Abigail Esman details the tense situation in the Netherlands as Geert Wilders prepares to release his film on the Qur'an. "Breaking News: Holland on Alert," in World Defense Review:
Holland is on high alert in anticipation of the upcoming release of yet another anti-Islam film, this one created by far right Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders, who has been living under high security since the death of Theo van Gogh in 2004 (van Gogh was murdered on the streets of Amsterdam by a radical Muslim in retaliation for a film that he directed, Ayaan Hirsi Ali's "Submission"). The government has recommended the evacuation of all its embassies "in sensitive areas," and has been engaging for weeks now in discussions with police officials as to the best way to handle the riots and violence they expect will erupt when the film is aired. And even Hirsi Ali, creator of "Submission," when interviewed in the Dutch press, ironically called the film "too provocative," suggesting that violent responses are indeed likely.
Hirsi Ali? The Hirsi Ali who helped produce a film that featured nude women with Qur'an verses written on their bodies? It's hard to beat that for provocative, but then again, I haven't seen the Wilders film.
It's a lot of activity for a film that no one has even seen, and for which no release date has yet been set. It is, however, expected that the film will air on Dutch television in late January or early February - and most likely on Friday, January 25th, just days from now. To date, however, he has not been able to find a television station willing to broadcast the project; if he hasn't secured on by Friday, he has said he will air the film on the Internet. [...]And so Holland waits. Pundits blog half-jokingly about the start of World War III. Iran issues a warning to the parliament in the Hague. Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, reciting cliches about Holland's tradition of "tolerance and respect" and expressing concern that the film could cause "hurt feelings," has called it "a crisis situation," though insists "there is no reason for panic."
Is he right? Or is it, as some skeptics argue, but a tempest in a teapot? Wilders insists that his film will prove once and for all that the Koran is a fascist book filthy with violence and incitements to kill. In many ways, the outcome of the film, far more than the film itself, will tell us if this is true.
Indeed it will.
Anyway, I was quite surprised yesterday to discover that I may be in this film. Jihad Watch reader Ulrike sent me this purported trailer from the movie, consisting of interviews with Wilders and clips from the film Islam: What the West Needs to Know, in which I appear. Is this the actual trailer? The actual film? I have no idea (and no, Wilders would not have had to contact me to get rights, as I am not the producer or owner of the film). But I'll be watching the reaction to this film closely myself.
UPDATE: I've been informed that that is not the actual trailer for the Wilders film, and that no such trailer yet exists.
Well Robert
You certainly will be popular during the wild monkey scenes after this movie............lol...take some shares and start suppliyng large photographs or yourself.......
"Wilders insists that his film will prove once and for all that the Koran is a fascist book filthy with violence and incitements to kill."
.....the film will be a re-enforcement of know fact....The followers of the QUr'an provide you with a daily dose of fact by their actions....They lie, rape, murder, maim, intimidate, extort, and vandalize and scandalize, then they quote passages from the Qur'an as justification for their actions....and it is not "just a few isolated extremists who have hijacked a religion" as some will tell you...They are in almost every country constantly probing for weak people, weak security, and other weaknesses they can exploit to their benefit....they thrive on the "fear factor"...terror....they have discovered "fear works"....
.....In almost every case of terrorism by Islamic jihadists where ever it occurs you will find a mosque nearby....and in almost every case it is discovered the terrorists attended the mosque....and they quote passages from the Qur'an....
....The terrorists filter in from almost every Muslim country....some come in legally (really easy to in countries with lax immigration rules), others slip in illegally (really easy to do in countries with lax border security)....and you will often see Islamic clerics giving hate speeches and threatening violence prior to an actual attack...often , just prior to the attack , the clerics will make demands for special priviledges for Muslims (you must do this...you must do that...)or demand the host government remove its support for fighting terrorism from those who are trying to fight terrorism....The terrorists quickly warn the host country that suicide bombers and other violent acts will occur soon if their demands are not met....
