Dhimmis pony up $7.4 billion in jizya for Palestinians

Money down a rat hole.

Sarkozy, please get off that teacup ride and call your office.

And remind me, what is the 7.4 billion for? How many AK-47's will that buy, or how many suicide bombers families will that provide for? Or how much of it will be funneled through nice sounding charities to subsidize jihad and the building of mosques in the European and American countryside?

Welfare..the reward for rockets.

They ran out of money to shoot rockets into civilian areas?

This makes me sick. Terrorist welfare is all this is. Pathetic leaches. The Islamic countries should be supporting them, not us. Just how do you suppose Americans are supposed to pay for our share, and when are we going to be "repayed" in oil money for Iraq stability? We NEVER do learn. It's just fine we bankrupt ourselves being the most powerful country in the world. That's a big laugh.

$500 million?

That's a half day's revenues for Saudi Arabia. That's it?

And what about Kuwait, the U.A.E., Qatar, Libya, and all the other Muslim oil states that have done nothing to deserve their fabulous wealth?

It is a great error for any Infidel state or people to supply what is seen, by Muslim recipients, and soon after comes to be treated by the Infidel donors themselves, as the due of the Muslims, owed to them by the Infidels -- in other words, a classic payment of the Jizyah.

It is madness. It infuriates. If Congress can stop this "donation" (as it is piously called) it should.

Presidential candidates of both parties should make an issue of this, the product of ignorance of Islam, the attitudes of Islam, including the triumphalism, and the desire to everywhere force Infidels to pay, in whatever form, that Jizyah (if those Infidels wish to save face by calling it "foreign aid" the Muslims don't care -- they know that the Infidels are too scared to deny Muslims this aid, and though there was a brief, uncharacteristic halt, but only to the aid to the "Palestinians" and not to Egypt, Pakistan, or that being lavished on corrupt Iraqis,the spigot has been turned on again, and the "Protected People" have tugged at their forelocks in Paris.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and John Edwards have as much right as Romney and Giuliani and Huckabee and the others to ask aloud why the Americans, having contributed more than a trillion dollars to Iraq, and hundreds of billions to Afghanistan, and $60 billion to Egypt, and $27 billion (the figure calculated by Selig Harrison) to Pakistan since 2001 alone, and billions to the "Palestinian Authority" along with other billions sent by the Europeans, many of those billions having disappeared, without a trace, when Arafat died. Where are those billions? And why is it that the "Palestinians," who have received, per capita, more than any other group, in aid, in history, should continue to receive that aid, above all when the Slow Jihad boys have semaphored or said, in every forum, that they have no intention of making a permanent peace but only a hudna, a hudna to be accompanied by demands so grotesque, so dangerous for Israel's survival, that they can never be met, and so the reason for the future breaching of that "truce treaty" is already contained in the proposals now being made?

When, that is, will the Infidels of threatened Europe begin to realize that they are no different from, just a little further down on the To-Do List, threatened Israel?

How horrible that, with ten trillion dollars having been transferred, since 1973 alone, from oil-consuming nations to the Muslim oil states, that still more billions and tens and hundreds of billions, are spent by the profligate and ignorant and timid West, in the mistaken hope that "poverty" is what makes the "Palestinians" or any other Muslm Arabs insistent on waging war. It is not "poverty." It is Islam.

The Infidels refuse to take Islam seriously. This incredible offer shows it. Utter folly. It disgusts. It maddens.

" It is Islam..."

...and Islam wants you dead....

Anyone know what that is per palestinian?

The world's biggest waste of money ever on the world's biggest waste of humanity. Those who made this happen should be subjected to a little of the sharia they are advancing-about 200 lashes ought to be fair.

$555 million, way to go U.S. how about feeding the hungry in our own country first?

"Canada is committing $300 million over the next five years to help the Palestinian government, led by President Mahmoud Abbas, achieve success in its negotiations for peace with Israel.
Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier made the announcement Monday at the Conference of Donors for the Palestinian Territories in Paris.
"Our funding is not unconditional," said Bernier. "We will need to see demonstrable progress in negotiations by both sides, as well as progress in Palestinian democratic reforms."
Bernier said the $300 million will be used to help build "security, governance and prosperity."

