DC Imam wants to establish an "Islamic State of North America no later than 2050"

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This man wants to be your Caliph

Jihad Watch readers may recall Imam Musa, the Washington, DC, imam who supports jihad terror and Islamic supremacism, and whose MySpace page was allegedly hacked (in the fevered minds of his supporters) by none other than Daniel Pipes and me.

Anyway, Marked Manner has noted that Imam Musa's organization, As-Sabiqun, is working to establish an Islamic State of North America by 2050:

As-Sabiqun is an Islamic movement that believes in the Islamic State of North America no later than 2050. Those who engage in this great effort require a high level of commitment and determination. We are sending out a call to the believers: Join with us in this great struggle to change the world!

"Those who engage in this great effort" should be under close scrutiny by those who have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, but they probably aren't. Why should they be? After all, Islam is a religion of peace!

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Eventually my proposed altering of the First Amendment will be taken seriously. Islam is a threat to the Constitution itself and therefore should not be protected by any "Freedom of Religion" as put forth by the Founding Fathers. In fact, most of the Americans in Congress two hundred years ago were far more aware of the cult of Islam and its tragic effects on the world than all of our U.S. government combined today seems to be -- or are we just supposed to hope that we are being kept blind and dumb for our own good and suddenly Congress shall rise up and oust the villains from our shores?

This is a sad state of affairs when the greatest nation on Earth cannot even produce one leader that has the capacity and the courage to stand up and denounce Islam for what it is and demand Senate hearings to review the "Religion of Peace" before a national audience. We must wake up one Christmas morning to news stories of shootings or far worse in order to shake our self-serving politicians into action?

The green clenched fist (on this beast's website) says it all.

I have to disagree with Foehammer about needing to amend the First Amendment. Constitutional amendments are difficult to adopt, and an amendment to the Bill of Rights would be met with a firestorm of opposition and would not necessarily be the best solution anyway.

What we really need is to amend our statutes so that it is possible to treat Islam no differently than any other political movement out to destroy our nation. In other words, we need to be able to "discriminate." (To be able to "discriminate" actually means to be able to tell the difference.)

We need the jihadists to lose their rights, we do not want to lose ours as well.

So if they don't get there by 2050, will they pack up and go home?

Pretty please?

Of course he's comical. Of course he's marginal. Of course he hasn't really studied Islam. But the point is: there are many marginal -- psychically or economically marginal -- people. And they are not always, in the end, if they become numerous and powerful enough, comical at all. Chaplin always regretted merely depicting Hitler as a clown in "The Great Dictator" -- his clownishness, self-evident to the unmesmerized, should not have hidden his menace and power.


When people "revert" to Islam, they are joining The Group. They want to join The Group, the Group that tells them exactly what to do, and justifies whatever bad things they happen to do when those bad things, as we define them, are done to Infidels. They acquire a special new Arabic name -- what fun, for some, composing it, and either adopting it for everyday use, or keeping it in special reserve for use with other Muslims only --for examples, see Stephen Schwartz (Solomon al-Kosovi to fellow Muslims) or Tim Winter, the Cambridge academic who, in the TLS, always uses plain "Tim Winter" but for other audiences, throws off the mask and uses his Muslim name). And then there are all those special practically secret (known only to a billion other people, but who's paying attention to that) Arabic words you can use, including those "salaam aleikums" and "aleikum salaamns" and so on, but given only to fellow Muslims, fellow members of the Special Brotherhood (not to be confused with the sentimental bomfoggery of those Christians who take far too literally, to their own harm, the notion that "all men are brothers" (no matter what some of those brothers may do to them).

Don't laugh too much at the clownishness of some. The demographics in Western Europe, if present trends, now unopposed, continue, are in his favor. Don't laugh, or you may die, laughing.

OT

Why wont Hollywood tell the truth about islam ?

One after another of crap films about how it is our fault and not the islamists - and with lots of money productions and with box office draw film actors - and these stupid films are bombing, but fortunately only blowing themselves and their investors up.The public are tired of this hate America nonsense. And the next time one hears a conspiracy theorist, why does one want to rip their throat out ?

