CAIR hits a new low of defamation

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has never cared much for the truth when speaking about me. The organization's spokesman, Ibrahim Hooper, has defamed me on national television, and the organization's website even featured a link, for a time, to a tissue of lies penned by a pathetic convicted felon.

But now CAIR has reached a new low, in a press release entitled, "'Islamo-Fascism' Week Speaker Meets With European 'Neo-Nazis.'"

WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) revealed today that the main speaker for an upcoming series of "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" lectures at university campuses nationwide recently offered a keynote address at a European gathering that included representatives of racist or "neo-Nazi" political parties.

The gathering was organized by American bloggers. It was about the Islamization of Europe. I had no hand in the selection of attendees, and was meeting most of them for the first time. No racist or neo-Nazi themes were discussed. If any of the people there are actually racists or neo-Nazis, I completely disavow them and all racist and neo-Nazi ideas. Now: will CAIR do the same thing regarding Hamas?

What's more, the real neo-Nazis of the Aryan Nations have said: "Islam is our ally, and the 1500 cults all claiming to be 'Christian' are our opposition."

Author Robert Spencer, who is scheduled to appear beginning next week at universities such as Brown, DePaul and Dartmouth, is regarded by American Muslims as one of the nation's worst Islamophobes. His virulently anti-Islam website promotes the idea that life for Muslims in the West should be made so difficult that they will leave.

Here again, there would be no "Islamophobes" if there were no Islamic jihad terrorism. The whole concept of "Islamophobia" is designed to divert attention away from Islamic terrorism and onto those who resist it. And we do not actually promote the idea that life will be made so difficult for Muslims that they will leave. In reality, I have consistently asked that American Muslim advocacy groups like CAIR help implement comprehensive programs in American mosques and Islamic schools to teach against the jihad ideology and Islamic supremacism, and that they renounce now and for the future, in deed as well as word, any intention to impose Sharia here. Why is that too much to ask? Why does that make me an "Islamophobe"?

Spencer recently spoke at a so-called "Counterjihad Brussels 2007" conference in Belgium attended by those with links to far-right parties such as Filip Dewinter of Vlaams Belang (Belgium) and Ted Ekeroth of Sverigedemokraterna (Sweden). Both parties have been accused of either having a racist platform, a neo-Nazi past or having links to neo-Nazis and other racists....

I know very little about Dewinter and virtually nothing about Ekeroth, and I am not going to be held responsible for all the ideas and associations of people with whom I shared a platform, any more than they should be held responsible for mine. It is noteworthy that the New York Times, in a profile of Dewinter, found no grounds to call him a neo-Nazi, which they surely would have if they could have. It is also perhaps worth noting that his father was in the anti-Nazi resistance. But ultimately, I said it all above: if there were any actual neo-Nazis there, I disavow them, and ask CAIR likewise to disavow the terrorists of Hamas.

Later on they quote Hugh Fitzgerald (why the quotation marks around his name?):

Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch Board Vice President "Hugh Fitzgerald" wrote on that hate site: "Only one group, only one belief-system, distinguishes itself by appearing incapable of fitting in. And that is Muslims, and Islam ... if one really knew what Islam contained ... then how could any decent person remain a Muslim?"

"Only one group, only one belief-system, distinguishes itself by appearing incapable of fitting in." Right. That's why there was a "Muslim Accommodations Task Force" (that was an MSA initiative; they're doing their best to erase all traces of it, but it's still mentioned on this Google Cached page). Why no "Hindu Accommodations Task Force"? "Buddhist Accommodations Task Force"? Because such groups don't seem to have so much trouble...fitting in.

"...if one really knew what Islam contained ... then how could any decent person remain a Muslim?" So Hugh doesn't think Islam is true. This is hate speech? Christopher Hitchens says the same kind of thing about Christianity every day. Would CAIR recommend locking him up?

He also recommended that western nations be "Islam-proofed the way a house is child-proofed," compared Muslims to Nazis and urged that they be boycotted: "[I]t should not be hard to find ways to limit the spread or practice of Islam. And if in addition to whatever local, state and federal government officials do, private parties simply conduct their own boycott of goods and services offered by Muslims, in the same way that they would have refused to buy, in 1938, a German Voigtlander camera..."

This is the kind of suggestion that arises from the spread of Islamic supremacism and increasing demands for Muslim accommodation. If CAIR would renounce Sharia and political Islam, and accept the Western model of a society based on non-establishment of a religion, and ensure that these ideas are propagated among American Muslims, there would be no problem, would there? No need to think about how to protect our societies from Sharia.

