Islamic Tolerance Alert: "Judge rules beating victim guilty of 'evangelism': Says persecutors had right to attack because woman shared Christian testimony," from WorldNetDaily.com (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):
An Iranian judge has concluded a woman who was attacked and beaten and had her sewing shop equipment destroyed by vandals has no legal recourse because she was guilty of "evangelism," according to a new report from Voice of the Martyrs, a worldwide ministry to the Persecuted Church.WND earlier reported that persecution of Christians inside Iran is on the increase, and the new report appears to confirm that.
VOM said the newest testimony is from its contacts inside Iran, and actually depicts "the resilience of believers who are sharing the gospel despite persecution."
The woman, whose name was not revealed, was running a tailoring business, and had volunteered to teach three young ladies how to sew. As part of the conversations that arose, her testimony about Christianity came up, and in response to a number of questions, she started teaching them about Christianity, Voice of the Martyrs said.
The VOM contacts reported, however, one of the students was from "a fanatic Muslim family," and when they discovered the teaching, they first opposed it.
"But this young lady was seriously following her Christian beliefs. Things got worse, to the extent that her parents started beating her up and threatening her if she didn't leave her faith," the VOM report said.
"They told her, 'If you don't return to Islam, we will keep beating you until you die,'" VOM said....
"Iran: Judge rules beating victim guilty of 'evangelism' -- jihadists had right to attack woman because she preached Christianity"
...yet another example of just why you do not want these people in your neighborhood....Ban Muslim Immigration....
This is the same as being anti Nazi in Berlin in 1940 or anti Communist in Moscow at the same time. More proof that Islamania is just like any other form of totalitarianism-evil. Only the "deity" differs.
"They told her, 'If you don't return to Islam, we will keep beating you until you die,'" VOM said....
Sad part is that they were following the teachings of Islam.
"They told her, 'If you don't return to Islam, we will keep beating you until you die,'" VOM
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1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
sounds like mohamad
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
praying tp the moon god 5 times a day on knees
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1. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
sounds like islam
2. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghoot and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
( Quran , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #256)
How quickly they forget their own words... Non-compulsion? Lying again?
Kind of makes you want to revert.
I have always said Islam isnt a "religion" of faith. If these Muslims have faith in Islam, they wouldnt have to threaten people to convert.
Imagine that she were a Moslem seamstress in the U.S., and was teaching 3 young American women to sew, and telling them about her faith. Instead of being beaten, she'd be the star of Sunday supplement articles, presented as an example of the "real Islam", praised as a modern successful businesswoman sharing her deep religious faith, and lauded as a practitioner of peaceful interfaith dialogue. Blah, blah, blah....
"Peaceful, moderate Muslims" of the West, take note. Feeling oppressed lately? Disturbed at the "Islamophobia" on the rise in your neighborhood? Upset at the "profiling" supposedly going on in the airports?
This is exactly what we're afraid of.
The Iranian regime, if we're to believe what we read, is supported by only a "tiny minority" of Iranian citizens, the vast majority of whom (all peaceful, moderate Muslims, mind you)actually hate their government.
Only to illustrate the point that a small band of vicious, highly-committed, well-organized, and well-armed thugs can rule an entire population.
This is just one of the many reasons why all Muslims are under suspicion in the West. Wherever two or three gather and start banging around Koranic verses...bad things seem to start happening.
I am constantly amazed and inspired by the stories that come out of Christians in islamic countries who act so courageously as witnesses to the faith.
Yet in the U.S. many of us Christians are to afraid to say "Merry Christmas" because it may offend someone....
I often wonder how courageous I would be in proclaiming my Christian faith if I was living in an islamic country. I would like to think I would be like this brave women, but the reality is I don't know and I won't delude myself into thinking I would be.
As sad and tragic as this situation is, it is another example of the modern day hero's of Christianity in the middle east.
Maybe this is an improvement, it wasn't to many years ago that Iran hung several young women caught teaching about Christianity.
An Iranian judge has concluded a woman who was attacked and beaten and had her sewing shop equipment destroyed by vandals has no legal recourse because she was guilty of "evangelism"
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Horrible. Now I have at times been somewhat annoyed by Jehovah's Witnesses turning up on my porch at inconvenient times, or by persistent Mormons prosletyzing in the parking lot of my local supermarket..
