"By Allah I will avenge your death"

"They also discovered pictures of bin Laden, maps of Fort Dix, memos about New York's drinking water supply and letters that bemoaned the fall of the Taliban and railed against the evils of America."

More on this story. "Secret Al Qaeda Terrorist to be Sentenced in New York," from AP (thanks to BW):

NEW YORK — He pleaded guilty more than five years ago to plotting bomb attacks on American embassies, but the case against Al Qaeda member Mohammed Mansour Jabarah has been shrouded in secrecy until now.

Jabarah was to emerge from the shadows Friday to be sentenced, likely to life in prison, for his brief career in terror. It included training with Usama bin Laden in Afghanistan and unsuccessfully planning to bomb embassies in the Philippines and Singapore, prosecutors said in court papers.

The Canadian citizen's appearance in a Manhattan courtroom will be his first time in public since his detention in 2002. Thursday marked the first time the court system made public any details of his case, which has been under seal since his arrest.

Prosecutors said there was a good reason for the secrecy.

Jabarah, 26, initially worked as a government informant after he was brought to the U.S. from Canada in 2002 after his capture in Jordan. He pleaded guilty to the terror charges that summer in a secret proceeding, without mounting a defense, and briefly lived in an FBI-arranged housing facility rather than a prison while he worked as a collaborator.

"Jabarah was extensively debriefed by the FBI and prosecutors and provided a considerable amount of valuable intelligence," prosecutors said in court papers.

That changed, authorities said, when agents searched his quarters and found weapons, bomb-making instructions and materials suggesting he intended to murder some of the agents with whom he was dealing.

He was transferred to a federal detention center in Manhattan and spent the next four years isolated in a cell where he was under video surveillance 24 hours a day. He was moved to a different prison in 2006. Talks to renew his cooperation broke down....

Court records show Jabarah was a major coordinator of a plot to bomb embassies in Manila and Singapore, but the attacks were foiled in December 2001. Jabarah was arrested after fleeing to Oman, Jordan, and was deported to Canada, where he agreed to plead guilty in the U.S. and provide information about other terrorists....

Agents found a newspaper article about the armed attackers in Jabarah's quarters, with a handwritten note at the top: "By Allah I will avenge your death."

They also discovered pictures of bin Laden, maps of Fort Dix, memos about New York's drinking water supply and letters that bemoaned the fall of the Taliban and railed against the evils of America.

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..isn't he the picture of sunshine....

Our neighbor to the north: The Islamic Republic of Canada. Big pro-Hezbollah demonstration in Montreal last year. Very liberal immigration policy in Canada, or should I say, very stupid.

"By Allah I will avenge your death."

See, it's just a matter of time before he goes on his much anticipated killing spree, so why not execute him now because he is not the least bit rehabilitated.

Sure, house and feed this monster only to make him fatter and more on-fire for allah, because in the end he will have his blood so he can get his virgins.

This is not your average murderer/criminal. This is someone with a deeply rooted agenda and a need to cash in on his virgins - don't you dare mess with a man and his virgins!

Ignorant bloke.

Jewho69:

The crust of your guilt is showing.
No Jew or Christian is acting on such prescriptions that you have penned.

Most of this theology was rendered mute upon the Christ coming into the world and his example gave Christians the way to live one's life and killing others is not part of the prescription.

The Islamists in thousands are acting out, as is this barbarian, the proposition to eliminate all that is not Muslim. The peaceful early Muslim theology has been superseded by later passages as quoted by the Jiahdists that inspire murder and conquest and punishment for non believers.

So sell your guilt to someone else and pick up a copy of the Koran. You will find many inspirational quotes that inspired the likes of this human mutation that is being sentenced.

Jewwho69 (troll?) Can't speak for those of the Jewish faith, but the ideal Christian would live peacefully in imitation of the Christ. The scripture quoted comes from the Old Testament. I have never met any Jewish folks who would take it literally. Personally, I'm a very poor example of Christianity and have a difficult time turning the other cheek.

