Britney Spears to convert to Islam?

Oh this is rich!

Well, if she covers up, I'm all for it...

I think it would be good. This spoiled, stupid, talentless, crazed and idiotic girl, a figure now of fun, of mere contempt (though some may feel pity -- a diseased pity), will merely be carrying her idiociy to one logical extreme in her Spiritual Search: the extreme of Islam. She deserves it. It deserves her.

P.S. - Uhm, I'm just waiting for the day her husband wants her circumcised... Yup, that'll be a real shocker for her...

Well, it looks like Adnan's in trouble too. Here he is wearing a very Christian cross and what looks like possible the Virgin Mary.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/adnan-ghalib/

Thank God she can't bring the kids with her!

When everyone was attacking her a year ago I predicted this would happen.

She will convert to Islam because America has abandoned her. Islam will take her like a victory in war and welcome her.

When this happens millions and millions of dollars will back her from oil money to put her in the 'limelight' again, recreate her, and be put on the stage.

Muslims will brag about it everywhere. Muslims will use her to convert young girls across America. I will even predict a new Disney contract to push her as a muslim (it is a 'win-win' for Disney and Islam, and it also scores in Europe).

And while all of this occurs the media will completely do a 180 degree change. The media will not put her down anymore. This will be for two reasons: 1) because they will want to report daily on her conversion to Islam and there will be big money backing this P.R./propaganda push, 2) and because (we all know) Islam is off limits to talk bad about in the media. If you talk bad about Islam you die.

This will be extremely profitable to Brittany and will also make her untouchable in the media, no one will say anything but positive about her.

Once this takes place and other failing/declining singers, bands, actors, and politicians see that by converting to Islam is successful expect others to follow through with it.

It will become the new 'IN' thing to do to resurrect a career. Book mark this, because you will see this happen.

On a side note: This will also automatically put her kids back in her custody. No America judge will oppose Islam, and Kevin Federline will either be 'paid off' or be threatened by Islamic followers until he gives the kids back.

Cool. She deserves it.

I can just see her record company throwing a fit over this negative publicity. It's a shame Cedars-Sinai discharged her. She would be better now if she had stayed for the intervention that was called for upon her admission.

What an ignorant little fool. She has no idea what's in store for her.

Mamas..don't let your babies grow up to marry Muslim males.

There may be a silver lining in this news, if true. She has an alchohol problem. The first time she appears to be drunk in a muslim country, the whipping or other severe punishment will be an important lesson for other American girls. Let her sacrifice herself for the greater good of the free world.

She'll need a burka to cover up her two black eyes and broken nose...let alone her rear end and back from the severe lashing she may recieve.

Let's hope Mr. Federline gets the children permanantly, and that they are safe, happy, and chaos-free.

Assalamau Laikum all,

You peoples can say what you like...Mrs. Spears has great appeal to your teenagers...

another thing they wll have noticed is that she is no longer fond of Amerike lund...

and ofcourse a lot of your female friends, sisters, daughters and grandaughters will follow suit....they will turn to muslims for their thrills ...the wild slutty disgusting woments that they are...so yes she will do her bit for Islam

I'm afraid not naseem...the minute she gets tired of being treated like a dog by her mother-in-law and other relatives, she will want to disregard Islam...then you and your friends will kill her, strengthening the argument against islam and your pedophile false prophet.

And for a period of time, we all thought K-Fed was the flakey one.

Is today April 1st?

JS, that was exactly my thought too.

If true, their loss is our gain.

Here's an interesting link on ancient texts saved to microfilm which may disprove the Koran as the "absolute word of god"...chew on this one naseem.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA15Ak03.html

This actually makes sense. For someone whose life is so out-of-control and chaotic, switching to a system that strictly regulates every facet of her life will feel reassuring. In fact, I'm guessing that this is a strong selling point for the mentally ill and the prisoners who have been brought to Islam in the past.

If she tries to leave Islam after a short time, I predict her life will be in serious danger, both from without and within.

There are many possible teaching moments for infidels to learn about Islam. This is probably too bizarre to be one of them.

I am convinced most converts to Islam are out of their minds to begin with. This sort of proves it...

This one is married too. Wonder if he will simply take Brittney as his second wife or divorce the first?

Once again my point is proven: Great talent is not equal to great intelligence.

This will drag in thousands of imitators like everything she does. But there won't be any baptisms in Riyadh during Bush's visit, oddly enough.

When she sings "hit me baby one more time" to Adnan, he will oblige her in the koranic way not the one she meant in her song.

She and the ummah deserve each other. It's a real stitch that she knows so much about islam, that she wants to incorporate a scientology priest (or whatever) into the mix. You could NOT make this crap up. Just wait until she tries to leave that roach motel of religions. Bwahahahaha. A high profile train-wreck conversion will be a real cautionary tale for other air-heads who might think islam is "cool."

"A close pal revealed that the troubled singer wants the ceremony to be conducted by a minister from the Church of Scientology, adding that her whole clan is in a state of shock."

Well this says it all..

L. Ron Hubbard, Muhammad, and Britney Spears!

It is a true sign of the end of the world!

:)

After all this time, the Nasseem still refuses to spell America correctly. Typical,blatant disrespect from a brainwashed mohammedite who, despite the obvious, is beyond repair.

Isn't Naseemike aware that the fake prophet mohammedine was a child molester, and child raper?

Naseem does know that mohammedine financed Islamike by theft, right?

Does this Troll Wonder know that when Islamists waged war, mohammedine hid behind the biggest rock he could find, and let his minions do his bidding?

Is this what Naseem is so proud of? Does mohammedine sound like a follower of a God, or the puppet of Lucifer?

Islam is a cult, born in war, and it will see its demise in war, because many of its followers, such as Troll-Wonder Naseem are just too sheepish to think on their own.

So, while the Troll Wonder is busy making ridiculous claims and dissing the U.S., her illiterate masters are doing Satan's work.

Of course he's married already, but when did that ever stop a muslim with their superior moral and family values?

A gold-digger par excellence, and it wouldn't surprise me if he is blackmailing her over pics he's taken of her.

BTW about Britney being beheaded - I thought once you convert all is forgiven.

Silvester, did you read the link that was provided?

The new mother humbly asked for forgiveness for her mistake. During her stoning, a Muslim man threw a stone at her head, which caused blood to be spattered on him (the stone thrower), so he went forward and beat her.

What could give the impression that Muslims treat Muslims with dignity or respect? "All is forgiven"? Islam is not about forgiveness. At all.

