"Shoebomber Richard Reid and 7/7 bombers Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were members."
"Islamic group 'with links to Al Qaeda' wants to open school near Olympic village," from the Daily Mail (thanks to all who sent this in):
An Islamic group accused of having links to al Qaeda wants to open a school near the 2012 Olympic village.Tablighi Jamaat wants the school for 500 boys to form part of an 18-acre complex which would include Britain's biggest mosque for 19,000 worshippers.
The group, which already runs a school in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, has always denied being linked to terror groups.
But the FBI has described it as "a recruiting ground" for al Qaeda.
Shoebomber Richard Reid and 7/7 bombers Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were members.
The proposal for the West Ham site has yet to be submitted to Newham Council for planning approval.
At its institute in Dewsbury, teenage boys devote six mornings a week to Islamic history, theology, law, Qur'an recitation and Arabic. Afternoons are set aside for the national curriculum.
England:
A small damp island full of warring tribes.
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On a positive note: The faster England Islamacizes and succumbs to full-scale civil war, the sooner America wakes up and takes decisive action.
If this project goes forward...then I fear the UKs fate is sealed. If they fail to see the danger this poses and do nothing...do they deserve what will follow? I think not. Ignorance is not grounds for death...but it may end that way.
"Tablighi Jamaat wants the school for 500 boys to form part of an 18-acre complex which would include Britain's biggest mosque for 19,000 worshippers."
This sounds bad. This is bad. However, when you put all these people together in one place, it might sink in, how many there are. No need to worry that we won't get a good look--I'm sure the Mohammedans will see to that, with all the publicity materials (including photos) we could want. Ego really is a weakness, let's hope it will be their weakness, and that it will not be too late for our cousins in the UK.
"which would include Britain's biggest mosque for 19,000 worshippers."
The idea of approving a mosque of that size anywhere in the Christian world is insane, and then to add a terrorist training school next to it? Utter doom for our British friends.
And next to the Olympic Village?
Gives me haunting memories of the 1972 Munich olympics. But in 1972, the Germans didn't put a terror training camp next to the village, so the terrorists had to make put in a little effort in order to murder a bunch of athletes. And that was before suicide bombing was all the rage (pun intended) in the muslim world.
"Afternoons are set aside for the national curriculum."
The most important subjects are taught in the mornings when the little devils are fresh and focused. The afternoon classes are on the bottom of the priority list. I know who won't be visiting Londonistan in 2012. Heck, the Mayans say we won't be around in that year anyway. BTW, weren't the Mayans really moslems? Maybe what they predicted for 2012 is the "islamic bomb."
It's rare to see the words, "Muslim" and "Olympics" in the same sentence (unless it's about the Munich terror murders).
Just imagine; Muslim womens' team (track, swimming, gymnastics, figure scate, etc. in full body covering and veil.
Perhaps the Muslims need their own Olympics...with events such as;
1.)Farthest catapult of suicide bomber's head after detonation.
2.) Limb chopping competition
3.) Best rage displayed after perceived insult to Islam.
Hmmm..."west HAM", "NewHAM" how can those place names not be haram?
i have the perfect solution to this problem.
vote in a patriotic, nationalistic party.
or go make them coffee and bickies and maybe hopefully they will go away?
Chutzpah? A Yiddish word to describe a Muslim characteristic?
Blasphemy, it is.
On Friday 26th of this month, Stop the Islamicisation of Europe will be holding a demonstration in London against the creeping intrusion of Sharia Law into Britain.
For further information, you can visit:
'http://sioe.wordpress.com'
Sickening.
Good Lord, I remember the images from Munich. I was 7 years old. We were on vacation when it happened. I recall very well how upset my folks were.
I personally know young people and their families who will likely be there in 2012 for the paralympic competition. I fear for them. The more I see of these things happening, the happier I am that getting to the olympics hasn't worked out for our daughter (BK amp runner). As a parent it saddens me to say that- but placing myself and my family among that sort of crowd totally unarmed goes against the vows I've taken to protect them.
I pray the English squash this idea. I pray even harder that they adopt a more sensible way of confronting the threat they face.