But that this entirely peaceful and well-meaning woman has no legal recourse against bodily assault and loss of livelihood is appalling.
from above:
"But this young lady was seriously following her Christian beliefs. Things got worse, to the extent that her parents started beating her up and threatening her if she didn't leave her faith," the VOM report said.
"They told her, 'If you don't return to Islam, we will keep beating you until you die'"
What about this young woman? She doesn't appear to be "guilty of evangelism", just practicing her faith, yet there is no indication that the authorities have any problem with her family beating her and threatening her with death.
No, of course not, because she is guilty of the "crime" of apostacy. In Iran, apostacy is a crime punishable by death. The state might not even wait for this poor girl's family to carry out her killing.
Thanks to Voice of the Martyrs for following up this story. Christians have been assaulted, threatened with death, or killed just for practicing their faith in Somalia, Nigeria, Iraq, Kenya, Turkey, Palestine, and Bangladesh just over the last few months.
Oddly, this is an issue which seems little known in the West despite its pervasiveness all over the Muslim world.
You hear more and more of these stories coming out of Iran, and yet many in the West still believe that Iran can be a partner in "peaceful dialogue".
"Yet in the U.S. many of us Christians are to afraid to say "Merry Christmas" because it may offend someone...."
How *dare* you trivialize what happened to this woman by comparing this to it.
Christians have a position of privilege in US culture. If you want to feel what it's like to be a religious minority in your own country - if you want want to know how it feels to be this woman - just ask India Tracy.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/05/12/crusade.lawsuit.ap/index.html
It's after Halloween, so you know what? Seasons effing Greetings.
non-croyant
I grew up Jewish in the USA. A member of a minority. The privileged "Christians" never, ever, mistreated me in any way.
India Tracy is getting treated a lot better than Christians in Saudi Arabia or Iran. She's got the courts, lawyers, the media, everyone cheering for her.
Stop making excuses for the barbarism, intolerance, misogyny, homophobia, humanophobia, anti-semitism of Islam by pointing your finger at the USA.
"After Christmas break in early 2002, India said three boys chased her down a hall at Horace Maynard Middle School, grabbed her by the neck and said, "You better change your religion or we'll change it for you."
From my link above. Note the similarities.
Now don't get me wrong. Despite isolated cases like India's, living under Christianity is a lot better than living under Islam, but I'll be damned if I don't point out the absurdity of Christians playing the martyr card in the United States of America. It just doesn't wash.
I hope the women are at least beaten the correct way...
"Saudi Marriage 'Expert' Advises Men in 'Right Way' to Beat Their Wives"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307680,00.html
I don't really know what to say about this sorta stuff any more...maybe...
Ban muslim immigration
Hey Yankee doodle - you did get me wrong.
I'm an atheist, and you know what? I have been mistreated by Christians in America.
Once at the bus stop a Christian asked me if I believed in Jesus. When I said "no" he punched me in the eye. I just said, "Go tell your preacher what you just did" and went home, since my eyeball was actually injured.
I was ok after about a day, but the principal did nothing to the student who punched me.
I hate Muslims. I hate them because the typical Muslim is somewhere to the right of Jerry Falwell. Yes, I am liberal, but I am not a self-hating one. Blame-America-firsters piss me off as much as Fundie Christians and almost as much as Fundie Muslims.
I realize that my liberal values come from Western civilization.
Luckily for me, my government was founded upon Enlightenment values, which in turn were IN PART formed under the influence of Christian ideals (and Greek philosophy, Roman law, British common law, etc).
But that doesn't mean that there aren't some among us with beliefs just as backward as your typical Muslim.
And utterly idiotic to try to claim that Christians are in any way *persecuted* in this country.
Both here and at LGF you hear comments posters asking where the free-thinking liberals who are concerned about freedom of expression, freedom of religion, women's rights, and gay rights are.
How can so many defend Muslims when they are worse than anyone when it comes to civil rights?
Do they really hate themselves so much, daddy so much, uncle (Sam) so much that they would really ally with those who are against everything they are for?
Well, here I am. A free-thinker. A liberal. I realize that a lot of you are motivated in your antipathy toward Islam by your own religion, and that's fine.
But if I contribute here I am going to speak my mind. That's why I am not in agreement with all the other self-defeating liberals.
I am no one's dhimmi. No Muslim's dhimmi, no Leftie's dhimmi, and no Christian's dhimmi.
non-croyant
I would agree that Christians aren't persecuted in the USA. However, there is an amazing amount of Christianophobia.