If she goes on with this and gets her a#$%s kicked ,who cares, its her life, shes over 18 ,i just have questions about how safe the kids would be on visiting days???? I think her family should baker act her until she can think straight again!!!

Posted by:AmericanTiger

Here's an interesting link on ancient texts saved to microfilm which may disprove the Koran as the "absolute word of god"...chew on this one naseem.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA15Ak03.html
Posted by: AmericanTiger

Ha Ha lol ..I thought this was sweet!

Sorry boys. grapes, no virgins
A scholar in northern Germany writes under the pseudonym of Christoph Luxenberg because, he says, his controversial views on the Quran risk provoking Muslims. He claims that chunks of it were written not in Arabic but in another ancient language, Syriac. The "virgins" promised by the Quran to Islamic martyrs, he asserts, are in fact only "grapes."
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/article_print/SB120008793352784631-lMyQjAxMDI4MDEwMjAxODI3Wj.html

No.NO lol it’s even sweeter… raisins

virgins" provided to Islamic jihadis in paradise were only raisins.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA15Ak03.html

LolLOLLOLO HA Ha

dumbass fools blowing up for a raisin..lol

Posted by Naseem:

Mrs. Spears has great appeal to your teenagers...

As she'll have to your's.

they will turn to muslims for their thrills ...the wild slutty disgusting woments that they are...so yes she will do her bit for Islam

Perfect! Then, after your sweeties see our "wild slutty disgusting woments" they'll bring home a little infectious present for you. Let's just hope penicillin is hamram… er haraam, in Islamadonia … so they'll be doin' their bit for the West too. Of course, not everything is treatable with penicillin… as I'm sure some of you will find after your ventures into "Afrike".

This makes me think of a Henny Youngman "Take my wife, please!" joke.

Britney to the Muslims would not be good. Though she is self-destructive and with little talent, she is quite popular.

(I wonder if her lack of talent is the source of emotional distress, as she compares what she knows to be true with the crowd's adulation.)

Perhaps her parents can lock her up for a few months and do what they can to dissuade the Pakistani from hanging around.

And then there are those poor children.

An interesting competition would involve your prediction: In what situation will this unhappy being find herself in mid-January 2010?

may she get everything that is coming to her by doing this crazy stunt. this will teach others the hardway what not to do.

Mizz Spears soon to be known as Mrs Islamic Hit-me-baby-one-MO-time will be for the forseeable future at least be far removed from the dangers of her many sisters shes so ignorent is of. Whom live an existance of Quranic/sharia servitude and denial in so many parts of the world.
She will live life pretty close to the one she indulges in now, paraded out from time to time like an Arabian pure bred race horse as an example of Islamic beauty (the silly mare). Used as a tool for propaganda purposes for all the ingnorent world to see and fawn.
What a coup for that non-musical cult of head-banging rage.

Here's an interesting link on ancient texts saved to microfilm which may disprove the Koran as the "absolute word of god"...chew on this one naseem.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA15Ak03.html

Yeah, chew on it and choke as you watch the entire rationale for your religion go up in smoke.

Islam can only exist in an atmosphere of ignorance.

Personally, I can't even believe that people would debate whether or not the Koran was dictated by an angel. Talk about a monumental waste of time.

Well, there is another website that shows her in all her glory. I would suspect that there are a few muslim women out there eyeing her for a clitorectomy if they saw that pic!

Seriously, I think that we are seeing one extreme to another. It seems jail time did Paris Hilton some good - too bad Spears didn't get some jail time too. I think it might have dried her up, and then straightened her up to realize that her 'spoiled brat' status doesn't do her any good in jail.

Look, even Princess Diana wanted to be with a muslim guy. The ignorance of so many is showing. We already got a series of articles on the left and their lack of speaking up against the violence that islam's koran promotes, and the members carry out. And they use the koran as the reason for their doing the violent acts.

A lot of people have married muslims. I wonder how many ended out converting or leaving. just wondering - I am sure there are no numbers on that.

Britney has even been threatening to fake her own death to start a new life with him in Pakistan.

A close pal revealed that the troubled singer wants the ceremony to be conducted by a minister from the Church of Scientology, adding that her whole clan is in a state of shock.

Britney is said to have announced her exciting news last week on a beach in Mexico, where she fled by private jet with Ghalib.

Wow.. so much material here.. so much to work with.. G-d only knows where to start..

So the papparazzo was seen wearing a Crucifix.. and Britney-thang ASSummes that anyone with a name like Ghalib must be a moslem.. maybe just maybe he isn't.. maybe just maybe.. the potential windfall of marrying this "wild slutty womens" might make it worth for him to consider 'converting' to piglam?

So they were on a beach in Mexico.. Cabo perhaps..? I wonder if they possibly ran into Tony Romo and his brain surgeon main squeeze Jessica Simpson..?

Seems like Tom was Cruising nearby which would explain the Scientology angle.

I wonder how those headhunters in Pakiland would like to welcome a Scientology wedding in their islamic paradise. Speaking of headhunters.. is Roger Clemens a moslem?

Not only is he a headhunter but he is always in a rage.. Yankee Rage Boy.. I see a huge parellel there.. Rog must be a secret Perver.. er.. revert.

I am Carswell the fortune teller [may a lovesick camel be a permanent fixture in Britney's future].

I foresee a wedding with Michael Jackson and Britney in Abu Dubai or maybe in Rattar.

They will be the future rulers of the Caliphate. May they inbree.. er.. multiply and prosper!

Amen!

"They will turn to muslims for their thrills ...the wild slutty disgusting woments that they are...so yes she will do her bit for Islam."

Oh, Please. There is nothing thrilling about Islam, except maybe for men, who commit honor killings as a form of foreplay and use Muslim women to masturbate with.

As far as Britney goes, people treat her like she's a big joke but I've thought for a long time that this kid is so lost, and because she has way too much money, is technically of age but does not have the self-restraint to get her life straightened out, she is on a one way spiral, and that's downward. Just by reading this article and watching what she's done over the past year especially, we can see that she needs help and guidance, but whatever her pain is, she appears to choose to always run away from it rather than stop, turn, face it and gain the self respect that comes along with overcoming something truly hard and knowing that you did it because of a choice you made.

This will not be a good move for her, any more than swimming in her panties, or shaving her head or doing whatever it was she did to lose her kids. Somebody needs to stop her for her own preservation. Somebody needs to love the poor kid, starting with herself. Another not-thought-out marriage isn't going to fix this. As if marriage could fix this.

