Rotterdam pol refusing to resign after lying about ties to jihadist organization

Yes, that's right: it's the epistolary wonder Bouchra Ismaili.

"Radical PvdA Councillor Refusing to Resign," from NISNews (thanks to Dav):

ROTTERDAM, 25/01/08 - Labour (PvdA) politician Bouchra Ismaili is refusing to resign. She is ignoring requests from her party to step down because she lied about signing a petition of the radical Muslim organisation Hizb Ut Tahrir.

Ismaili, a Muslim immigrant of Moroccan origin, is a PvdA member of Rotterdam's Charlois district council. Last week, she wrote in an e-mail to a citizen: "You filthy idiot. WE ARE HERE TO STAY hahahahahahhahah DROP DEAD". The email contained reams more similar remarks and urged the man to convert to Islam.

Ismaili's email was a reply to an email in which the citizen, Jos Parbleu, had confronted the council member with statements by Okay Pala, a spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahrir Nederland. Pala had said in newspaper De Telegraaf: 'We do not agree with freedom of expression, as we reject democracy' and 'what you need is a big bomb attack!'

The PvdA leadership in Charlois did not consider it necessary to boot Ismaili out. But meanwhile, during a meeting of Charlois district council, it has become clear that Ismaili also signed a petition from Hizb Ut Tahrir and lied about it.

The Hizb ut Tahrir petition stated: "It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam." Initially, Ismaili denied emphatically that she signed the petition. But when opposition party Liveable Rotterdam (LR) produced a printout of the Internet page with her signature, she had to admit it....

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The Labour party will suffer no matter what, but it can do some loss-limiting by removing her from the party. And while it ought to be unnecessary to ask, nowadays one must ask: is Bouchra Ismaili even a Dutch citizen? Or has the Western fad and folly of giving the same rights as citizens to those who merely happen to be, geographically, within the borders of this or that Western country, extended, in the suicidally "tolerant" Netherlands, to allowing such people to take part in political life as she, apparently, so dangerously does?

Great. A lying Muslim in a place of authority in the West.

This goes to show (if we needed more evidence) that you can't trust people from that religion. I am surprised that she didn't attack the Jews during all this process. Or did she, and I missed it?


Secondly, what kind of a western party has in its ranks someone so undemocratic as this?

Thirdly, how long till we ban Muslim immigration?

"nowadays one must ask: is Bouchra Ismaili even a Dutch citizen?"

REMEMBER...


Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Somali-born former Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali, known for her outspoken criticism of conservative Islam, seems unable to avoid controversy.
Caught up in a row over her Dutch citizenship, she resigned from parliament in May and said she would leave the Netherlands.

Her troubles began when Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk said she should be stripped of her passport because of falsifications in her asylum application when she came to the Netherlands in 1992.

and then

Having received repeated death threats over her challenges to Islam's treatment of women.

......hmmmm....booted out by the Dutch (for improper citizenship)despite proving herself to be a pretty good politician....

.....helped the world recognize Islams bad treatment of its women.....she even wrote and helped to make the film "Submission".....THe maker of the film ...remember him?...Theo Van Gogh was executed by a Muslim....MS Ali has vowed to make a sequel film (this should irritate the irrational sensitivities of Muslims)..

....Had to go into a guarded seclusion after receiving death threats from Muslims.....(goes to show, Muslim just cannot stand it when infidels know the truth about Islam)...


.....and now we have a Muslim Dutch politician who may not be a legal citizen....a Muslim Dutch Politician who supports the Muslim treatment of women as outlined by Ms Ali...and then the Muslim Dutch Politician lies about it....


.....THis Dutch Muslim Politician is but a soldier in the Islamic Jihad and should not be permitted to remain in office....cast her out!...

Please contact the FL AG and show your support


ag.mccollum@myfloridalegal.com

Muslim Group Trying to Stop Florida AG From Screening "Obsession" Movie

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2008/01/muslim-group-tr.html#comments

On the topic, I doubt she will resign or be forced to.

If, or when, she resigns there could be an excellent opportunity for her to become a British politician. With her outlook and record she would fit in perfectly with our current bunch of cretins.

"There is no Islamic terrorism only terrorism" Tony Blair.

"The words terrorism and Islam should not appear together in the same sentance" Mr Paddick (Deputy Commissioner Metropolitan Police).

"In future we will call Islamic terrorism what it really is and that is NON-Islamic terrorism" Jaquie Smith (Home Secretary)

In Britain today we have the blind leading the bland.

By their works you shall know them.......

You're busted, sister. Only a sociopath would try to brazen their way any further.

I checked out the old thread, the part where she calls the Dutchman something like foreigner ("allochthonous") is interesting.

It is interesting because this is a common insult for Egyptian Christians in Egypt (different language of course). I wonder if this is a common insult for all the people Islam subjugates and steals from on the subjugated people's home turf?

Of course the Copts, like the Dutchmen, were there first, and they're far more native to the area than the Arabs and Mamlukes that followed, and culturally more native than those who converted.

It fits with the general trend of insulting and accusing purely on the basis of projection, and impervious to facts or to actual motives, drives, and interests of the one intended to be attacked. The intended impact may be to make the person feel inferior, but that actual impact is just the impression that they are dealing with idiotic psychotics... luntics running the asylum... which makes the target just as angry, of course.

Another interesting projection from that email is exemplified by these:

"I AND MY CO-MOSLEMS ARE LIVING, your kind is being eaten up by hatred."

"Hatred eats you up and makes your heart stay empty."

"I know, you're empty inside, and sometimes you feel you wouldn't exist."