What's wrong with these idiots ?

Apart from "The Road to 9/11" and a few other productions, it's mostly crap.

More heroes please, fewer metrosexuals.

In other words, we need to be able to tell the difference between a friend and a foe, between a church organization dedicated to improving and enhancing our society and physical and spiritual quality of life and a political organization dedicated to destroying our society and our physical and spiritual quality of life. Our anti-discrimination laws have the unintended consequence of blinding ourselves, and the jihadists are using this fact. Blind adherence to anti-discrimination no matter what the consequence is the key way in which they and the leftists are in agreement.

"This is what happens when you have a Ken doll for president." I think I heard Tammy Bruce say that on Fox a while back. I may be wrong, but I think it all comes back to George in the end.

An Islamic state? Doesn't he mean fifty Islamic states?

He is a foreign born jihad supporter, why wasn't he deported yesterday?

Greetings:

Re; dgene's Hollywood movie inquiry

Moral Superiority is the Cocaine of the 21st Century.

Islamic state of North America....not a bad idea. Maybe the Canadians could let them set it up in Baffin Island, or if that is too large, Prince of Wales Island.

This man wants to be your Caliph - JW

That clown can go to hell, and stay there.

What we really need is to amend our statutes so that it is possible to treat Islam no differently than any other political movement out to destroy our nation. In other words, we need to be able to "discriminate." (To be able to "discriminate" actually means to be able to tell the difference.) We need the jihadists to lose their rights, we do not want to lose ours as well.
… and later: In other words, we need to be able to tell the difference between a friend and a foe, between a church organization dedicated to improving and enhancing our society and physical and spiritual quality of life and a political organization dedicated to destroying our society and our physical and spiritual quality of life. Our anti-discrimination laws have the unintended consequence of blinding ourselves, and the jihadists are using this fact. Blind adherence to anti-discrimination no matter what the consequence is the key way in which they and the leftists are in agreement. Posted by: Karl2

Total agreement with this assessment. We need to stop ‘discriminating’ as blind ‘anti-discrimination’ and begin to tell the difference between religion and a power group whose aim is to overthrow our US Constitution with their Arab supremacist Sharia law. They want to overthrow our freedoms with their ‘slavery’ ideology which is political first.

I believe we can already use all our anti-sedition and subversiveness laws to stop this jihad Sharia menace to our country’s freedoms. WE THE PEOPLE is a powerful contract for our freedoms, and every American knows this in his or her heart, that we will not submit to become a nation of slaves. Freedom, social agreement, rule of law, constitutional separation of ‘church and state’, checks and balances, is all part and parcel of who we are as a people. Europe may have more difficulty, since the Sharia jihad invasion is more advanced there. France already has some 700 ‘no go’ Islamic areas, and their population is only 10% Moslems. Lebanon at the beginning of last century was only 10% Islamic, and now the Moslems there, after many bloody internal wars, are over 60%. Is France paying attention? Are we? Throw this political subversive Sharia out of the country, now!

Foehammer,

You're absolutely correct. Right now we can do something about it, but, given this government's willful ignorance and neglect of the Islamic threat to our nation, we'll reach a point of no return, where we won't be able to do anything without fighting a major insurgency in our cities. Americans won't be able to visit a mall, or ride public transportation, without fear staking them all the way.

I'm all for your first amendment changes, but I doubt they'll ever go through, or that they're even necessary. An act of Congress should be all that is necessary.

But no one should expect our leaders to do anything on their own. Muslims represent a voting block, small though it is, in this country, and that will always be the primary concern of politicians. They'll throw us all overboard for those few votes.

It will require a major insurrection by the American public to force the politicians to do what is necessary to protect this country from the Islamic threat.

What is it about this cult that makes everyone want to become an Arab?

You know what they say: If it looks like a Caliph and smells like a Caliph....

Factual Error Alert: This creature was born in Araknsas! We can't deport him, but he can be tried for sedition.

Arkansas is known for producing great leaders.