.....in the possession of terrorists killed in attacks on innocent people you will often find a)a Koran b)hate documents inspired by the Koran c)indications of travel and/or training in a Muslim country (often Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Yemen, or Egypt) d)photos of now dead marytrs who succeeded in killing infidels e)newspaper clippings of violent incidents caused when some infidel dropped a Koran, improperly touched a Koran, supposedly made some perceived insulting remark about a Koran, or published an inspired cartoon depicting Muslims as they truly are (a violent people) or made a film showing how Muslims treat its women or its "followers", or of some judicial success stories when Muslims sue businesses or employers for perceived injustices (i.e. profiling, discriminating, or display of anti-Islamic sentiments)...
....it becomes clearer every day that the Qur'an inspires violence....and the Muslims are proud to quote from it....and they do it often....far too often to allow it to be sold in stores, displayed in schools, or even allowed in non Muslim countries....
....you seldom see any books banned in western countries ....but go to a Muslim countries and visit a bookstore and see if you can find good books about the Bible or of Biblical history....see if you can find Moby Dick, Tale of Two Cities, or any number or great classical books,,, see if you can find books written about the Crusades,....see if you can find books about the great inventors of the world....see if you can find books about the cultures and histories of the western worlds or of its scientists or doctors....
.....Islam bans many books....we should ban at least one...the Qur'an....(it is evil)....
All those video trailers, and there are many, are all a bunch of hoaxes.
Geert Wilders did not release any material, no trailers, no previews, nothing. Wilders only declared that the movie will show how fascist the Koran is. Thus if Ayaan Hirsi Ali refers to this as “to provocative” she only can refer to this declaration but not to the movie it self.
Also the release date is still unknown. But Geert Wilders has recently declared that his 15 minute movie is still not finished and that he needs at least three more weeks.
Ferdy, Wilders did indeed release the trailer. I've posted it at EuropeNews.
Another 3 weeks to finish it sounds reasonable.
I think Ayaan Hirsi Ali would do well in giving Wilders 'the benefit of doubt' that what he does is meaningful. No need to pass premature judgement on a project she hasn't seen. Funny. She's plenty provocative herself.
If I were a fatwah scribe,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All day long I'd biddy biddy bum.
If I were a fatwah scribe!
Henrik
A bit OT, but thanks of your efforts with the EuropeNews site. It's appreciated.
This story now also appears in the Jerusalem Post: 'Holland dominated by fear of Islam'.
Please post a talkback there which expresses:
1. Support for Holland in its resistance to Islam.
2. Astonishment at talkbacks no.'s 1 and 3, for example, pointing out how elementary ignorant they are.
A splendid time is guaranteed for all!
Slightly OT, but amazing how a film or a song can get a ball rolling. The song 'My Allah' has been made into video, there are at least 5 versions on the web by now, by G-d knows who.
I just discovered this one on myspace, quite good, take a look!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=2653021
"Holland is on high alert..."
-- from the article above
Place-name precision requires the country to be called "the Netherlands," of which "Holland" is only a part. However, our American insistence on referring to "the Netherlands" as "Holland" -- even in the city once unblushingly (blaeuishly) called Nieuw Nederlandt -- should be recognized for what it is, a mistake with no harm intended, born of a gauzy hazy notion of a place called "Holland" -- all tulips, and windmills, and wooden clogs, with a view of Delft in the background -- a notion that visits to the real place by American tourists have done little to diminish --and therefore, we ask that fabled Dutch boy, whether at his desk or at the dijk, to forgive us our toponymic trespasses, as we forgive him....well, whatever.
Excellent job on the video, sheik.
Geert Wilders is a great man. Hirsi-Ali should watch her mouth and give the man support, he's certainly earned it. The guy has to live in safe houses because of Islam, he has to spend some nights in actual police stations because of Islam.
He has every right to exercise his freedoms, and he's only portraying what Islams Sunnah clearly states and supports.
I can only dream of a politician like that in Canada.
Go Geerts !
Rock on Robert! And YouTube will carry the entire film once it is released. And Hugh, get a grip. Many Dutch themselves call The Netherlands "Holland" when speaking both to others and among themselves. My Dutch grandfather still uses "Holland" in preference to "The Netherlands." Note, also, that "The Netherlands" in Dutch includes parts of Belgium which belonged to the Dutch crown prior to Napoleon's division of the country in 1806.
