Muhammad Teddy Bear Madness Update. This woman is being charged under a law against "insulting religion and inciting hatred" for allowing schoolchildren to name a teddy bear Muhammad. It's an interesting illustration of how hate laws can be used. From CNN (thanks to all who sent this in):
LONDON, England (CNN) -- A British teacher arrested in Sudan after allowing her class to name a teddy bear "Mohammed" has been charged by authorities with offending religion, state-run media in Sudan report.A spokeswoman for the British Foreign Office confirmed Wednesday that Gillian Gibbons had been charged under Article 125 of Sudan's constitution, the law relating to insulting religion and inciting hatred....
Under Sudan's Sharia law, insulting Islam is punishable with 40 lashes, a jail term of up to six months or a fine.
Boulos said naming the teddy bear was "a totally innocent mistake" and that Gibbons had never intended to cause offense.
Will no one in the world stand up and call this madness? In a sane world, we would see the UN denouncing the Sudanese government, as well as the State Department and more. Instead, we see pleading with these monsters: it was "a totally innocent mistake," you see. In other words, the lashes would be completely justified if she had meant to poke fun at Muhammad, but she didn't mean to, you see, so please give her clemency.
Will no one stand up and call this what it is: sheer, outrageous madness?
The real madness was that this kind-hearted woman was trying to help the unbearable. I assume that after her whipping (which could land her a good book deal) she'll come home.
I wouldn't be suprised if she's one of these "Islam is peace, Iran should have nukes because we have them" types. Might have swallowed a little too much of her own propaganda. A rude awakening, if this is so.
>> Will no one stand up and call this what it is: sheer, outrageous madness?
Allah is SOOOOOO PISSED at this woman!!!!
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see baby Allah (and his Mohammad dolly) in his diaper crying, boohooing...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! They're making fun of me!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
"Article 125 of Sudan's constitution, the law relating to insulting religion and inciting hatred...."
What about insulting our intelligence and any sane persons sense of justice? And as far as inciting hatred goes -- well -- I'm afraid it's too late for that, because I've hated Islam for a long time now. This only deepens my resentment but strengthens my resolve.
Just curious. I believe Britian has a version of CAIR. What is their take on it?
"This woman is being charged under a law against "insulting religion and inciting hatred""
Killing Christians in Darfur=perfectly acceptable"
Naming a teddy bear="inciting hatred"
There's Muslim logic for ya.
Just curious about this barbarous turn of events, but will this poor English woman, who I presume is of Christian heritage, now convert to Islam, after her 40 lashes, out of a 'Stockholm syndrome'? The whole thing is madness.
You can't help the MOOSlims at any level, not even kindergarten, their world is hopelessly cursed with madness. "Aallllaaahhh Akhbaarrr!"
Another shining example of why it is always best for infidels to avoid the ummah like the plague.
Some stupid islamist in the UK said this law was a throwback to British colonial rule.
Battle of Tours, I understood this to be a Christian school although with some Muslim students. I assumed the British woman to be Christian without a clue as to the Muslim pathology toward their erstwhile prophet.
I can't wait to see how the rest of this farce plays out.
Gordon Brown should have issued an ultimatum and then backed it up swiftly.
It appears it is the only thing the Islamist understands.
How wonderful it is that European leaders are selling their souls to the devil at the expense of the people they vowed to defend.
We need a new Charles Martel (sp?). We need a new Jan Sobieski.
We need a revival and an afirmation of the superiority of the Judeo-Christian culture, confirmed by the fact that everyone (specialy Muslims) prefer to live in lands where the Judeo-Christian worldview is dominant rather than in their own lands.
awake,
Gordon Brown is busy making concessions
wow, i have never read so many anti-muslim statements so far on bbc's have your say.
refreshing, looks like even your average joe bloggs liberal are sick of this hypocritical religion.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=3873&edition=2&ttl=20071128190307
how typical that british muslims have come to the defence of the sudanese government, warning their fellow british not to "jump to conclusions" or not to "over -react".
its a frickin teddy bear named muhammed for goodness sake. Muslims are the ones over reacting!
Sad thing is this issue gets no play with the liberal blogs at all.
Sure they apeshit over evangelicals or over Romney's statement about having a Saracen in his cabinent but some poor British schoolmarm getting 40 lashes evokes no response.
I guess for lefties its ok if Muslims lash a woman to a bloody pulp.
What a bunch of moral lepers.
