Projection Alert. And which American Muslim group met with the Thug-In-Chief? Do they subscribe to his view that "accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible and feasible"?
"Ahmadinejad backs from Saudi Arabia," (yes, that's the real headline), from the Iranian Students News Agency (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):
TEHRAN, Dec. 22 (ISNA)-Iran's president stepped into Tehran after a five-day trip to Saudi Arabia where he performed Hajj pilgrimage....In a meeting with the United States Muslims' community board emphasizing on the necessity of introducing Islam's truth and logic he noted that "the arrogant" have always projected their problems on the world of Islam.
Before Iraq was occupied all religions and groups were living next to each other in peace but now there are great attempts to divide them into parts, he added "the disparity between Shiites and Sunnis is an imported issue because Islam has only one simple truth."
Wherever the arrogant occupied within the territory of Islam's world they have formed a constitution based on making disparities and divisions between different religions and groups, he said.
While saying that the entity of Islam's foes is mingled with Zionists he illustrated Zionism is the common point of all Islam's enemies but "we must distinguish between Zionists and Jews."
Meanwhile the U.S. Muslims' community board presenting a report on the condition of Muslims in that country underlined Islam's role in global peace, security and justice.
Ahmadinejad referring to anyone or anything other than himself as "the arrogant" is quite comical.
How do you know when Arrogant-Ahmad is projecting?
His lips are moving.
Islam's idea of global peace, security and justice can only be acieved by the destruction of Israel and subjugation, on islamic terms, of the rest of humnity.
Something that our Labour government is already working hard at.
Ridiculous. "Before Iraq was occupied," tensions were held down by a reign of terror by a secular Sunni (with a massacre here and there, not to mention that small matter of a war in the '80s). Not the sort of thing for which we'd expect Ahmadinejad to wax nostalgic.
But that's not all. It's quite a surprise to find out the U.S. and Israel were actually around much earlier, and fomenting the Shi'ite-Sunni split: Either my history books weren't worth the paper they were printed on, or the boys in the secret government time travel lab are just outdoing themselves.
How do you know when Ahmad is lying?
When his lips are moving.
"Before Iraq was occupied all religions and groups were living next to each other in peace..."
I don't know how many times we've read, before Israel, Jews and Christians lived under Islam in peace and protective security, as though this status of historic subjugation and humiliation is somehow just.
These are the mass-murderers George W. Bush wants to feed the Jews to in order to appease his Saudi jihadist friends. President Bush is sworn to protect America from enemies both foreign and domestic. Some of Bush's best friends are America's enemies.
Only traitors violate their oath of office.
...Islam's role in global peace, security and justice. That would be funny, if it were not so seriously flawed.
...Islam has only one simple truth."
And that is, that it's a lie. That Islam is a lie, is the truth. See how simple that is?
Uh, as usual Ahmadinejad spins events to whatever is politically expedient. Has he so quickly forgotten about the Iran-Iraq War from 1980-1988? Forgotten how Iraq used chemical weapons on the Iranians? Forgotten the "war of the cities" where they bombed Tehran and Baghdad indiscriminately? Forgotten 100,000 children the Iranians used as human-waves to clear mine fields? I suppose the "Great Satan" made them do it!
Well, yeah Ahmadinejad, the sniveling anti-semite that he is, wants to distinguish between jews and zionists. Funny, not sure how "Islam's role in global peace" coincides with Israel/Zionism being the "common point of all of Islam's enemies." The truth is, wherever Islam is present, we find strife and war, ie, "Islam's Bloody Borders." There is no peace with Islam only submission. The holy grail of Islam's aggression centers on the destruction of Israel (and the United States).
This is why Iran must never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. I suppose Ahmadinejad is feeling like his boastful ole self these days after the release of the flawed NIE. The first sentence of the NIE - its conclusion - clearly over-stated the evidence. By narrowly defining the nuclear weapons program as simply "weaponizing" the nuclear material, the NIE erred. The enrichment of uranium, the last step and most difficult aspect of a weapons program, continues full-steam-ahead. The Nuke program, in effect, continues unabated and unfettered.
