Jihad recruitment in Montreal mosques. And what is being done about it? Any challenge being issued to Muslims in Canada to strike at the roots of this recruitment and explicitly renounce political Islam and Islamic supremacism? No. Any reevaluation of Muslim immigration into Canada, or even any attempt made to screen out potential jihadists (a flawed but possibly useful first step)? No. Any call to Muslims to renounce any intention of imposing Sharia in Canada now or in the future? No. What are you, some kind of Islamophobe?
"Charkaoui told CSIS about jihad recruiting," by Graeme Hamilton in the National Post:
MONTREAL - In a previously undisclosed interview with CSIS investigators, alleged al-Qaeda sleeper agent Adil Charkaoui described how members of Montreal's Arab community were recruiting people for jihad before 9/11."Charkaoui explained that many are called but few are chosen. It's a funnel effect," according to a summary of the April, 2001, interview with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, just added to the court record.
"The person responsible for recruitment attends certain nerve centres, such as mosques. Someone whom the recruiter considers to have potential will be invited to meetings where he will be exposed to certain activities having to do with jihad. The person is tested. If any flaw is detected related to the security that he must respect to participate in jihad activities, he will be expelled from the group immediately."
Nowhere in the interview does Mr. Charkaoui admit to participatingin the recruitment effort, but his comments reveal a depth of knowledge about the goings-on within Montreal's extremist community.
Mr. Charkaoui, a Moroccan citizen who came to Montreal in 1995, was arrested two years after the interview on suspicion of belonging to al-Qaeda. He has denied any involvement in terrorism and is contesting his removal from Canada on a federal security certificate that declared him a danger to national security. Mr. Charkaoui said he came to know Abdellah Ouzghar, a former Montrealer who is facing extradition to France after being convicted in absentia of terrorism charges, at Montreal's Assunah (or Al Sunnah)mosque.
Mr. Ouzghar attended the mosque regularly and worked at promoting jihad among those attending prayers. "Charkaoui specified that he disagrees with this way of acting," the interview summary says.
"According to Charkaoui, Ouzghar is someone who is very direct in his dealings with others, which explains his tendency to want to convert lots of people all over the place. Charkaoui, for his part, favours a more nuanced and targeted approach." He reported that videos promoting jihad were available for rental at Assunah....
I also noticed that what was omitted in the article was how the Canadian Muslim communtity was active in reporting these activities. Probably because they turned a blind eye. After all, the Ummah comes first.
The Parti Quebecois's policy of encouraging francophone immigrants, with no taking into account the mental baggage taht accompanies, undeclared, those Muslim immigrants, a policy that fails to distinguish Muslim North Africans from, say, Lebanese Maronites or West African Christians, has permitted the ranks of Muslim maghrebins in Quebec, and hence in Canada, to swell -- swell dangerously. And this has given pause to the would-be immigrants whom the Quebecois should be most in favor of welcoming, that is the French from France who have been attempting to flee the very maghrebin population that the Parti Quebecois, in its failure to recognize the danger of Muslim immigration (does no one in Quebec read the French press, follow the French websites dealing with Islam, try to learn from the mistakes that were made in France?), has helped so mindlessly to encourage?
Here is an article I posted here in 2004. Nothing has changed, apparently, in the immigration policy of Quebec, and so the article has not needed a single change, for it does not date:
"The mad policy of favoring francophone (or supposedly) francophone maghrebins as immigrants, over non-francophone Italians, Greeks, Spanish immigrants, by the government of Quebec, has created a condition, an atmospherics, and a demographic problem that can only grow in Quebec. It is not a question of Ressams trying to cross into Washington State, or of chemical weapons being smuggled out of the country. It is also a matter of a growing population of people few of whom owe any real allegiance to an Infidel nation-state -- even if that nation-state is Canada, so compliant in so many ways. A growing population of Muslims has already alarmed two French-speaking communities in Montreal, Sephardic Jews from North Africa (via France) and Maronites from Lebanon, who are keenly aware of the problem of Islam -- it was Antoine Fattal, after all, who wrote the definitive and indispensable study of the legal status of non-Muslims under Islam.
Already, Concordia University has been turned into a place where pro-Israeli speakers are shouted down (as happened to Netayanyahu a year or two ago); its public rooms have become a scruffy hotbed of "Palestinian" and Muslim propaganda. So far McGill seems to have kept its head -- and its American students, and its donors. But for how long?