OT, C.S. Lewis on atheism:
"If the universe is devoid of meaning, then it is impossible to say it is meaningless."
non-croyant,
I suggest you look into the ACLU's track record if you want to see persecution of Chritianity in the US. Does that excuse what happened to this girl? No. And I am sure that 99.9 percent of Christians would agree. What was done to her was against the teachings of Jesus where when Muslims do things like that, its within their teachings. We are all in the same boat when it comes to Islam. If we are divided we will fall.
"The universe may have a purpose, but nothing we know suggests that, if so, this purpose has any similarity to ours."
Bertrand Russell
There is much more Christianophobophobia.
"War on Christmas"? Really?
Or, better, anexousiaphobia (I think I made this one up - a neologism - refer to the Greek for meaning).
I can understand how you might not be afraid of Christians, since you claim to never have been mistreated by any.
However, surely you can understand how someone like India Tracy, or someone who gets punched in the eye, might be a little wary.
Still, at least she won't be beheaded (most likely), and neither will I, even when I wear my kfr baseball tee around town.
(Granted, I live one county south of India, but there are SOME Muslims here to offend).
Seattle PI Columnist: I Understand Burning Down "Oppressive" Churches...
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2007/10/seattle-pi-colu.html
California: Parents Complain Textbooks Emphasize Islam Over Other Religions
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2007/10/california-pare.html
Seattle PI: "Christian-o-Fascism Awareness Week"....
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2007/11/seattle-pi-chri.html
Just for you non-croyant
"I suggest you look into the ACLU's track record if you want to see persecution of Chritianity in the US."
Cite a case the ACLU has worked on that was a persecution of Christianity, and not merely a justified displacement of Christianity's special privilege in public affairs.
When was the last time a Christian was beaten or killed in this country by government authorities merely for his religious beliefs? When was the last time a Christian was beaten or killed a fellow American merely because of his beliefs. (The Columbine thing was an Urban Legend, by the way and before you even start).
"And I am sure that 99.9 percent of Christians would agree."
How many Christians are in that school who comprise 0.1%? The two that held her neck and tried to compel her to convert? So there were 2000 Christians in that rural Tennessee school?
How do your figures balance when you throw in the fact that the school administration, a government institution, looked the other way? Was it one of the 0.1% who slammed her head into her locker?
"What was done to her was against the teachings of Jesus"
I'll grant you Jesus. Jesus was a lot better role model than Muhammad. But the OT, which a lot of Christians still take seriously, Old Covenant versus New Covenant aside (I've a Religious Studies minor and have studied some of the Bible in Hebrew and Greek after having had the language classes, so spare me), does have YHWH telling us to kill witches.
No true Scotsman doesn't fly when it comes to Muslims:
"... where when Muslims do things like that, its within their teachings."
And it doesn't fly with me in regard to Christianity, either. I know - I grew up as a Southern Baptist.
We actually have some idiot on LGF trying to claim that Fred Phelps is not a Christian, and is actually a Leftist. What kind of moronic mental gymnastics do you have to use to come to that conclusion. Occam's Razor was dull, apparently.
Fred Phelps and the hooligans at that Union County school are every bit as much Christians as Osama bin Ladin is a Muslim.
"We are all in the same boat when it comes to Islam. If we are divided we will fall."
And what happens when the Muslims are defeated?
"The universe may have a purpose, but nothing we know suggests that, if so, this purpose has any similarity to ours."
Bertrand Russell
So, non-croyant, according to Russell, we human beings are not a part of the universe?
Also, Russell says: "The universe may have a purpose, but nothing we know suggests that..."
Typical grandiose thinking! After all, how much do we human beings know? Don't meant to offend, but atheists take the evidence of their own senses to be unfallible, indisbutable.
"People say they don't believe in God because they can't see God. Well, go into a closet and shut the door and you won't be able to see your own hands."
--Swami Prabhubada
Now, I better shut up or I'll bet banned here for preaching.
How *dare* you trivialize what happened to this woman by comparing this to it.
Please re-read my post for its intent....
However, to spell it out my point is this is a courageous women, a Christian who under the worst of circumstances still proclaimed her faith....
In the U.S., where Christians face no such persecutions, many/majority of Christians are afraid to proclaim their faith by simply saying "Merry Christmas"
The comparison is that of the lack of faith with many in the West and that of this incredible woman and all Christians in muslim countries....