I believe Abu Bakr Ba'shir puts the situation in the easiest to understand light for us Kuffar: "The path taken by many political parties in their effort to establish an Islamic regime is not the right path, because these parties adopt democracy. Democracy is not an Islamic means. Democracy runs counter to Islam, because it emphasizes the sovereignty of the people, whereas Islam emphasizes the sovereignty of Allah. Thus, if we are to submit to the law of Allah, Muslims have no choice but to say: 'We hear and obey.' In democracy, Allah's commands may be open to discussion, and if we agree with them, we accept them, but if we do not agree with them, we reject them. Herein lies the flaw. Therefore, as long as the Islamic political parties endeavor to adhere to Islam by means of democracy, they will not achieve their goal

"It is a duty… We are duty-bound to establish an Islamic state, and the Muslims are duty-bound to live in an Islamic country. Muslims are forbidden to live in an infidel country. Sheik Fawzan Al-Fawzan issued a fatwa forbidding Muslims to live in the countries of the infidels. That is why we are committed to establishing an Islamic state. The path that the Prophet Muhammad bid us to take is the path of preaching and Jihad. Waging Jihad is the proper conduct. That is why it is essential to establish an Islamic state by means of preaching and Jihad. We have tried to do this in Indonesia, by committing ourselves to Islamic preaching."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition


Islam by its very existence us sedition. Mr. Bakr Ba’shir understand the Koran well, and bases his assessment on his perfect understanding of the Islamic imperative. We would do well to listen to him, and heed his words.

I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin.
I see bad times today.

Chorus:
Dont go around tonight,
Well, its bound to take your life,
Theres a bad moon on the rise.

I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

Chorus
All right!

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like were in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.


Hmm....

Seems that John Fogerty was a better prophet than .. certain others.

Iman Musa - I like our country the way it is.

There are already too many "Islamic" states in the world, but I'm sure that one of them will allow you to immigrate to it.

Think of it! Sharia law is already imposed. Women are property. You can own slaves. Dhimmis have been subdued (or killed). Everybody knows (or is afraid to admit otherwise) that the Qur'an is the perfect book. All the other books are burned. Imagination is dead. Women are "dressed" in cloth Hefty bags.

This is as close to Paradise that a Muslim can get! Why live in the decadent West? Get yourself back to your posse! You'll feel so much better.

Frankly, so will we.

What is it about this cult that makes everyone want to become an Arab?

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at November 9, 2007 12:17 PM

It appeals to depraved minds. You can steal, kill, rape, lie and feel great about it because a
"holy" book commands it and its god approves of it. Only those with some morals seem immune to the temptation to indulge in such behavior that has a "divine" seal of approval.

The Imam started this movement way back in 1995, to me he is just like another Moslem spokesperson I remember ( Baghdad Bob )

"Their infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected."

"By God, I think this is rather very unlikely. This is merely a prattle. The fact is that as soon as they reach Baghdad gates, we will besiege them and slaughter them....Wherever they go they will find themselves encircled."

Factual Error Alert: This creature was born in Araknsas! We can't deport him, but he can be tried for sedition.

Arkansas is known for producing great leaders.

Posted by: Pelayo at November 9, 2007 12:21 PM

Better yet, exile him to a desert island, along with other jihadists and their infidel lapdogs.

Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

We were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Helter skelter in a summer swelter.
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
It landed foul on the grass.
The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devils only friend.

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satans spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store
Where Id heard the music years before,
But the man there said the music wouldnt play.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died.

And they were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

They were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.

Nothing will change in regards to how we treat fanatics like Musa until a lot more Americans die.

The thing is there needs to be a degree political consensus and public demand for any change in laws dealing with these monsters and the only way that will come about in our sleepwalking society is through death and destruction.