Geert Wilders is a great man. Hirsi-Ali should watch her mouth and give the man support, he's certainly earned it. The guy has to live in safe houses because of Islam, he has to spend some nights in actual police stations because of Islam.
-- Sneakyzionistcrusader
Indeed. And it dates back to the murder of Van Gogh, who was working on Hirsi-Ali's own film against Islamic dictates regarding the treatment of women. That she would even hint that Wilders should be silenced or his film withheld is a disgrace. Instead, she should be proclaiming his right to air his views. People who can only answer with violence need to be dealt with, not humored.
"Holland's tradition of 'tolerance and respect' and expressing concern that the film could cause 'hurt feelings,' has called it 'a crisis situation',"
Thats right, it's about hurt feelings. Haul Wilders before The Hurt Feelings Commission.
Look where we are, especially in Europe, soon to come here, a whole nation, culture and society now held at ransom, censored, because of a Muslim minority in their midst, yes, a still a minority. And if one un-censors something, like Wilders intends to do, be prepared for violence and death.
This is not what any of our ancestors, grandfathers or fathers ever thought or intended for a free country and in order to maintain certain values, the country must be willing to first shackle, then destroy itself for a few.
That's what's coming. Insane.
WHY IS THIS SORT OF INFORMATION ALWAYS DESCRIBED AS "ANTI-ISLAM".
I think this and other information should be described as -
Holland is on high alert in anticipation of the upcoming release of yet another "PUBLIC RELEASE OF INFORMATION ABOUT ISLAM".
There is nothing anti-Islam about it - It IS Islam. As long as people such as Geert, Robert, Hugh, etc give the facts and are not unduly exagerated, I cannot understand why their work is considered "ANTI-ISLAM". Islam is what it is, an very evil ideology, and the more the brave put the truth out, the better for my children and Grandchildren.
The Root of ALL evil is Ignorance
The Cure or tool for removal of evil is Knowledge
The method to gain this knowledge is Education
(*Note - all 9 letter English words, kind of the opposite of "666")
I remember violent protests and burning of US embassies, and death of number of people around world when DaVinci Code was released.
The Jerusalem Post article now has 45 talkbacks. Including mine.
So, now Holland is South Park.
There is nothing anti-Islam about it - It IS Islam.
Having followed the newsstream about Islam closely for quite a while, I can assure you that there's nothing positive coming out about Islam. No great litterature, no great inventions, nothing. Sometimes a bit of propaganda, sometimes some ignorant islamophile making excuses or some learned Imam explaning away the obvious. Nothing good, solid, uplifting anywhere.
As long as people such as Geert, Robert, Hugh, etc give the facts and are not unduly exagerated, I cannot understand why their work is considered "ANTI-ISLAM".
Well... :)
It is anti-Islam in the sense that the truth *will* destroy Islam. That's the reason for the Motoon trouble, and that's the reason they try to tuck away those nasty Hadith.
On the other hand, once knowing the Hadith, the temptation to exaggerate falls away. The basic material is so bad in itself, there's no need.
Oh. A new definition for Islamophobe:
'One who fears Islam', right?
That'd be the appeasers, not the fighters.
Why the alert? Burgerboy said Islam wasnt a great threat.
"A phobia (from the Greek φόβος "Phobos" meaning Fear), is an irrational, intense, persistent fear of certain situations, objects, activities, or persons."
--- [pasted from Wikipedia, but consistent with my memory of the definition from Psychology 101 of decades ago...]
I now resort to Wiktionary, for a definition of "irrational": "Not rational; unfounded or nonsensical."
Is fear of Islam "irrational?"
I have a fear of being caught on my back in my cramped crawlspace with an irritated rattlesnake. Is that fear unfounded? Nonsensical? Hardly. Rattlesnakes are not uncommon in this area, and bumping into one in the confined space under my home is not out of the question, and likely to have an unpleasant outcome for one or both parties.
If I kill the snake before it has a chance to bite me, I am committing an entirely rational act. If I only manage to kill it after it bites me, so I can take it with me to the Emergency Room for identification, I'm still acting entirely within the bounds of rationality.
I also have a fear of being caught in the minority in the same culture with a muslim majority, or, of being in the same shopping mall or sporting event with a muslim wearing an explosive vest and bearing a desire to blow his way to paradise. Does that make me irrational?