She probably thinks this Muslim guy is going to save her. How can he when he can't even save himself?

they will turn to muslims for their thrills ...the wild slutty disgusting woments that they are...so yes she will do her bit for Islam
Posted by: Naseem

Yep.. just like u, nazeem.. the ONLY women who'd want to be anywhere near a smelly mohammedan would indeed be disgusting degenerate.

How insightful of u.

May alla bless u with more such moments of blessed self-awareness, nazeem.

And what a thrill they will encounter.. sweaty rancid males who'd much rather 'convert' a 12yo boy than an adult female...

Feeling left out and under-appreciated lately, nazeem?

At least in the West there are handsome young men [and sometimes even hot young females] who have a "thing" for Mrs. Robinson, if you know what I mean.

On the other hand u probably don't.

Have fun with alla.

I don't wish Islam on even Britney. She should instead meet with Tom Cruise, find out and convert to Scientology, and maybe have her next babies in a boat.

I don't want her manufacturing future Muslims, even in Pakistan

Isabella

Given what a wonderful role model her mother is - ref her lil sis with a baby inside - wishing for someone to love and guide her is probably a lost cause

No, Infidel Pride, I don't think she is. She's lost but not a lost cause. She's alive, unlike those other pretty girls that I can't get over, Amina and Sarah. Britney needs to have something to hope for. She will not get it in Islam.

Isn't Adnan Ghalib the photographer who got caught photoshopping news pictures in Lebanon during the Israeli incrusion?

Whoops, "incursion".

I just wonder what D'Souza would say, given that he blamed Islamic terrorism on the likes of Britney Spears.

"Shes been told it would be an act of insanity to marry this man"

With Britney's current mental problems, she has already been groomed as an excellent candidate for Islam. She just keeps making one destructive choice after another. Lord help her.

When she shaved her head, I knew she'd gone cukoo. Anyway, the first time she doesn't get her way in Islam, or is mistreated, she'll be taking that black curtain off so fast it's not funny.

Is that really her in the photo?

2 Thoughts

1. I believe it was Mark Steyn, in America Alone gave the example that if you don't beleive in God you will believe anything.

2. Does this guy have 3 other wives yet? If not, perhaps she can take Paris Hilton with her and they could be co-wives.

Calling Dr. Phil!

Ah, the world is becoming more Zappa-esque by the minute.

What worries me is there might be many copy-cats who might think that if Britney did it its cool. It might start a new trend...

Mrs. Spears has great appeal to your teenagers...

So, now, Britney is conveniently, not a "wild slutty disgusting woments " but a "great appeal to your teenagers". Islam, when nor murderous, is a cheap opportunist. But we know that from the unlimited friminals Islam recruits in US jails. Guess Islam does not mind kaffur "left-overs" or "rejects", just to inflate the count.

R_not said

Look, even Princess Diana wanted to be with a muslim guy.

Look, it has not yet been proven that Prince Charles has officially converted.

[the preceding was a joke]

Look, even Princess Diana wanted to be with a muslim guy.

Look, it has not yet been proven that Prince Charles has officially converted.

[the preceding was a joke]

Now that's funny!!! Hehehehehe!

Peoples, don't take Naseem too seriously; she is not herself tonight. I believe she is channeling Sybil again, or at the very least, Adam Gadahn.

If this "Vile Bodies" comedy ever really played out, Ms. Spear's attempt to then leave Islam (which would take about as long as her first marriage), and subsequent death sentence- for trying to free herself of its permanent clutches- would be highly instructive to the sleepwalking infidel world:

"Britney Under Islamic Doom Threat!"

(Tho I recommend she go for the lyrical Tao Te Ching and skip the homicidal cul de sac.)

She will stay moslem for about 10 minutes.
Can you imagine her giving up the sexy clothes?
No way.

Islam, as always, zeroes in on those who are weakest (spiritually, mentally, morally) - like jackals stalking the herd and picking off the weaklings.

Britney and Diana - both vulnerable, foolish women on public display, both targetted by seductive, plausible Muslim men.

Instead of despising and 'writing off' our 'weak links', perhaps some of us, at least, need to be trying to work out how to protect them, even how to rescue them, and more importantly, how to prevent other, less publicly visible seductions that may be going on in our high schools and universities right now.

isabellathecrusader, champ - we have to pray. We need to pray for our silly pop tarts, for all the silly teenagers who imitate them, and for all those girls in our high schools who are meeting charming Muslim boys with big dark eyes and who might end up one day as the victim of an 'honor' killing, or the mother of such a victim.

Phyllis Chesler was a Jewish princess, clever, pretty, well-educated and confident - and SHE fell for an Afghan charmer all the same, and only escaped alive by the skin of her teeth.

We've got to get that message out to ALL our girls in Infidel land - whoever you are, pop tart or trailer trash, hillbilly or mall rat - NEVER DATE A MUSLIM, NEVER MARRY A MUSLIM.

"She has an alchohol problem. The first time she appears to be drunk in a muslim country, the whipping or other severe punishment will be an important lesson for other American girls."

Like Saudi royalty, the celebrity converts and sympathizers live by their own Muslim rules. Michael Jackson almost certainly has hot and cold running little boys at his disposal. I would be amazed if he didn't.

dumbledoresarmy - You are right, and I will definitely pray for Britney and her fan club (and others like them), because I believe in the power of prayer.

dumbledoresarmy - maybe we need to start a new "Just Say NO to Muslim Men" campaign. Between the power of prayer and the power of NO, we are sure to beat this evil thing.

I think this is the natural progression of events for a young woman who has been totally objectified and hounded, driven insane by the media. I'm not saying she isn't responsible for the debaucle that is her life. My point is, after living in chaos some embrace the structure provided by strict discipline. Obviously this young woman is fragile. Her mother pimped her out and the media ... well they're freaking vultures.

Can you imagine her giving up the sexy clothes?
No way.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at January 14, 2008 11:34 PM

LOL.. you'll be surprised how quickly Burkha-Britney will embrace "modesty" in "honor-killing" Islam.

Bear in mind that this item appeared in the Daily Star, which is at the very bottom of the journalistic food chain.

Naseem:
"another thing they wll have noticed is that she is no longer fond of Amerike lund..."

You people are probably unaware that Amerike lund means American Penis. AND THIS KIND OF COMMENT CAN ONLY BE EXPECTED FROM A SEXUALLY REPRESSIVE WOMAN LIKE Naseem.

