"The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way."

Anyone need a fatwa?

http://the-gathering-storm.blogspot.com/2007/11/fatwa-for-you.html

National Socialism promoted similar social views.

It seems strange to us kuffar that these seemingly otherwise assimilated people have redefined the very meaning of humanity, stripping it universal application and inherent value, just to justify the incomprehensibly irrational, far from self-evident "Truths" of Islam.

National Socialism promoted similar social views.

It seems strange to us kuffar that these seemingly otherwise assimilated people have redefined the very meaning of humanity, stripping it of universal application and inherent value, just to justify the incomprehensibly irrational, far from self-evident "Truths" of Islam.

The Islam concept of "Walaa wal Baraa" -- Hatred and Love -- must be clearly grasped. The Hatred is for the Infidels, for the Unbelievers, all those who reject Islam, and the Love is for the Fellow Believers only, the members of the Umma, to whom, and to Islam, sole loyalty must be owed by the good Muslim.

Many Muslim websites discuss this, and it goes hard with the occasional Muslim who suggests, for example, that sometimes the Kuffar (the Unbelievers) are not always to be regarded with such hatred, or fooled with outward smiles, and inward contempt.

Here's one bit taken recently from such an English-language site for Muslims:

• Walaa wal Baraa
October 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Aaisyah was right! Even if we don’t know all of Allah’s will, we know what He has told us. What do you think walaa wal baraa is? Something made up? A mistake of Ibrahim (alayhi salam)?

Bunch of coffee shop Muslims you all are. And yes, maybe Indonesia was hit because of the hijabs not being worn, among other sins. An Indonesian himself told me that’s why it was hit. Gulf Coast African told us that New Orleans was hit because of its corruption, so was Mississippi. Turks themselves Turkey was hit because they were so sinful. This is a pattern, so why are you all closing your eyes to it?

The Islam of many of you is a joke, even if Allah decides mine was a joke on Judgment Day, that’s why I didn’t greet you all with “salam alaykum”. You’re not careful to avoid negating your shahada, and if you negate a condition of it, you negate it. One of those conditions is walaa wal baraa. And that means you don’t feel sorry for the kuffar when Allah punishes them. Even if you feel like giving them charity, you don’t feel sorry for them, and you really shouldn’t give them charity and help from a position of weakness, it only reinforces them against Islam. They’ll only conclude that you’re doing PR work because you want to undo the damage of 9/11. Now, when you seize power and authority in the land and Islam has the upper hand, mercy goes a long way to impress them into Islam. Otherwise, this weak Islam you (Umar Lee, Tariq Nelson, and Abu Sinan, and your fans) promote only makes the kuffar happy with their kufr and not impressed with Islam as the true revelation from Allah. I see a lot of potential for good in you and I see you misusing it to make the wrong powers happy. Sorry, guys, Sameer Khan was right and you all were wrong. Look up the evidences and you’ll see. If you want to impress kuffar with kindness, get the upper hand for the Shariah first.
• Walaa wal Baraa
October 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Here’s how he supporteed what he said below. Now, how do you all support your positions of loving the kuffar while hating the most serious of Muslims?
……
1. Hanifan - October 25, 2007
I think its permissible to be happy at the punishment that befalls the disbelievers.
Allah says:
“But when he saw their hands went not towards the (meal), he felt some mistrust of them, and conceived a fear of them. They [Angels] said: “Fear not: We have been sent against the people of Lut.”. And his wife [Sara, wife of Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh)] was standing (there), and she laughed: But we gave her glad tidings of Isaac, and after him, of Jacob.” [Hud:70-71]
Scholars say, Sara laughed when she heard of the punishment that was about to befall the people of Lut. She was happy. However at the same token, prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) was pleading for the people of Lut:
“When fear had passed from (the mind of) Abraham and the glad tidings had reached him, he began to plead with us for Lut’s people. For Abraham was, without doubt, forbearing (of faults), compassionate, and given to look to Allah. ” Hud:74-75.
It seems both options are permissible.