Given the opportunity, I will commit a purely rational act quite similar to the one in the crawlspace.
I reject the term, "Islamophobia," as a fraud perpetrated on the rational by muslims and their useful idiots in government, the academy and the media. It is a largely-successful manipulation of the English language to portray as irrational a completely rational reaction to a lethal threat.
Is there a term that describes a healthy, rational fear and respect for the threat posed by Islam to the world? Maybe it's time to create one.
Just my dos centavos.
RSI
Regarding ayaan hirsi ali, I'm guessing that she doesn't come out in support of this film because she doesn't want to be associated with a far right european political party.
Or it may be the fact that ali was kicked out of the freedom party and the country and is getting back at them by not coming out in support, she probably feels that she's too good for them now after being spoiled rotten with the glitzy, safe lime light she's receiving in the US. She's forgetting her european political roots.
Or it may be the fact that ali was kicked out of the freedom party and the country and is getting back at them by not coming out in support, she probably feels that she's too good for them now after being spoiled rotten with the glitzy, safe lime light she's receiving in the US. She's forgetting her european political roots.
leon,
In either case, her non-support for Wilders comes across as self-serving, damaging her credibility. She would deny the message because the messenger is someone of whom she doesn't approve? She is only hurting herself.
Dear Leon the Pig Farmer,
Ayaan Hirsi Ali's was never in the Geert Wilders party they were both in the VVD from which they were kicked out. There is a lot of contempt here for the muslims but it is very subdued because anybody speaking out they will not be guaranteed any protection from the state if they encore the muslims wrath. Van Gogh's murder and Ayaan Hirsi Ali's treatment is a warning to all Dutchmen and women that they are on there own. Wilders is in a special position because he is a member of Parliament and therefore gets protection. This will not be taken away from him because if they take it away from him they will have to take it away from themselves. Geert has done wonders. When Geert was kicked out of the VVD he was a one man party and has managed to get 9 members in the Dutch parliament and if there were elections now he would have over 20 seats. The Dutch are not stupid only cautious and there is a lot of resentment here about how the Government is going about things if you want to see how the Dutch think about Geert check this out on U Tube, It is an appearance by Wilders on a popular talk show here in the Netherlands. You wont understand the Dutch but will certainly understand the standing ovation he receive when he comes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfapCmLQCG8
Deep Regards
Holger Dansker
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer
Regarding ayaan hirsi ali, I'm guessing that she doesn't come out in support of this film because she doesn't want to be associated with a far right european political party.
Whether she likes it or not, she is going to be associated with the far right.
Personally I am beginning to think that many of the mainstream anti-jihadi,s are putting to much importance to themselves
If the whole movie is just 10 minutes, why have a trailer? Most movie trailers seem longer than that.
"That she would even hint that Wilders should be silenced or his film withheld is a disgrace."
Yes, I'm shocked at Hirsi Ali. Did she really say these things?
RedStateInfidel:
'Is there a term that describes a healthy, rational fear and respect for the threat posed by Islam to the world? Maybe it's time to create one.'
I thought of: 'Islamosceptic'.
That's rational.
It means you question the 'Islam is peace' malarky.
Wow talk about stupidity. American and European politicians are trying to tell us how peaceful Islam is yet they fear saying anything that may inflame the Muslims. Talk about an oxymoron. Muslims are peaceful but, don't say anything that might offend them, they will become violent. They are not like normal people who are offended all the time. When they are offended, they kill. So stay quiet. Now remember Islam is a religion of peace.
According to the definition on dictionary.com Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. But the definition of phobia is fear not prejudice. Even the dictionary changes a definition of a word to suit Muslim sentiments. The word means fear of Islam.
And I agree with Henrik. It is not those that are willing to tell and hear the truth about Islam that are Islamophobic, they do not fear Muslims. It is the ones unwilling to utter a word that may upset Muslims that are Islamophobic. They are the ones who fear what the Muslims will do. That right there shows me world leaders and the media do not believe for one second that Muslims are peaceful.
