This is a big improvement over what we have seen from American Muslim advocacy groups. There is still a long way to go, however. How about a forthright renunciation of Islamic supremacism and the imperative ultimately to impose Sharia? "Quebec's Muslims get organized," by Jeff Heinrich for The Gazette (thanks to Jojo):
SHERBROOKE - The burgeoning Muslim population in Quebec is organizing itself to avoid "exaggerated" demands for special treatment and rein in "preachers of hate," the Bouchard-Taylor commission heard this morning."The Muslim community is large, but distinctions must be made," said Abdallah Annab, president of the Association des marocaines et des marocains de l'Estrie, which represents many of the 1,500 Muslims in the Eastern Townships.
"A Muslim from Afghanistan is not a Muslim from the Maghreb - there are several doctrines, there is Sunni Islam and Shi'ite Islam, and there are clear divisions between them," said Annab, a Sunni from Morocco who works in Sherbrooke as a tax auditor for Revenu Quebec.
His association prepared its brief with the local Sunni Muslim association in Sherbrooke "in order to find a basis of agreement to ensure that our image as Muslims is not tarnished and there aren't any exaggerated demands for accommodation," he said.
"In general, there aren't many that are exaggerated," he added.
Ah. What a relief. Still, just talking about the possibility is a step up.
But one way to short-circuit unreasonable demands is to rein in imams at mosques who fill the faithful's heads with distorted views of Quebec society, Annab said."We do suggest that there be limits to what (Muslim) preachers say. They should adapt to the reality here and understand the realities of Quebec society," Annab told commissioners Gerard Bouchard and Charles Taylor.
"Because what happens sometimes - and we don't know how they wind up here - is that preachers come here to preach hate," he said.
How does that happen, exactly? It might be worthwhile to find out.
"And we must insist on this point, that people who give religious instruction be informed, and that there be some kind of control over what they say."Outside the hearing, the leader of the Sherbrooke's Sunni Muslim community agreed that some demands have been exaggerated, but denied that mosques in the region are cauldrons of intolerance.
"People have asked for things which, it can be said, are not legitimate, but it's usually done out of ignorance," said Elmostafa Habboub, a Moroccan-immigrant educator who heads the Association culturelle islamique de 'Estrie.
Ah. Ignorance. Of course. There is always so much of that: misunderstanders of Islam, ignorantly thinking it enjoins them to commit acts of violence.
He gave no examples of accommodations asked for in the Townships, but added "it's just a matter of time" before some begin to make headlines.Far from being hate-mongers, Muslims in Sherbrooke reach out to other religions, said Habboub, whose association has allied with local Catholic, Protestant and Syrian Orthodox organizations to call for the creation in Quebec of an ecumenical council to act as a "filter" for accommodation requests.
Haboub volunteers at Sherbrooke's only mosque, frequented by Muslims from 30 countries, mostly from North Africa. (There's also a small Shi'ite centre in the east of the city).
"There are some little frictions from time to time," said Habboub. "But at the Sherbrooke mosque, I think the message is quite, quite all right. We've never had any complaints from anyone. We've always been very peaceful."
Testifying later with association colleague Walid Dridi, Habboub added that Muslims asking for an accommodation in Quebec shouldn't be surprised if they're refused....
Could they also renounce jihad, sharia law and Muslim supremacy over all over humans?
Could they also renounce jihad, sharia law and Muslim supremacy over all other humans?
Restrictions on what Imams say? I'd rather not see that. I prefer people to hear what Islam is.
Come on, these islamic bastards have already screwed up the institution of higher learning in Quebec - like Concordia U., formerly Sir George Williams U. - (why , even the name change suggests the wind direction of the university)
It's too late. We're on to them. These statements are merely affectations, a sign that rigor mortis has set in to islamic-Canadian relations.
(except among the pinko CBC set)
OT saw a program on OLN about Cuba last day narrated by a young ignorant Cdn media type who narrated the foolishness about Cuba being so poor because the US would not trade with it - false - it trades with all the rest of the world and it is still dirt poor - do ya think it might be the Marxist socialist communist crap that is forced on it and makes it poor and unable to prosper ?
(just think of islamists as socialists, and one has a kernal of the beginning of understanding (lol))
Muslims pledge to avoid "exaggerated" demands...
It's all taken "out of context", dontcha see? In context (of Islam) such "exaggerated" demands would never be unreasonable.
Slow Islam is not better than fast Islam.
It all leads to a theocratic tyranny.
The routes are irrelevant.
lol @ topic...
like putting a topical adhesive bandage on an open sucking chest wound...puhlease.
lol
We Canadians are very particular about the kinds of cancer allowed to fester here ... only the slowly metastasizing, polite, soft-spoken cancers are welcome.
Kill us softly.
dgene -
From the Concordia website:
Concordia University has been in existence since 1974, but its two founding institutions — Loyola College and Sir George Williams University — have a considerably longer history.
The name of the university comes from the motto of the City of Montreal, “Concordia Salus,” which means “well-being through harmony.”
No doubt the name change had to do with the separatist movement, not the current islamic threat.
Indeed, it is telling that the above attempt to rein in islam is happening in Quebec, where the tiny town of Herouxville created a media sensation by posting bylaws against burkas and stonings, among other things.