It's after Halloween, so you know what? Seasons effing Greetings.
Thanks but not thanks.....
but I'll be damned if I don't point out the absurdity of Christians playing the martyr card in the United States of America.
And utterly idiotic to try to claim that Christians are in any way *persecuted* in this country.
No one on this post was specifically claiming Christian persecution in the USA, and such a conversation would be inappropriate considering the topic of this article.
However it is interesting that you bring it up two times in this thread... you state you are an atheist... interesting that you were quick to pounce... possible case of preconceived notions...
"What was the sense in saying the enemy were in the wrong unless Right is a real thing...."
C.S. Lewis
Mere Christianity
"Fred Phelps and the hooligans at that Union County school are every bit as much Christians as Osama bin Ladin is a Muslim."
Jesus wouldnt approve of what happened at that school but Mohammed would approve of Osama. The analogy kinda falls flat.
But YHWH would approve.
"And what happens when the Muslims are defeated?"
Peace on earth?
non-croyan,
Well since Christians go by the New Testamant and the teachings of Jesus, Ill go with that. Good attempt at deflection though.
The First Shot in This Years "War on Christmas"...
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2007/11/the-first-shot-.html
Make you feel good non-croyant?
"Yet in the U.S. many of us Christians are to afraid to say "Merry Christmas" because it may offend someone...."
said adobe
How *dare* you trivialize what happened to this woman by comparing this to it.
Replied non-croyant
I don't feel that adobe was trying to trivialize what happened to this poor woman.
Adobe was basically saying he/she admired her for being brave enough to freely discuss her Christian convictions in a muslim country, and wondering if he/she would be as courageous.
I have wondered that, as well. I am an athiest, raised with Christian values, and I hope I wouldn't submit if the dull blade was at my throat......but I don't know for sure how brave I would be. Do any of us?
I do know for sure that, as Elric66 says, "We are all in the same boat when it comes to Islam. If we are divided we will fall."
Sorry, non-croyant, but I still don't get your point.
"If you don't return to Islam, we will keep beating you until you die"
Such a lovely faith. Who would ever want to leave it?
"Fred Phelps and the hooligans at that Union County school are every bit as much Christians as Osama bin Ladin is a Muslim."
Sir, a Christian is someone who models his life on Christ. It matters not to me what someone calls himself. I will judge a tree by its fruit.
If someone endeavors consciously on a daily basis to bring his life in congruence with the actions and sayings of Jesus, then I call that person a Christian. If someone in ignorance calls themselves a Christian because their parents drag them to church on Sunday and then commits acts of violence and discrimination against weaker foes, then that person is a sinner.
Osama bin Laden is a hero to Muslims worldwide! Were these thugs that harrassed India heroes to a multi-generational congregation of believing Christians?
Hell, I don't know. I just quoted Bertrand Russell, whose intelligence makes CS Lewis look a like a mental midget. I'm not a fan of throwing random quotes around. That was my snarky comment on it.
I don't know if Russell was around long enough to learn about the fact that we are composed of the remnants of supernovae, that we are all star dust, and are therefore an example of how the universe it aware of itself, but I question the validity of your eisegesis.
I think he is merely pointing out our apparent small role in the scheme of things.
Hardly. If that were true that wouldn't believe that people could delude themselves. All knowledge is officially tentative, scientifically speaking. It is required to be, or it wouldn't be considered scientific knowledge. And check out the book Mind Hacks for a study of how our senses can lie to us.
I think Russell is suggesting humility in regard to knowledge. We are limited beings.
I think he most eloquently stated this in his Antinomy, an idea which challenged the very basis of our knowledge in mathematics, and led to its transformation.
I called myself an atheist because I didn't want to get into semantics. Sometimes I believe in god, a theist agnostic, and sometimes I don't, an atheist agnostic. (Please don't argue over the definitions of these terms - that is an ancient and ongoing debate. I refer to the etymologies for authority when I use the terms - no-god no-knowledge.)
I might believe one way or another, but I don't claim to *know*.
How many of you Christians believe in God, or Jesus, but don't *know* that they exist?
--Swami Prabhubada
Sight isn't the only sense. Swami is not profound at all. Clap your hands, Swami - they feel each other and make a sound at the same time. I dare say you can taste them and smell them as well.
