell, in no way condones Islam. She is speaking about these abuses and bringing them to light. In the 70's when her Mother was murdered, no one spoke about honour killings. Women, in Brtiain, where to scared to talk about it. She is part of the process bringing these abuses out in the open.
The wonderfully courageous Wafa Sultan, Who I have had the privelige of hearing, Has one thing that Yasmin Whitaker-Khan did not appear to have growimg up - the support of her family.
Some of the comments posted here say they don't feel for her because she does not renounce Islam. What arrogance, have you lived her life, felt her fear, her pain? What is the Indian saying "Do not judge a man till you walk for a time in his Moccasin's".
shez
would i have welcomed the roman invasion with open arms? no i would have been down on the beaches with my brothers. spear in hand.
i consider this latest chapter in british history as an invasion. nothing more.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=480719&in_page_id=1879
shez, i read the whole thing. total loony toons. i don't want my friends and family exposed to this crap. would they please kindly take their alien repressive way of life elsewhere. she needs to renounce islam and then set about freeing women from islam around the world. i would rather see london as a base for women seeking refuge from islam rather than islamic fundamentalist militants using london as a safe haven.
leonthepigfarmer
Please don't get me wrong. I would much rather spend my time helping the victim's of these oppresive regimes find a safe haven in the West. Trust me I have seen first hand what Islam is and what it does.
Below is a comment I left on a different post.
My point above was that without people like her we would not be aware of what really goes on in their closed society. Honour killings would still be called "a crime of passion" almost romantic. Do you remember a hit song by Tom Jones called "Delilah"? As I child I remember it on the radio it was a beautiful romantic song or so I thought. As I teenager I heard the song again , a love song to a woman he killed in a "crime of passion". Horrific.
We now know that in Muslim societies this is a routine way of ensuring male domination over women. We understand that their way of life is one that we don't want our family exposed to. This is because women like her are saying what they are saying.
Below is a comment I left on a different post.Also relevant to this one.
This was a comment made regarding the article
"Ohio mosque tour clears up misconceptions about Islam"
Credit Man,
I to want women of the world all over to get mad and help our sisters who are oppressed anywhere in the world. But it would appear that our feminists our confusing the right to wear a Burkha in the West with the right NOT to wear one in the Muslim world. They feel that by fighting for the Muslim womens right to vote, get a drivers License or work with the Hijab or Burkha they have done their bit.
I am a board member for a particular womens group,that among other things has delegates going once a month to a UN meeting that discusses womens' issues. Without fail Israel is brought up and the plight of the poor Palestinian Women unable to get through check posts and so on is brought up. Never honour killings and the like.
One day I tried to change the subject and tried bringing up the refuges set up for women in Israel trying to escape honour killings (I was involved in this project while I lived in Israel).
I tried to bring them the story of a women that was brought to my attention(while I was living in Israel). She was a divorced women living in an arab village, she had an affair and ended up pregnant. A friend of mine, who she was working for, rang me up and asked me for help. The women wanted an abortion because if she was found out she would be killed. The poor women had no one she could turn to in her village, not her doctor, not her sister, not her friends. She had to turn to an evil Israel oppressor for help.I was a medical rep at the time. I rang the head of the gynecological Dept. at one of the hospitals and told him the story. Within a day the women was seen and helped at no cost to her and no medical records to trace.
These women, who spouted forth all the rehetoric for rights of women did not want to hear about the true abuses and how Israel tries to deal with them.
Our so called feminist, instead or rallying around brave women such as AAyan Hirsi Ali who are out there talking about the abuses,turn their backs on them. Our so called feminists ignore the screams and anguish of women who are oppressed by Islam. They prefer to deal with the whining of a couple of spoiled brats who complain about not being able to vote with their Burkha. What they shoud be doing is reminding them that in Saudi Arabia they don't have the right to vote.
I am ashamed that at one point in my youth I referred to myself as a femenist.
Josephine ! I seldom duplicate, and I am not allowed to post except on the green side - but, point taken, I shall improve.
shez
"to want women of the world all over to get mad and help our sisters who are oppressed anywhere in the world. "
i totally agree with your statement.
and personally think that you are a great human being for your work. thank you.
I hate to play devil's advocate on this one but I have to say, I wasn't completely convinced. The author didn't even provide the slightest evidence that her father was responsible for her mother's death other. And in spite of essentially accusing her father of the murder, she later goes on to say the police 'took the easy way out' in arresting him, giving me the feeling that maybe the author herself might be a little confused about what she believes.
Now I am certainly not trying to build a case that her father *wasn't* responsible, simply pointing out that it might be a little hasty to condemn someone for a crime without any supporting evidence.
It is the journalist who identifies this playwright as Muslim. In contrast, Begum Khan paints a different picture: "mentally and socially I am half English and half Pakistani, and proud to be both. My heritage is Muslim; but I'm not a follower of any religion."