Battle_of_Tours wrote:
"Just curious about this barbarous turn of events, but will this poor English woman, who I presume is of Christian heritage, now convert to Islam, after her 40 lashes, out of a 'Stockholm syndrome'? The whole thing is madness."
They may force her to make a propaganda tape, condemning the Imperialists and Crusaders. The tape would be widely distributed throughout the MSM. When she returns to the UK, she will explain that she only said those things to save life and limb. Her real story will be a small footnote, if it get's covered at all.
That's what happened with the reporter from the Christian Science Monitor, who was taken hostage in Iraq.
The liberal bloggers are only concerned with the Sudan government's actions in Darfur. They will stand up for African Muslim minorities but not for European (or African) Christians.
"Article 125 of Sudan's constitution, the law relating to insulting religion and inciting hatred...."
That must mean that Islam is outlawed in the Sudan; it's the most insulting religion around. And it incites the most hatred.
Gordon Brown is busy making concessions
Posted by: Elric66 at November 28, 2007 2:03 PM
Elric,
I hear ya. I am just hoping against hope for this is vital to his perceived strength by the Islamists.
Ultimately, this event hurts the image of Islam, as is evident by the prompt statement by the American Islamic Congress.
http://www.aicongress.org/bear2.html
"Article 125 of Sudan's constitution, the law relating to insulting religion and inciting hatred...."
That must mean that Islam is outlawed in the Sudan; it's the most insulting religion around. And it incites the most hatred.
Gordon Brown is busy making concessions
Posted by: Elric66 at November 28, 2007 2:03 PM
I hear you, but this is vital for how he will be perceived by the Islamists in the future.
Ultimately, this event further dispels the myth of Islam being peaceful and tolerant, and the Islamists damn well know that. That is why this response was so forthcoming.
http://www.aicongress.org/bear2.html
...as of today, the rule should be ...NO MORE Muslim immigragion allowed.....
"I guess for lefties its ok if Muslims lash a woman to a bloody pulp.
What a bunch of moral lepers."
That's a pretty amusing outburst, I must admit.
Awake,
Its sad that this group has spoke out more strongly than Gordon Brown.
I just watched a video over at foxnews where Tammy Bruce a former officer of NOW blasts the womans organization for not speaking out on this for fear of offending.
She called them a bunch of leftists. It's a hoot to listen to. She pointed out that to a woman of her age (the teacher) this could be fatal.
Lefty loonies of the world you are on notice. It's 1968 and the 'whole world is watching'.
Roobart you are barking all over the place these days, you are never going to eat that banana. Pick a position and sit boy.
Speaking of jihadists: I just HAD to post this--it's too funny not to--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9kJ5IBFZmY
If you go out in the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise.
If you go out in the woods today
You'd better go in disguise.
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain, because
Today's the day the islomfascists have their picnic.
FoxNews has a picture of the poor woman in their story here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313426,00.html
If she is whipped then the west needs to take Draconian measures against Sudan. If this is tolerated then anything will be. Or maybe "anything" already is tolerated and that's why we get more and more of it all the time.
"If she is whipped then the west needs to take Draconian measures against Sudan. If this is tolerated then anything will be. Or maybe "anything" already is tolerated and that's why we get more and more of it all the time."
Sudan is ruled by Omar al-Bashir. Omar al-Bashir is an ally of Hosni Mubarak. Hosni Mubarak is an ally in the "War on Terror." Ergo, the West won't touch Omar al-Bashir.
*sigh* makes me want to vomit.
"Several Sudanese newspapers ran a statement Tuesday reportedly from Unity High School saying the administration "offers an official apology to the students and their families and all Muslims for what came from an individual initiative." It said Gibbons had been "removed from her work at the school."
Biggest Cowards on Earth! SHAME!
That's it Islam, keep pushing, keep pushing. Nearly there, nearly there, not long now.
I think that * Islamophobes * must have made up this story from thin air to support their contention that Islam is a deplorable faith.
Nice to know that the National Organization of Women has this case "on the radar.". Too bad they have elected not to take a positon or make a statement. Nothing to see here folks. Move along, please, move along.
MP,
I would have been shocked if NOW did comment. Has the British version of CAIR commented?
"MP,
I would have been shocked if NOW did comment. Has the British version of CAIR commented?"
Isn't the entire British Government one big CAIR?
Roobart,
Actually it seems the British government doesnt CAIR about this poor woman.
Surprisingly, and commendably...
"The Muslim Council of Britain reacted angrily to the news, saying it was "appalled" and demanded Mrs Gibbons' immediate release."
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7117430.stm
"Surprisingly, and commendably...