My personal opinion is that Israel will not let this happen, despite the U.S.'s dramatic washing our hands of the issue. Clearly, Iran wants the bomb, and has not given up its evil intentions towards Israel.
"the arrogant" have always projected their problems on the world of Islam".
Actually, nobody gave a damn about the world of Islamania until such things as palestinian whining, the Taliban and 9/11 came about. Islamania kicked the door in, so to speak, so now when the West takes notice it's the West's fault?
The illogical mentality of the Koranists just never ends.
And when things don't go the way of the Islamists, they blame everyone but themselves, in particular, the Jews.
Ahmadikajawed is a sawed off little Nazi.
"Before Iraq was occupied all religions and groups were living next to each other in peace..."
Really? Ask the tens of thousands of Iraqi Jews how they were left in peace before the "occupation". Research how the Jews of Iraq were murdered, and the remainder expelled, leaving all of their possessions behind as they fled for their lives. All of this occurred decades before American intervention. I guess all of these thousands of Jews were Zionists, the bad kind of Jew. At last estimate (before the fall of Saddam Hussein), there were fewer than one hundred Iraqi-born Jews left in a country of twenty six million.
Hey Folks...
A muslim said that Thomas Jefferson used the Cowran in writting the US Constitution. Does anyone have any information regarding this please?
Thanks...
JahFree
It's another Armanidinnerjacket moment. All hail Armanidinnerjacket, king of irony.
JahFree: The Muslim who told you that Thomas Jefferson used the Koran when writing the US Constitution was deeply confused and historically inaccurate (nothing new here for a Muslim). First of all, Jefferson had nothing to do with the writing of the Constitution. He did not attend the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787 because he was our Minister to France at the time. Second, Jefferson had a contempt for organized religion. That's why he refused to establish a department of theology at the University of Virginia, which he founded. He thought theology absolute rubbish and said so in many private letters to Benjamin Rush, Joseph Priestly, John Adams (after they pathched up their differences when old men) and others. Third, Jefferson referred to the Koran as "demonic," even though he had a copy of it in his library. Like so many other great figures in history, he knew the real worth of Islam, which is nothing, actually less than nothing.
Is that the local American Islamic Bund he spoke with?
Yes, all of those suicide bombers blowing up their fellow Muslims In Iraq are doing so because of the US. Well, now I know we've done something right in Iraq.
Wellington,
Spot on comment. Muslims regard Muhammad as a paragon of virtue so they use the same techniques of half-truths, twisted stories and outright hooey to advance their agenda.
The sorry state of state controlled education makes their task all the easier.
Projecting projection? Aren't we subtle. This is just like the dog chasing his own tail--'round and 'round we go.
Re: Ahmadinejad: "The arrogant" have always projected their problems on the world of Islam
No one has "always" projected anything on Islam. Islam is simply seen by many as a Pizarro-in Peru-style-rationalization-for-Imperialism and the destruction of indigenous cultures (India, Persians, etc.). Just as it was a bad day when Pizarro showed up in Peru, it was a bad day when the Muslims invader-killers showed up on the borders of Hindu India. The result? A sectarian violence that has made India a kind of Ireland with nukes. The people there would be better off today if it were all Hindu. The Gas-Station and Muslims generally should pay Hindu India reparations for the damage they did in the invasions and the sectarian violence still endured there because of those invasions.
Islam is totally lacking in any self-criticism on such matters. Muslims still hold on to the demented delusion that they are not part of gruesome history with their Arab and Caliphate Imperial-isms. (Only the sea nations of the West (which came late to the Imperial game) are pretended to be "imperialists").
Islam is driven by an ideological "religious" rationalization for imperialism and is predatory-supremacist. It's like Nazism, or the Spanish "Christians" in the New World (I wonder where the Spanish learned to be such pigs? Probably from the Muslim invaders of Spain.)
Give me commercial imperialism any day over them. Commercial imperialism (British style) is generally (but not always) more respectful of indigenous cultures. Commercial imperialism tends to tolerate anything that does not interfere with commerce. Islam is a cover for predatory-supremacist-dominance Imperialism.
Good jpost.com article by Christian writer on Arab Christians fleeing Bethlehem:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847405279&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Ineedajob has been getting rather mouthy again after the NIE report.