Short of carrying around a flashing neon sign that glows APOSTATE OF ISLAM -- SO KILL ME, she couldn't state her identity as a non-Muslim any clearer. Leave her alone.
As expected, my post has drawn hostility. I read the whole article, including her non-disavowal disavowal of Islam.
I also expressed pity and sympathy for her plight. But sadly, it comes as no surprise to me to read the bleeding hearts here who attack me for wanting to see Islam's dysfunctional family expelled from our home in the West.
I repeat:
It's not our burden to fix Islam's unfixable society! It's not our burden, and it will be the hugest catatrophe for us, to take responsibility for that which the Muslims (and solely Muslims)are responsible: Islam.
To take on this burden, as the bleeding hearts above seem flailingly eager to do, will mean our undoing in the West.
The dysfunctional family of Islam has over 1.3 billion members in it. We in the America and Europe represent less than 3/4 of a billion -- our wealth is not unlilmited -- our land is not unlimited -- our will and our generosity and our tolerance is not unlimited -- yet the bleeding hearts who want to save every Muslim from the heinousness of Islam would condemn us to a hopeless and horrific task -- that of allowing millions of drowning Muslims to crowd onto our little floating raft, while others of those drowning Muslims are stabbing and ripping at that very raft.
It's suicidal folly of the most gigantic proportions -- and in your bleeding heart thrashings, you condemn all to drown in the calamity which will be inevitable if Muslims are allowed to remain here.
jsla
just be grateful that you live in the USA. if you had made those comments in a public arena then you would be facing prosecution and possible jail time.
i personally agree with your points of view. some don't but that's their right.
"It's not our burden to fix Islam's unfixable society! "
i made almost the same statement regarding an african individual living in italy. i was called a "jew" (not my word) hating nazi and other degrading statements.
we in the west will no longer put up with this enforced mass immigration, we will no longer give our taxes to build these mosques in return we are subjected to ethnic cleansing and bombs.
as stated earlier, invasions of albion were generally met with spears, bombs and guns. today we greet the the invaders with money and submission.
but, we will answer in the next election, with dignity, with peace and with a determination to regain good old albion.
Right on JSLA! If we don't defend and value our culture we will loose it to something barbaric. It has happened before in the history of of mankind, and it will happen again unless the West wises up.
Petra said,
"Just to clarify. . ."honor" killings pre-date Islam by centuries. In addition, they are un-Islamic."
Just just several questions for you: If Honor killings are so un-Islamic, why is this predominately practiced in Islamic cultures?
Why don't Jews in Israel stone adulterers? The Old Testiment says adulterers are supposed to be stoned. So why don't the Jews still do that?
Saying that an abomination existed long ago or that it predates a religion is no excuse for its perpetration or acceptance in these times.
Someone said that Islam is like The Borg in StarTrek. How true, how true.
No sympathy to a woman whose mother was killed when she was a wee child? Think of what your mother means to you or what your children mean to you.
Like with Pharaoh, the LORD has hardened their hearts...
If that is what it takes...I mean, I serious doubt that is what it takes to survive, neigh, emerge victorious in this epic civilizational struggle.
Heh. I post in haste...
No sympathy to a woman whose mother was killed when she was a wee child? Think of what your mother means to you or what your children mean to you.
Like with Pharaoh, the LORD has hardened their hearts...
If that is what it takes, God help us all...I mean, I seriously doubt that is what it takes to survive, nay, emerge victorious in this epic civilizational struggle.
"It's not our burden to fix Islam's unfixable society! " --jsla
That's not what people are taking issue with jsla.
The point of objection is where you and others insist that this woman, this playwright, Yasmin Whittaker-Khan, is still a Muslim. Clearly, by her own words, she is not.
You say you read the whole article but somehow you missed the part where she explains that she is not religious, i.e. she is NOT a Muslim.
You wrote: "I have pity and sympathy for this woman's plight -- but she still identifies herself as a 'Muslim'!"
No she didn't.
Then, as if one utterance of your misreading weren't enough you say it again in the same paragraph, "But she remains a Muslim."
No, she doesn't.
And no one even singled you out by name! And yet when your critical misreading (made by others too) is called out you change the subject to:
"But sadly, it comes as no surprise to me to read the bleeding hearts here who attack me for wanting to see Islam's dysfunctional family expelled from our home in the West."
Please quote for me the attack you received after your posting on this topic for "wanting to see Islam's dysfunctional family expelled from our home in the West." There was no such attack. There was no discussion at all on that point. The only upraid you received, not even by name, was over your strongly stated, mistaken idea that the woman was still Muslim. She wasn't, she isn't, and that's all we "bleeding hearts" were pointing out since it's a central point on this topic.