Yeah right. Too bad taxpayers can't designate where their hard-earned money goes. We need to improve security, governance and prosperity at home.

I agree with Robert - the Saudis should have been the only donors. This is pocket change to them.

Good to know where my taxes are going to: to support a violent medieval society of people who hate us, and will continue hating us regardless of how many money we give them.

The only thing these barbarians should get was a squadron of Cessnas droping leaflets saying "We West has been singlehandedly supporting you living on the dole for the past decades, but because you hate us and spew hatred on your national television, this is just HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WON'T GET - it is going to starving Africans instead. Cheers"

I am severely pissed. I found out a couple of days ago that during the EU-African Union summit, several African leaders ordered champagne and crate upon crate of beluga caviar from their 5-star hotel rooms... guess who is paying the tens of millon dollars bill? That stinking rich country: Portugal, obviously.

The sane thing to do would be to send them the bill, but that would be "racist", unpolite, or un-PC, and since my country is so rich that 20% of the population lives below the poverty line, and the other 80% pay the highest tax/income ratio in the EU, who gives a shit about where our money is spent?

Long live the EU dictatorship (that denied a referendum regarding the treaty of Lisbon), African cleptocrats, and Palestinian pimps.

Hell, I might dye my skin black with shoe-pollish, or wear a bomb-vest over my clothes, complain about slavery or Zionism, and start ordering my share of beluga and Don Perignon.

Hugh asked about the likes of Kuwait-why aren't they contributing? Actually, I take my hat off to those members of the ummah who contributed nothing to this fund. For once they acted intelligently-the same cannot be said of the West.

God how this burns me up!

Correction

"regardless of how MUCH money"

I put up a posting on the forum http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=3 criticising this aid given to the Palestinians, stating that this money will only be used to purchase rockets, guns and explosives which will be used to murder innocent Israelis. I pointed out that they will not be grateful for this money, that they will see it as jizya or protection money, to be expected from 'inferior infidels', and reminded them of those greenhouses that were left to the Palestinians, how they were looted for anything of value, and that they were used as starting points for tunnelling into Israel and using these tunnels to smuggle terrorists, weapons and suicide bombers into Israel, and that giving them aid is simply throwing good money after bad, and the one thing that does keep terrorism down is poverty, because poverty means they have less to invest in terrorism, and pointed out that bullets cost the Palestinians 35 cents apiece before we started giving them aid, and nowadays bullets cost them a mere two cents apiece, and let them know that I resented the idea of our taxes financing terrorism and being used to potentially bring about another Holocaust, resented the fact that we are giving our taxes to those who celebrated atrocities like 911, London, Madrid etc and that the Palestinians seek not peace but the destruction of the state of Israel. Needless to say, my posting lasted around 30 minutes before it was pulled. Such is political correctness in the West. Presumably had the Internet and the politically correct oafs of today been around in 1940, postings criticising the Nazis would also have been pulled.

more jiyaza for the pals, more babies, more guns, more time to plan attacks against isreal, more freebies. a chicken in evbery pot and a lexus in every pal garage. thanks to the clueless west.

Have the widder Arafat's accounts been searched for any monies received above and beyond her late hubby's salary? Has any serious attempt been made to recoup the sums ripped off by the PLO thugs? Is any oversight going to be adequate to prevent this from happening to the new amounts ponied up by the civilization the PLO and Hamas want to destroy?

Will any of this money flow to Hamas? How could it not?

The Hamas Charter says (excerpts):

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

"Canada is committing $300 million over the next five years to help the Palestinian government, led by President Mahmoud Abbas, achieve success in its negotiations for peace with Israel.
Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier made the announcement Monday at the Conference of Donors for the Palestinian Territories in Paris.

"Our funding is not unconditional," said Bernier. "We will need to see demonstrable progress in negotiations by both sides, as well as progress in Palestinian democratic reforms."

Bernier said the $300 million will be used to help build "security, governance and prosperity."