Eventually, something will happen. American tourists will be attacked, by Arabs, on St. Catherine or St.-Laurent, as they gaze in shop windows, or look for a restaurant. Or perhaps the tourists will be specifically American Jews. One does not know. But even if appeals to morality and common sense do not work with the authorities in Quebec -- and the Muslims have been working their way steadily into the political ranks of all the parties; it is startingly noticeable if one consults the party lists -- then perhaps an argumentum ad pecuniam, an appeal to economic interests, and what will happen, and not only to the tourist industry, will make some bethink themselves, and rethink their policy. And, of course, there is the increased cost of monitoring this population.
Finally, as the situation in France inevitably will worsen, as talented French people, unwilling to put up with the growing Muslim presence, and its pressures, and its expense, and its unpleasantness, and its dangers, for all non-Muslims, as those people -- atheits, or Christians, or Jews, or Buddhists, or Hindus all of them French-speaking, but none of them wishing to endure the growing presence and power of Islam, seek refuge -- will Quebec attract them, or will they forefeel that here, too, the problem can only grow?
So even if francophones are to be favored in immigration policy, let it be the French-speaking Christian Togolese, now getting out as fast as they can as, even under a corrupt Christian President, Togo goes Muslim; let it be the French-speaking Christians of Haiti; let it be the Maronites who, having settled in France to escape Muslim depredation, find that the Muslim depredations have followed them to France; let it be the Sephardic Jews who now feel that they must yet again pick up stakes and not all of whom wish to go to Israel. Inn other words, if francophonie is to be a condition, let it be considered necessary, but not sufficient. One other condition -- adherence to any damn belief-system in the world, except for the aggressive belief-system that has imbedded in it a requirement for Da'wa and Qital -- Call and Combat -- until it covers the globe, and subjugates all others. That belief-system is -- well, you know exactly what it is."
Posted by: Hugh at July 8, 2004 9:55 AM]
...mosques recruiting terrorists...go figure!...
Ban Muslim Immigration..
How much of this aggressive Islamic 'words and deeds parade' does it take before blindsided people begin to 'see'. Nearly everyone that posts on this site, including RS and Hugh, are 'seer's'. A lot of people who read, but do not comment are also 'seer's', but the majority are blinded by the light...of the mall.
The mall is only illuminated by indirect light or deception. 'When the going gets tough the tough go shopping', at the mall. The mall mentality produces an out of focus vision of the world, that can only contemplate the next fancy gizmo. It takes a lot to turn a mall addicts head, unless you have something for sale cheap. Yet, it is they that need to become 'seer's. Those who are afflicted with the mall syndrome, are entrenched. You need a mentality wrench to pry them loose. Many of them are liberals and leftists, conservatives have a tendency to own the mall, and are less effected by it's lure, and escape from reality. It's an interesting way for conservatives to trap liberals. Somehow we need to enlighten these people as to Islams threat to their mall life. Islam will not support a mall with all it's western decadence. If Shari'a gets in, forget those mall trips, your going to mosque instead.
'Mall life' is threatened by Islam, if you want to maintain it, you better start paying attention.
While your at the mall, before it explodes, find the bookstore and buy all RS books. You need this information to preserve your shopping addictions and your need to be seen (at the mall).
Happy reading and welcome to reality...'Now I 'see' said the blind mouse'...another 'seer' is born...
This is the Canada that had to transport back 50,000 Fifty thousand Lebanese arabs by renting cruise ships during war with Isreal. 50,000 Canadian citizens living in Lebanon?
Montreal has a very anti Christian/Catholic environment but a muslim friendly attitude. Montreal is the only city where a Sikh student was allowed to carry 'Karpan' the dagger to school while Christian students are banned to wear cruicifix.
Does Quebec, or any Canadian province, have its own immigration laws? Where is the federal government on this?
"Does Quebec, or any Canadian province, have its own immigration laws? Where is the federal government on this?
Posted by: PMK"
...sure..and much like ours...woefully inadequate...
Ban Muslim Immigration...
Mosques are not Muslim "churches". They are also recruitment centers for the jihad, storage for arms and ammunication and safe houses for militants on the run from the authorities.
Since there is no separation between church and state in Islam, the west should not be treating mosques as a places of worship. We should be examining them the same way we would a Nazi recruitment office or a Communist cell.
When is the first mosque in the West going to blow up from the stored munitions?
Islam is an anti-Constitutional subversive movement for theocratic tyranny.
It needs to be encouraged to go back to Mecca.
And reform, repent and reapply.
Don't worry! The Alberta Human Rights Commission will come to the rescue!
So the adherents of the God Of Peace And Love (GOPAL) were/are stirring up more trouble in the most advanced-thinking city in Canada....surely the superior and diverse Quebecois are above this challenge, and it will no doubt go away peacefully.....? Someday........? Right......?
