Islamic Tolerance Alert.
"Pakistani Militants Kill Self-Proclaimed Prophet," by Muhammad Shahid for New Media Journal:
A self-proclaimed prophet was killed, while one of his sons and a brother sustained injuries in a shootout in the Khyber Tribal Area in Pakistan on October 18, 2007.Activists of the Amr Bil Maroof, a militant organization based in the Bara tehsil (group of villages) of Khyber, shot dead self-proclaimed prophet Shireen, injured his son and brother, and ‘arrested’ his three other sons.
According to Amr Bil Maroof chief Haji Namdar, Shireen of the Yakatara area had declared himself a prophet about three years ago, but he later withdrew his claim after Namdar’s followers met him. Namdar said to the New Media Journal that Shireen had formed a group named of “Sabi”.
Namdar also said that later a feud between two militant organizations...the Sheikhmal Khel and the Amr Bil Maroof... provided Shireen an opportunity to start his preaching again.
Namdar said Shireen had invited and converted some of his family members to the ‘new religion’ introduced by him and that Shireen used to tell people ‘revelations’ about heaven and hell.
On October 18, the activists of Namdar’s organization besieged Shireen’s house and asked him to surrender to the Amr Bil Maroof personnel. However, the house inmates opened fire on the activists. Shireen was killed in the crossfire while his brother Shakeel and son Saleem sustained injuries. One of the Amr Bil Maroof activists, Saeed Khan, received injuries in the incident.
"Indonesian sect leader announces return to mainstream Islam," from ABC Radio Australia:
A controversial Indonesian Muslim sect leader claiming to be a prophet has announced his return to mainstream Islam, while police said an investigation into whether he had blasphemed would go on.The leader of the Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah sect, Ahmad Mushaddeq, handed himself into police last week after state prosecutors had called for him to be questioned.
The sect was declared deviant in a religious edict by the country's chief authority on Islam, the Indonesian Council of Ulemas, two months ago.
Mushaddeq's insistence that he was a prophet ran counter to mainstream Islamic teachings that Mohammed was the final prophet and could see him jailed for up to five years under Indonesia's contempt of religion laws.
But the leader said during a press conference held at Jakarta police headquarters that he retracted all his earlier statements asserting that he was a prophet and said he was just "a regular human being".
"I call on all of my followers to be calm, to repent and return to Islam and obey the law," he said.
He begged for Indonesian Muslims to forgive him and his followers "if we offended and created uneasiness, and I hope that we can be accepted back as brothers in faith."
Yep. You sure don't want to offend and cause uneasiness.
Too bad the original prophet didn't have to put up with any of this. He was about as genuine as the above 2.
Is there a franchise requirment and application approval for prophets in Islam?
Guilty by Breeding. I think Ineedajob doesn't care for the Compitition. It is Ineedajob who desires waking up the Madhi.
Why someone would be so hell bent on waking a sleeping Dog is beyond me. It never seemed like a wise thing to do. One would think being the Dog lover Ineedajob is, he would understand that concept.
These people get many more Prophets and you will need to take a number like you do at good Kosher Deli.
There is only one test for a legitimate prophet: success! If the Quraysh had gotten Muhammad before he fled to Medina, none of us would ever have heard of him and the Christian East would still be Christian.
How dare this false prophet try to eclipse the first false prophet, Muhammad. One false prophet deserves another.
"Mushaddeq's insistence that he was a prophet ran counter to mainstream Islamic teachings that Mohammed was the final prophet and could see him jailed for up to five years under Indonesia's contempt of religion laws."
It's "contempt of religion" to teach something that goes against Islam?
Where is the UN Commission on Human Rights?
Where is Jimmy Carter?
Surely both should be offended by such laws.
Loons abound, most abundantly in the Islamic world.
Would any deny that Robert Spencer, Praise and Blessings Upon Him, is the Seal of Revelation and the Perfect Model among men? Dare they? Blasphemy! [From a most enthusiastic Islamomisiast follower--who cheerfully elevates the Most Preeminent One to cult status as Leader of Counterjihad. Deus vult!]
When I first started reading this I was wandering what are the qualifications to be a prophet in Islam? Then I saw that Muhammad was the 'Last Prophet'. Inferring that there will be no others. But isn't their another prophet coming at the last days? Is he the 'Last/Last Prophet?
