An insensitive blow. "Bali bombers' sentences likely cut for Ramadan," by Cindy Wockner in The Courier-Mail (thanks to JE):
TEN terrorists involved in the Bali bombings are all likely to get sentence cuts to celebrate the end of Ramadan, it was revealed yesterday.As victims and families gathered in Bali late yesterday to commemorate the second anniversary of the second Bali bombings, which killed 20 people including four Australians, the list of radicals responsible for the carnage and who have been earmarked for remissions was being made public.
The announcement was received as an insensitive blow by families of those killed and injured in both murderous attacks. Kerobokan Jail boss Ilham Djaya said yesterday he had recommended that all 10 terrorists in his jail be given remissions of one month to one month and 15 days.
the 2005 Bali bombing , where 20 people were killed , not to be confused with the 2002 Bali bombing where 202 people were killed.
GrennBeck,
You're comment seems to attempt to 'justify' the light punishment since 'only' 20 people were killed. I would hope it is me that is guilty of misinterpretation, for if not, what should the sentence be if you keep the number of killed in the single digits?
I wonder how much time you get in Bali if you bomb a mosque?
1.
I bet my front teeth that the Bali bombers will not be executed. Why? Because of this:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/28/amnesty-calls-for-bali-bombers-lives-to-be-spared%e2%80%a6/
2.
OT, but should be of interest to everyone, because here is another attempt by a Muhammedan poster to obfuscate. It would be great if Robert or Hugh could explain to amateur scholars like us what this stuff is all about.
From the Andrew Bolt blog in Australia:
Kent, why don’t you mention the verse that says Koranic verses are of two kinds - the ones with obvious meanings and the ones with metaphorical or mystical meanings whose true meaning are known only to God?
And what about telling us about what processes are used by Muslim religious lawyers to extract rules from verses? You are obviously an expert on these issues. Share with us your knowledge.
Start by defining the following terms:
a. asbab an-nuzool;
b. qiyas;
c. ijma;
d. ilm al-rijaal;
e. ijtihad;
f. madhahib
Also, explain to us the 13-odd sciences that must be mastered before someone can authoritatively interpret the Koran.
I look forward to reading your answers.
My comment was to illuminate that the bombing was not a isolated incident .
...what is the value of the life of a Non Muslim vs that of a Muslim...?....Are those in charge saying the value of the lives of those Killed by Muslims are of less value than that of the Killers?...Are the killers being set free because the lives of the victims are considered unimportant and long jail sentences of the killers too extreme?....
....the message they are sending..."it is ok to kill, you will not serve long jail sentences if, by some twist of fate, you have to go to jail....
(and upon your release, you will be given new target assignments...please check in with your local bearded, crazed, fingerpointing Islamic cleric)....
....the message to the victims families...be armed, be prepared, be ready.....do not give killers the opportunity to go to jail....
GrennBeck,
Muslims remind us of that fact everyday, but thanks for the clarification, I will forego the extra dose of blood pressure medication.
"As victims and families gathered in Bali late yesterday to commemorate the second anniversary of the second Bali bombings, which killed 20 people including four Australians, the list of radicals responsible for the carnage and who have been earmarked for remissions was being made public".
The policy that the Israelis followed after the 1972 Olympic attack at Munich should be followed in these matters.
Everyone sing, now: "3 Christian girls' heads, 2 blown up clubs, and some time off for Ramadan!"
Sentences were between 8 and 18 years. And this aggregation includes the 2002 bombers. (For some reason the length of the sentences are some kind of state secret; I can't find them anywhere on the web)
And they just got a 6-month reduction in August, for Indonesia's Independence Day celebration.
What the hell kind of culture celebrates their holidays by letting killers out of prison? This is not exactly a strong sign of disapproval.
Also what kind of war is it when POW's are let out before it's over... answer: it's not a war from our perspective. Only theirs.
What kind of culture answers a war by being nice to the enemy's soldiers as a celebration? Answer: a doomed one.
Trouble.
This is so disgusting!! The Prophet (peace be upon his VICTIMS) is not pleased!! May Allah send another calamity, like the great tsunami, to their shores again, and again, and again! Thanks to global warming, many of their islands will soon disappear!
The Childlike Thinking of Liberals
They have so many "holidays" in Islam, these murderers will be out by next EID.
Has anyone in the UN protested this?
Or in any Western government?
Or NGO for peace and justice?
Or our own Congress?
Nah.
(But lying about Rush Limbaugh... now that's important.)
I bet they get a going away party...It should be a necktie party...
From Troll: Also, explain to us the 13-odd sciences that must be mastered before someone can authoritatively interpret the Koran
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
#1. We don't take tests administered by Mohammadans.
#2. We don't have to show YOU any stinking badges.
#3. And what comes out of the mouth of the master of 13 very odd sciences, that are required to do these magical interpretations? 'It is not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles him, it is what comes out of it that defiles him'. Who does the troll personally know who has 'mastered' these 'sciences'? And if the claim of mastership is made, how does the troll know that it is for real? How many muslims have mastered these mystical 13? Has the troll mastered them himself? If he has not, he does not understand the Quran either, so he is a hypocrite as well as a troll. If he has, he should be explaining them to us rather than questioning about it.
#4. There are actually 14-odd sciences...You must master 1-13 first...the 14th is short and sweet...It simply sez, ignore #'s 1-13, you don't have to master them, this is just another one of Allah's holy jokes. Somewhere in the cosmos, Allah is laughing...
Why do the muslims and their apologists make such a big deal about the fasting at Ramadan? Seems the only time they can't eat is between sunup and sundown, then from sundown to sunup they can gorge.
I do his almost everyday myself. Get up at 4am and eat at 4:30am, sun ain't up. Get to work at 5am and work most days til 7-8pm, sun gone down. Go home and eat supper. Do it again the next day. I also try and refrain from sex during my working hours, if possible. Damn, I must be a muslim!
'tis the "spirit of jihad" they keenly omit.
How is tourism doing on Bali. It should be a very hard sell for kuffirs.