2. inshallahshaheed - October 26, 2007
To Hanifan -
Yes that is correct, however the Shaykh, Abu ‘Aasim Muhammad al-Maqdisi argues in his brilliant treatise “Millat Ibraaheem” that this pleading for the nation (Qawm) of Loot (’alayhis salaam) by Ibraaheem (’alayhis salaam) was originally for the nation (Qawm) of Loot, but when the Angels said,
“Verily, we are going to destroy the people of this [Loot’s]
town…” (29:31)

Ibraaheem (’alayhis salaam) then changed his pleading to the believers amongst Loot’s nation, especially for Loot himself, and this change of pleading was when Ibraaheem said (as was recorded by Allah),
He (Ibraaheem) said: “But there is Loot in it.” They said: “We know better who is there, we will verily save him [Loot] and his family…” (29:32)
And the Shaykh uses the tafaseer of Ibn Katheer (2/594), and at-Tabari’s narration from Sa’eed ibn Jubayr (15/403) to support this argument.
He also then argues that even if this wasn’t true, then the notion that the Prophets - because of their mercy - to wish for the guidance of their people before their imminent destruction is understood. However, the point shouldn’t be forgotten regarding the Prophets and that is, “And they (i.e. the Prophets) were the ones who were not sent in the first place, except to show their open enmity and disavowal towards the polytheism (Shirk) and its people.”

As for America and its people, then they are much worse in comparison to the nation of Loot (’alayhis salaam); in fact, there is no comparison considering that there are cases of rape every 3 minutes (or so) and all the other horrendous statistics.

These two sentences say it all:

The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way.

The West (and other non-Muslims) will not lose their "enemy of Islam" status by changing foreign policy, by sacrificing Israel, by giving more aid to Islamic nations, on and on.

Submission to Islam is the only drink that will quench the thirst.

Those JW readers who are practicing Christians must find loving neighbors like this woman quite a challenge.

Hmm, I may have to change my name to "Happy Subhuman" because I am indeed delighted not to be in this cult with the master race mentality.

MP,

True, it is not easy to love those who hate both the Christian faith and Christian believers, but this is why Christian believers pray that such folks repent and come to faith in Jesus Christ.

Unless the children of these new Americans learn reciprocity and learn to repay good for good, and forebear repaying evil for evil, and do this not merely for calculated advantage, they are not likely to go far in this New World, I think.

"The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of Islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way"

I put one pant leg on at a time just as any other human being on the face of the planet does.

It is ridiculous thinking like this that appears so much less than childish, as well as pitifully and sadly warped.

It is as if commonsence has become non-existent for those who bury their heads completely into the teachings of Quran which unfortunatley is the case among so many radicals.

And to think that for the most part we are all born equal and of pure innocense and innocent thought (blessed are the children) until we are braiwashed into such outragous thinking.

What was posted a few posts back by kamala proves there is no LOVE for others to be found in either Islam, the Koran, or the Hadith, period.

"They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way."

Amazing! This is magic! One minute you're less than..the next minute " There is no god, blah, blah..POOF ! - a you'e a human!

Me Tarzan, you Jane!

"The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way."

Proof of no LOVE shown here.

"They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way."

Amazing! This is magic! One minute you're less than..you say " There is no god but...blah, blah.." the next minute- POOF ! -(Ellen look- alike waving the smoke away) your'e a human!

Now I ask you guy..there's IS magic in the world! There is...There is! "

Whoever does not believe that the kaafirs are kaafirs is himself a kaafir

Question:
Is it true that anyone who does not accept that kuffaar are kuffaar is a kaafir himself, even if he prays, believes in the Qur'aan, and the Prophet Muhammad ( )? If so, what is the proof for this? Can a person insist on believing that Jews and Christians can be believers and go to heaven after being shown clear evidence against this, and still be considered a Muslim?