"The Muslim Council of Britain reacted angrily to the news, saying it was "appalled" and demanded Mrs Gibbons' immediate release."
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7117430.stm"
Good news indeed, but I'd like to see them do more than just "react angrily."
"Will no one stand up and call this what it is: sheer, outrageous madness?"
Yeah, very good. The Western governments are not doing anything but dragging their feet.
Have you - YOU - sent a letter to the Sudan Consulates DIRECTLY - telling them that their government is mad, outrageous, and has the nerve to try a foreign individual under their local laws?
What are separate, common individuals going to do about it?
1 - Our time for rising up will come, in the meantime, I'm hardly gong to march to the Sudan COnsulate with a placard, for
2 - A loony dumb woman that went into a war zone - that is obviously in a war and
3 - that said, woman has read up on what is going on in Sudan - as to warlords with big, bad AK and Machetes, and are eager to rape and take slaves and
4 - as well, as said madwoman, goes to a foreign country, and especially, one that is so seriously, different, and backwards, and immursed in a weird lifestyle, that is so evident in everything around her, and DOESN'T READ THE PARTICULAR BOOK, under which these weirdos live!
Don't go talk about begging letters, when the teacher herself stepped out into the chasm with EYES WIDE SHUT!
We dare not call it sheer outrageous madness, because it is based on religious rules, and we are not allowed to question other cultures. Their culture is no more or no less outrageous than any other, doncha see.
However, there are forums where we are allowed to recognize and point out the differences between religions and cultures, and I am about to place a comment on one of them now.
here's my polite letter to the muslim council of great britain.
dear fellow "british citizens".
i would like to thank you for your recent help in the matter of the "teddy bear "incident and for stating that this act is outrageous. yes it is outrageous and another nail in the coffin for muslim and non muslim relations within the UK.
mohammed is such a reverent name yet why so many Mohammed's have caused terror worldwide and no "outrageous" response from your organisation? so you consider a stuffed teddy bear to have more meaning than a living breathing sentient human who would take your prophets name in vain to create mass murder? mohammed atta for instance.
"There was clearly no intention on the part of the teacher to deliberately insult the Islamic faith," said Secretary-General Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, in a strongly-worded statement."
But if it was deliberate, then it would be ok? He also seems to agree that naming a teddy bear "Mohammed" is an insult to Islam.
Sorry, Im not impressed at all with their statement.
...I keep having this mental image of hordes upon hordes of Christians marching down a street and burning stuff because someone named their teddy bear "Jesus."
...wow. I gotta lay off the Johnnie Walker. Seriously.
Robert makes a good point, by telling these people it was an innocent mistake they affectively tell these people that an insult to muhammed, if it is meant, should be punished. When will my government realise that they are inciting religious hatred with their appeasement.
The British government tried appeasement with the Nazis, and look where that got us.
Their response should have been to tell them that if this woman is not released immediately that they would ban the practice of islam in the UK.
Time and again we see appeasement politics. Anyone remember the British sailors who were kidnapped by the Iranians? The same sailors who were then told they could sell their stories, only so that the press could rip them apart.
This goes far deeper than politics. I am not a politician, but even I know that when you attempt to appease a despotic regime they see it as weakness, and will exploit that weakness to further their aims.
The government we have says that they are trying to change Britain. They are, but the question should be, what are they trying to change this country into?
Weak, pathetic politicians will take us into a third world war. But, perhaps we should consider the possibility that this is what they want. After all, it isn't their children who will die, only yours.
If you torture this woman then you might as well be torturing all the descent women on this planet who have never done you no harm and go about their business raising and teaching the children of the world everyday.
A teddy bear represent warmth and comfort to a child. Sadly the teddy bear is demeaned by suggesting that it is has been supposedly named after the Prophet Mohammed then what it really means to children all over the world.
It is a sad and pitiful commentary on sharia law.
Were are all the Muslims speaking out against such an outragous atrocity! I'm listening and all I hear is a deafening silence.
Has anyone pointed out that Muhammad (in its various forms) is the most popular name in the world??
This is just another example of self-incurred rage.
1) 'Muhammad' is (in all likelihood) the most common boy's name in the Sudan.
2) Ms. Gibbons did not choose the name, her class did (Muslims and Christians).
3) Since no offence was intended, Omar al-Bashir and his thugs could have quietly dismissed the case; instead, they are hyping it up.
[4) The thugs from Khartoum know they can once again make a mockery of Human Rights without any ramifications by confronting and embarrassing the timorous and appeasing British people.] (Forgive me, but Churchill is dead; enter Karen Armstrong.)
