The jizya is flowing. But what will the recipients give the UK for all the money? An end to Islamic supremacist sentiments in Britain? Highly doubtful, since they won't even admit that Islamic supremacism exists at all.
Meanwhile, if the other religious groups in Britain want to get £70m from the government, it's an easy thing: get some of their members to blow some things up, claim that you can't work against this sort of thing without large sums of money from the government, and the cash will start flowing.
"Muslim groups get £70m to tackle extremism," by Joanna Sugden in the TimesOnline (thanks to WriterMom):
Muslim groups will receive £70 million in Government funds to help tackle extremism in "ungoverned spaces" such as internet chat rooms and snooker halls.Hazel Blears, Communities Secretary, said that the money will be targeted at Muslim communities and rejected suggestions that the funding discriminated against other faith groups.
Speaking on the Today programme on BBC Radio this morning, Ms Blears defended the Government’s decision to give the cash to Muslim rather than Christian or Jewish groups. “There is support for faiths across Government, but let’s be honest about this - what we are about is saying that we have a problem of radicalisation and extremism in a small minority of areas and communities.” Ms Blears said that it was the job of Government to support minority groups and enable them to be more resilient.
A small minority, yes, but still at least £70m big.
In a speech today the minister will make her first foray into tackling radicalisation and extremism in the community. She will announce plans to “beat the terrorists at their own game” by extending the fight against terrorism to gyms, cafes and the internet where increasingly-sophisticated techniques are used to recruit youngsters.Ms Blears said: “This is a generational issue. We have got to get to young people - five to 15-year-olds, as well as the teenagers who are currently being targeted - and strengthen their resilience, so that they can say to the extremists ’I am comfortable with being a Muslim in Britain today and I want no part of it’.”
No, it's an ideological issue, and until Blears and Co. recognize that, all the money they throw at the problem will accomplish nothing.
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this is my answer to this post.
I have a silly question.
If Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, why are we shelling out money to Muslims to tackle the problem of terrorism?
"In a speech today the minister [Hazel Blears] will make her first foray into tackling radicalisation and extremism in the community. She will announce plans to 'beat the terrorists at their own game' by extending the fight against terrorism to gyms, cafes and the internet where increasingly-sophisticated techniques are used to recruit youngsters.
Ms Blears said: 'This is a generational issue. We have got to get to young people - five to 15-year-olds, as well as the teenagers who are currently being targeted - and strengthen their resilience, so that they can say to the extremists ’I am comfortable with being a Muslim in Britain today and I want no part of it’.'"
-- from the article above, describing the nearly 200 million dollars that the British government intends to use to bribe Muslim "youths" into not engaging in violent Jihad
Karen Hughes believed in "reaching out" to "the Muslim community. Her notion of "public diplomacy" consisted of telling Muslims how very deeply we respected them,how wonderfully Muslims were being treated and succeeding in the United States, how very hard we were trying to meet Muslim demands and exhibit extreme solicitousness for Muslim sensibilities (Iftar dinners at the White House and suchlike), how very impressed we all were with Islam, the real Islam, not the false Islam that motivates all that vast yet tiny minority of extremists all over the known world who keep misunderstanding or misusing, for their own quite unclear ends, the "religion" of Islam. This meant nothing. This changed nothing in the texts of Islam, the tenets of Islam, the attitudes of Islam toward Infidels and toward the most powerful, and so far most resolute (if confused) of the Infidel powers, the United States. It was taken only as a sign of weakness that could be played upon, if expressions of Muslim victimhood continued to be offered and continued to be taken at face value rather than ignored or, even better, denounced by Infidels as farcical. For every complaint about a "war of civilizations" by Muslims should have been met with discussions of the "war that Islam has been waging for the past 1300 years on all non-Muslims," and every attempt by Muslims to focus exclusively on the supposed sins of a West, with its tranpsarently guilt-edged security, should be met by references to the 60-70 million Hindus murdered by Muslim masters in the past, or to the blacks of the southern Sudan, and the Buddhists of southern Thailand, and all the other victims of the ideology of Islam(texts, tenets, attitudes) that have nothing to do with the West.
Now comes Hazel Blears, the equivalent of Karen Hughes, and insists on spending money, throwing money at Muslims because if only they can stop hanging around street corners, and feel that they "belong to Britain" what they, and anyone else (yes, so can you, and so can any man) can read in the Qur'an, can read in the Hadith, can read in the biographies of Muhammad, about what Muslims must think and do, and to what and to whom their sole loyalty must be given, will not change. No amount of money will change that.
But Hazel Blears is determined that this reality must never be examined. It is too painful. Were she even to begin to recognize, to express a hint of recognition, that what Islam teaches, what Islam has always taught and that has always explained why Muslims felt justified in conqueriong so many non-Muslim lands, and then subjecting the vast populations, so varied, so "diverse," of Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, and others to a permanent status (in the case of those other than Christians and Jews, the alternative at first was conversion or death, and only later, to preserve the tax base -- the population of jizyah-payers --were people other than Christians and Jews allowed to survive so as to keep paying the jizyah on which their Muslim masters depended), of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity. She's just too dumb. She's not up to the task.
Who, in Great Britain, is?
Far better if they had used the 70 million to deport a bunch of muslims.
"Muslim groups get £70m to tackle extremism
Total waste of money. Guy Fawkes is coming and making a bonfire with all that cash would have been a better idea.
The Brits are hemorrhaging.
The money won't accomplish absolutely nothing. This kind of cash can buy a very lavish "anti-islamophobia" campaign -- more posters on buses; more lawsuits against media and terrorism experts willing to name the enemy. But not a single extremist will be turned in.
They should present a budget before receiving a penny, and they should be publicly audited, both as accountability for having spent according to budget, and for effectiveness toward the stated goal.
"Snooker Halls" - ???? wtf??? surely snooker is "haram" - as mixing with infidels in a place where alcohol is served is also surely haram .. it could lead to "evil and vile consequences" after all ...
.. the only thing I can think of is that its ok because its an "all male environment" (mostly) or that there are Saudi backed snooker halls that serve jihadi literature along with the soft drinks ..
Have they considered publishing a translation of the new German comic book?
Lady, something tells me you're going to have to shell out millions of pounds to all religious groups within a couple years. Heck, maybe within the year.