Foehammer contends we need a constitutional amendment to stop Islam from ruining America (which it would surely do as it has ruined, or kept in ruin, every other society where it has become dominant----after all, a vibrant Muslim nation is an oxymoron)while Karl2 maintains such constitutional alteration is difficult to accomplish and unnecessary because all we need do is amend numerous statutes to accomplish the same. I'm completely with Foehammer here for two reasons. First, political movements out to overturn America are legal in this country as long as members of them don't act upon certain of the movement's beliefs. For instance, Marxism seeks the overthrow of the American government and our democratic stystem, but the Communist Party is perfectly legal here and always has been, even during the height of the Cold War. Second, even were statutes altered to illegalize Islam, state and federal judges across this nation would declare such statutes unconstitutional, inopperative and void because violative of the First Amendment. The only way to get around all this is to have a new amendment to the Constitution specifically making Islam unlawful in this country. Will it be difficult to achieve this? You bet it will. But it is the only sure way to stop the world's dreariest, stupidest, most intolerant and most destructive religion in the history of man from transforming America for the worst, possibly forever.

Short of a constitutional amendment, we will have to deal with Islam as we have dealt with other systems of thought which seek the end of the United States as we know it. To wit, by education of the inimical aspects of Islam, by effectively ridiculing Mohammed's creed, by counting on the good sense of the American people to eventually see that Islam is as much of a totalitarian ideology as is Nazism and Marxism and should be despised, by counting on at least some Muslims to leave their wretched religion and openly denounce it (in short, many Whittaker Chambers types) and by possibly limiting immigration from Muslim nations on other pretexts. This approach could work but it is more problematical. AS I just averred above, the only certain way to stop Islam from rotting America is to go with Foehammer's suggestion of the necessity and efficacy of a constitutional amendment amending the First Amendment for purposes of disallowing the existence of Islam in this country.

Robert said

whose MySpace page was allegedly hacked ... by none other than Daniel Pipes and me.

DuDe U gOt wArEz? i nEeD sUm CrAcKz

If this is not an open enemy to this nation and the Constitution and one that should be immediately eliminated with extreme prejudice, then every single elected official should resign or be forced from office this afternoon.

Is ANYBODY home????

Somebody, please post the address of this subversive, seditious, traitorous enemy. Where is his mosque? Where does he live? What kind of car does he drive?

This HAS TO STOP!!!!!!

Karl2 may be on to something: "What we really need is to amend our statutes so that it is possible to treat Islam no differently than any other political movement out to destroy our nation."

I just want to add one word to his statement and that's "criminal"..."any other CRIMINAL political movement..."

Where Islam is -- murder and mayhem follow.

the obvious mathematical shortcomings of Imam Musa, amongst many others shortcomings, makes his desired result on the schedule he has proposed, laughable.

While the US is currently enjoying a slightly better than replacement fertility rate, the fertility rate amongst Muslims is bound to be much higher. So, there numbers will increase steadily due to this and via the back-door polygamy which I am all but assured already exists.

Couple those realities with unchecked, unregulated immigration and the numbers will only get worse in our favor. Doable by 2050? No, at least not unless there is a national Kool--aid event that compels the masses to give up everything and get on line to be a slave to Allah.

If this is not an open enemy to this nation and the Constitution and one that should be immediately eliminated with extreme prejudice, then every single elected official should resign or be forced from office this afternoon.

Is ANYBODY home????

Somebody, please post the address of this subversive, seditious, traitorous enemy. Where is his mosque? Where does he live? What kind of car does he drive?

This HAS TO STOP!!!!!!

Reference page in the event that Sabiqun.net decides to change it:
http://www.freezepage.com/1194630830XDUAPWHIAK

Oh great, he is a convicted felon and was a career drug trafficker until he embraced "traditional" Islam in prison.

He praises Khomeini's and Qutb's writings and ideas, donated to Hamas and does not consider them a terrorist organization, and yes folks....he is also a 9/11 truther.

He's a perfect candidate for the next Islamic Caliphate.

...Musa is just a whitey hating, anti-establishment moron looking for any excuse not to get a real job or a real life....He Found Islam....

Ban Muslim Immigration....and exile fools like this to some sand in the desert Muslim country....he may be surprised to learn real Muslims do not like blacks at all....

Ban Muslim Immigration...

Trouble is people will look at this kook and not take him seriously. He has no political power, they will say, and he has no weapons. So he is seen as just another Jesse Jackson or Al Sharptongue, troublemakers all, parasites at best, but never a threat because we are so much bigger than that, are we not?