-- Mary Umm Allah
cf. the Bulgarian nurses in Libya.
elric66
yes, the "deliberately" part of his speech had the hairs on the back of my neck go up.
sinister and creepy.
it's a frickin teddy bear!!!
i bet they also make a public show of either burning the teddy bear or chopping its head off. but then, wouldn't they have just committed a blasphemy act?
do muslims get their material from monthy python?
this is seriously starting to resemble a scene from "the life of brian".
http://my.mainetoday.com/story.html?ID=1822
Check this out --- it's another atrocity that's landed upon the Brits ----- I can only hope that this is part of the U.K.'s "Appeasement Strategy".
Since I don't see a story about the riots in France, I'll put this OT here.
This one is in French.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68072V5iEx4&feature=related
The aftermath of the first night of riots. The police station burned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL3EO0vcOkI&feature=related
The second night aftermath. The library burned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyv3dgMzSq8&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKPqT_c2xlI
why do the muslims think they have the right to punish others for insulting any prophet.their whole religion is an insult to christ. should we start handing lashes out to them?
Sleep it off, Roobart.
Maybe when you regain full use of your faculties, this insanity will all be over!
On the other hand, given that the next outrage is on its way, maybe Iiii should take to the bottle.
As for this poor pawn of Sudan, she could not have avoided offending these people however she tried. If she DIDN'T assent to her students' suggestion, then that too would probably be construed as an affront to Islam. We know that at least ONE family made a case out of this--probably out of Islamically-inculcated malice.
mohammed atta! where was the muslim world wide rage that a muslim, took the name of mohammed and murdered 3000 men, women and children on 9/11. mohammed atta!
now name a little stuff teddy bear mohammed and "oh my god"! the muslim world goes ape.
I have a lobster named Allah....
3.5 pounds.
Butter..lemon....fries..and deep fried corn.
First $30.00 gets him.
Steamed in fresh Maine sea water of course!
- Muslim's arrest teacher over teddy bear "insult"
- Muslim's riot over Mohammad cartoons
- Mohammed most popular name
C'mon Muslims don't you know you are all guilty of idolatry? 100 lashes each. At least it will keep you away from a day of protesting (rioting over) some "insult" and give the rest of the world a break from your insanity.
40 lashes, 40 bombs.
"why do the muslims think they have the right to punish others for insulting any prophet.their whole religion is an insult to christ. should we start handing lashes out to them?"
Posted by: aleipho
Good point!
Its sad that this group has spoke out more strongly than Gordon Brown.
Posted by: Elric66 at November 28, 2007 3:18 PM
Elric,
OK,ok, I conceed. Have pity on one that was merely hoping against hope.
Sad indeed.
The woman maybe a loon but she doesn't deserve the 40 lashes at hands of a bunch of near stone age savages.
And the conduct of the secular left and feminist groups in this case and others shows how morally and intellectually bankrupt they are. Nothing but a bunch of bloodless white trash who are more interested in attacking and dragging down the west than anything else.
Just so I get this straight:
Naming your child Mohammed = Okay
Re-naming yourself Mohammed when you're a popular public figure who earns his living by physically assaulting other people in a competitive format= Super duper
Mentioning a cat named Mohammed in a Bangladeshi cartoon = Murderous rage
Not intervening when a group of Sudanese children decide to name an inanimate, snuggly object shaped like a tiny bear Mohammed = Inhumane torture
Is that right? Did I miss anything?
Teacher charged in teddy bear case
there was a time that something like this would result in the Royal Navy and its ships being dispatched to punish the tin pot dictatorships that dared to pull this nonsense on one of the citizens of Great Britain perhaps what the British need to send a squadron of Vulcan bombers into Sudan and let the people of Sudan know that this woman is released unharmedthat a lot of them are going to meet their made-up god and pedophile prophet the next day why the British being set UNics about this and show the world that they have not lost their balls
ROBERT
Will no one stand up and call this what it is: sheer, outrageous madness?
Posted by: Infidel419
Well, to be fair, the BNP have been doing just that for years.
Ah but there is people who are standing up and calling what it is, and it is good you bring the issue forward
But Robert, like Charles Johnson prefer to look at the skeletons in their cupboards.
The BNP have been callig out about Islam and warning the English long before the two towers where tumbled, it fact long long before Jihad Watch was founded.
Nick Griffen did not need a 9/11 to wake him up, or a 7/7, in fact he was predicting they would happen, but no-one listened.
