"Islamic nation of resistance and jihad (holy war) in the Maghreb, see how your children are uniting under the banner of Islam and jihad against the United States, France and Spain." But of course this kind of appeal has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, and if you suggest that its Islamic component needs to be investigated, instead of ignored and denied, and that peaceful Muslims need to counter this appeal on Islamic grounds if they can, well then! You must be some kind of Islamophobe!
From AFP (thanks to all who sent this in):
DUBAI (AFP) — Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri called for a holy war against North African leaders and their French, Spanish and US allies in an audiotape message Saturday in which he announced a new Libyan arm of the militant network.In the message released on the internet, he also called on members of Mahmud Abbas's Fatah movement to overthrow the Palestinian president, saying he had turned the movement into an "annex of the CIA".
He urged militants to target US, French and Spanish interests in North African countries in the recording, the authenticity of which could not immediately be verified.
"Islamic nation of resistance and jihad (holy war) in the Maghreb, see how your children are uniting under the banner of Islam and jihad against the United States, France and Spain," Zawahiri said.
He also called for the overthrow of the leaders of Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco over their support for Washington's so-called war on terror.
"Support... your children in fighting our enemies and cleansing our lands of their slaves (Moamer) Kadhafi, Zine El Abidine (Ben Ali), (President Abdelaziz) Bouteflika and (King) Mohammed VI," he said.
Zawahiri, the Egyptian lieutenant of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, also focused on Palestinian leader Abbas as the Fatah leader prepares for a US-sponsored international peace meeting on the Middle East next month.
"I call on those among the members of Fatah and the (Fatah-linked armed) Al-Aqsa Brigades who still have a little dignity to fight their leadership which has tranformed their movement into an annex of the CIA and a division of Mossad," Zawahiri said in the tape.
He said Fatah members should "return to their religion and rally to the support of their brothers, the mujahedeen (fighters), in Palestine and elsewhere in the Muslim world."
Zawahiri called on "nationalist and lay Arabs" to "repent and embrace Islam" because Arab leaders "like Moamer Kadhafi and Mahmud Abbas have sold you to the United States and Israel."
In the same audiotape, Zawahiri said that a Libyan Islamist group had joined the network, the second in north Africa after Algeria's Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat.
"The esteemed leaders of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group have announced their allegiance to the Al-Qaeda network," he said.
The group was formed in the early 1990s in Afghanistan by Libyan militants fighting the Soviet Union occupation. It's stated goal is the overthrow of Kadhafi's regime and its replacement with a radical Islamic state.
...sounds like the rantings of a mad man living deep within a cave....but it does prove you do not want people like this in your neighborhood...Ban Muslim Immigration...
"Support... your children in fighting our enemies and cleansing our lands of their slaves (Moamer) Kadhafi, Zine El Abidine (Ben Ali), (President Abdelaziz) Bouteflika and (King) Mohammed VI," [Zawahiri] said.
Imagine the reaction from not just the Muslim world, but the entire globe, if such words had been uttered by George W. Bush or Tony Blair after the attacks in each country.
It could be argued that Zawahiri is not the leader of a nation, but he professes to speak for Muslims and "peaceful" Muslims refuse to denounce or disown him. They make no effort to bring him to justice. At this very moment, they shield him. The onus is on Muslims in each and every one of the countries he refers to. Take a stand.
This is not related to the posting, but I found it funny to share ...
Mahdi found alive! And he lives in Australia! And already killing pigs ...
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/giant-feral-pig.html
I wonder if these guys ever wake up from a night's sleep and think "you know, I'm sick of being p*ssed, and I'm tired of killing infidels"?
I'm sure sick of them.
Well one thing we know for sure, any state that has adopted Islamic Law is a failed state in the modern world. Zawahiri has no qualms about sending the children of Muslims off to die for a barbaric, intolerent, and backword concept of religion and statehood.
Zawahiri's listing of the "slaves" of the "enemies" of Islam is interesting. Even though it includes Khadafi of Libya (for voluntarily giving up nuclear ambitions?), it does not include leaders of countries typically considered to be allies in the war on terror. Could it be that he and bin Laden are happy with the way countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are being run? Al Quaeda continues to get financial support from Saudi oil wealth, and continues to find sanctuary in the northwestern provinces of Pakistan despite multi-million dollar awards advertised for its leadership.