Not profound at all.
Likewise. I guess killing witches was one of those ritual laws, like not mixing unlike fibers in clothing.
Don't get me wrong. That fact that theology allows Christians and Jews to rationalize away the barbarism that IS in the TaNaK and the NT is why those relgions are superior to Islam.
That's why I don't understand how so many of these Christians, like the ones in Union County, behave, at least sometimes, as if they are living by the old covenant and not the new one.
Isn't having a personal relationship with Christ supposed to transform you in some way? If not, then what is the point, aside from avoiding everlasting hellfire?
non-croyant,
They as much of real Christians as those clowns attending military funerals mocking the deceased.
Non-Croyant,
I am sorry for your experience at that bus stop, and the harrassment that India Tracy has experienced at school is inexcusable. I think it is right that she is suing the school district. There was a similar case involving a Jewish cheerleader at the University of Georgia a few years ago.
I don't think anyone here would ever claim that Islam has a monopoly on violence and oppression. I do think, though, that violent Islam is the by far the major threat in the world today, and the most likely to oppress members of other faiths--Jews, Christians, Hindus, Bahai, agnostics, atheists, even Muslims of other sects.
I am not a practicing Christian, but I think it is clear that Christians *have* been targeted for violence in the Muslim world, with beatings, forced conversions, burnings of churches, and killings. Especially at risk are apostates, former Muslims who have converted.
I hope to stand up against this sort of ugliness wherever it appears. Right now,though, the greatest single threat is hardline Islam.
Are you missing the point that she was the target of more than just a few in her community? That even the school administrators looked the other way?
Why are you trivializing the fact that my fellow student at the bus stop was not punished by the principal?
I daresay they are heroes, or they are at least not considered to be the outright villains that they are.
And realize that when I say "they" I mean probably the majority of her classmates, who undoubtedly fostered the climate of abuse, both verbal and physical.
What is my point? I think my point is that it is hard to stand aside many of you when I know, first hand, your contempt for people like me.
I am grateful that I grew up in a Christian society. Yes, our society is Christian, even if our government is NOT. But growing up in a culture dominated by a religion that was more-or-less defanged by Enlightenment principles (yeah I realize that might be insulting, but oh well) is much preferable to growing up in a society that is stuck in the 7th Century. Hell, it's really a 7th century reversion to the Stone Age conception of a cruel and capricious demi-urge.
But, albeit defanged, Christianity is more immediate to me even now, and I have been physically assaulted by it, and have only been ideologically assaulted by Islam, as well as losing many of my compatriots to the ideology - overwhelming more extreme and violet ideology - of Islam.
I have weigh those threats, and it's not easy.
If you want to know why you don't have more people like me on your side then maybe that is part of the answer. For me its a crèche in the park vs minarets on the horizon. The latter is much more chilling, but it is essentially really only a matter of degree.
I have to agree with you here, though. Significant minority, or even majority, it's clear that he is endorsed quite a bit by the Ummah.
That is why I become furious when some self-hating liberal compares him to Timothy McVeigh.
McVeigh is almost universally reviled by America and the rest of the West, and he was put to death by our laws.
There is a comparison there - or a contrast, a contrast of a superior culture to an inferior one.
"Sight isn't the only sense. Swami is not profound at all. Clap your hands, Swami - they feel each other and make a sound at the same time. I dare say you can taste them and smell them as well."
Brilliant! You got it!
And the Bhakti Yogas (for whom Prabhubada is a hero) would say the same thing: though you can't see God, measure God, you can feel God. You can experience God.
It's kind of like Love. You can't measure it. You can't weigh it. Heck, you can't see it. But you can experience the effects. Like the law of gravity. Love is a universal law.
But the atheist wants proof of God using his very limited faculties.
God is to be found within us.
I agree. On the world stage Islam is by far the biggest ideological threat. The fact that this primitive and savage belief system can motivate people to commit mass murder is horrifying. And the countless smaller-scale crimes - execution for homosexuality, adultery, being raped, and apostasy are also chilling.
... but ...
Islam didn't punch me in the eye for stating my beliefs.
Islam didn't slam India Tracy's head into a locker. It wasn't mullahs that demanded that she convert under the threat of implied violence.
It wasn't a Shar'ia judge who ignored her case and refuse to prosecute those who victimized her, and it wasn't the Ummah who fostered the environment under which she was *persecuted* for her beliefs.