Ad nauseum.

Projection on a scale previously unfathomed. The lady doth protest too much, as they say. It makes sense, given this collectivist borg religion, that these are the problems the woman has most readily available to project.

It is also especially interesting if you've ever spoken to anyone involved in religious outreach to Muslims. These haunting empty feelings are reportedly rampant. Very sad... and exactly why, the moment missionizing is allowed and apostates aren't killed, you will see a major revival of Christianity in the Muslim lands.

Externalities aren't everything. People are more than fatalistic tools. Denying that destroys what's inside you. If you have it left, that stuff inside you that makes you really you, and you don't care if on the outside you look like just one of the crowd. Its really not at all bad being one of the ordinary gray mouse crowd if you've got a hold on what you are inside. It is only when it is crushed that you have to define yourself by who you can subjugate and how much wealth you can steal and power you can obtain... and even that won't ever really work to make up for the loss, for all that it *will* cause a seratonin rush. Men can't live by bread alone.

The Freemason refs make me want to rent The Magic Flute.

Papapapapapa-geno!

What? They haven't kicked her butt out yet?

crusader-

Step Two:

REVERSE MUSLIM IMMIGRATION.

Step Three:

Analyze Islam to oblivion.

"It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam."

Should have read:

"It is time to rid ourselves of Islam, an ideology that damages our culture."

""It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam."

...start by tossing out the Qur'an....

A LITTLE BIT OF TRACK

The BBC published this report today

Man charged after Muslim ceremony
A man has been charged with child cruelty after two teenage boys allegedly took part in a religious ceremony involving flagellation.
Syed Mustafa Zaidi, 43, of Station Road in Eccles, is due before magistrates in Manchester on Friday.
Greater Manchester Police said the charge relates to the treatment of two boys, aged 15 and 13, at a traditional Ashura ceremony.
The ceremony took place at a community centre in Levenshulme, police said.

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-do-you-really-want.html

Only a muslim could get away with telling a blatant lie about supporting a terror organization. It is fine for muslims to lie, steal, cheat, kill, and perpetually whine; that's what muslims do. Eventually, they wear down the society they have invaded, the generous society that sustained them with welfare benefits, catered to them, appeased them, granted them special privileges, and all but kissed their asses in an effort to peacefully coexist. The more they get, the more they demand and the more hostile and aggressive they become. They will not rest until they have it all. When will the West understand that?

Peace is unattainable as long as muslims exist.

"It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam."

You are the interlopers. Go back to dar-al-islam.

It is the duty of a foreigner and a temporary resident to do nothing beyond his own business, not to pry into the concerns of other people, and, least of all, to be meddlesome in the affairs of the state in which he is an alien.

--Cicero, On Duties, Book I pp 34.

"It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam."

What culture are they going to rid themselves of?
The indigenous culture of the host country?
And they are not ridding themselves of a politician who signed this?
What has happened in Europe?

OK, I'm gonna be controversial here.

The newspaper report is misleading. It doesn't make it clear, but the phrase "It is time to rid ourselves of a culture that damages our Islam" is not the title of the petition, but in fact comes from Bouchra Ismaili's own contribution to it (see link below)

http://www.haltlasterenvanislam.nl/component/option,com_beamospetition/startpage,3/pet,1/

The petition itself is titled: Stop! Oppose the Defamation of Islam" (I got a Dutch-speaking friend to translate).

Ismaili's contribution is cut and pasted from the second contri to the petition, and in English reads:

"It's time to get rid of a culture that damages our Islam and to spread the true beauty of Islam. Only so will we grow in our Islam. We mustn't put in energy to change others, but rather change ourselves."

Now, call me a pinko, but to me this reads that the signatory is criticising Islamist attitudes, and stating that rather than demanding that others change, Muslims themselves have to change.

(a search on the name of the original signatory revealed support for various liberal causes - inter-religious peace petitions, environmental issues, animals rights etc. Not the kind of things that normally interest ranting Islamists).

No doubt Ismaili has been sacked because she lied (I don't know if simply signing a petition constitutes "ties" to an organistation ). But could we have her wrong on this one?

(yeah, I know - I'm a pinko)

The lady blow her kettle when she recieved this text (translated from Dutch) that was also send to many other politicians fishing for a reaction:
"
Okay Pala of the Hizb ut-Tahrir-movement in the Netherlands:
* 'We do not agree with the freedom of speech because we reject democracy. '.
* 'What you all need is an attack with a big bomb!'
"
Today it became know that another member of left political party PvdA has signed the Hisb-manifesto:
Hatice Can is member of the council in the town of Gilzen-Rijen for the Turkisch part of the population.

Hugh:

This woman is most likely a Dutch citizen- and also a Moroccan. The Dutch law allows for citizens from Turkey and Moroco to hold double nationality, since those countries do not allow their citizens to renounce their citizenship. Mind you, the law does not allow citizens from other countries this privilege.

There was an outcry last year in the Netherlands as Geert Wilders submitted to the Parliament that no one holding public office should be allowed to have double nationaly (serving two masters...) Immediately all parties closed ranks against him, as usual.

From another post:

For the Dutch, autochtoon is someone who is "originally" Dutch, that is, born in the Netherlands, to "originally" Dutch parents. Allochtoon is someone who may be a Dutch national and have a Dutch passport, but is the son or grand son of an immigrant, even if he/she and their parents had already the Dutch nationality. So, it is not so much an insult as a descriptive term. The problem here is that the allochtoon is telling the autochtoon that she (the newcomer) is really at home, while he (who's always been there) is now out of place.

Maria Jose