Absolutly consolidate any and all. England will have less mosques consequently, and God forbid, should something happen at the 2012 games, you know what's gonna hit the fan.
Jolly Old, sorry gal, you can kiss you butt goodbye.
Cheers to you Sir Iqbal Socranie and Cat Stevens (music for auto eroticism).
Years ago this poster was emailing Tony Baloney Blair: "Save England".
He had a tin ear.
Britain was once great. One of the most beloved countries has been screwed by its ruling elites and the BBC.
Pity.
Is grenade-throwing in the 2012 Olympics?
The Suicide Vest sprint?
The Taqiyya triathlon?
End, and reverse Muslim immigration.
More trouble than they're worth.
An Islamic group accused of having links to al Qaeda wants to open a school near the 2012 Olympic village.
..within easy shooting range of the Olympic Village.. I'd look for Israel to comment on that one!
One Munich is enough!
"As H.E.Y.B. Rangooni, one of TJ's most fervent British-based supporters, wrote of it in the April 1996 issue of this journal Al Islam Bartanniya: "A major aim of tabligh is to rescue the ummah [-- world community of Muslims] from the culture and civilisation of the Jews, Christians and [other enemies] of Islam and to create such hatred for their ways as humans have for urine and excreta."
[H.E.Y.B.Rangooni, Al Islam Bartanniya vol.2, no. 1, April 1996, pp.25-6; quoted in Yoginder S. Siskand (1998) op cit., p. 189.] "
For information on this disturbing organisation, see:
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pubs/tj.php
It's "black september" revisited, all over again.
Please remember, the ordinary Englishman has no political representation (all the parties represent elite views) - we don't even have the right to self defence! Rememnber that British soldiers are being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, our govt. is shocking in its apppeasement of Islam. It is a disgrace - on them, not the ordinary English people. Things are getting bad over here, no doubt I shall have to retreat to another country to fight another day. But do not give up on England . . . I still think we can fight barbaric inhumanism.
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
This is a whole verse. Again unlike you guys with the holy Quran, i have no need to take one sentence and use it out of context, i have quoted the whole story, not used one war verse, and omited other sentences from the story/instruction which say respect peace, and do to those that have done to u. I see now why the massacre, rape and plunder of Iraq ect, raises no eye brows in the Christian west
Ps, the above verse was from the bible, also u say England was great? Englands claim to greatness was invading, raping and plundering the world. So from ur own words, what u said made England great, is what u wrongly accuse muslims of doing. Soldiers are being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, well son, according to UN law armed resistance to occupation is both morally legit and legal. Tell me if England was invaded by an army, would you or i be wrong to kill the invaders, occupiers. Is dropping bombs/missiles from 40000 feet more humane than than road side bombs? lol, Britain is a target because of their support for America, invasion of Iraq and desire to once again become and colonialist/imperialistic nation
Smithy - Britain is a target because hundreds of thousands of muslims who live next door to YOU want sharia. Good luck, old son.
Smithy - I'm probably making a mistake by feeding the troll. UR probly a muslim yrslf. Burn, baby burn.
troll alert...and he can't even get his take accurately either...lol
...and the capacity for irrelevance to topic is astounding!
Yep...troll alert.
LOL
smithy-
If it's a choice between Britain's short reign of colonial expansion (several centuries, and all given up but a few small islands) and Islam's (1300 years of bloodthirsty imperialsim, rapine, carnage and a refusal to return any of their conquered zones, from Fez to Jakarta, to their original peoples), and if it is a choice between the philosophical, cultural, artistic, scientific and moral achievements of the British as opposed to those of the Mohammedans, I'll take the Brits.
O.K Smithy Dhimmi [or Moslem]just go on ignoring what is happening to Britons who 'never,never will be slaves' according to a popular ditty.
Your craven government-New Labour-was happy to
have an unofficial truce with Islamic Terrorists-
they could explode & do any atrocities as long as
this didn't happen on BRITISH SOIL. Just as Churchill wrote 'Appeasement is like feeding a crocodile in the hope it will devour you last.'