But ultimately, I am not going to answer for Hugh Fitzgerald. Contrary to rumor, I am not Hugh, and he is not me -- we both attended the Horowitz Center's last Restoration Weekend, and this conflation of us is absurd. He may choose to answer for himself, or he may not. But if I am such a terrible "Islamophobe," why can't CAIR, after all these years, come up with any quotes from me to fill their hit piece with? It is not Hugh who is speaking this week at DePaul, Dartmouth, Brown, and URI. It is I. I've written seven books and hundreds of articles. You'd think they could find something in that huge mass of material, but no...they have to drag out some old musings by Hugh, that were just searching for a solution to a problem CAIR has resolutely refused to address.

Other speakers on the "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" tour include Ann Coulter, who refers to Muslims as "rag heads," and Daniel Pipes, a supporter of the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War II and of the views of French racist Jean-Marie Le Pen.

Why didn't CAIR mention Hugh Fitzgerald's criticism of LePen's racism and antisemitism?

"All those who value religious tolerance and diversity should be concerned about the growing links between European racists and American Islamophobes," said CAIR Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper.

Right, Ibrahim. But not in the least concerned about your own group's record of associations with jihad terrorists, eh?

Publicity for the tour got off to a bad start when it was revealed that the poster promoting the campus events used a photograph that purportedly showed a Muslim woman being stoned to death, but which was in fact an image from a fictional movie.

CAIR, of course, does not mention that eight women are right now awaiting stoning to death in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

UPDATE: Paul Belien of the Brussels Journal sends me this information:

It is simply not true that "Vlaams Belang's founders were Nazi collaborators in WW II."

Vlaams Belang founder Filip Dewinter was born in 1962 in a family that cannot be accused of Nazi sympathies. His father and uncle were members of the anti-German Resistance. Vlaams Belang was founded in 2004, sixty years after the end of WW II.

The Vlaams Blok, predecessor to the Vlaams Belang, was founded in 1977 by Karel Dillen (1925-2007). Mr Dillen came from a non-political background. His father, an Antwerp labourer, abandoned his wife and their two sons when when Dillen was still a baby. He was raised by his mother. Neither he, nor his brother nor his mother were involved in any political activities at all during the war, let alone that they belonged to pro-Nazi and collaborationist groups.

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"Christopher Hitchens says the same kind of thing about Christianity every day. Would CAIR recommend locking him up?"


Yes CAIR would but granted not because he said bad things about Christians.

It is funny how they call other people racist yet Dougie, Nihad, and the rest of the merry band have stated for the record their hope for Sharia law in America which is akin to some KKK guy ranting on about his dreams of America returning to segregation.

Mr Spencer:

No surprises from CAIR: Slander and defamation on the double from the terrorist supporting Islamo-fascist scum!

Who takes them seriously?


The same slime calls professor Ralph Giordano, a German holocaust survivor, Jewish professor and writer 'neo-nazi' because he objects to the mega-mosque in Cologne.

The same scum calls Israel 'nazi-apartheid- state' and worse. When will these creeps be told to go and shove it?

The organization CAIR should be banned from the United States. CAIR supports terrorist activity around the world and advocates for the full implementation of shariah. I am outraged and shocked that our American government recognizes and supports CAIR.

Look at this:
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

You want to talk about intolerance?

CAIR is filled with Islamic supremacists who want to impose Islam on the free world.

CAIR gets their supremacist views from Islam's "holiest book," the Quran.

Simply read the hate and the Islamic supremacy that is woven through the pages of the Quran:

The Koran invites Muslims to "wage war" against Christians and Jews and to pray that Allah will fight against them (9:30), Christians and Jews are labelled "infidels" and "hypocrites" who live in Hell (66:9), those who claim Jesus is the Son of God are called "liars" (4:171, 10:66-69), and will have "boiling water poured over the heads, melting whatever is in their bellies and skins'' (22:20).

"What's more, the real neo-Nazis of the Aryan Nations have said: "Islam is our ally, ..."

.....the old Nazis said the same thing....

Goodness gracious, Ibrahim Hooper has been a busy bee!

Ibby, if you are reading this, and I know you are, let me spell it out for you in simple terms that even a freedomphobe like you can understand. We do not dislike you because of your race, (whatever that is?) We do not dislike you because you dress differently than we do, even though you consign your women to wearing Hefty bags and unattractive headgear that does nothing to enhance their appearance. We do not dislike you because you eat differently than we do or pray differently or sometimes speak differently. You like to focus on those things when complaining about how the adherents to your political system of Islam are treated in this country, but you are a liar sir, and what's more you know you are a liar.

Here's what we don't like:

1) We don't like people who deliberately lie to us. It makes us irritable and, what with the road rage that many of us experience in our daily commutes, it adds to our crankiness.