I know the biblical requirements for a prophet. And as far as I can tell Muhammad did not fit the definition. Oh, I forgot they reserve the right to say that does not count when it does not conform to their new definitions. Well it also says that God does not change and his word (which I am sure he has maintained) does not change otherwise he would contradict himself.
So none of them are true prophets of God even if they change there minds later. Now I will give you a little prophesy. Jesus is coming back some day. I guess I am a prophet.
Due 18:20-22
But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, `How will we know whether the prophecy is from the Lord or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the Lord's name and it does not happen, the Lord did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.
بسبب 18:20-22
ولكن اي نبي من يدعى الى اعطاء رسالة من إلها آخر او الذين تدعي زورا اتكلم بالنسبة لي يجب أن يموت. 'يمكنك ان نتساءل ،' كيف سنستطيع معرفة ما اذا كانت النبوءه هو من الرب ام لا؟ 'اذا كان النبي يتوقع شيئا في اسم الرب وانه لا يحدث ، الرب لم تعط الرسالة. ان النبي يتكلم من تلقاء نفسه وليس من الضروري ان تكون يخشى.
Let the market decide! If Muslims want to follow a new prophet, so be it! After all, Mohammed never said he was the last prophet. Others have said it on his behalf, but he never did.
The credentials of these wannabe "prophets" are no less valid than those of the confidence man who founded the Islamic murder cult.
Maybe these guys were only Propheteers. You know, like the Mouseketeers?
This guy probably discovered a lost part of the Koran-the part Mo would have revealed had he lived long enough. Mo would have told his followers the truth-there is no Illah, everything done in his name was baloney and Mo made it all up to enrich himself and his buddies.
I don't understand. He said he was "a" prophet, not "The" Prophet. Why would they kill him?
In Allah's eyes, and according to 5:32 Qur'an, did they not commit a mortal sin and be doomed to eternal hellfire?
Dumbasses.
In Muhammad's defense, at least he surrounded himself with people who could read, didn't desire to rape children, and re-wrote Christ as the lesser prophet who would reappear in the last days to kill all the swine and break the cross and envelope all into Islam.
What was good 'ol Mo doing at that time?
Oh yeah, he died long before that, with an unceremonious whimper and unbridled hatred towards one of his Jewish concubines who thankfully murdered that disgraceful example of a human being.
That is the justice that a true God puts forth. It was a smashing day, historicaly.
If Islam wasn't so dangerous, cartoonish it would be, this cult of slavery, posing as a global religious ideology.
...or maybe he prophesied:
"we will pave the streets with the blood of the nonbelievers!"
...and since it didn't turn out so well, they killed him over it.
Either that or obl doesn't like competition & had him whacked.
Ya never know...lol
@tsarbomba29 & supercargo
Propheteers(strike that) profiteers and Confidence Men are the operative words.
Religion is very very big business. Most of these scammers are in it for the money and not much else. They are a spiritually deep as a dish pan. Some say in the first century when visiting preachers came to a village if they asked for an offering that was a good sign that they were false teachers.
1 Tim 3:3
He must not be a heavy drinker or be violent. He must be gentle, peace loving, and not one who loves money.
1 تيم 3:3
وقال أنه يجب ألا تكون ثقيلة الشارب او تكون عنيفة. وقال انه يجب أن تكون رقيقة ، والمحبة للسلام ، واحد لا يحب الما
The articles don't mention the substance of what these self-proclaimed prophets were actually prophesying. Were they also describing hell as being filled mostly with women? Were they also getting commands to subjugate or kill unbelievers; to be permitted to marry daughters-in-law; to deceive the enemy during war time; to kill apostates; etc.?
Perhaps their "revelations" weren't brutal enough to past muster with the mullahs.
Mohammad's only prophecy -in the Hadiths- was that a black man from Ethiopia, with skinny legs, would tear down the Ka'aba, stone by stone.
(Tapping foot and checking watch....)
Mohammad's only prophecy -in the Hadiths- was that a black man from Ethiopia, with skinny legs, would tear down the Ka'aba, stone by stone.
(Tapping foot and checking watch....)
Man, I am goin' to hell for that thought I had when I read your post, 'beard...lol
I visualized actior jimmy "JJ" walker goin' to mecca, wondering what he was gonna use to take the ka'aba apart with...maybe "DYN-O-MITE"???
Oh, damn, I need more coffee...LOL
Can we call Shireen a reformer? This is the future of reformation in Islam? A pipe dream and pie in the sky.
how long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?
nabi ZK
...inshallah fused quartz...