Are the students of Horace Maynard high school worse than Muslims. Growing up nearby I would say that they are comparable to the typical Muslim, actually.
Of course they are nowhere near as bad as the radical Muslims. They aren't suicide bombing India Tracy's house, no. The principal, even if he did ignore her mistreatment, didn't flog her (though I wonder if corporal punishment is outlawed in their county as it is in mine ...), and I hope no one was at risk of being beheaded.
But those hooligans, however wimpy they are in comparison to Muslim extremists, are immediate in my part of the world. I doubt any Muslims will bother to fly a plane into the Sunsphere or blow up a K-Trans bus.
I don't think India was afraid of Muslims when she was being held by the neck ...
And I hope you don't think I was denying it. My point is that claiming that American Christians are in any way persecuted is an outrage to those Christians in parts of the world who are *really* being persecuted.
It's obvious that I can feel compelled to respond to points indefinitely, so let me make this the last post in these comments, regardless of what I read after I hit 'post.'
I'll sum up by saying, yes, I think Christians in general are much better than Muslims, but don't be disingenuous when it comes to labeling the bad guys.
For every (well not literally "for every" - and that is what is wrong with Islam) Christian who says that someone like Phelps is not a "true" Christian, that yod-he-waw-he or Yeshua would disapprove of his actions (but probably not the beliefs behind them, to be honest), there is a Muslim who says the same thing in regard to Muhammad/Allah and Osama bin Ladin.
Regarding the Jewish girl being bullied, that is "mob mentality" not Christianity.
Do some research about how usually stable people can be coerced into stupid actions when "group think" takes over.
If you want to know why you don't have more people like me on your side then maybe that is part of the answer.
With people like you who generalize one experience and use it to smear an entire religion and its adherents it tells a lot about you and its not good.
For me its a crèche in the park vs minarets on the horizon. The latter is much more chilling, but it is essentially really only a matter of degree.
You don't read very much do you? You evidentlly haven't read the Koran, Hadiths or even much of what Robert or Hugh have posted about Islam to compare a baby Jesus scene with Islam.
Put it another way in the west and even the U.S. you can dress, worship or not worship and express yourself as you wish. You can't do it in a Islamic country.
To say they are close only speaks of your hatred of Christianity and the west to a lesser extent.
First off, India Tracy is neopagan.
If it's "mob mentality" when a Christian says, "You better change your religion or we'll change it for you," then it's mob mentality when a Muslim yells "Allahu ackbar!" and crashes a plane into a building.
And no, I'm not saying that the former is just *as* horrendous as the latter - though the former should be horrendous to anyone with a conscience - but I am certainly saying that religion plays exactly the same role in both.
As for waltc's comments, you obviously didn't do me the courtesy of reading everything I wrote before seeing fit to offer your 2 cents so I am not even going to bother.
This is for Elric:
http://www.laterralane.com/siems/antichristianbias.htm
I thought I had posted it earlier in response to his links supposedly demonstrating evidence of persecution of Christians in America, but it must have got eaten.
It's too humorous to let slide.
"Islam: the religion of peace...believe it or we'll f**kin' kill you!"
I don't know if I can handle all the love on this one.
She is lucky, I seem to remember they murdered c the Protestant Bishops teenage son about 10 years ago.
non-croyant, welcome to this site--it's good to see that I'm not the only free-thinking liberal here. You won't have an easy time here, I'm afraid--liberals are bashed on these pages nearly as much as jihadists are. Long as you have a thick enough skin, though, you should be fine.
Well, Roobart Sbunsar, since you are here to stay, be prepared! The Conservative approach habitually converts people, even articulate, intelligent liberals like you. Although I don't always agree with Ann Coulter, I'm inclined to agree that "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!"
Two for the price of one: To EXSGTBROWN, I agree with your signoff: BAN MUSLIM IMMIGRATION!
""If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!"
...I'm more of a libertarian than a Democrat, but I see your point. I disagree, however. If people on EITHER side of the divide had any brains, jihad wouldn't be having the success it's having right now. Neither party has a clue. Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II have done nothing to stop jihad; neither did Carter or Clinton. It's a collective failure, not a partisan one.
FACT: We do not have a problem with Ohio Methodists breaking into the stores of and beating up people with differing, odd or even repugnant religious beliefs.
It's the mohammedanism!
Keep it simple.