What a lovely man. Since pretty much all US Muslim groups can trace their lineage to the Muslim Brotherhood, we can be certain that descendants of the Muslim Brotherhood in the US had a tete-a-tete (tete-a-cul?) with Ahmedinejad. So which specific groups met with him? CAIR? MSA? MAS? ISNA? ICNA? All of the above? Does it matter? All for one, and one for all.
Dr. Mahdi Phd is such a cool guy. I always thought the Saudis and Sunnis were the coolest. It's so hard to decide when you want to convert to Islam, whether to go Sunni or Shia. I only see a good column for both. Nothing in the bad column. What am I missing?
How can I decide?
jewdog-
Interesting article. Toynbee in his study of civilizations points out that civilizations-cultures that are really dying increasingly rely on force to remain dominant. They are no longer creative, but look to the past and live in the past. Civilizations that are still vital tend to be more self-critical, and from that very often comes a creative response to crisis and a renaissance. If Toynbee is right, the Jihadists are not avant-garde but rear guard.
That's right Frank; the jihadists are very rear guard - Now bend over...
As per Toynbee the civilizations that are really dying tend to try and revive a past that is not real. They become very intolerant of new ideas or any criticism of their culture. The cultures that are vital (but in crisis) look for a new form of the old. The vital response is creative and not destructive-stagnant, looking to desperately revive a mythical "golden" past.
That's right Frank; the jihadists are very rear guard - Now bend over...
Posted by: jewdog at December 22, 2007 7:49 PM
No thanks man-LOL. However, I'm sure they are good at that with each other. It's very poopy-stinky.
The main Muslims connection with their Golden Age is achieved when they receate their conquests by acts of violence and intimidation.
"Ahmadinejad: "The arrogant" have always projected their problems on the world of Islam"
"Ahmadinejad: "The arrogant" have always projected their problems on the world of Islam"
It's odd how Muslims so accurately describe themselves when hurling accusations against others.
Isn't every problem besting the Islamic world a result of Western, Jewish and Christian conspiricies? Even the Crusades are still being used as an excuse for the dysfunctional world Muslims live in.
The West doesn't blame others for its problems, they analyze and solve them.
Only Muslims avoid analyzing and solving problems by accusing others of foisting problems on them.
". . .Islam has only one simple truth."
so says the puppet of the ayatollahs
You know what? He's right! One simple truth, and a whole lot of big lies. That whole long book, the Koran, with just one simple truth in it. Obviously the Islamic Almighty is very long-winded. This probably explains why Mohammad got nastier as he got older: he kept going into his trances, hoping to hear more truths, and all he got was toilet-training. No wonder he went nuts and started ordering his followers to kill people. All those sweaty trances for just one simple truth.
The West doesn't blame others for its problems, they analyze and solve them.
Only Muslims avoid analyzing and solving problems by accusing others of foisting problems on them.
by rational
That begs the question: why does the West let them get away with it?
Even if we accepted (I don't) the idea of the imperialist Crusades, hasn't the West been paid back, in spades?
At what point do we tell them to get lost and quit their whining?
I would dearly like to know the names of exactly WHICH 'American Muslims' Ahmadinejad met while he, and they, were all getting ready to march widdershins round the Kaaba in Saudi Arabia.
I would also very much like to know who else he was schmoozing with, while he was there.
I hope that various Intelligence agencies have made notes on who departed Australia, or Canada, or USA, or any other infidel land, for the hajj this year; and I hope they will be keeping a beady eye on the same people, after their return, particularly if they are 'community leaders' or 'academics' of any kind.
Adolph had the same idea the world would be a wonderful place without all the Jews,Gypsys, Homosexulals, Slavs, Mentally Ill, Free Masons etc. then it could live under the benevolent???? rule of the Nazi (MOHAMMEDAN?) masters. LOL
Adolph had the same idea the world would be a wonderful place without all the Jews,Gypsys, Homosexuals, Slavs, Mentally Ill, Free Masons, Blacks, Asians etc. then it could live under the benevolent???? rule of the Nazi (MOHAMMEDAN?) masters. LOL