If Britain is SAVED it won't be by the so called
native 'Anglo Saxons' who are shitting themselves
with fear from Blair with his special security including an armour proofed car[found to contain four illegal immigrants],even more craven Dhimmi
C of E Rowan Willians, dipstick Charlie Windsor
and every elite Academic preaching Multiculturalism from their Ivory Towers.
No, it will be Indians[Hindus], Sikhs, and Eastern
Christian Europeans who know from bitter experience that if you're NOT PREPARED TO FIGHT
TO RETAIN YOUR COUNTRY & CULTURE YOU WILL LOSE IT
...Enjoy your future as a slave, Smithy but remember no matter how you abase yourself there is no guarantee your new Islamic Masters won't kill you.
Here in the States, we are now subject to Muslim rule by proxy. No longer can we celebrate American customs. Now we have diminished ourselves to ineptitude, by trying to make way for Sharia law. Our customs, are being squashed, in an attempt to apease new Muslims. If we do not celebrate Allah, and promote Muslim religious activities, then we can not support any religion, or activity, that offends them. I am offended! But a Christian, or any other religion, has no effect, on religious practice, other than and Islamic one.
Good article. People are waking up!
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=275871309181046
"It's now believed that several leaders of the Muslim establishment in America last decade conspired to infiltrate the U.S. political system, change Middle East policy and gradually Islamize America. At the same time, they hatched a plot to fund overseas terrorists.
Of course, they couldn't do this out in the open. So they set up benign-sounding nonprofits and charities to "camouflage" their traitorous activities, say U.S. prosecutors who cite wiretap transcripts and other documents uncovered in a criminal probe of the Holy Land Foundation, the largest Muslim charity in America.
During a secret meeting at a Philadelphia hotel, the charity's president and other prominent Muslim leaders were recorded allegedly plotting ways to disguise payments to Hamas terrorists as charity.
"I swear by Allah that war is deception," said Shukri Abu-Baker, now on trial in the federal terror-funding case. "We are fighting our enemy with a kind heart. . . . Deceive, camouflage, pretend that you're leaving while you're walking that way. Deceive your enemy."
Another participant at the Hamas summit was the founder of the Council on American Islamic-Relations, or CAIR, the largest Muslim civil-rights group in the country and an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror-funding case.
Adding to Abu-Baker's point, Omar Ahmad compared the deception needed to fool the infidels with the head fake in basketball. "He makes a player believe that he is doing this while he does something else," Ahmad said. "I agree with you. . . . Politics is a completion of war."
The Islamist head fake has worked all too well over the past decade. Blind acceptance and validation of Muslim leaders with questionable loyalties hardly missed a beat in Washington even after 9/11.
Many were invited to the White House and Congress. The head of the FBI spoke at their conferences, calling them "mainstream" and "moderate." Many naive officials still confer legitimacy on them.
But what Muslim leaders tell us and what they tell Muslim audiences are often two entirely different things. The deception is astonishing. They've really played us for suckers."
Read the rest
Has anyone else noticed a change in the tone of these reports?
A couple of years ago an article like this was written like a sales pitch, full of chirpy and self-congratulary phrases about our vibrantly diverse culture.
Today it seems more like a dire warning. Terse, factual and disturbing paragraphs with little comment. Almost as if the reporter is begging us to read between the lines; "Join the dots! Please join the dots! I can't be more explicit, it wouldn't be PC - or even safe."
It's not just the right-wing Daily Mail. There is a similar change of tone on NPR and even dear old Auntie Beeb.
I noticed the difference in MSM reporting earlier this year, right around the time that Bush and Blair started talking about the enemy being an evil ideology. It's almost like the word went out. Many posters have commented that 'people are waking up'.
To me it appears that the strategy may have changed. The powers-that-be, as their awareness has grown, have been trying to 'keep a lid' on the growing threat in order to avoid panic and/or a 'backlash'. It's as if they have now realised the futility of this effort and are hoping to educate the population slowly enough to keep control of the situation.
kate
you are dead right. for example channel 4 used to be so pc, really liberal, yet they are the only ones creating ground breaking anti jihadist documentaries.
today cnn and fox news are obsessed with britney spears, nothing about the attempted US embassy in austria avoiding a carnage.