From above:

"Islam does not mind kaffur "left-overs" or "rejects",

That's correct.

Not as long as there's money, fame and fortune that come with it, to be stripped from the silly kuffar, to further the causes of Islam, because nothing else matters...

"Britney Spears to convert to Islam?"

....this would be no surprise...this dimwit has not done anything right in a long time....I think she is on a suicide mission....

"Now family friends of Adnan reckon his family would only accept Britney if she changed religion.

A friend said: "Adnan's mother and father are very religious and go to the mosque every day.

"They are strict when it comes to their religion and would never accept a non-Muslim into the family, let alone a white girl."

That says it all.

special_guest
I was referring specifically to converts to islam. Supposedly when you convert to islam, all your past sins are forgiven.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1120469512125&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Cyber_Counselor/CyberCounselingE/CyberCounselingE

I predict this phase will last about 10 minutes.

If she does, it just will further cement the notion that the typical convert to Islam as a misfit who has bottomed out in life: other than the scores of jailhouse conversions, witness Michael Jackson, Adam Gadahn and Lindh.

That leaves Cassius Clay as a bit of a head-scratcher.

Uhm, Muslim or not, polygamy is illegal in the US, and he's still married to his wife.

This is nothing more than the antics of a juvenile adult. It matters not in the real world. So what Britney converts. It's no more real than when she says she is going into rehab, or any other stated effort to improve herself. She is going to do what she wants regardless. Just like any other teenager. I don't care, nor pity her. My issue is, why is it in the news when there are far more significant issues facing us today?

From link to Hadith in article:

"By Allah, I have become pregnant."

ROTFL!

I thought Mohammed's illah had no children! According to this Hadith, however... ;)

Like all of Britney's so-called 'work' it will be;

"An act carried out in the manner of a moving picture scenario designed for people of bad taste"

Now she's got me quoting Trotsky...YUK!

I need a shower.

Brittany should get the NEEDED medical help so she can get her life back on the right tracks. Then she should go to those twelve step groups and join up. Then she should go to a good RC convent where there are comtempleted nuns so she can have time to REALLY think about her life and get back on track by TRULY coming back to repentent faith in Christ.

That's MISTER Lund to you, Naseem!

Nobody

“ Wild slutty disgusting woments” make me believe Naseem has a lund
And is is a sexually repressive male.
Joe

Naseem:
"another thing they wll have noticed is that she is no longer fond of Amerike lund..."
You people are probably unaware that Amerike lund means American Penis. AND THIS KIND OF COMMENT CAN ONLY BE EXPECTED FROM A SEXUALLY REPRESSIVE WOMAN LIKE Naseem.
Posted by: Nobody

I saw picture of this guy wearing a cross. He seems to be an oppurtunist. Remember Imran's Khan's ex-wife Jemima? She left Imran, Pakistan and Islam (not openly as she wants her head on her shoulders) the moment she came to her senses.

Muslim men prey on western women in distress and going thru a bad phase! Cunning predators - thats what Muslim men are!

Joe Schmoe,

I think you are right. But I think it's because other people use Naseem's computer and pretend to be her sometimes. Many times she speaks like a woman would, but that hasn't happened on this thread. You can tell. And she and I have a running deal and this guy who posted here, knows nothing about it, so I'd say you are correct.

Naseem makes the mistake many others do, that Hollywood represents America. HOLLYWOOD DOES NOT REPRESENT AMERICA!!! Hollywood represents effete eliteists, and weak minded losers. Real Americans; those with real lives, real jobs and minds of their own, see Hollywood merely as a source of entertainment, not as a life model. Few if any will covert to Islam just because Britney does.

That's true, Balrog. But also, Naseem believes that we would all go tip-to-ing through the tulips if the world would just submit to Sharia law. So much for Naseem's sense of reality.

Britney should convert to islam and move to saudi arabia. We won't have to look at that fool anymore.

I will send them a roll of koran toilet paper for a wedding gift.

I'll send them a roll of koran toilet paper for a wedding gift.

Well I saw Adnan's wearing a cross.So,this should spark into your mind that he is not a muslim (although his name tells)and he maybe embraced christian.Islam never teach their followers to wear cross and also behave like a sex maniac!
So,I guess if Adnan is a christian which has the same religion as yours,should this doubt of you guys continues saying Britney will turn to be a terrorist?I also believe that you guys will stop this issue since you know the guy is christian!!

Anyways,I dont think Britney will wear a burqa and start wearing underwears!That will be impossible.

Oh and I bet that this marriage will never last and she turns to be a muslim is such a propaganda!
I bet islam wouldnt want Britney to be in this religion if her intention is only to tarnish the name of islam!

Well most of you said quran is fake and false.So, I would love to know if you guys ever read and understand them?or just believing in what the internet says?
Oh yea,great talent is not equal to great intelligence.Same goes to great comments and talks not equal to great intelligence of knowledges!

"So, I would love to know if you guys ever read and understand them...Same goes to great comments and talks not equal to great intelligence of knowledges!"

Huh?

Isabellathecrusader,

U dont understand?
hmm,well my point is do you guys ever read and understand quran like all of you claimed!?!

And people here bragging saying that britney has a great talent but not equal to great intelligence.
So,i supposed most of the people here really know how to talk and comment based on unlogical fact and not based on sufficient knowledge!
PITY....

...Having great talent has little to do with Intelligence....

....there are many great football players who cannot read...

....there are great muscians who cannot do geometry or calculus...

....there are great builders of bridges who would never pass a test designed to obtain a law degree....

on the other hand....we can find common folks who can read and can recognize Islam for the sham that it is....and Muslims hate infidels who know the truth about Islam...be they intelligent, talented or just common...

Exactly..You got my point now!
great talents and skills are not equal to intelligence!a persons without knowledge can be instant rich if he got skills and develop it.no doubt about it!

But the thing matters here,are you pretty sure that common folks can really read and recognize islam?or they just crapping like they really know everything about the religion though they just got the information from internet and tv without actually doing research on it..

Which muslim will hate anyone that has actually give true colors bout islam?

Now,are those folks intelligent and talented by their comments and acts?or they just being a common....

Well Cruxes, even though the Q'uran is noxious and sorry, boring, I am working my way through it.

Would you mind commenting on the passages below? I had a discussion about this on another thread with a Muslim woman who complained that we were all a bunch of idiots, but then she wouldn't answer the questions I put to her, which I'm sure you can understand, makes me a little suspicious of what she's selling.