Hello.......?
I prefer to view mosques - not as 'churches' - but as the enemy's armories. In any real war, armories are prime targets.
"Charkaoui explained that many are called but few are chosen. It's a funnel effect,"
Kinda like the human colon?
Canada's not a country. It's a motley collection of ethnic enclaves. The Canadians have blithely given their country away to every Ho, Pierre, and Abdullah who ever filed for permission to immigrate. By the time they realize their mistake - if they ever do admit they made one - it will be far too late for them to take it back, especially from Islam, without force of arms. I hope they remember where they left their collective guts and cojones because they're going to need them, and right soon!
Canada's not a country. It's a motley collection of ethnic enclaves. The Canadians have blithely given their country away to every Ho, Pierre, and Abdullah who ever filed for permission to immigrate. By the time they realize their mistake - if they ever do admit they made one - it will be far too late for them to take it back, especially from Islam, without force of arms. I hope they remember where they left their collective guts and cojones because they're going to need them, and right soon!
...sure..and much like ours...woefully inadequate...
exsgtbrown,
What does that mean? It's still not clear where provincial authority ends and federal begins. Does Quebec also have its own immigration laws or does Ottawa have full jurisdiction? Are the immigration procedures carried out solely by federal officials or can provincial officers exercise any authority in this area?
The thing about this that really bothers me is the inadequate controls on our border with Canada. So much emphasis has been put on the influx of illegals through our Southern border, that I'm afraid that the Northern border is being neglected.
And this atricle makes it clear that we can't afford to have it neglected.
Although I did hear on NPR (I know, I know but it's the best we have) that members of one town up there (Vermont, New Hampshire maybe) that is used to just crossing back and forth are complaining about new procedures being put in place by the Border Patrol. So at least a little is being done.
"I hope they remember where they left their collective guts and cojones because they're going to need them, and right soon!"
Posted by: lilgadfly
Stories coming out of Canada are not at all unlike those coming out of the USA or any other country for that matter, and there's plenty of em, unless you know something I don't.
Here's one prediction concerning the fate of America's neighbor to the north: Canada in the not-too-distant future will be the recipient of a successful al-Qaeda coup d'etat, almost instantly Islamized, and then attack the United States with the assistance of Russia and China.
Canada as we know it is almost certainly doomed-- it is a perfect example of a country having done "too little, too late" about the all-too-real danger of global jihad.
pythagoras, you know the old saying "He who lives in glass houses".
Canada's current affliction is no different than the affliction felt by the US and Europe currently.
The only difference bwrween them is the degree of the affliction.
Walterc -
I lived for 3 years in the state of North Dakota, which shares a border with Canada. This was back in the sixties, but on many roads on border there was a little shack with a clipboard and a pen. Residents on both sides of the border would sign in and out. It was an honor system.
Just hope things have changed.
However, I live in New England now and I expect I could walk across the border in the remote areas of the northern woods. We need the Canadians to stand fast and not submit.
Sounder: I do not live in a glass house nor throw stones. The US Constitution's elimination is a prime jihad target. Canada will make a very convenient tool to get at it.
"Residents on both sides of the border would sign in and out. It was an honor system."
...nope....heck some of the outposts even have a phone you can use to call in if your paperwork is not right (of course, the phone does not work most of the time).......maybe 5 days a year an official goverment man may show up to see if the shack is even still standing....probably has a gps unit to find the dang thing.....illegals do not need to sneak through the woods...they just use the roads....no one home....
American sharia booster @ UC-Davis (home of Shoebat harrassers);
Nuance.From the article:
'Mr. Ouzghar attended the mosque regularly and worked at promoting jihad among those attending prayers. "Charkaoui specified that he disagrees with this way of acting," the interview summary says'
'"According to Charkaoui, Ouzghar is someone who is very direct in his dealings with others, which explains his tendency to want to convert lots of people all over the place. Charkaoui, for his part, favours a more nuanced and targeted approach." He reported that videos promoting jihad were available for rental at Assunah [Al-Sunnah - and, here at jihadwatch, we know that the Sunnah is the Example of Mohammed}'...
In other words: Ouzghar believes in Fast Jihad. Whereas Charkaoui believes in Slow Jihad. Like Hamas vs. Fatah.
"Montreal Muslims were recruiting in mosques for jihad before 9/11"
Wait. That can't be right. Before 9/11? But I thought that it was the Infidel invasion of muslim lands that gave rise to the islamic jihad against the West. Oh, well. Another excuse frequently cited by the PC crowd for the jihad against the West bites the dust!