If the British have no representation any more, then the British are living under tyranny.
If the British are living under tyranny, then the British people better get off their a**es and start raising hell.
Good luck to the folks in London.
Show some Churchillian backbone.
To kate and atheling -
For inspiration: read G K Chesterton: Napoleon of Notting Hill; also The Ball and the Cross, and The Flying Inn. Read 'The Ballad of St Barbara' and 'The Ballad of the White Horse'.
Read J R R Tolkien, in 'Return of the King', the chapter entitled, 'The Scouring of the Shire'.
Who will light the bonfires on the hilltops? Who will sound the Horn Call of Buckland - Awake! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake! Who will ring the church bells?
Who will dare, on Guy Fawkes day in Britain, to publicly burn, on every commons and in every town and village market square, along with the effigy of the Old Guy, OTHER effigies...say, Mohammed, Osama bin Laden, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
Fawkes' original plot was aimed at the seat of power. That is precisely where Islam always seeks to strike. So Guy Fawkes Day, when 'gunpowder, treason and plot' are remembered, and their defeat celebrated, is the PERFECT day for Britain to defy the modern day traitors, plotters and bombers.
dumbledoresarmy:
You know, I've never read those works by Chesterton. I've read his "Orthodoxy", "The Everlasting Man", and "What's Wrong with the World", but not his fictional or poetic works, with the exception of The Battle of Lepanto.
And yes, it's time to re-read Tolkien. I usually read him about every 2 or 3 years and it's going on 3 years now.
I might visit the films as well, though they do exhaust me!
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Labour thinktank names immigrants who are a drain on the taxpayer
By STEVE DOUGHTY - More by this author »
Labour's favourite thinktank has named the migrant groups which are a drain on the taxpayer
Labour's favourite thinktank yesterday named the migrant groups which are a drain on the taxpayer.
Immigrants from Somalia, Turkey, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Iran are most likely to be out of work and claiming state benefits, it said.
There tend to be high numbers of asylum seekers among those groups who have failed to take advantage of the opportunities offered by Britain's open economy, a study found.
But immigrants from many countries do better than people born in the UK in terms of the proportion who work, their level of earnings and the school performance of their children.
The report was produced by the Institute for Public Policy Research, which has close links to Downing Street.
The institute has always in the past been supportive of Government immigration policy and its work has focused on the benefits rather than the downside of largescale migration.
The report's results, which are based on an analysis of government figures, were produced for a Dispatches programme called Immigrants: The Inconvenient Truth. It is being broadcast on Channel 4 at 8pm this evening.
They figures show that Somalis in Britain are the worst- off migrant group. Fewer than one in five has a job and four out of five live in subsidised council or housing association homes.
The report also confirms the widespread perception that Polish-immigrants work hard for less money than most British-born workers would accept.
Australians are the only nationality in Britain more likely to have a job than the Poles.
In the hours they work Poles are second only to the notoriously workaholic Americans. However, Poles earn on average the lowest hourly wage, £7.30.
The institute report said: 'There are some immigrant communities who rank consistently lower on most indicators than the UK average.
"In some cases, these relatively lowranking communities are predominantly made up of people who have come to the UK for non-economic reasons, for example to join family members who are already in the UK or to seek asylum.
"These communities may be made up of large numbers of people whose admission into the UK is not based on their potential economic contribution to the UK."
The report added: 'Some immigrant communities are clearly faring less well in the UK and are unable to contribute as much as others because of the poor socio-economic situations they find themselves in.
"Many in these groups are present in the UK because they are fleeing persecution and violence in their home countries and require our protection."
The institute's latest findings come in the wake of Whitehall's revision of the expected levels of future immigration to almost two million in the next decade and the declaration by a Home Office minister of 'the need for swift and sweeping changes to the immigration system'.
Gordon Brown has spoken of 'British jobs for British workers' and is bringing in a points-based immigration system, which will give priority to those with education, skills and high earnings.
The institute report said almost all migrant groups have children who spend longer in the education system than the children of British-born parents.