Do you think that the way women are treated in these passages is a good thing or bad? Are these passages embarrassing to you or do you believe this is the way we all should be treated? Are you willing to establish Islam so that Sharia rules the land or do you think you and I can peacefully co-exist?

Here you go:

004.015
YUSUFALI: If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.
PICKTHAL: As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).
SHAKIR: And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.

Let's be honest...isn't the above passage the reason Yaser Said murdered his two beautiful daughters in cold blood?

004.034
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

So you are okay with the whole wife beating thing?

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YUSUFALI: Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Al-wise.

So you think it is acceptable to give a male child two parts to a womans one part? Help me understand here because I wouldn't be interested in living in a place where this sort of nonsense is acceptable. And I certainly don;t want you bringing it here.

bellathecrusader, arguing with people like cruxes is futile. There are mountains of evidences in history and current day to day political events for all of us to see that how followers of Islam act and behave and "moderate" muslims keep mum. But they chose to be selective in hearing and acting. You can argue with a brick wall and draw some intelligent response but not from the majority of the Islam followers. How Islam improves the quality of the common man is evident from their scientific, literary and medicinal progress. Just ask what world class institutes they built where people may die to study or teach you will draw a blank. What movies, poems, stories they create you will again draw a blank. What scientific inventions from a muslim country? again a blank? what medicine they can offer to the humanity? again a blank. They are too busy in Islam to care for humanity.

Isabellathecrusader, sorry for writing your name wrongly.

Isabellathecrusader, I’m not gonna call u guys a bunch of idiots.I believe that everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. But, in the matter of religion,people should broaden their mind and doing some research instead of cursing one another. I’m not here to sell islam and telling people to embrace it.I’m an open minded person. I believe things happen for a reason..I certainly wouldn’t want to live in such places where women have no rights.I understand your question and I’m gonna answer them.Shakir’s translated version of quran had controversial issues and we cannot really rely on that.

First, we need 4 witness to testify the case. Why? Because it prevents the issue of lying and many other scandals.
Why confine them to the houses till death?
-to give them opportunity and time to think of their sins that they commited and repent!
-to make sure that the didn’t commit any other similar sins
-to prevent premarital sex which can lead to lots of problems such as unwanted child,abortion,STD’s,Aids,syphilis.
Anyways,you make this sounds like women have no rights but only to follow it! If you can really understand, this has the same function as jails! We’re no longer live in huts and caves. So each country have their own law to fight against this!

Case of Yaser Said killing his daughters is not related to religion.Its still under investigation.Well islam never teach their followers to kill their daughters. Men and women should be treated fair. Maybe he is an extremist. One of my christian friend told me that this case has nothing to do with religion. Their father might be angry because of something like having sex with guys or anyting related. But this doesn’t mean that islam stops women from being friends to men. They can be friends as long as no sexual attached and anything that goes against the religion.

Second, God creates men and women and they need each other. A man’s responsibility to protect woman. If the wife disobey the husband for no reason, yes , that is the punishment. Admonish them for certain times, if she still refuse, then, separate their beds for certain times. If she still refuse, then beat them lightly in the places that will not cause any serious injuries. And what you said is also true. But, theres always another option like divorce!
I myself certainly wouldn’t want to get beaten. So the choice I have is to ask for divorce. If the husband does not want to divorce his wife which always happen in the middle east, then its time to take legal charges. Same goes like any other religion. God never ask their followers to sit and do nothing without planning to change it!

Third, why men get more than women? I asked the same thing too before I understand all this. Men are leaders of the family, two parts for them because they got responsibility to their wives and families. While women we get one part for themselves without actually needs to think of any responsibility to feed the family like men. As I said, theres always options .You can make your own will if you don’t want to follow that.

Islam is an easy religion. They give choices and it depends to us whether we want to use it or not.
Oh yea,the other thing is quran is actually telling us about concepts of living. You can lead your life like how you want it to be but it must based on the concepts. Maybe you don’t get this.For example, physics, gravity is a concept. But to prove it, you have so many ways!

Cruxes, you've been drinking the Kool-Aid for too long, sweetheart.

It's obvious from your post that you've been brainwashed. Of course Yaser Said murdering his two girls has everything to do with religion. The only religion on the face of the earth that interprets it's book to allow for men to kill their women is Islam. And your guys keep providing evidence daily that that's what you believe.

Tell me something, do you really believe that if you committed adultery it would be acceptable for you to be locked up in a room and starved to death? C'mon, you can tell me what you really think.

Nobody, you can call me Bella if you want. And I understand that Cruxes has been brainwashed. It's just that I find it hard to believe that Muslim women can so willingly submit to a belief system that makes them so miserable. We are all human and I guarantee you, if Cruxes is living a truly Muslim life and following Islam to the letter, she is not happy. Her human nature, just like mine, wouldn't allow her to be.

"I certainly wouldn’t want to live in such places where women have no rights

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What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...

A Woman's Worth Relative to a Man's

Question:
Does Islam teach that a woman is worth less than a man?

Summary Answer:
Absolutely. The only debatable point is by what degree.

The Qur'an:
Sura (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also Sura (4:176)).

Sura (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women"

Sura (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Sura (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands if there is no water to purify them following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Sura (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye.

Sura (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse, which it has been used historically to justify. If this is what Muhammad meant, however, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Sura (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four"

Sura (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Sura (4:24) and Sura (33:52) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (6:301) - "[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'"

Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad said] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'" Allah has made women deficient in the practice of their religion as well, by giving them menstrual cycles.

Bukhari (2:28) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven ever mentioned by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).

Bukhari (62:81) - "The Prophet said: "'The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).'" In other words, the most important thing that a woman brings to a marriage is between her legs.

Bukhari (62:58) - A woman presents herself in marriage to Muhammad, but he does not find her attractive, so he "donates" her on the spot to another man.

Abu Dawud (2:704) - "...the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw."

Ishaq 593 - "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another." - Even in this world, Muhammad treated women like party favors, handing out slave girls to his cronies for sex.

Ishaq 969 - "Men were to lay injunctions on women lightly, for they were prisoners of men and had no control over their persons." - This same text also justifies beating women for flirting.

Additional Notes:

The fourth Caliph, who was Muhammad's son-in-law and cousin, said just a few years after the prophet's death that "The entire woman is an evil. And what is worse is that it is a necessary evil."

A traditional Islamic saying is that, "A woman's heaven is beneath her husband's feet."

