Have the Sikh separatists really thought through the long-term consequences of siding with the jihadists? Do they really think that, if the jihadists had their way, they would honor the desire for a separate Sikh homeland?
"India police see Islamic militants in cinema bomb," from Reuters:
CHANDIGARH, India - Indian police say they suspect Muslim militants allied with Punjab separatists were behind a blast that killed six people and injured 32 at a crowded cinema hall in northern India.
The multiplex Shingar Cinema in the industrial city of Ludhiana in Punjab state was packed with about 600 people at the time of the blast on Sunday. Police say plastic explosives were used in the bomb.
‘The leads into the blast indicated Muslim fundamentalists could have collaborated with Babbar Khalsa International and Khalistan Commando Force (both Punjabi militant groups) to plant the bomb,’ senior police intelligence officer Jagdish Mittal told reporters in Ludhiana.
Security forces have increased vigil in areas like multiplexes, and railway and bus stations since the attack.
The Indian province of Punjab saw over a decade of violence in the 1980s when Sikh militants demanded a separate Sikh homeland they called Khalistan.
Indian intelligence agencies also say Islamist militant groups, backed by Pakistani spy agency ISI, increasingly target Muslim and Hindu religious places to trigger communal clashes between the two communities.
Sunday’s blast followed a bomb explosion last week after evening prayers at the Muslim Ajmer Sharif shrine in northwestern India, in which at least two people were killed.
Newspaper reports say police suspect Bangaldeshi militants were involved in that blast, again backed by Pakistani militants and the ISI.
The blast was in Ludhiana,in the Punjab, not in Kashmir. Unlikely that Sikhs would be involved in bombing their own people. Islamic terrorists who hate and fear the Sikhs at the same time, are more likely behind this.
I think we ought to exercise the appropriate skepticism when regarding responsibility for this blast. It's certainly possible the two groups are working together, but I find it highly unlikely.
Sikh agitation for a separate 'Khalistan' has been on the wane for the last decade. Much more likely the perps were Jihadis. The Punjab borders on Pakistan....and is crawling with Muslims.
No Cornelius actually, Punjab Is like 57% Sikh, 40% Hindu and 3 % Muslim as Punjabis kicked out their Muslims during partition.
I doubt this was anything to do with Sikh militants as their modus operandi is now targetting high profile targets. Their last major success was over a decade ago when they killed the Chief Minister of Punjab in a bomb attack. Sikh Militants have taken aid from Pakistan but then again they are just working on the old adage my enemy's enemy is my friend. Sikh militants are not stupid and they understand that the Pakistani aid is just an attempt to destabilise India. Sikh militants want to create a separate state of Khalistan in present day Punjab and if anything I think the people on this forum should support this demand. The Punjab was one of the few regions in history to firstly win back its freedom from Islamic rule and secondly in 1947 to clear out millions of Muslims in order to make space for Sikh and Hindu refugees fleeing Pakistan. Punjab was a success story and if anthing an example for how Islam should be treated. But being a part of India has subjected Punjab to unhindering infiltration by Muslims from the rest of India as well as from Bangladesh. From only a few thousand in 1947 the Muslims now number at least 350,000! Whereas the Punjab was able to clear Muslims out in 1947, India allowed tens of Millions to stay on in the rest of India. An independent Sikh State would be a bulwark against Islam in south Asia given the Sikhs historical enmity with Islam.
"I think the people on this forum should support this demand. "
Posted by: Sainapat
Smoking something, are we ? 99.9% of the Sikhs don't want this so - called independence. For the .1% wackos, well, there are several K.P.S. Gills. And I agree with the posters above, this is not the work of Sikhs, but that of the jihadis. Their name is being dragged into this because of PC reasons, and because once in their history some of them went crazy.
These are the works of Muslims hobnobbing with marginal Sikhs in Punjab. Hindus do not have any say in India now. They are used like 'fodder' by the 'secular' politicians to be killed by Terrorist of all sorts and for the 'votes' only in 'elections' of 'democracy'. The 'commies-Leftists' are continuing to fool people even today. The present day 'Govt.' has failed to conclude the Indo-US deal because of Left's/commies hate for everything American. The 'leftards' have large influence on Muslims and Dalits in India . Minorities are all with Leftards along with the Leftard intellectuals. They are rewriting the Indian History and in pursuit of 'secularism' they are helping produce young adults who are devoid of any thinking etc.and exist in 'moral vacuum'. One reason one finds 'street riots' daily, lynching, rage etc.
Sainapat: if anything I think the people on this forum should support this demand.
What the...thanks but no thanks.
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One thing that was not mentioned in MSM was that this Ludhiana cinema hall was in a muslim neighbourhood. OTOH, mention of Khalistani babboons is to confuse the public and save whatever's left of the ROP image of islam. Traitors, all.
The Sikh religion was born from the struggle against muslim genocide of the Punjabi, IIRC.
Can't believe the terror act had anything to do with Sikh.
Muslim neighbourhood! All thanks to Indian government. The Punjab can't protect itself from the criminal of immigrants from the rest of India who are both Hindus and Muslims. Crime rate in Ludhiana has hit the roof as it has in all cities with these immigrants. Whereas the west at least still has the notional right to restrict immigration, Punjab is being innundated by these immigrants thanks to the Indian apes.