Answer:

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6688&ln=eng&txt=kaafir

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=974&ln=eng&txt=judging

"Bunch of coffee shop Muslims you all are."

That's an interesting turn of phrase.

It's stunning the way some of these Muslims "intellectualize" bigotry and hatred.

Well, it all goes back to the Islamic texts, doesn't it? After all, if it's in the Koran, or if Mohammed said so, it must be the perfect way to think and act, even in the year 2007.

I'm reminded of the serious blog discussion about Islam's rules governing the keeping of slaves.

Do they not realize how bizarre their thinking is? (Of course not.)

The problem is the millions of people who think the same way and follow the same guidebook for world domination.

I need some cheering up. I need to watch that Star Trek movie in which Picard and Data defeat the Borg.

Just for the record, from what I'm finding, "walaa" means "allegience" and "baraa" means "enmity."

"Al-Hubb" means "love" and "al-Bughoud" means "hatred."

New terms for me, though not new concepts.

Josephine,

We are Umma. Resistance is futile. You WILL be Islamicized.

LOL.

Fight Global Jihad. Embrace Islamomisia.

Shy guy -- You are right. Loyalty to Believers. Hostility to Unbelievers. I was taking liberties in translating, because both the "Loyalty" and the "Hostility" are much stronger than the English can convey. So to make clear, that the Loyalty is sole and unswerving loyalty, owed to Believers no matter what, in our view, unacceptable things those fellow Believers may do (as long as it is to further the cause of Islam), and the Hostility toward Unbelievers both permanent and unrelieved and fierce., I used "Love" and "Hate." Perhaps I should have explained all that above.

How in the heck can the Democratic Party stand to accept this religion when those who follow it are against the other major tenets of their party?

Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my enemy, not my friend.

We found that out with Saddam. Never mind where we might be right now if Carter had supported the Shah. Sheesh. Can't ask THAT question, can we Mr. Anti-Apartheid (unless it's happening in other countries that the U.S. doesn't support)

As a devout, practicing kuffar/kuffur/kaffir/etc/etc/etc of long (and future) standing ... I would like to know how it's spelled. I may want it tatooed on my chest.

... Along with the obligatory dashed line and "cut here" around my neck.

Havoc, see Wikipedia.

The sweet muslims have these private little bloody communications but they don't dare express that kind of crap in front of the "kuffur", at least not the ones I know...and love.

Naseem -- bless her heart -- once referred to me as her "kaffir sister". At the time I thought that she was stating something sweet and endearing because 'NAIVE ME' didn't know what a kaffir was, maybe it was something cute & furry; but that's the beauty of getting to know Muslims & Islam over time, as it's just one evil revelation after another.

Funny how our English word "coffin" sounds a tad-bit familiar to the death cults kaffir/kaffur.

It seems strange to us kuffar that these seemingly otherwise assimilated people have redefined the very meaning of humanity, stripping it universal application and inherent value, just to justify the incomprehensibly irrational, far from self-evident "Truths" of Islam.
Posted by: John C

Many things pre-date islam, yet are intrinsically embedded in it. For example, murder, rape, misogyny and military and demographic conquest all pre-date islam, but all have been incorporated into islamist doctrine simply because they are manifestations of the most base instincts of Man to which islam appeals.

Whereas Christianity faces an uphill battle by exhorting the individual to go against his baser instincts, islam preaches that the individual do quite the opposite - to surrender to the innate violent and sexual urges that men have. And you can see why.

History, and common sense, both indicate that conquest is better achieved through aggression, both sexual and military, than through appeals to saintly virtue as the early Christians advocated. Since mohammad was a warlord, his system of governance reflects this logic. Had it not been for the Roman Emperor Constantine making Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, and by extension, giving it the gravitas of the world's most powerful institution, Christianity might very well not have survived to this day, based as it is on self-sacrifice and sexual restraint, both counter-instinctual for survival. Islam, on the other hand, went the other way.