The revered Islamic scholar, al-Ghazali, who has been called 'the greatest Muslim after Muhammad,' writes that the role of a Muslim woman is to "stay at home and get on with her sewing. She should not go out often, she must not be well-informed, nor must she be communicative with her neighbors and only visit them when absolutely necessary; she should take care of her husband... and seek to satisfy him in everything... Her sole worry should be her virtue... She should be clean and ready to satisfy her husband's sexual needs at any moment." [as quoted from Ibn Warraq]

The many opportunities denied women under Islamic law, from giving equal testimony in court to having the right to exclude other wives from their marital bed, is very clear proof that women are of lesser value then men in Islam. Muslim women are not even free to marry outside the faith without being killed by their own families.

Islamic law also specifies that when a woman is murdered by a man, her family is owed only half as much "blood money" as they would be if she had been a man.

Although a man retains custody of his children in the event of his wife's death, a non-Muslim woman will automatically lose custody of her children in the event of her husband's death unless she converts to Islam or marries a male relative of within his family. Even the rights of Muslim mothers are subordinate to her husband's family.

Contemporary Muslims like to counter that Arabs treated women as camels prior to Muhammad. This is somewhat questionable, given that Muhammad's first wife was a wealthy woman who owned property and ran a successful business prior to ever meeting him. She was even his boss... (although we're sure that changed after the marriage).

At best, Islam elevates the status of a woman to somewhere between that of a camel and a man.

The immutable, ever-relevant Qur'an explicitly permits women to be kept as sex slaves, and this is hardly something in which Muslims can take pride.
What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...

Wife-Beating

Question:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?

Summary Answer:
Yes, but only if she doesn't do as he asks. The beating must cease if the woman complies with her husband's demands. Beating is also intended to be the last resort, behind verbal abuse and abandonment.

Muhammad, himself, is recorded as physically striking his favorite wife (from her own testimony). It is not known how he treated his less-favored wives.

The Qur'an:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said : Many women have gone round Muhammad’s family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you." At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place.

Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

Ishaq 969 - Commands that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.

Additional Notes:

Muslim apologists often squirm over this relatively straightforward Qur'an verse (4:34). Their masterful aerobics of denial inspired us to write an article:

Wife Beating- Good Enough for Muhammad, Good Enough for You

According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:

- She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (ie. "let's herself go")

- She refuses to meet his sexual demands

- She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"

- She neglects her religious duties

Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.

Finally, when Muslim apologists sometimes say that Muhammad commanded that women not be harmed, they are actually basing this on what he said before or during battle, such as in Bukhari (59:447), when Muhammad orders that all the men of Quraiza be killed and the women and children be taken as slaves. (Having your husband murdered and being forced into sexual slavery apparently doesn't qualify as "harm" under the Islamic model).

But, in fact, there are a number of cases in which Muhammad did have women killed in the most brutal fashion. One was Asma bint Marwan, a mother or five, who wrote a poem criticizing the Medinans for accepting Muhammad after he had ordered the murder of an elderly man. In this case, the prophet's assassins literally pulled a sleeping infant from her breast and stabbed her to death.

After taking Mecca in 630, Muhammad also ordered the murder of a slave girl who had merely made up songs mocking him. The Hadith are rife as well with accounts of women planted in the ground on Muhammad's command and pelted to death with stones for sexual immorality.

In summary, according to both the Qur'an and Hadith, a woman may indeed have physical harm done to her if the circumstances warrant, with one such allowance being in the case of disobedience. This certainly does not mean that all Muslim men beat their wives, only that Islam allows them.

What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...

Women Covering Themselves

Question:
Does Islam require women to cover themselves?

Summary Answer:
Yes. The reason is that it is supposed to curb the sexual appetites of passing men when women travel outside the home. Women are also not allowed to travel by themselves, or be alone with a man who is not a relative.

The Qur'an:
Sura (24:31) - Commands women to "draw their headscarves" over their neckline as well.

Sura (33:59) - "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..."

Sura (24:31) - "And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known." The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (6:321) - Muhammad is asked whether it is right for a young woman to leave her house without a veil. He replies, "She should cover herself with the veil of her companion."

Bukhari (60:282) - After Muhammad issued the command (Sura 24:31) for women to cover themselves, the women responded by tearing up sheets to cover their faces.

Abu Dawud (2:641) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a veil.

Bukhari (52:250) - [The Prophet said] "It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman, and no lady should travel except with a Muhram (i.e. her husband or a person whom she cannot marry in any case for ever; e.g. her father, brother, etc.)." - Neither is a woman allowed to travel by herself.

Additional Notes:

Islamic law (Sharia) clearly requires women to cover themselves. The degree of covering varies with how seriously a Muslim government interprets this, with the Taliban's Afghanistan at one extreme (requiring full burqas) and moderate governments such as Turkey and Tunisia (actually banning headscarves in public buildings) at the other.

The head covering is interpreted as a symbol of male domination by most critics outside the faith, and by many Muslim women, who have been fighting for the right to dress as they please. In December of 2007, a father in Canada beat his 16-year-old daughter to death for refusing to wear the hijab (headscarf).

Some insist that the veil is not mandated by the religion, although they do not have anything within the sacred texts to counter the passages in which Muhammad instructed its use. In fact, verse 24:60 says that the veil is only optional for unmarried women who are too old to have children, and even then the freedom to uncover the head is discouraged.

There are also many Muslim women who have come to rely on the veil as a protection against unwanted male attention. Some even describe it as 'liberating.'

In the West, the veil is gradually becoming a chic statement of political protest. Veils and burqas are becoming more common in Muslim countries with the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism.

...bottom line....Islam hates women...

"I certainly wouldn’t want to live in such places where women have no rights."

Good point, Exsgtbrown. Cruxes has never lived in a Muslim country apparently, so she sees Islam through rose colored, western glasses. A three month stay in Egypt ought to do the trick.

Isabellathecrusader and exsgtbrown, I live in a muslim country where the leader is also a muslim. And yet I live happily with many other races and religions. I had my freedom and I had my rights. People here respects me as a woman. Nobody says anything about the way I dressed, nobody ever stop me to be friends with anyone[male or female]. I can speak whatever I have in mind. And this is the way I live since I was born and indeed I’m happy with my life! And its an Islamic country! So I gain my respect and I certainly don’t believe that islam hates women! For me islam protects women!!