But that is not how this war is fought. As we can see from the lyrically waxed would-be martyr in the UK the message works: although Abu Hamza 'the Hook' is in jail for quite some time she got his messages from DVD's and video tapes, much like the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran. And if the Islamists manage to brainwash 1000 homicide bombers they can wreck a lot of havoc, with small money, low tech weaponry and fanatical determination. And who doubts that is exactly what they intend to do.
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/11/09/dont-panic-fbi-al-qaeda-may-strike-us-shopping-malls-in-la-chicago/

Then, what will the politicians do?
Address their perceived 'grievances' and give them autonomy, for a place heavily infested with Muhammedans is a 'no-go zone' anyway, but it doesn't prevent them from claiming all the benefits that Muhammedans claim wherever they are in the West, because they are 'discriminated' against, and they are 'oppressed because of their religion' etc.etc. and so on and so on...

Unfortunately, these As-Sabiqun jokers are probably deadly serious and probably have plenty of backing from mosques across the Middle East, the USA, and Europe. I see the makings of an Chechnya-Russia standoff in the makings on American soil if we are not careful.


As much as we all of us would love to give these guys an Islamic North American homeland nine hundred miles off the coast of Oregon with the white pointer sharks forty fathoms below the surface of the Pacific, this problem is unlikely to go away that easily (this isn't the only group demanding an Islamic 'homeland' in North America). There's probably mosques that are plotting to instigate a bloody civil war against the American people to take land from the United States for this Islamic 'homeland' as I write this. And the US public may be anesthetized at this point to do much about except give in.


Maybe what the American people should consider doing is prosecuting the United States government (possibly in the form of a class action lawsuit) for permitting Islam to be permitted on US soil. Islam clearly teaches such things as first degree murder(s) on an unlimited scale, conspiracy to commit first degree murder(s) on an unlimited scale, torture, mutiliation of human bodies both live and corpses, slavery, conspiracy to overthrow government, sedition, and polygamy-- to name a few things that are criminal under US penal codes. The US government has acted as an accessory to all of these Islamic teachings and what is worse has covered it up by pretending this is all Constitutional. Islam isn't even deserving of constitutional protections as it teaches what the US Constitution clearly describes as "cruel and unusal punishments" (beheadings, amputations, stonings, whippings, and beatings qualify to most people)--these things are fundamentally incompatible with the Constitituion and are grounds for not permitting Islam to exist here. Furthermore, Islam may not even qualify as a religion as it merges the church AND state which may qualify it for political ideology status. And why DOES Islam enjoy a free pass to break US laws with impunity--as even Mormons do not get to practice polygamy under US laws, but now Muslims do? Why isn't everybody screaming "discrimination" like bloody hell (as this IS discrimination)?

What would we gain by suing the US government for conspiring to bring and keep something in the US that should be illegal under US laws here? Hopefully, the banning of Islam so that it never comes back here again. Then, with the expulsion of practicing Muslims from America we can undermine these groups' dreams of shattering America in the name of Islam.

Maybe we should sent missionaries to Saudi Arabia and convert it into a christian country. Oh wait they would just get arrested or killed. Funny how they can do that to unwanted religious influencing but we cant.

Maybe we should sent missionaries to Saudi Arabia and convert it into a christian country. Oh wait they would just get arrested or killed. Funny how they can do that to unwanted religious influencing but we cant.

ethoman,

Interesting how the same meme is floating thorugh my mind... I read the topic of this thread and listened to "The Day the Music Died". When I refreshed this page... your post was there.

If the Islamist ideology sweeping the world goes unopposed, especially in the United States, it truly will be "the day the music died". Unfortunately, there will be no bringing the music back without revolution and rivers of blood.

Here's an irony of cosmic proportions: a song by Crosby, Stills and Nash, with words that could also help inspire the will to crush the tyrannical march of Islamism, is "Teach Your Children":

You, who are on the road,
Must have a code that you can live by.
And so, become yourself,
Because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by.
And feed them on your dreams,
The one they picks, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by.
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by.
And feed them on your dreams,
The one they picks, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.......