2) We don't like preferential treatment for people who whine and play the victim. Drama, drama, drama. Come on Ibrahim, you know that no Muslims in America are being mistreated. NOT receiving preferential treatment does not = being mistreated.

3) We don't like cutting people. We are opposed to cruel and unusual punishment. We don't think it's cool that your buddy Ahmadinejad over in Iran regularly cuts people's skin with the lash, cuts people's hands and feet off in the name of justice, or cuts people's heads off because Mohammad did it (think Bani Quraiza.)

4) We don't like that you tell your people how to live their lives and punish them if they don't do it your way. And we certainly don't want you telling us how to live our lives. You want to see us become unpleasant? Carry on with that one.

You are obviously aware, since you grew up here, of the Cold War, of America's struggle against Communism. You must also be aware of Americans' aversion to Totalitarianism. We are opposed to it in any form, even one that masquerades as a religion. (Note to you.)

No Ibrahim, the things you complain about Americans not tolerating are window dressing. If you were honest, you wouldn't be a Muslim!! (Que the Tequila song and substitute "Taqiyah".) No, but seriously, if you were honest, you wouldn't distort the facts to achieve your goal of Islamic supremacism and world wide enslavement, as your chief honcho, Mohammad, dictated and as you so eagerly encourage. But then, if you didn't distort the facts and lie, who would accept your political ideology, except people who are terrified of being cut or having their families be cut. (See #3.)

Ibby, your group has got to stop making use of rape, with murder as a chaser, as a motivator to keep women down. Really, it's so, 7th century and not how polite society does business. It also makes your men look like perverts and cowards. And if someone sees your political ideology for what it is and wants to leave, you've got to stop harassing people when they do. It makes your group look very bad when your political leaders send out edicts that say, "He left the 'religion' so he has to die. Blah, blah, blah!"

No Ibrahim, the onus is not on Robert Spencer to prove that Islam sucks, the onus is on you to prove that it doesn't. Unfortunately, you and your adherents provide endless evidence to the contrary, and those of us who understand this are telling everyone what you are really all about. And they are listening.

Robert,

The more CAIR steps up their baseless, slanderous rhetoric against you, the more they reveal that are they are afraid of you, and with good reason.

The truth you speak about the Islamists and the impetus for their actions being derived from the holy Islamic texts should indeed make CAIR and their ilk, uncomfortable to say the least.

As "the sarge" says often, Islamists hate the truth, especially when we infidels know it.

Crap, just by checking the speaker's list with the strong Jewish representation, any suspicion of connection to Nazi elements already looks stupid.

As for the smears against Vlaams Belang, they are silly as well. I know some of their MP's, and they have no Nazi tendencies or connections whatsoever. Their predecessor, Vlaams Blok, might have had in its infancy. But that is at least 15 years ago, and any such connections had been cut completely.

Smears and accusations from the side of CAIR - who themselves are not at all free of Jew-hatred and supremacist tendencies.

Robert:

I was not aware that Ann Coulter participated as well. With due respect, the inclusion of so hateful a person as Ann Coulter in that summit was very unwise and even disgraceful. CAIR has indeed been handed a powerful weapon with which to play their ugly PR game. Pity.

"I was not aware that Ann Coulter participated as well."

She didn't, if you check the speakers' list and/or the CAIR release properly, you'll see that CAIR's simply trying to cause confusion by their mangled writing.

Standard practice, and an exercise for the reader to keep a straight mind.

Once again, I must congratulate Robert on ho he deals with people who evidently loves a "tequila"(Taquiyya), or doesnt know how to discuss things.

Congratulations Robert, for keeping your head cool, and always answering in a smart way. Even when CAIR creates excuses, lies, and defamation against you...

Mr. Spencer, why don't you just sue them? This is ridiculous, and this kind of defamation has to be actionable.

Mr. Spencer;

I think you missed the rhetorical cleverness of this bit:

Both parties have been accused of either having a racist platform, a neo-Nazi past or having links to neo-Nazis and other racists [emphasis added]
That's certainly literally true. And now, by putting that in this screed, CAIR can truthfully write the same about you in some future screed. Clearly they've learned something from the self-citing academic frauds in the news.

Interestingly enough, why doesn't CAIR acknowledge that the Nazi's DO have a connection to Islam. If one were so inclined to pick up "The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism" by Chuck Morse, they could read all about it. Don't worry, there are also pictures included just in case they can't read all the Islamaphobe propaganda.

Mr. Spencer,

I am not very articulate, so this will be short. I want you to know how truly grateful I am, for the work you do. I believe you are appreciated and needed, even more than you realize. Thank you.

Jewish holocaust survivor neo-Nazis?

That rumbling you feel under your feet is the vibration sent out by Der Feuhrer spinning in whatever grave his charred remains were placed in.