The Qur'an and Sunnah are the only two mediums by which Allah has directly taught us about Islam. This leads us to the following simple but critical principle:
If any man or woman engages in a belief or action which clearly contradicts the Qur'an or Sunnah, then that belief or action cannot be thought of as `Islamic'.This rule applies whether the man or woman is Muslim or non-Muslim. Hence, we cannot equate Islam and the Muslims. Islam is the way of life; Muslims are people who claim to follow that way of life. A Muslim may claim to follow Islam, but be wrong. In the context of misconceptions, we can restate the above principle in a slightly different way:
Some misconceptions about Islam are due to the wrong beliefs and actions of Muslims, and others are due to a significant lack of understanding and false stereotyping by non-Muslims.

This are all your misconceptions including narrowing your mind thinking that only arab is muslims. And all muslims have the same lifestyle as those arabs! In every religion theres always extremist! And never compare a muslim to another muslim because they may have the same religion but they might lead it in a wrong ways. Same goes to other religions too!!!

Misconceptions:-
1) Islam is `the religion of peace' because:
- the Arabic word Islam is derived from the Arabic word "Al-Salaam" which means peace.
It might seem strange to think of this as a misconception, but in fact it is. The root word of Islam is "al-silm" which means "submission" or "surrender." It is understood to mean "submission to Allah." In spite of whatever noble intention has caused many a Muslim to claim that Islam is derived primarily from peace, this is not true. Allah says in the Qur'an (translated):
[2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered. [Arabic "Muslimoon"]
A secondary root of Islam may be "Al-Salaam" (peace), however the text of the Qur'an makes it clear that Allah has clearly intended the focus of this way of life to be submission to Him. This entails submission to Him at all times, in times of peace, war, ease, or difficulty.

2) In Islam, women are inferior to men because:
-a man can marry up to 4 wives, a woman can marry only one man
-a man's share of inheritance is bigger than a woman's
-a man can marry a non-Muslim, a woman cannot
-women must wear the veil
This widely held misconception does not remotely follow from the reasons given. The first and most important observation to make about the popular question "Are men and women equal?" is that it is a badly-formed, unanswerable question. The problem which many people conveniently ignore is that "equal" is not defined. This is a very critical point: the equality must be specified with respect to some measurable property.
For example, women on average are superior to men if we ask who is shorter in height than the other ("Growth and Development", Encyclopedia Britannica, 1992). Women are also superior on average if we ask whom do children bond to deeper, mothers or fathers. Women are also superior on average if we ask who has a tendency to socialize more. On the other hand, men are superior on average if we ask who is taller in height than the other. And so on: every question can be turned around, and more importantly these are properties which are irrelevant.
What then, is the really important property which we are worried about in terms of gender equality? Naturally, from the point of view of the Qur'an and Sunnah, the obvious important property is who is dearer to Allah, men or women? This question is emphatically answered in the Qur'an (translation),
[4:124] If any do deeds of righteousness - be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Paradise, and not the least injustice will be done to them.
[33:35] For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for truthful men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward.
The Qur'an and Sunnah repeat over and over again that Allah only favors one person over another based on that person's awareness, consciousness, fear, love, and hope of Allah (taqwa) All other criteria are excluded: gender, ethnic group, country, ancestry, etc.

Given that Allah does not favor one gender over the other in His attention to us (and it helps to remember that Allah is neither male nor female), we can now address the differences between the genders in Islam. First, men and women are not the same as we know. The Creator states in the Qur'an (translation),

[3:36]...and the male is not like the female...
Men and women are different in their composition, and in their responsibilities under Islam. However, both are bound by obligations to one another, especially the following important one which must be understood in any discussion on men and women. From the Qur'an (translation),
[24:32] And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves; if they are needy, Allah will make them free from want out of His grace; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.
In this verse, the Creator emphasizes that marriage is to be vigorously pursued by the Muslims: the state of being single is not to be maintained. With this in mind, we can begin to understand the four reasons cited above for the nonetheless erroneous conclusion.

Men and women are different in their responsibilities towards the families that they are strongly encouraged to set up. Women are not obligated to work, whereas men are obligated. The man must provide for the family, but the woman does not have to spend out of her money for it, though she gets a reward for doing so. Allah says in the Qur'an (translation),

[4:34] Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

From the Sunnah, specifically in the study of the Sunnah called Sahih Bukhari:
[2:24:545] Narrated `Amr bin Al-Harith: Zainab, the wife of `Abdullah said, "I was in the Mosque and saw the Prophet (p.b.u.h) saying, `O women ! Give alms even from your ornaments.' " Zainab used to provide for `Abdullah and those orphans who were under her protection. So she said to `Abdullah, "Will you ask Allah's Apostle whether it will be sufficient for me to spend part of the Zakat on you and the orphans who are under my protection?" He replied "Will you yourself ask Allah's Apostle ?" (Zainab added): So I went to the Prophet and I saw there an Ansari woman who was standing at the door (of the Prophet ) with a similar problem as mine. Bilal passed by us and we asked him, `Ask the Prophet whether it is permissible for me to spend (the Zakat) on my husband and the orphans under my protection.' And we requested Bilal not to inform the Prophet about us. So Bilal went inside and asked the Prophet regarding our problem. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked, "Who are those two?" Bilal replied that she was Zainab. The Prophet said, "Which Zainab?" Bilal said, "The wife of `Adullah (bin Masud)." The Prophet said, "Yes, (it is sufficient for her) and she will receive a double rewards (for that): One for helping relatives, and the other for giving Zakat."

Given that husbands are obligated to provide for wives, and that marriage is a highly recommended goal of Islam, it is easy to see why women's inheritance share is half that of men. We note also that men are obligated to provide a suitable dowry to women on marriage. In fact, it is preferable at this point to speak in terms of husbands and wives instead of men and women. Allah says in the Qur'an (translation),

[4:4] And give women their dowries as a free gift, but if they of themselves be pleased to give up to you a portion of it, then eat it with enjoyment and with wholesome result.
Allah says in the Qur'an (translation),

[2:228]...And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them...

This one degree in no way affects the position of the Creator in which He has stated that He does not hold women dearer to him than men, or vice versa. Rather it is simply a way of partitioning responsibilities in a household of two adults: someone must make the final decision on daily matters. As will be shown below in a section on a different misconception, though the final decision rests with the husband, it is through mutual consultation that decisions are best reached at.