@topic

HMMMmmmmmmmm...they screed islamophobia ad nauseum, complaining how WE are at war with islam...all the while THIS entry is perfectly ok for THEM to use against US as one of an infinite number of justifications to attack us.
Nope, no hypocrisy there!
(/sarc)

So CAIR, AAI, MPAC et.al.,...your point IS...???

Excellent point/post Ynkedoodl2!

Islam in this as revealed in this eye-opening (to the uninitiated anyway)interview is revealed to be well and truly reminiscent of such 'B' fright flicks as "Night of the Living Dead" or the pod people such as those seen in the subtle but frightening "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (the 1956 version). A snicker-snack that devours human beings with gusto at the slightest hint of that codeword "unbeliever" or "infidel."

The Muslim, as we see with this happy housewife of Islam, is literally stripped by Islam of every vestige of his or her identity (as evinced by this Islamic female in the interview); the person's capacity to think and feel are copmpletely and utterly destroyed too. The result is the creation of an ex-human being that has been programmed to slaughter selected members of humanity while living in an unreal world and existence--a zombie-esque killing machine without peer.

Diabolical in the truest sense of the word. I don't think it would be stretching the truth to claim that Islam's origins are non-human (and anti-human) and predate Muhammad by several thousand years.

From the poem I saw on the #*#^@'s site, she is probably a native to the Americas.

Good that our deaths are so amusing to this skank. (armadillo)

The New Testament Books after the Gospels are full of intolerance toward non-Christians and especially toward Jews. Many, many verses demean non-believers. Thanks to Paul.

What mainstream Christian leader still preaches this kind of intolerance? Imagine if Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church had ten million devout followers. Fortunately creatures like him are very rare and will hopefully stay that way.

The religious climate in America of 2007 is nothing at all similar to America of 1907. American Christians seem to have re-evaluated the religion over the past hundred years; can Muslims do the same with theirs?

Enlightened self-interest, objective analysis, and self-revealing introspection don't seem to come easily to a Muslim, saddled as he is with a fixed (albeit inconsistent) set of answers to the nature of everything; Islam is the epitome of cognitive dissonance, IMO.

You could have also quoted
“Lo! the worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful who will not believe.” (8:55)
“And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! “ (9:30)

The Koran by itself explains the surprising arrogance of so many Muslims living in the West. They really do look down their nose at the infidel indigent population as lowlifes – their cult essentially instructs them to do so. So we shouldn’t be surprised that they make demands, sneer at you in public places or become outraged that such lowlifes would criticize them or Islam – the nerve!

Allowing Muslim immigrants into your Western countries is not bringing in multicultural diversity but one-culture supremacism!

Psychologists have been studying the Stockholm syndrome for years, for why a captive would fall in live with his/her captors.

A far more worthy field of study might be the Islamo-Bimbo syndrome, as to why Muslim women fall in love with being treated as a piece of properity by their Male relatives.

Pelayo,

Pained condescension and moral reproach, yes; but dehumanizing, demonizing intolerance? I don't think so.

[I'm suprised you don't label the Gospel of John antisemitic.]

And Fred Phelps is over-the-top and beyond the pale by any historic standard of Christianity--whatever he is, Christian he ain't.

Yet another example of how Christianity and Islam are not the same but exact opposites:

Christianity: Love thy neighbor. Love your enemy.

Islamist: The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way. It is acceptable to be rude to them - regardless of where you live, for they are less than us.

" The Muslim, as we see with this happy housewife of Islam, is literally stripped by Islam of every vestige of his or her identity (as evinced by this Islamic female in the interview); the person's capacity to think and feel are copmpletely and utterly destroyed too. The result is the creation of an ex-human being that has been programmed to slaughter selected members of humanity while living in an unreal world and existence--a zombie-esque killing machine without peer."

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