The chances are that this women would be one of those that would rather call the BNP fascist than to listen to what they are saying.
Just a look at some people who bear the name Mohammed, then you may understand it is disgusting to even call a teedy bear by such a revolting name
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/06/man-called-mohammed.html
This smells like another multi-million dollar terrorist funding ransom demand will be coming down the road really shortly. It stinks on ice.
"Will no one stand up and call this what it is: sheer, outrageous madness?"
- Robert
I will!
This is an insult to teddy bears everywhere.
For God's sake Britain, ignore your insane Prince Charles and defend your people from the Islamic onslaught!
Just noticed this in a post above -- "American Islamic Congress". There is another entity just like it in the UK called "The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain".
If they are organisations taking care of their communities in a host country won't they use terms like 'association' or 'society' like other ethnic groups. Why would an ethnic group call itself the "Congress" in the States, or the "Parliament" in Britain? Do they see themselves as a government-in-waiting, waiting to replace the governing institution of their host country?
Assalamau Laikum all,
It is a shame to treat this sweet kaffira in this manner.
However, we ARE talking about the prophet of prophets, the perfect man, presumabely one with direct contact with our keeper (mine and yours), merciful Allah SWT.
There should be no talk of incitement or hatred, simply one of innocent misunderstanding.
The sudanese authorities should invite Ms. Gibbons to one week of knowledge/training/enlightenment in a madarassa so that misunderstandings in her mind can be cleared up.
If at the end of that week she wishes the recite the sahada and cover her hair....well so much teh better.
A good outcome all round would have been had.
"However, we ARE talking about the prophet of prophets, the perfect man, presumabely one with direct contact with our keeper (mine and yours), merciful Allah SWT. "
...that is debatable.....all Allah brought to the people was poverty, misery, and death....anyone who delivered these things to the people is no hero.....
Ban Muslim Immigration...
Naseem,
Not that you would answer but do you think that 40 lashes is justified for naming a teddy bear Mohammed, innocent or deliberate?
How about this: for each lash she receives, a mosque will be shut down in the UK?
...time to cut off all foreign aid to this woeful country.....all foreign aid...not one more penny.....and Ban any Immigration from this country....in fact , Ban all Muslim Immigration...
Some sense at last from a national paper:-
Quote:- "This episode is another illustration of why we should regard the Islamification of parts of our major cities as a threat to our way of life which should be stopped in its tracks or, better still, reversed." -- Daily Express, UK.
http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/26744/Gillian-s-ordeal-shows-values-incompatible
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Asaalamau Laiakum Elric,
She should NOT get a Single lash....what utter nonsense....the punishment suggested in no way fits the "crime".
Like I said...if sharia lite were to be implemented....sho would be invited to spend a week in an islamic knowledge institution & promise to pass on what she has learned.
"Invited", Naseem?
Oh, I see, she needs a reeducation camp. Hmmm...where have I heard that before.
If sharia lite were implemented? Is that like fascism lite? Or Nazi lite? Or Stalin lite? Or is it more like intellectually and morally empty lite?
Why, Naseem, after your condemnation of the level of punishment this woman should get, do you go on to suggest another punishment, as if a crime had really been committed?
It must be because you think she really did something wrong. And that, above all, makes your "religion" a total farce.
What a silly little paper god who could be blown away by a room full of children, a stuffed bear and a dhimmi woman. Look at the circular reasoning and laughable rationalizing your entire faith has to do in order to continue to prop up this naked emperor.
This political dogma has my contempt and its adherants have my pity.
This womans plight has nothing to do with "inciting religious hatred" (the vile acts of muslims the world over does this quite well) and everthing to do with vindictiveness and retribution. This is the petty revenge that muslims seem to specialize in, and it always seems to be directed at the weak and powerless. This incident is being seized upon by the lunatic muslim leadership of Sudan to make a point, and that point is "Don't dare criticize us for carrying on a genocidal campaign of extermination against our "dhimmi" or this will happen to any westerner foolish enough to enter our country". Such wonderful diversity in the muslim world, surely we should celebrate it!
winoceros wrote:-
>> What a silly little paper god who could be blown away by a room full of children, a stuffed bear and a dhimmi woman. Look at the circular reasoning and laughable rationalizing your entire faith has to do in order to continue to prop up this naked emperor.
Our Naseem troll is deliberately using a play-on-words--"lite" as in "lite beer," a phonetic contraction and synonym of "light"--as in "soft" or in "source of illumination."