CAIR-Canada has now batted a thousand for the Muslims they backed as "Innocent" and victims of Islamophobia , it should now be obvious why Maher Arar and CAIR never want their lawsuit agaisn canada to actually go to a Courtroom Trial becase Arar would have to swear he claims were true and then the media would have the Daily's to publish all the valid evidence against Arar.
He lived in Montreal , had a second home near the Boston Airport , got a Gun permit around 1993 yet claimed he FLED syria to avoid the Military because he's not violent and won't carry arms , he married right about the time he needed his Citizenship approved to get a Passport , he tried to smuggle a laptop into canada and refused to give Customs the password to check it, CAIR coached him to NOT assist the RCMP or canada seek out Terror cells , Arar fled canada for Tunisia , and later had to flee Tunisia by Flying alone as a sunni/male/young/Muslim with a Canadian passport he could have bought from the Khadr Klan Kids that admit to being Al-Qaeda family while wanting to be suicide bomber one day and slaughter canadians for their support for Israel , Arar's wife appeared a pro-Hamas fund-raiser and rally in Ottawa, she has ties to Palestine,practises Sharia law , and she only "Alleged" torture to her husband AFTER she left Tunisia and got back to canada so the MSM would assume Arar was merely pick-up off the streets of NY and deported to Syria.
I'd like to see Arar in a US Courtroom to explain his gun permit , to explain smuggling Laptop into canada, and explain his Home in Boston while he lived in Ottawa after his time in Montreal that he now denies as having any ties to these radical Mosques or Muslims.
What's so farcical about CAIR is that they now claim that the Muslim who fingered Arar as a Al-Qaeda sleeper cell member is a liar , but Arar is the true Muslim telling the truth....I say boot both of them out of canada as Liars and scam artists , kinda like the Jihadists calling the Islamists an Apostate .
lilgadfly,
I beg to differ. Canada IS a country.
Pythagorus, you said:
"Canada as we know it is almost certainly doomed- it is a perfect example of a country having done "too little, too late" about the all-too-real danger of global jihad."
I believe the whole, entire Western world has done "too little, too late" about the danger of global jihad - including the United States.
walterc, your point, "The thing about this that really bothers me is the inadequate controls on our border with Canada."
No doubt the border controls on both sides are inadequate for today's world, but what really bothers me about it, is the fact that for nearly 200 years our common border, famous for being "the world's longest undefended border", once a source of pride and an example of how two countries can live in peace and brotherhood, has been perverted and destroyed by islamists.
IMNODHIMMI:
I do not quite agree with you on your assessment on the situation in the US for a couple of reasons. First there is a need to separate the US government from the masses (not all of whom are as clueless about Islam and its ties to the socialist movement as you might think). It may be that there are no government solutions to this problem (except to deport Muslims nad outlaw Islam which no one anywhere has yet done that I am aware of).
The United States, by the way, HAS been invaded militarily before (in 1812) and won against the agressors (Britain and France, who burned DC to the ground including the White House); Mexico's tried it at least once, too (Pancho Villa, whatever did finally happen to him was never made clear). The US probably will survive another coup d'etat attempt by al-Qaeda (and that is almost certainly what 9-11--WAS an attempted coup d'etat by al Qaeda) which is probably on its way. Regarding the illegal immigration invasion, the wheels are turning. We may very well get the US government to stop it sooner or later.
However, Canada is not a military superpower and probably could not withstand a military assault (like 9-11) without US assistance and I think the Muslim world knows that. And I think that will motivate them to try to conquer Canada to help them in their game plan conquer the US by the year 2020. Islam may need to use Canada as a base of operations to take the US.
Even though the US government has clearly been overly passive in the face of Islamic infiltration of US soil, there ARE millions of US citizens who are armed to the teeth,ready to defend their homeland, and fully aware that Muslims aspire to conquer their homeland by dint of military and/or subversive means.
The media portrayal of Americans as generally PC and apathetic perhaps is somewhat misleading, as the abundance of websites critical of Islam indicates. You will notice that the majority of anti-islam websites originate from the United States and "hate crime" laws are mostly not in place (and hopefully never will be).
America does have one clear advantage over the rest of the western democracies it is the least inclined towards socialism (communism under an alias, the ringleader of the PC movement, and in bed with the Muslims). Socialist and other ideologies aren't as popular as elsewhere in the west so our chances of blocking the spread of Islamic doctrine is better too.
"Montreal Muslims were recruiting in mosques for jihad before 9/11"
....need to alert those whackos who claim Bush and others did the deed...