The leaders of these countries could not provide enlightened leadership even if they tried, because the culture of the people they seek to govern is so imbued with jihadist values.
On the one hand, we would be naive to see democracy as a panacea in any of the Islamic countries. On the other hand, because any Islamic strong-man such as a Musharraf (now ruling under emergency decree) will draw his strength by swimming with the cultural current prevailing in his nation, we cannot rely on such a leader to protect our interests and the interests of world peace.
In short, we cannot trust leaders such as Pervez Musharraf to be faithful allies in the war on terror, but we also cannot expect a democratic process to bring better leaders to the fore. In dealing with countries such as Pakistan, we need to muddle through, working with its leaders to the extent it is in our interest, but without fully trusting such leaders to be anything but two-faced in their allegiance.
The only reliable counterweight to the Islamic resurgence must therefore be found in the western alliance, which is why we need to strengthen that alliance and prevent creeping Sharia and political correctness (such as an unwillingness to analyze and question Islamic core teachings) from hobbling the western nations.
We also need some good leadership in the west. Hopefully that leadership will materialize soon. I think Romney shows promise in that regard.
It's not easy for me to understand how a country like Egypt, where I spent a lot of time, could produce someone like al-Zawahiri. Then again, few things about people like him make any sense at all.
*sigh* I'm gonna have a drink. Anyone interested?
(that's a non-alcoholic drink for me, though you can have whatever you want)
In the Maghreb, which in Arab terms should include all of North Africa (save Egypt, a special case), but perhaps is best limited for the purposes of discussion to those may be limited to those countries with a former French influence -- Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia -- there is, in at least the first two, large Berber populations. In Morocco the Berbers outnumber those who call themselves "Arabs" -- many of whom are simply Berbers who have been thoroughly arabized. In Algeria they are concentrated in the Kabyle region. They have been discriminated against, persecuted, by the Arabs -- as they were not under the French, who sensed, correctly, that the Berbers, the original inhabitants of the area, because of their ethnic identification possessed an identity that did not reinforce Islam but worked against it. One French general (even wrote a book, in the early 1950s, about the clear cultural superiority, the Europeanness, of the Berbers (when I find my copy I will quote from it here).
An intelligent policy, jointly Franco-American, would work to demonstrate, to the Berbers above all, that Islam is, and has always been, a vehicle of Arab imperiallism. It is indeed the most successful and longest-running imperialism in human history, for it manages to convince many of those it conquers that they have no history or identity outside of Islam, and inside Islam, it is Arabs, and the Arabic language, and Arab culture, that must prevail.
When the French left Algeria, the position of the Berbers steadily worsened. They were forbidden even to speak their own language, the Berber language, Tamazight. Eventually, they began to riot -- riots in Tizi-Ouzou and elsewhere that were reported only in France, never in the world press. Few seemed interested then, few seem interested now, in the persecution and humiliation of the Berbers. A few years ago, the Algerian government did repeal that law, and the Berbers are no longer to be prosecuted merely for speaking the Berber language. But as always -- as in the Sudan with the black African Muslims in Darfur, and as in Iraq with the Kurds, as everywhere that both Arab and non-Arab Muslims come together -- the Arabs continue to dominate and, as by right, to treat the non-Arab Muslims with contumely and worse.
It would be good if the theme of Islam as a vehicle for Arab imperialism were to be focussed on, emphasized, repeated endlessly. It will do more than possibly any other argument that can be presented, to weaken the hold of Islam on the 80% of the world's Muslims that are not Arabs, and some of whose most advanced representatives now see Islam for what it is. And besides, the argument happens to be true.
It may also have effects in France. There, if the French could count on the loyalty of some Berbers, who at present make up almost entirely the membership of such groups as the "Maghrebins laiques," this population -- already more susceptible to the appeal of Christianity because of that felt resentment toward Arab supremacism contained within Islam -- could help to monitor, and contain, the Arab Muslims.
But all this requires, on the part of Infidels, their recognition of, and willingness to discuss, to make what can be called propaganda (based on the truth, not falsehood), the nature of Islam as this vehicle for Arab supremacism.