Adding a few more lines for the other liberals, who remember these songs, and actually believe in defending the liberty we've enjoyed:

And we, who've had an easy road,
Must learn the code that the prophet lived by.
And so, become ourselves,
Or our past will be just a big lie.
So teach our children well,
And avoid the looming hell that is nigh.
We must assume the load,
Or we'll toss our freedoms goodbye.

But, we have to tell them why,
If we don't, all our dreams will die,
And that should make our leaders cry.


If we don't get it across to our leaders to toss off the politically correct straight jacket that our society has placed itself in, and the associated dreamy utopian politics, life for everyone is going to be anything but utopian in the future. Either the politicians start getting it, or angryeagle's solution, "immediately eliminated with extreme prejudice" will likely become a necessity.

"After all, Islam is a religion of peace!"

We know why they TRY so hard to convince us that Islam is a religion of peace. They're hoping that by turning up the volume on their lying rhetoric that it will magically eclipse their criminal, evil actions, like we're STUPID or something.

Nope! It hasn't.

It's like trying to cover up a pile of stinky dung with a scented silk scarf -- the stench is still unmistakable.

Islamic state of North America....not a bad idea. Maybe the Canadians could let them set it up in Baffin Island, or if that is too large, Prince of Wales Island.

Posted by: grobari

It's too cold in Canada. Better to live in a hot, dry desert. Mexico should be willing to offer one of its states, since its people are all moving north to cooler climes.
From there, the jihad can spread through Central America and then into Colombia and Venezuela. Brazil is iffy - that huge rainforest, and all.

RalphInfidel says:
Either the politicians start getting it, or angryeagle's solution, "immediately eliminated with extreme prejudice" will likely become a necessity.

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Yep. It will be an "infidel" revolution against mohammedanism in the West. Power to the infidels !

Islamic state of North America....not a bad idea. Maybe the Canadians could let them set it up in Baffin Island, or if that is too large, Prince of Wales Island.

Only if they are marooned there forever.....with no heat, no clothes, no food, and lots of hungry polar bears!

angryeagle said

Somebody, please post the address of this subversive, seditious, traitorous enemy. Where is his mosque? Where does he live? What kind of car does he drive?

youtube.com seems to be the place where you can post videos with personal information that would help in targeting individuals for violent attack, along with an implied death threat.

Well, actually, that's only true if the intended victim is anti-jihad.

"Eventually my proposed altering of the First Amendment will be taken seriously. Islam is a threat to the Constitution itself and therefore should not be protected by any "Freedom of Religion" as put forth by the Founding Fathers. In fact, most of the Americans in Congress two hundred years ago were far more aware of the cult of Islam and its tragic effects on the world than all of our U.S. government combined today seems to be -- or are we just supposed to hope that we are being kept blind and dumb for our own good and suddenly Congress shall rise up and oust the villains from our shores?"

Amen Foe. I kept saying that on LGF till I got banned. I guess I was a Nazi for saying it. :-)

Take a look at the Imam's website: http://www.sabiqun.net/index.html and read the document http://www.sabiqun.net/pdf/SBQ_11.06_Paradigm_Shift.pdf

Following the Islamic propaganda about a "paradigm shift" is a section called "Things To Do Now!" Read number 21, then let other people know about it, particularly your elected representatives:

"21. Always cherish the intention of jihād and the desire for martyrdom in the way of Allah and actually prepare yourself for that."

Feel the love?

Contact info from the website:

"For more information about the As-Sabiqun movement:
Call us: 202.581.2800 or 202.904.1152
E-mail us: info@sabiqun.net or imammusa@hotmail.com
Visit our headquarters masjid:

Masjid Al-Islam
4603 Benning Road SE
Washington, DC 20019

We are located at the corner of Benning Road & C Street SE.
Directions via Metro: Take the blue line to the Benning Road stop and walk 3 blocks to Benning Road and C Street SE."

Note: The "paradigm shift" he talks about appears to be an Americanized English version of the call to eliminate the U.S. "media halo" found in "The Management of Savagery". "The Management of Savagery" used to be at:
www.ctc.usma.edu/Management_of_Savagery.pdf
but the link no longer works. Hmmm... another casualty of political correctness?