But some migrant groups have failed to turn educational success into economic success. Groups whose children have not done well in school include Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Turks and Somalis.
Indian, Chinese, Filipino, Sri Lankan and Iranian children all do better than average in school, the report said.
State statistics over the past 15 years have identified recent migrant groups who have done best in economic and education terms.
Generally speaking, Asians who came from East Africa in the 1970s and Chinese are counted the most successful, followed by Indians.
Some groups do better than others. For example, black Caribbean girls do well in school and earn more on average than white counterparts, while black Caribbean boys are more likely to fail.
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Isn't it time that western countries educate their own people needed for skilled jobs? Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run?
Borg:
The West needs to have a population to work. If they don't have children, they don't have enough workers.
Please remember, the ordinary Englishman has no political representation (all the parties represent elite views) - we don't even have the right to self defence! Rememnber that British soldiers are being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: CosmicPatriot at October 1, 2007 6:22 PM
If it maks you feel any better, Bush has made Saudi Arabia that executed 9/11 and Pakistan, that beheaded Daniel Pearl, allies against terorr, and supplied arms to Pakistan, increasing student's cisas for Saudi Arabia. Feel better?
Hmmm. I'm fairly certain that the S.A government was not behind 9/11 and that the guy that did pull it off has declared war on them.
As for Pakistan...I'm pretty sure that the government of Pakistan did not execute Daniel Pearl. I'm pretty sure that some terrorist admitted to, hell, bragged about doing it.
And I don't believe that the President of the United States has been given any dictatorial powers to OK visas for anyone. We have this thing called a government that has to approve his moves.
A female Tory Muslim (a rare beast) at her party's annual conference (possibly their last before the next election) has stirred things up a little here by daring to say that BNP voters had "some very legitimate views on race and crime".
She said: "They have some very legitimate views - people who say, 'We are concerned about crime and justice in our communities, we are concerned about immigration in our communities.'"
Labour minister Phil Woolas warned: "You have to acknowledge the fears that people have that make them vote for the BNP. But effectively to endorse the BNP's views is shocking."
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/conservatives/story/0,,2180763,00.html
Run that by me again!
It's shocking to be concerned about high levels of immigration and crime.
This is the kind of la-la land we are living in, where what would once upon a time have been basic common sense is now "shocking".
This is the result of several decades of cultural Marxism and it'll take a few years to purge ourselves of it. The only worry is that we'll be way too Islamified by the time we try to do anything about it.
Did I miss something? I thought the plans to build the mega mosque in London had been squashed.
So Smitty, the Muslims thinks Christians are mass murderers and terrorists.....
"Our first clue that this probably isn't true is the scarcity of Christian terrorist groups. Not too many people are losing their heads to fanatics screaming praises to Jesus (or Moses, Buddha or the many Hindu gods either) as they are to shouts of ?Allah Akbar!? That there are so many Islamic terrorist groups composed of fundamentalists (or purists) of the Muslim faith is enough to impress any reasonable person that there is something far more dangerous about Islam."
atheling-
I've been saying all along that people need to have more children. Four children. Not two or one or none.
I've been pooh-poohed each time I've posted it. Several magazines and TV commentators have said it and each time some professor comes along and says there are too many people and we're damaging the earth. Well, which is it?
Regardless of how large or small our population is, we NEED to educate our own. It is in our countries, all countries, interest to educate their own. Just look at the doctors in Glasgow.
The third world countries are using modern technology so that all of their children usually survive. That is why Pakistan's and Gaza's populations are exploding. (No pun intended) So they are exporting their excesses. With modern technology comes modern responsibility, except for them. The dogooders just can't seem to see it.
Stop muslim immigration. Let them deal with their own population overgrowth.
Our governments don't want our countries to shrink. Population is power. Our governments need to beat the population drum in a positive way. Not like Causeceu of course, but I think he was aware of the importance of demographics and was trying to force an instant change. All I ever heard in school was how our earth was in danger, don't have kids, we're killing the planet, blah, blah, blah. I heard it again just a few months ago.
Muslims live in shit holes, and grinding poverty, but they still want twenty kids. Come to the west and we'll support your kids! That needs to stop. NOW.
