Ehsanul Sadequee and Syed Ahmed are both U.S. citizens, who are accused of plotting jihad terror attacks for the "defense of Muslims or retaliation for acts committed against Muslims." So their U.S. citizenship is hollow; their allegiance is to Islam above all. Christians and other religious believers whose allegiance is to their religion first have no trouble reconciling this with being loyal citizens; what are American Muslim advocacy groups doing to inculcate similar attitudes among Muslims in this country?
"FBI: Atlanta terror suspects met with suspects in Canadian sweep," by Harry R. Weber for The Associated Press (thanks to Sr. Soph):
ATLANTA - Two U.S. men charged with aiding terrorists met with a group of terror suspects in Canada, and shot videos of Washington, D.C., landmarks that were later found on a computer belonging to another terror suspect in Britain, an FBI agent testified Monday.The disclosures by FBI agent Mark Richards came during a hearing in the case of Ehsanul Sadequee and Pakistani-born Syed Ahmed, both U.S. citizens, who are accused of undergoing training to carry out a "violent jihad" against civilian and government targets, including an air base in suburban Atlanta.
Authorities say the men wanted to plan attacks for "defense of Muslims or retaliation for acts committed against Muslims." They have pleaded not guilty to providing material support to terrorists and related conspiracy counts. No trial date has been set.
The terror sweep in Ontario in June 2006 involved an alleged plot to bomb buildings there. Charges against the suspects included participating in a terrorist group, importing weapons and planning a bombing.
Canadian authorities allege the 14 men and four youths were part of an al-Qaida-inspired cell. Prior to the arrest, some of the men allegedly purchased three tonnes of ammonium nitrate for a bomb. In September, the Crown decided to halt the preliminary hearing for the adults and proceed directly to trial.
At the time of the sweep, authorities said Ahmed and Sadequee had been in contact with some of the Canadian suspects via computer.
But Richards said at Monday's hearing that the two men also met in Toronto in 2005 with some of the people arrested in a terror sweep there a year later. Richards also said videos of the U.S. Capitol building and other Washington landmarks that were taken by Ahmed and Sadequee were later found on a computer in the United Kingdom belonging to a terror suspect there who has since been convicted.
I wonder if this cell is the tip of an iceberg
While the authorities continue to search into how different violent Jihad plans across the globe may be linked, allow me to offer a clue:
The Qur'an.
As a minimum they should be charged with high treason, given a fair and speedy trial (according to the constitution they seek to destroy) and taken out and shot. At a maximum, they should have their citizenship revoked, given a fair and speedy trial and taken out and shot.
Well that seems a little harsh. I guess if they get acquitted, they should have their citizenship revoked and deported to a muslim run country, since that's what they want America to become any way.
I was just watching this on Atlanta ABC station. They didn't say much of value except to announce that they weren't allowed to sketch the other FBI agent?
Put an ad in the paper stupid.
Several times people on here have asked which city will get nuked first in the US?
I heard somewhere that it would be Atlanta because of the CDC. Would slow down any recover efforts.
"Christians and other religious believers whose allegiance is to their religion first have no trouble reconciling this with being loyal citizens; what are American Muslim advocacy groups doing to inculcate similar attitudes among Muslims in this country?" -- Robert
Great Question! (as usual).
Answer: Nothing! (as usual).
Our neighbor to the north: The Islamic Republic of Canada, now suing Mark Steyn for unislamic behavior. Even the Saudis are afraid of Al Qaeda.
"What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."
Shakespeare
A more appropriate punishment would be to force these jihadists to watch the Dustin Hoffman & Warren Beatty film "Ishtar" over and over again. Oh, the horror...............
When you become a naturalized citizen in the U.S. you foreswear all allegience to foreign potentates, you swear respect for the constitution. These people lied under oath during their citizenship processing. Does that not invalidate the contract? Any lawyers out there? If I recieve money for a car, but then say I only have bikes, do I not have to give the money back? Is the contract not invalidated?
This is the problem with amnesty. It ignores our swearing in ceremonies which are designed with the understanding of the importance of allegience. If I hate America and want it destroyed, even if I have the right paperwork, I am not really an American. Being an American means rooting for America. Wanting to destroy our monuments pretty much proves you aren't pro-American. Again, these two lied under oath and their contract should be invalidated. The same goes for all who act for Jihad or perhaps even call for it after being naturalized.
www.culturism.us
culturist-
Islam is incompatable with the secular Constitution.
And contrary to the Bill of Rights.
And opposes the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Once these simple facts are grasped, everything Islam does is made understandable.
"Islam is not to be dominated, but must dominate" speaks the essential ideology of this imperialistic, theocratic tyranny.