Muslim neighbourhood! All thanks to Indian government. The Punjab can't protect itself from the criminal acts of immigrants from the rest of India who are both Hindus and Muslims. Crime rate in Ludhiana has hit the roof as it has in all cities with these immigrants. Whereas the west at least still has the notional right to restrict immigration, Punjab is being innundated by these immigrants thanks to the Indian apes.
Kash225,
I agree with all of your comments, however what I want to say with regards to the dalits and the "leftards".
The dalits I have met are very anti moslems, they also are not very impressed with the commies and the left in general.
Remember the Mahars have a long and proud history of fighting the moslems, especially under Shivaji.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Regiments/Mahar.html
Also don't forget these guys as well.
http://www.sikhli.org/
The people of India need to recognise the moslems as userpers and outsiders. THey also need to address the social injustice against the Dalits.
Regards
AI
apostate_islam ,
Thanks. I have great regards for sikhs and dalits too. Dalits are going to be the real new Hindus and make India strong along with Sikhs.
Thanks.
Sikh Militants have taken aid from Pakistan but then again they are just working on the old adage my enemy's enemy is my friend. Sikh militants are not stupid and they understand that the Pakistani aid is just an attempt to destabilise India.
by Sainapat
My enemy's enemy is my friend. Hasn't the Cold War shown the world the danger of alliances of convenience? If Sikhs are taking aid from Pakistan do they not believe a price will be exacted for this support? Pakistan is trying to destabilize India, so what do the militant Sikhs. if they really are teamed up, think will result from this? They might win a battle only to lose the war.
Marisol
"Do they really think that, if the jihadists had their way, they would honor the desire for a separate Sikh homeland?"
Ha ha , so this is how you aim on convincing violent sikh separatists ?
And did you think similarly in the past when the USA supported afghan jihadists against USSR?
And do you still think the same when the USA has strong relations with the Saudis?
Note I have no idea whether the sikh's were involved in this particular case, as others have already pointed out , sikh terrorism has become practically non existent in India these days.
Sainapat, i am sure the muslims of pak punjab are just waiting for the day when indian punjab is seperate. they will never forget the humiliating treatment meeted out to them by the sikhs and hindus in indian punjab. their ultimate goal is the complete domination of all former muslim india of the moguls.
If this so called khalistan is ever created in the indian side of punjab, this will become the next target of the special paki love brigades. and the rest of india may not even care as they will already be swamped with muslim citizens and illegal muslim immigrants from bangladesh.
Sainapat,
One understands your concerns regarding the soaring crime rate and mayhem due to the illegal bangladeshi immigrants. It is happening in Central India, too. The state of Madhya Pradesh was very peaceful because the jihadi population here was minimal (jihadi = muslim. I have given up trying to find a "moderate"). In the cities of Indore, Ujjain, Gwalior, Mandsaur, Shadol, there were riots during the ramadan. The regional dailies reported the incidents, but the Toilet Paper of India did not. It never does. Yesterday there were riots in a small town near mine when muslims attacked Hindu dancers celebrating Navratri. I guess we all have to live with the jihad, and breaking away parts is not a solution.
P.S. - My cousin lives in Ludhiana and I can understand how you feel, but I can't imagine having to take a visa to visit my nephews. Another partition is UNTHINKABLE.
Arjun
You have just outlined why India is a failure. No national party will ever do anything about the illegal immigration problem and you can look forward to more Muslim riots in future. What do you think is an effective counter to the Islamic manace? A united India which will always be governed by Muslim friendly parties, even the BJP could not do anything about this illegal immigration, or an India spit into a number of countries which are governed by parties who put that state first. A Khalistan, an independent Assam, Gujerat etc. No matter how difficult you find this to swallow the only other choice is a India gradually dying by being swamped by Bangladeshis and by high birth rate of Indian Muslims. If you think things are getting bad in Madhya Pradesh now wait a few more years and you won't recognise the place.
Sainapat,
Yes you are correct when you say that in a few years I won't recognize this place. There are some parts in my city that have gone muslim, one of them being some hills at the Western end. As kids, we had great fun at these hills, going for treks, picnics, picking guavas, kath and imli. muslims started encroaching upon these hills about 20 years back, and now the hills and the valleys are a slum. They started with some shacks, and then built the usual mosque and dargahs, and after that of course they could not be thrown out from there. All the trees that once grew there are no more. The valleys have turned into a swamp since all the sewage from the hills is directed there, and thousands of shacks now stand where once a forest was.
I won't swallow that Sainapat, since we already know that giving in to muslims is no solution. Look at pak and bangladesh. We gave them territory from West Punjab and East Bengal, but were they satisfied ? No, they were not and neither will they be satisfied with Kashmir, should we give in to their demands and give them that area. Then the Kashmiri jihadis will continuously invade East Punjab, for starters, like pak has been invading the nearest Infidel state, India. We agree that the borders of islam are bloody, have been bloody always, and therefore it is safe to assume that it will be so in the future. I repeat, giving in is not a solution.
P.S. - Have you been through this site ? Great one.
http://historyofjihad.org/
arjun.sevak, Sainapat and all other dear Hindu freinds,
India is already an "Islamic Country". India has a 'proxy' Govt. 'directed' by 'Islamists'. Nothing happens against their 'tastes'.India no longer counts in 'muslim' global calculations. Muslims are focussed now more on "USA and Europe". That is also going to be a 'done'thing after some year soon. Once thats over then 'Muslims' will 'arrange' according to their "Sharia" laws 'openly'everywhere. At the moment things are 'covert'. The "Great Mughal" Era is coming.
Wake up Hindu man.