How are you going to measure that Mr. Bernier? A reduction to a few dozen rockets instead of hundreds? Will that be OK? How are you going to prevent those funds from going to Hamas? Just wondering.

7.4 billion??? What happened, the leaders squander their money on "broads, buicks and booze"?(the quote is from a Berkley Breathed comic strip Bloom County)

While muslims don't pay squat for their own countries because they depend on dhimmi - those same ones that they like to torture, kill and drive out of their lands. Yep, this makes me sick that MY TAX dollars go to these freaks that are STILL Lobbing bombs into Israel while they mouth the words they want peace. Yeah, peace (note sarcasm) - 1. death, 2. conversion or 3. subjugation. One day (note sarcasm) MAYBE our politicians will wake up - I won't hold my breath though.

This just makes me sick of them even more so.

Anyone know what that is per palestinian?
Posted by: MP

Exactly what I was wondering.
Makes me rage...my poor old Mother could use the money instead of some insane throwback to the 7th century. It's OUR MONEY, they are giving away.

Politicians and bureaucrats, grrrrr.

Money being fungible, we are now state sponsors of terrorism. People in Sderot would be justified in suicide bombing the U.S. Heck, the Air Force should bomb the State Department for sponsoring terrorism.

But back to reality. Israelis will pay with their lives for this repeating disaster.

How much is that per American?
B@stards

According to Daniel Pipes, most of the senior members of the PA have lost hope in the Palestinian Authority, and have left for Cairo or Amman, along with their family and possesions (ie our money).

So how is all this money going to be spent? The aid givers are too scared to venture into Gaza or the PA controlled areas, for fear of being kidnapped or worse. The EU offices have been burnt down as the EU was not playing ball as Hamas required. So what will happen is that money will be handed over to Abbas. He will then handover over a lot of it to Hamas, as they are part of a team - one to extract money from the idiot West, and the other to wage Jihad on Israel.
It is the old "hard cop soft cop" routine.

Meanwhile old people in Britain are not given enough pension money to keep their homes warm. (Brown raided UK pension funds to beggar them them).

They're laughing behind our backs right now about what fools we are. Most of it will be stolen.

I bet the British "nigel" types are pissing themselves in glee at the eventual extermination part 2 of the jewish people.

WE need a good hard government in power in the Uk to round up all those "nigels" put them to work in camps, their prison guards can be some of golders green's jewish residents.

If you really wished to improve the lifes of the Arabs who now call themselves "Palestinians," surely you would try to create the conditions in which they are forced to come to grips with the political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of their societies and would-be state. Is the best way to again and again re-supply them with fabulous amounts of aid, especially aid from Infidels, when these "Palestinians" are determined to make endless war on the one Jewish state, by whatever means prove effective, until it disappears, and are divided not on ultimate aims, but only, as between the Slow Jihadists of Fatah and the Fast Jihadists of Hamas, on tactics and timing.

Do the "Palestinians" who have been given billions and billions, with many of those billions disappearing at Arafat's death, deserve to be endlessly resupplied by Infidel taxpayers, very few of whom will be able to afford what the warlords of Fatah can afford with the aid money they skim off? Why is this a responsiblity of Infidels at all? Shouldn't we seek to show that we are not going to transfer further Infidel wealth to Muslims, and instead demand that rich Muslims pay for poor Muslims, or at least that poor Muslims demand whatever aid they are going to get should be obtained from the rich Saudis, Kuwaitis, Emiratians.

Given the amounts the "Palestinians" spend in making war, with their smuggled Qassems, and their Der-Stuermer like media (including those children's shows on "Palestinian" television where little kids sweetly sing about wanting to be suicide bombers and to massacre the "yahudin"), any sensible person would put the "Palestinians" at the very bottom of any list of those deserving of aid. Certainly they should not be receiving $7.6 billion, or $4 billion, or $1 billion, or ten dollars in aid, before many people in Africa and Latin America. And since their fellow Arabs of the Gulf have fabulous riches -- ten trillion dollars has been taken in since 1973 alone, and the known holdings of the Gulf Arabs, beyond their palazzi and every sort of luxury, include, in dollar holdings, $3.5 trillion. But they are not going to be asked to fund their fellow Muslim Arabs? Almost all of it, save for a paltry half-billion from Saudi Arabia -- a half-day's take on oil sales -- is to come from the United States, France, and other European or Asian nations. It makes no sense. It is an injustice. It is absurd.