Believing Muslims only have allegiance to Islam's drive for the eventual conquest of the world.
Which makes Mohammedans unable to become true citizens of anything but a wished-for Islamic Caliphate.
They are, meanwhile, moving into Dar-al-Harb as colonizers and infiltrators, not as honest immigrants or to become actual "Americans" (or "Europeans", etc.).
Their pretense of anything else is a calculated scheme and a sham.
Ask them.
After initial attempts at the usual "multicultural" disinformation and "tolerance" diversion, they generally admit that:
Their ultimate and only allegiance is to Islam.
And to hell with all infidel governments, laws and peoples.
The p.c. pretense that "we are all the same and all want the same things" is the folly of the soft-hearted (and soft-headed) infidel.
Muslims do not believe it.
And only say it tactically, in order to delude, weaken, undermine and sap the will of the naive in the West.
Of which we are suffering a bumper crop.
Starting at the top.
What CAIR and other Muslims in Canada don't want to talk about is how the RCMP went out of their way to meet with parents of a few of the jihadists that were around 15 and could change the course of their future befor they were fully sucked into the brainwashing by their 40+ muslim mentor that attended a local Mosque that had ties to some shady issues over hate speech in the Mosque .
One youth was a ex-Hindu and in just 16 months of endoctrine for Jihad and killing infidels for Muhammad he was ready to kill , his parent saw a drastic change in him that was like a detatched son with a secret life and little respect for canada or his parents.
The Khadr Klan Kids and Jihad mommy dearests were at the bail hearings in the full black saudi dress to hide their indentity or do a test-run for how easy it was to do Jihad as a suicide bomber in out Courtrooms.
Imam Aly Hindy was tied to these thugs and stated on TV that he wants Sharia law in canada and adulters to be murdered in public as punishment.
Most of the Toronto-17 were of pakistani background and lived among us , earlier the Toronto-19 were rounded-up as Illegals from Pakistan with fake ID and fake pasports.
Looks like Al-Qaeda saw the crack in the wall and went after Citizens ranther than sent Illegals to canada to slaughter civilians for allah.
Even the moderate Tarek Fatah was outside the courtroom in 2006 and cried "Racism" when the Media was there making this into a circus , I wonder how Tarek feels now that this is the second Terror cell with ties to pakistan that he has crusade for as victims of Racial profiling.
CAIR has been batting 1000 for every victim they supported until the evidence proved a terrorism link and then they became the untrue Muslims that hijacked islam.
What CAIR and other Muslims in Canada don't want to talk about is how the RCMP went out of their way to meet with parents of a few of the jihadists that were around 15 and could change the course of their future befor they were fully sucked into the brainwashing by their 40+ muslim mentor that attended a local Mosque that had ties to some shady issues over hate speech in the Mosque .
One youth was a ex-Hindu and in just 16 months of endoctrine for Jihad and killing infidels for Muhammad he was ready to kill , his parent saw a drastic change in him that was like a detatched son with a secret life and little respect for canada or his parents.
The Khadr Klan Kids and Jihad mommy dearests were at the bail hearings in the full black saudi dress to hide their indentity or do a test-run for how easy it was to do Jihad as a suicide bomber in out Courtrooms.
Imam Aly Hindy was tied to these thugs and stated on TV that he wants Sharia law in canada and adulters to be murdered in public as punishment.
Most of the Toronto-17 were of pakistani background and lived among us , earlier the Toronto-19 were rounded-up as Illegals from Pakistan with fake ID and fake pasports.
Looks like Al-Qaeda saw the crack in the wall and went after Citizens ranther than sent Illegals to canada to slaughter civilians for allah.
Even the moderate Tarek Fatah was outside the courtroom in 2006 and cried "Racism" when the Media was there making this into a circus , I wonder how Tarek feels now that this is the second Terror cell with ties to pakistan that he has crusade for as victims of Racial profiling.
CAIR has been batting 1000 for every victim they supported until the evidence proved a terrorism link and then they became the untrue Muslims that hijacked islam.
Wow. This is a true cross-border Islamist plot, yet there was still some idiot here slamming Canada within the first five or so posts.
Sigh. It'd be nice if everyone would finally clue in to the fact that we're all in this together. You cite our Human Rights Commission insanity, I'll cite your "Religion of Peace" president. And so on. Both countries need to get their acts together. Soon.
Sooner or later we're gonna run out of luck and we'll wake up one morning and find a city hit by Jihadists and hundreds if not thousands killed and wounded.
"Sooner or later we're gonna run out of luck and we'll wake up one morning and find a city hit by Jihadists and hundreds if not thousands killed and wounded.
Posted by: waltc"
...yep, and the dhimmicrats and the moveon.org groups will blame everyone except Islam...