Folks like the man in the lead news article that start off this thread saying about want a Muslim North America by 2050 can keep on dreaming. He forgets that there are MANY AMERICANS who are armed to the teeth.

More from "Things To Do Now!". Sounds like paramilitary indoctrination.

3. Be very conscious about physical fitness and exercise. Diet, and abstain completely from alcohol, drugs, and smoking.

21. Always cherish the intention of jihād and the desire for martyrdom in the way of Allah and actually prepare yourself for that.

25. Call others to Islam. Familiarize your leadership with your activities, and never undertake any action without first consulting your leadership. Keep yourself in constant spiritual and physical contact with your community and always consider yourself a soldier in the barracks awaiting a command.

Of course, Christian churches give similar advice, right? Uhh, maybe not, but they may have to before long.

The only way these cavemen can win is if we roll over and let them win. It may get pretty wild here in the states...cowboys and moslems...

Treason doth never prosper,
What the reason?
For if it doth prosper,
None dare call it treason.

Such open sedition should be met with jail time.

Or our leaders only encourage more of this slow-mo terrorism.

The Fifth Column grows greater daily.

Imam Musa's real name is Clarence Reams and he's from Arkansas. He's trouble, he's heavy, and he ain't my brutha. He has spit some pretty unsavory venom about the United States, and should go live in the middle east.

Elric66

The “freedom of religion” clause, does not preclude all other laws.
Example: we do not allow religious freedom when it comes to animal sacrifice or human sacrifice and we don’t allow sex for money religious cults, the first amendment is fine as is.

Bar: I respectfully submit to you that the First Amendment is not fine as it is. Here's why: The First Amendment protects virtually all belief. It doesn't necessarily protect acting upon sundry beliefs. Therefore, Muslims can propagate in this country and, as their numbers swell, they can most definitely gain political clout and thus determine on an increasing scale what will or will not be permitted as long as they are not violent. Most will not be violent and thus their numbers will grow. Demographics, not terror, will be the manner by which Mohammedans can most successfully transform American society. All this will be protected by the First Amendment. That is why we need an additional amendment to the Constitution disallowing Islam legal status in this nation. Elric 66 and Foehammer are correct. You are not. Please rethink your position.

interestinconundrum

no, it's going to be cowboys VS ATF/domestic paramilitary units/SWAT

Here in North America? Dream on, foo'.

lol @ topic

Pretty big talk for a movement that's not even going to exist long before 2050.

By 2050, huh? What's supposed to happen next, Judgment Day? al-Ilah really has it all scripted, doesn't He?

Why can't this fascist terrorist monkey pig piece of bacon be arrested and kicked out of this country?

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let extremists rule

they will drag your country
back to seventh century


absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
all citizens beheaded

for most petty offenses
let society collapse


absurd thought -
God of the Universe thinks
take all girls out of school

they can not be allowed
to achieve more than a man


http://citizenwarrior2.blogspot.com

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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If anyone believes me soft-brained enough to not know how to amend the Constitution so that it remains the same in its heart and yet protects us from Islamism, you'd better start paying better attention. I suppose I could spend more time beating my chest around here again in order to sway people as to understanding that I'm one everyone's side and I've already thought these things through 100x, but the Anvil takes up most of my anti-jihad effort these days.

From March, 2007:

The Threat Worse than Islamic Terrorism

This was just a "quickie" editorial. One of these days I'll actually sit down and write up something more in-depth on the topic of amending the Amendments.

Foehammer

Your suggested amendment would clearly violate not only the equal protection clause but also the due process clause contained within the 14th amendment.

Bar: To the extent you are correct (and that itself is problematical), it is easily obviated by clearly mentioning in any new amendment banning Islam that no 14th Amendment protection (or any other possible Constitutional protection) is in any way to be construed as applying to the Islamic faith. Whatever it would take to make Islam heinous, not only in the eyes of Americans but by any Constitutional standard, is capable of being done if America has the collective will to do so.