If they were peaceful, the 90% of so called peaceful Muslims could easily reign in the 10% that are violent. By the size of the Muslim protests I have seen the figure is more like 50-50. And that would explain why Muslims have no fear of protesting cartoons and total fear of protesting the bombing of babies. We need to stop this censorship when it comes to Islam. It is the beginning of the end for free speech. With the demise of free speech goes free will and free thought.
It's so confusing in the Netherlands / Europe so it must be more confusing to you.
The little sympathy of Ayaan for mr Wilders is perfectly understandable when you realise that Wilders did SUPPORT the Dutch goverment for not paying for her security anymore because she live in the USA -after she was chased out of the country, in the process of which there was a crucial role for mrs Verdonk, who by now has started her own party too. That party (Proud Of the Netherlands) wants to show powerful politics but Verdonk sees Ramadan Tariq as a wise man building bridges between muhammedans and other dutchmen.
Yes Geert Wilders is a courageous man, but a populist as well.
For the record. At the demonstration next saterday in Amsterdam my speech is not welcome.
Main reason: I wanted to urge everybody to read the qu'ran to see for them selves what's in.
PS: spinoneone is right about the use of "Holland"
It's so confusing for us here in the Netherlands / Europe so it must be more confusing to you.
The little sympathy of Ayaan for mr Wilders is perfectly understandable when you realise that Wilders did SUPPORT the Dutch goverment for not paying for her security anymore because she lives in the USA now -after she was chased out of the country, in the process of which there was a crucial role for mrs Verdonk, who by now has started her own party too. That party (Proud Of the Netherlands) wants to show power-politics towards the “youth in the banlieus” but Verdonk sees Ramadan Tariq as a wise man building bridges between muhammedans and other people.
Yes Geert Wilders is a courageous man, but a populist as well.
For the record. At the demonstration next saturday in Amsterdam my speech is not welcome.
Main reason: I wanted to urge everybody to read the qu'ran to see for them selves what's in.
PS: spinoneone is right about the use of "Holland"
It's so confusing for us here in the Netherlands / Europe so it must be more confusing to you.
Yes Geert Wilders is a courageous man, but a populist as well.
The little sympathy of Ayaan for mr Wilders is perfectly understandable when you realise that Wilders did SUPPORT the Dutch goverment for not paying for her security anymore because she lives in the USA now -after she was chased out of the country, in the process of which there was a crucial role for mrs Verdonk, who by now has started her own party too. That party (Proud Of the Netherlands) wants to show power-politics towards the "youth in the banlieus" but Verdonk sees Ramadan Tariq as a wise man building bridges between muhammedans and other people.
For the record. At the demonstration next saturday in Amsterdam my speech is not welcome.
Main reason: I wanted to urge everybody to read the qu'ran to see for them selves what's in.
PS: spinoneone is right about the use of "Holland"
Apologies for triple-posting. Seemed like nothing was posted at all.
"'Is there a term that describes a healthy, rational fear and respect for the threat posed by Islam to the world? Maybe it's time to create one.'
I thought of: 'Islamosceptic'.
That's rational.
It means you question the 'Islam is peace' malarky."
Devorgilla, that's dead-on. Terse, objective and accurate, as an Islamoskeptic (if you'll permit me the American spelling) should be. Kudos.
Consider me Islamoskeptic. I'll add both spellings to my dictionary.
RSI
Frans. I suspected that there had been some rift between ali and wilders, he basically screwed her in her darkest hour. What a jerk
Yes Geert Wilders is a courageous man, but a populist as well.
Then we'll publicize and support the good stuff he does, and ignore the populist garbage he also throws around.
I find that avoiding having opinions on persons, restricting me to opine on statements & actions, gives me a significant freedom in not having to defend someone who suddenly does something stupid :)
Holland will be a testing ground for the will of ALL people around the world (not only christians and jews) who are pissed with islamic fascism.
Make sure that the film is released in every major capital(naturally muslim countries out) of the world.
Make this part of the western educational curriculum in high schools, universities.
Apply tax rebate incetives to private channels screening the film.
We will see whether Holland lives up to its fame for producing "Dutch Schultzes" and "Flying Dutchmans" or WW2 Nazi collaborators who handed Ann Frank over to Gestapo.