"He was transferred to a federal detention center in Manhattan and spent the next four years isolated in a cell where he was under video surveillance 24 hours a day."

I understand that the Canadian government has defined solitary confinement as a form of torture. Does Canada want this guy back?

Jewwho69 states: "Kill those of other faiths. Deuteronomy 12:30"

Huh? I don't what kind of translation you are reading from, pal, but that is not what my Bible states:

Deuteronomy 12:30, "beware that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?"

Hmm....sounds to me like God is warning His people against folks like you.....

And as to the other "passages" that you have provided, you failed to mention which Book they are from (with the exception of Exodus 31:14), so your list is hardly a reliable source of information; which is further proven by your other bogus scripture reference.

"that is fine but we should look at ourselves before looking at others."

Posted by: jewwho69 at January 18, 2008 12:05 PM

Shoddy references accompanying your shoddy argument. If Jews and/or Christians were acting in kind and cvlaimed justiofication from the Old Testament, you might have a point. All it would take for that, however, is a suspension of reality.

In the future, please refrain from referring to yourself and any Jew or Christian as "ourselves". I can assure you that I and many others share no commonality with nor feel any kinship towards, yourself.

So he (Jabarah) came over to our side for a breif while, and he still turned on the United States. WEll well well.

Jewho69:
I am always amazed at how much time people like you spend studying the Bible.

Keep reading it, it's bound to help your soul.

It literally saved my life to read it last summer. I was reading and the man next door to the place I was renting temporarily went on a shooting spree against his family. He was running around in the yard with a gun right outside the window I sat by and I didn't hear a thing. I can't explain why I didn't notice a thing even when the cops and SWAT team showed up. other than it was really interesting reading.
When I finally looked out they had him handcuffed, face down on the ground.

Keep on reading. BTW it's called Christianity for a reason. Let us know when you find out why, in the Old Testament, that is.

Briars wrote:

"Jewho69:

The crust of your guilt is showing.
No Jew or Christian is acting on such prescriptions that you have penned."

Brirars,

Your observation is very probably correct to some degree.

However, what jewwho69 posted above are verbatim quotes from the SAB (Skeptic's Annotated Bible), particularly the page on Psalms.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/cr_list.html

The SAB is the "bible" for all God-haters and their ilk.

Briars wrote:

"Jewho69:

The crust of your guilt is showing.
No Jew or Christian is acting on such prescriptions that you have penned."

Briars,

Your observation is very probably correct to some degree.

However, what jewwho69 posted above are verbatim quotes from the SAB (Skeptic's Annotated Bible), particularly the page on Psalms.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/cr_list.html

The SAB is the "bible" for all God-haters and their ilk.

I just saw it of Foxnews.
This guy got LIFE!

YEAH!

Jewdog
"The Islamic Republic of Canada"
Perhaps you should have a look in your own backyard before denigrating another country.
Got it.

Other religions kill, too.”

The Muslim Game:

Bringing other religions down to the level of Islam is one of the most popular strategies of Muslim apologists when confronted with the spectacle of Islamic violence. Remember Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber? Why pick on Islam if other religions have the same problems?

The Truth:

Because they don’t.

Regardless of what his birth certificate may or may not have said, Timothy McVeigh was not a religious man. At no time did he credit his deeds to religion, quote Bible verses, or claim that he killed for God.

The so-called “members of other faiths” alluded to by Muslims are nearly always just nominal members who have no active involvement. They are neither inspired by, nor do they credit religion as Muslim terrorists do, and this is what makes it a very different matter.

Islam is associated with Islamic terrorism because that is the association that the terrorists themselves choose to make.

Muslims who compare crime committed by people who happen to be nominal members of other religions to religious terror committed explicitly in the name of Islam are comparing apples to oranges.

Yes, some of the abortion clinic bombers were religious (as Muslims enjoy pointing out), but consider the scope of the problem. There were five deadly attacks over a 35 year period in the U.S. Seven people died. This is an average of one death every five years.