Britain, change your 'support for immigrants' laws and see how quick the inflow of muslims stops!!!!
...virtually all Muslim dominated lands are now deserts...the Muslims never practiced land management or reforestration or irrigation to any high levels...they have destroyed every land they take over....they live in squalid conditions because they will not let bright people try anything new....they keep the people under the thumb of the Qur'an and the crazed , bearded , fingerpointing Islamic clerics who always know what to do.....they have a bad track record.....and it is getting worse...Ban Muslim Immigration....
Smithy old man---the verses you quote from Ezekiel are part of an open VISION that Ezekiel received from the Spirit of the Lord while he was sitting in captivity in Babylon (Iraq). You portray this as actually happening when in fact it was a vision that Ezekiel received revealing to him God's displeasure at the Idol worship going on in Jerusalem at that time.
Ezekiel was called to the prophetic ministry in 593 B.C. During the first part of his ministry, Ezekiel proclaimed essentially the same message given by the prophet Jeremiah---Jerusalem is doomed to destruction. The sinfullness and idolatry prevailing in Jerusalem will result in God's abandoning the temple, as well as Jerusalem---with judgement to follow.
After the news reached Babalon that Jerusalem actually had been destroyed in 586 B.C., Ezekiel proclaimed a new message of hope and restoration. God as the great Shepherd will regather the Israelites from the ends of the earth and reestablish them in their own land. (Which He has done). The nations that will challenge Israel's return will be defeated and judged.
It was the Arab hoards some 2000 years before Mohammad that destroyed Jerusalem because God's hand of protection had been removed because of idol worship. Ezekiel saw all this in a vision from the lord.
Please feel free to read in Ezekiel chapters 36-48, especially chapter 36, as this is God's 'position paper' on nation Israel.
I should have said about 1300 years instead of 2000 years.
On John Hagee's national program today, Newt Gingrich was razor sharp in perspective on nation Israel and the current "condition" in Washington today. He was speaking at the Christians United For Israel banquet in D.C. this last July just before thousands of banquet attendees went forth and spoke to every Senator and Rep. in D.C. that would see them.
watling
i also read that, she must be a "crypto-fascist", oh wait a minute, her name is Sayeeda Warsi, she is from the indian subcontinent and now is a tory MP.
now can everyone please stop labelling us as "neo-fascists" "crypto-nazis" and far right bigots.
Smithy old man---the verses you quote from Ezekiel are part of an open VISION that Ezekiel received from the Spirit of the Lord while he was sitting in captivity in Babylon (Iraq). You portray this as actually happening when in fact it was a vision that Ezekiel received revealing to him God's displeasure at the Idol worship going on in Jerusalem at that time. "
Posted by: guide inside"
......HA...this is true....it would seem Smithy often listens to crazed bearded finger pointing Islamic clerics instead of actually reading anything....this is a major Muslim malfunction....it happens often...
Damn guys...
I can't believe you're still feeding the troll...lol
Just repeating what I said above - I'm totally serious when I suggest that on Guy Fawkes Day - 'please to remember the fifth of November/ gunpowder, treason and plot/ there is no reason/ why gunpowder treason/ should ever be forgot' - those in Britain who are concerned about the threat of Islam should not make great big bonfires and burn turbanned effigies of Mohammed or Bin Laden or Ahmadinejad right alongside, or in place of, the usual Guy.
Make sure that the gathering includes non-white non-Muslims such as Hindu and Sikh immigrant families, or Afro-Caribbean Christians, and Jewish families if there are such in your neighbourhood.
After the burning, have somebody cool, calm and collected quietly reading a couple of relevant texts - e.g. the inflammatory stuff from Maududi or Qutb about how Muslims are supposed to flout Infidel law and how all Infidel sovereignties are illegitimate and must be overthrown by Muslims by any and all means necessary. Oh, and you could finish off with a final act of defiance: singing God Save the Queen and drinking the Royal Toast. Video the whole thing and post on the Web (if people were worried about their safety the film needn't show faces).
oops - typo in the above - in place of 'should not make great big bonfires', read 'SHOULD make great big bonfires'...