From the article

World leaders at the conference urged Israel to ease limits on Palestinian movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, following up on a warning from the World Bank that without an easing of the sweeping physical and administrative restrictions donors may be wasting their money.

The official is quite right. The Palis will be buying/constructing rockets, ammo, bomb vests, all which will be of no avail if Israel will not open up its borders for the Palis to capitalise on their investment.

Earlier I advocated 200 lashes for those who made this possible. Forget it-even 1000 wouldn't be enough for those cretins.

"Palestine" is nothing more than Saudi Arabia's public puppet. It is continuously put forth as a "symbol of the oppressed", solely at the hands of Israel with support by the US.

Nonsense.

The cold, hard facts when one compares the Palestinian Muslims, living side by side with the Israeli Jews, as much as can be safely tolerated of course, is that the Jews prosper and the Muslims suffer.

This suffering has little to do with the Israelis and almost everything to do with Islam, and the Islamic Saudi puppetmasters who currently pull their strings in most unfortunate ways. Unfortunate to the Palestinian Muslims, but that is not the point. That is intended. It is also most unfortunate to the West and its enemy in the MSM.

Only a fool does not see this for what it is.

That being said, the global jizya should be immediately cut from all Islamic countries.

Let's see if the eating pages from the Qur'an can indeed actually feed a family.

They would do better to give me $7.4 billion to boost my economy.

At least I won't use it to murder innocent people.

I hope somebody's tallying this all up. From international freebees alone, the Palestinian GNP or whatever must be well above the international average. So much for their third world status.

The west is FOOLISH to send money to the Palestinian government. It is very likely that a good portion of this money will be stolen or else used for military purposes against Israel.

Remember the late Yasir Arafat, the largest thief in the Middle East. Arafat he was a terribly corrupt leader who was widely admired throughout Europe and the west.

Read about the thief of Palestine:

The thief of Palestine
Parts of that damning Atlantic article about Yasser Arafat can be read here.

The amounts of money stolen from the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian people through the corrupt practices of Arafat's inner circle are so staggeringly large that they may exceed one half of the total of $7 billion in foreign aid contributed to the Palestinian Authority. The biggest thief was Arafat himself. The International Monetary Fund has conservatively estimated that from 1995 to 2000 Arafat diverted $900 million from Palestinian Authority coffers, an amount that did not include the money that he and his family siphoned off through such secondary means as no-bid contracts, kickbacks, and rake-offs. A secret report prepared by an official Palestinian Authority committee headed by Arafat's cousin concluded that in 1996 alone, $326 million, or 43 percent of the state budget, had been embezzled, and that another $94 million, or 12.5 percent of the budget, went to the president's office, where it was spent at Arafat's pe rsonal discretion. An additional 35 percent of the budget went to pay for the security services, leaving a total of $73 million, or 9.5 percent of the budget, to be spent on the needs of the population of the West Bank and Gaza. The financial resources of the PLO, which may have amounted to somewhere between one and two billion dollars, were never included in the PA budget. Arafat hid his personal stash, estimated at $1 billion to $3 billion, in more than 200 separate bank accounts around the world, the majority of which have been uncovered since his death...

He was a connoisseur of power, who used the money that he stole to buy influence, to provoke or defuse conspiracies, to pay gunmen, and to collect hangers-on the way other men collect stamps or butterflies. Arafat had several advisers who oversaw the system of patronage and theft, which was convincingly outlined in a series of investigative articles by Ronen Bergman that appeared during the late 1990s in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz...