And then there is the famously mercurial Khaddafy. He sometimes says things that reveal someone fed up with what he calls "the Arabs." He is certainly more interested in his very own path, whether expressed as bizarrely as he has done so in the past, with his Green Book and Jamhariyya and all the rest of it -- than he is in the Arab League line, for he sees the Arab League merely as a handmaiden of the Egyptian government, a government he despises. Suppose Khaddafy could be made to see himself, as he sometimes does, as a Son of the Desert, but a Berber Son of the Tripolitanian Desert rather than an Arab one? And suppose he and his more advanced sons, especially the one who lived for a time in Perugia -- were to see the point of emphasizing this "Berberness" in opposition to the "Islam of the Arabs."
In any case, this is the kind of thing about which those who make policy in the Pentagon and the State Department and the White House, and their analogues in London, Paris, Rome, and Berlin -- ought to be thinkiing about. Are they? If so, could they please give us the slightest sign?
It would make us all feel much better.
RoobartSbunsar
Wherever there are Muslims, people like Zawahiri will arise, specially if the Muslims feel like they have been "deceived".
One of the strongest apeal murderers like Zawahiri have is that they give a purpose for western (and eastern) Muslims who look around and all they see is that the islamic way of life is a joke. Better yet, they see that the islamic "civilization" has lost the train, but, instead looking for guilty people within they assume that someone else did that to them.
Oh, and they believe that by returning to "pure Islam", Muslims will better off. What they don't realize is that the reason why they are in such deep social problems is because of Islam.
Islam has failed on Muslims, but they can't accept it. It's better to point the finger elsewhere rather than accepting the failure of Muhammad's system of life.
Again?
Al-Qaeda: The Next Goal Is to Liberate Spain from the Infidels
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/11/al-qaeda-the-next-goal-is-to-liberate-spain-from-the-infidels/
Algeria? Haven't Islamic Fascists been terrorizing the people of that country for years?Isn't that the place where the term "Islamic Fascist" was born?At last count over 100,000 had been killed in the name of Islam. Since the French left Algeria and Islam has been on the march, the country has been turned into a sewer with many inhabitants desperate to immigrate to France. Just another example of the "fruit of Islam".
Yes, let the Muslims flood into Eurabia. Let them bring in their "culture" and "religion" and let's all live in this melting pot of multiculturalism. See how wonderful it worked out in Yoguslavia.
"An intelligent policy, jointly Franco-American, would work to demonstrate, to the Berbers above all, that Islam is, and has always been, a vehicle of Arab imperiallism. It is indeed the most successful and longest-running imperialism in human history, for it manages to convince many of those it conquers that they have no history or identity outside of Islam, and inside Islam, it is Arabs, and the Arabic language, and Arab culture, that must prevail."
I fear, though, that the Berbers would get slaughtered en masse should they attempt to discard the yoke of Islam. Franco-American assistance would have to be formidable indeed.
Zawahiri called on "nationalist and lay Arabs" to "repent and embrace Islam"
....gotta say PLEASE first!
More of their "repent OR ELSE" bullying BS; and I'm really stuck on him not saying please first. Where are his manners? ....sheesh
"...Islam and jihad against the United States, France and Spain."
Karl2 wrote:
>Even though it includes Khadafi of Libya (for >voluntarily giving up nuclear ambitions?)
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Wasn't Al Qaeda going to leave Spain alone after the election of a Dhimmi president and Spain's withdrawal from Iraq? I guess Zawahiri is angry that the Madrid bombers were convicted and sent to jail for 40 years (not even life).
Khadafi gave up the bombing of passenger jets over Scotland; I guess that makes him a slave of the war on terror, according to Zawahiri.
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CT yank
In dealing with countries such as Pakistan, we need to muddle through, working with its leaders to the extent it is in our interest, but without fully trusting such leaders to be anything but two-faced in their allegiance.
by Karl2
If this is our policy we had better be prepared to answer the charge that the US "supports" or "works with" dictators.
We face that issue with just about every country we work with whose leaders aren't pure as the driven snow. Musharraf will eventually fall and it will be 1979 all over again - the same script as in Iran, with a few slight modifications.