By contrast, Islamic terrorists staged nearly ten thousand deadly attacks in just the six years following September 11th, 2001. If one goes back to 1971, when Muslim armies in Bangladesh began the mass slaughter of Hindus, through the years of Jihad in the Sudan, Kashmir and Algeria, and the present-day Sunni-Shia violence in Iraq, the number of innocents killed in the name of Islam probably exceeds five million over this same period.

In the last six years, there have been perhaps a dozen or so religiously-inspired killings by people of all other faiths combined. No other religion produces the killing sprees that Islam does nearly every day of the year. Neither do they have verses in their holy texts that arguably support it. Nor do they have large groups across the globe dedicated to the mass murder of people who worship a different god, as the broader community of believers struggles with ambivalence and a radical clergy that supports the terror.

Muslims may like to pretend that other religions are just as subject to "misinterpretation" as is their “perfect” one, but the reality speaks of something far worse.

Awesome. Third post and we get more idiocy about Islamic Canada being a huge threat to the US.

Robert, you've really got to start deleting these posts. They're incredibly dumb, especially when we've got a PM calling a spade a spade where Islam is concerned, while Bush is publicly groveling before his Saudi masters.

I'm about to just stop visiting the site. This stuff is incredibly offensive to me, when we should be all on the same side.

OutOfAqaba,

As Robert has noted several times he does not monitor all that is posted. If he does find things over the line he has removed them.

I personally do not know if the accusation is correct of not with regard to Canada. I hope you are correct. I too also strongly disagree with Bush's policy because he does not who the enemy is. I will do some searching on the subject. If you could provide links to statements that have been made by your PM or the government that would help clear the air.

In many ways we are becoming an Islamic USA as well.

OutOfAqaba,

I found two links on the net regarding Canadian views of Islam that I think are interesting. I did find a lot of Pro-Islamic sites dealing with activities in Canada. I also realize that there are probably twice as many sites in the US.

Canadian Censorship deals with a radio talk show that had Mr Winn author of Prophet of Doom.

The Explanation We Never Heard is about a professor who went to Iran for the conference about the Holocaust. Interesting reading (have not finished it).

So, that is what I have found. I realize they are only two but like the US there are a lot of deniers about.

I agree with the above commenters. USA and Canada are very much in the same boat. Both are caving in, in their own ways.

Just as alarming, is that the US is substantially owned by the Saudis, banking included, and growing.

The US national debt is held by major foreign powers, China, Saudi Arabia, etc. etc. amounting to massive amounts of money. In return the US is arming Saudi Arabia to the hilt with new smart weapons while in the meantime the oil addiction lives on, unchecked. Dhimmitude, wanted, intended, or not, is taking America apart.

And, PC, wanted, intended, or not, is taking Canada apart. Piece by piece.

Each have unique problems that are really quite serious for both.

It's Dhimmitude & PC, Infidels!

Stand together or fall together.

That changed, authorities said, when agents searched his quarters and found weapons, bomb-making instructions and materials suggesting he intended to murder some of the agents with whom he was dealing.

You can tell when a muslim is lying, they are still standing!!!

Now let me get this straight. We have members of a religion who are supposed to be submissive to Allah and believe that nothing happens but Allah wills it who are behaving as if something WE did to kill one of their friends is not ALSO something Allah willed. They are blaming us for Allah's will? Give me a break. Either Allah is all powerful and nothing happens outside his will or we are responsible for what happened. In the first case he must take it up with Allah. In the second place he might have a case for being annoyed at us for defending ourselves.

Muslims don't have the faintest hint of logic in their natures. What Allah ordained is always somebody else's fault. (Of course, it is never their OWN fault.)

Muslims are crazy, sadly disfunctional people it would seem to this observer.

The REAL problem is they are ordered to fight those who they don't believe are Muslims. Any excuse will do. So they manufactur excuses with the same basic talent we show when we tell that ugly dog-faced Aunt Tilly who has several million bucks and no heirs of her own that she looks beautiful tonight. In their case their use of this talent is deadly.