Robert:

Hey, look at the bright side...ya know your state-of-the-art BS-detector is working very well.

After all, the more you call it like it is, the more fibby has to slander you to save what little face he has left as a result of your exposure to his own lies, fraud and deceit.

That's the key in this...Robert can tell it like it is, because it's the truth, and he then moves onto thenext subject at hand...
fibby,on the other hand, being the lying fraudulent scam that he is, must compound his lies withmore and more lies to offset the lies he got exposed for before that, and so on and so on...he has to keep on top of it or collapse under the weight of his own lies, which he does every day anyway...which explains his stroke-inducing blood-red-faced tirades on his lackeys dhimmi-networks.

...all the while, the more enraged fibby gets, the coller-headed Robert gets...

Reality always wins...and fibby isn't it.
That's why he must slander...or explode, one.
(ooops, did I say that?)

;-)

"But now CAIR has reached a new low, in a press release entitled, "'Islamo-Fascism' Week Speaker Meets With European 'Neo-Nazis.'"-Robert

Fibrahim Hooper is a Rev. Jim Nutter by another name. CAIR reeks of deception (and bad judgement that is a consequence of their habits of deception). Few people buy these Goebbels-Sudetenland-style-propaganda accusations anymore. Folks know CAIR is the hindquarters of the real neo-Nazis.

Rather than believe Fibrahim Hooper and CAIR, folks are more likely to ask: what truth is Robert telling now that has these frauds at CAIR going into Goebbels-propaganda-mode?

"After all, the more you call it like it is, the more fibby has to slander you to save what little face he has left as a result of your exposure to his own lies, fraud and deceit".-jcom

You bet.

MeThinks suing CAIR for this one is hardly worthwhile. They're clever enough to have written a press release that looks like slander without really being it. There is little in the form of 'hard' accusations in it.

Also, CAIR has their credibility more tarnished than Spencer by putting out this low-quality libel :)

ugh...sorry Robert, that's "cooler-headed" not coller...sheesh.
Must be speaking typonese today...lol

From the blurb in the header:"I've written seven books and hundreds of articles. You'd think they could find something in that huge mass of material"

Even their "let's take one of Mr Spencer's comments out of context, then edit it, prune it, then use that to compare Mr Spencer with Hitler/ Stalin/ Pol Pot" strategy has failed. You clobbered those sorry excuses for an argument out of the ground a long time ago.

So they resort to that lamest of lame accusations: "You are friends with people who are friends with this guy who once........"

The stuff of village gossips FFS

The debate with the followers of religion of peace becomes almost impossible after a point. I am not European, and I am also not a very patriotic to my own 'country', but I do not see any reason why Europeans should not protect fiercely their lifestyle and their values. If that is "Nazism", then what we will call to the people where their is no freedom of religion, no human rights, the groups with life style not confroming to majority, simply do not exist, and can be executed. I think people all over the world will take inspiration from these brave Europeans and will start similar gatherings everywhere.
It is time our stupid media, politicians and liberal left ask the organization like CAIR in Bill O Reilly's format of yes or no to the questions like:
1. Do you believe in imposition of Sharia even non violently?
2. Do you think Sharia law is better than democratic systems?
3. Are you loyal to Sharia or laws of the land?
2. Do you beliee in the rights of minority and homosexuals?
3. Do you believe in freedom of expression?
4. Do you believe that other religions are inferior to Islam?
Only first question is enough.
I am fed up with stpid questions asked by polls like 'Do you feel suicide bombing is justified?', 'Do you believe in violent extremism?' and so on.
They do not have guts to ask real questions, or more dangerous alternative is that they are so dumb that they are not able to frame right questions.

Isn't it obvious? Fibriham Hooper and other Muslims like him are afraid they will be ambushed and executed (Islam style) if they agree with our democratic ideals! They are the world's biggest cowards! They lie because the Qur'an tells them they will not be punished if the lie protects Islam! (There is probably a special place in heaven for these liars too!!) Rushdie, Hirsi Ali and Shoebat are my heroes - brave, unflinching and intelligent former Muslims!

Just a Post Script! All Muslims (except Rushdie, Hirsi Ali and Shoebat and some I don't know about) are AFRAID to disagree with the Qur'an! Even OBL is a coward - hiding out in a cave too! They don't think for themselves! They are governed by evil writings from the past. All Americans should read the Qur'an and discover for themselves the evils in this book. Reading the Qur'an has never converted anyone! Conversion comes through duplicity, cajoling an unbeliever into saying certain words that automatically makes him a Muslim. And once you are in, your attempt to get out will result in death! Americans who convert to Islam have to continue in it or face the music.







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