While men are allowed to marry up to four wives, they are also commanded to meet the preconditions of being able to financially support them. They must also deal with each wife justly and fairly with respect to marital and economic obligations. Allah says in the Qur'an (translation),

[4:3] If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

Moreover, women are allowed to reject any marriage proposal made to her by prospective suitors, thus if she does not feel she can abide by the rules of the Qur'an and Sunnah if she marries a certain person, she can reject his proposal,this is one of the ways islam honoured the women is by giving her the right to choose her husband. Her parents have no right to force her to marry someone she dislikes. The Muslim woman knows this right, but she does not reject the advice and guidance of her parents when a potential suitor comes along, because they have her best interests at heart, and they have more experience of life and people. At the same time, she does not forego this right because of her father's wishes that may make him force his daughter into a marriage with someone she dislikes.

While it is irrelevant to Islam, it is worthwhile to note that both Judaism and Christianity allow polygamy. The idea is not as foreign to the non-Muslims as is often claimed.

Finally, the wearing of the veil by women is also an illogical premise to claim that women are inferior to men. It is more appropriate to indict a society of female exploitation if it tolerates pornography rather than if it enforces the veil. Given that Allah is neither male nor female, given that He does not endear people to Himself based on their gender, given that the Creator cares about all of us male or female, given that the sexual and violent drive of men is stronger than that of women...given all this, it is illogical to cast a negative light on the following injunctions contained in the Qur'an (translation),

[33:59] O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not be annoyed...
[24:30-31] Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands...

On this misconception, there is a great deal more to write, most of it showing how current practices in many Muslim lands go against what the Qur'an and Sunnah have ordained, lands in which women are treated as property (unIslamic), are not educated (unIslamic), are forbidden their economic rights (unIslamic), and more. On this point in particular, we encourage everyone to consult the Qur'an and Sunnah before incriminating Islam. Always remember that Islam is a complete way of life from the Creator, and that Muslims are people who claim to follow that way of life. A Muslim may claim to follow Islam, but be wrong..

And that is what you guys are wrong in telling women got no rights! Women have their own options and they can decide their own lives.Its all up to them!

3) Islam is well-suited only to the Arabs because:
- most Muslims are Arabs
- the Qur'an is in Arabic
The first reason for this misconception is far from the truth. Of the more than one billion Muslims around the world, only 18% are Arab. The most populous Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. The second most populous Muslim country is Bangladesh. Neither of these countries is Arab. Islam is the fastest growing major religion in the world (Encyclopedia Britannica). It has adherents on all the populated continents, and is accessible to Arabs and non-Arabs alike. In the United States, Muslims are expected to become the largest religious minority around the turn of the century, outstripping the Jews.
The universal appeal of Islam to Arabs and non-Arabs comes in spite of the Qur'an being in Arabic. Allah states in the Qur'an that this way of life called Islam is for all people (translation follows),

[21:107] And We (Allah) have not sent you (Muhammad) but as a mercy to the worlds.
[34:28] We have not sent you but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not.

Moreover, the Creator does not use the color or mother tongue of people to judge them, be they Arab or not. Instead, it is the level of their awareness of Allah which is the criterion,

[49:13] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)."

The choice of Arabic as the language of the Qur'an is explained very simply and clearly (translation follows),
[41:44] And if We (Allah) had made it a Qur'an in a foreign tongue, they would certainly have said: "Why have not its communications been made clear? What! a foreign (tongue) and an Arab!" Say: It is, to those who believe, a guidance and a healing; and (as for) those who do not believe, there is a heaviness in their ears and it is obscure to them; these shall be called to from a far-off place.

However, it is also important to emphasize that the Qur'an in its revealed form in Arabic is the literal Word of the Creator - but any translation is not. Each translation is more accurately called a translation of an interpretation, for every translator includes his or her own bias.
And correction, mostly cases like killing and beating relates to arab not muslim!

The originality of arab based on histories telling that they beat ,kill ,and hates women because it symbolized shameful and embarrassment . This happens before they embrace islam, which means they’re still under Christian and also other religion. So, you should have said beating and killing happens in Arabic lifestyle instead of telling it’s an Islamic lifestyle!! And try to change the picture in the westerns point of views telling that muslim are arabs. And in Egypt itself or many other arab countries in the world , there are Christian followers who are arab. But why when they beat,kill and even rape women, no one ever talks about it??

to exsgtbrown, you are really love to insult islam don`t you. is your religion allowed and encouraged
you to insult others religion?

Well Cruxes, you've explained your beliefs eloquently, as most Muslims do when trying to convince the rest of us that your way is the way to go. But I have my own beliefs and I find your's inferior to mine. This would not be a problem if you wanted to practice your religion and beliefs and leave the rest of us alone, but your book plainly states that jihad is incumbent on every Muslim, and part of Islam is to spread it throughout the globe and establish a world Caliphate where there is no religion but Islam. You are allowed to invite, to subjugate and as a last resort, kill those who oppose your desires. So as long as you believe these things and are committed to spreading your beliefs, you are my enemy and I will do everything in my power to undermine your position and fight you at every turn. You do not denounce these things and you cannot, if you are to practice your faith the way your prophet admonishes you to. So we will either have a world with Islam and no freedom or a world with freedom, that constantly battles Islam. And those of us who value freedom and the true God have no choice but to fight you.

Every time one of you commits an honor killing or rapes a woman and then accuses her of committing adultery, every time one of you blows yourself up and screams Allahu Akbar as you kill people who aren't Muslims, every time you marry off an underage girl to a middle aged man, every time we read about Muslims being caught with plans and/or explosives or materials to make a bomb to blow up a military base or a monument or something of value to us, you reinforce our negative beliefs about you. And you've been doing it with such determination and frequency now that you can't deny it. We know it is not African Animists or Chinese Buddhists or French Catholics who do these things for Allah. Only Muslims do. In your effort to make yourselves the masters of the world you have become the most hated people on the face of the earth. And there are many, many of us who don't feel guilty when you whine and don't believe you when you lie, and are not susceptible to the B.S. you ladle on the bleeding hearts.

So continue to share your taqiyah and we'll continue to stand for what we believe in, and if it comes down to a war, we'll fight you with everything we have and everything we are. And we will prevail, because unfortunately, you've awakened a sense of righteous indignation in those of us who have the courage, brains and ability to see what you are up to and recognize that what you're selling isn't anything we want, and what we've got, is worth fighting for.

cruxes, instead of quoting from the Holy Book, why don't you quote statistics? How many women are in government jobs? HOW MANY IN POLITICS? How many are doctors? Engineers? In management? Air hostages? Actresses? Writers? teachers? Nurses? Poetesses? Social workers? IT-professionals? Scientists? How many institutes your country have were girls get professional education?