In their cities and villages Palestinians were subject to the extortion and violence of Arafat's overlapping security services, which competed among themselves for payoffs, arbitrarily arrested people and seized their land, and forced citizens to pay double or triple the price for everything from flour and gasoline to cigarettes, razor blades, and sheep feed. The fact that nearly everyone in Palestinian political life had taken something directly from Arafat's hand made it hard to criticize him; it was easier to go along...

http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/004641.html

The extortion was at every level. And that extortion explains what would seem to be otherwise inexplicable political results. For example, there is a Christian Arab village in the "West Bank" that voted, overwhelmingly, for Hamas. Why? the Israelis wondered. Why would Christians vote for an Islam-First-and-Islam-Only party, when at least with the Slow Jihadists of Fatah there was still that facade, kept up for the West, that they were engaged not in a Lesser Jihad but in a "nationalist struggle" and in that "nationalist struggle" they used, as Arafat did, the usual handful of pliant islamochristians, such as Hanan Ashrawi, and Michel Sabbagh, and Naim Ateek, to promote the supposedly "nationalist" cause of the 'Palestinians" -- disguising the Jihad, and the Islam of which that Jihad is a central duty.

Upon investigation, the Israelis discovered that that particular Christian village did one thing: it produced containers for beer. And Arafat's men, now Abu Mazen's men, the men of Fatah, would come around and demand a larger and larger cut of the profits. For Fatah has always been a criminal gang, and while the warlords take a huge cut of the "foreign aid" that Infidels provide, the footsoldiers have to make their living by extortion. And extort they did. But the men of Hamas were apparently willing to be, or at least promised the Christian inhabitants of this village that they would be, more tolerant of the beer-bottling factory (as long as the beer was only for Christian customers, and never made available to Muslims, and that, unlike the corrupt men of Fatah, would not demand one-third or one-half the profits.

And that is how a Christian village, one in which the inhabitants made their living by manufacturing something having to do with alcohol, forbidden in Islam, nonetheless voted overwhelmingly for Hamas.

That is the kind of thing that seem not to make sense. But once details are known, sense is exactly what it makes. One gang of extortionists, whose corruption is held somewhat in check by its Islam, was simply willing to win power for itself, and for Islam, by promising to be less greedy, less extortionate, than the other gang, the gang of Fatah.

That's the Muslim Middle East. That's the "Palestinians."

Where does the money go? Well, terrorism pays, and we pay for it!

Look here:

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=4282BF99-38AE-4241-AE92-E1DDC7E3D8E1

Memo to EU, UK, and US State Dept: Just because you hate Jews in no reason to continue to flush billions of dollars and euros down the 'palestinian' toilet. Better to return it to your own citizens.

Seems to me that Yasir Arafat, may his memory be erased forever, was merely a common-or-garden Muslim despot, that is, gang boss.

There are approximately 2.8 million "Palestinians" in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. Dividing the $7.4 billion among them equally (ha!), each man, woman, and child would get $2642.86 this holiday season. For example, a family of a man, his two wives, and their 8 children would receive $29,071.46.

Merry Christmas!

What's in the gift-wrapped box they got for us, and why is it ticking?

From the article:

The International Monetary Fund has conservatively estimated that from 1995 to 2000 Arafat diverted $900 million from Palestinian Authority coffers, an amount that did not include the money that he and his family siphoned off...

Those "little raisins", of which he was so fond, didn't come cheap. Someone who looked/smelled like Arafat (may his name be erased) had to pay the full price, and then some, I'm sure.

joeblough said

They would do better to give me $7.4 billion to boost my economy.

Yes. I would donate $7.3 billion of it to JW/DW.

Juxtapose the payoffs with worthy goals we are told time and again cannot be taxpayer funded because there simply has to be a limit on what the government does for its own citizens. And, I'm not advocating relieving individuals from trying to accomplish their goals on their own, but, it seems obscene to think that some American teenager will not be able to go to college because Uncle Sam insists on tax revenues earmarked for terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments.

Think of homeless people in New Orleans who couldn't afford flood insurance and are begging for another chance at a normal life. Or, after school programs to keep kids safe from drug dealers and gangs until their parents can collect them from work and escort them home.

How about more airports and runways on existing airports to make air travel safer and more efficient? Sorry, that money is earmarked for Islamic terrorist-supporting governments so that we can integrate their lunacy into the modern world and propigate the myth that capitalism is the antidote to Islamic aggression.