Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 15, “Rock City”

Sura 15 is entitled Al-Hijr, which is translated variously as “The Valley of Stone,” “Stoneland,” “Rock City,” “Rocky Tract,” etc. Many translations do not render it in English at all, since it is a place name, referred to in v. 80 – Al-Hijr was yet another place that rejected the messengers of Allah and was destroyed. This is another late Meccan sura, revealed at a time of great tension between the Muslims and the pagan Quraysh of Mecca – and at a time when Muhammad himself was apparently feeling a bit discouraged, so that Allah makes some effort to cheer him up.

Verses 1-15 excoriate the perversity of the unbelievers. The Qur’an “makes things clear” (v. 1), and those who reject Islam will one day wish they had become Muslims (v. 2). According to Ibn ‘Abbas and Anas bin Malik, as well as Abu Musa, this verse responds to the taunts of the unbelievers to the sinful Muslims in hell. When the idolaters tell the Muslims that “what you used to worship on earth has not helped you,” Allah will be angry, and will remove the sinful Muslims from hell – and then the unbelievers, left in hell, will wish they had accepted Islam. But meanwhile, Muhammad should let the unbelievers enjoy life (v. 3), knowing that no one can escape the doom decreed by Allah (vv. 4-5). This sura seems to envision that doom as coming on the Day of Judgment, but later in Muhammad’s prophetic career, as we have seen in sura 9 and elsewhere, he began to see himself and the Muslims and instruments of Allah’s wrath for the unbelievers, including Jews and Christians.

The unbelievers mock Muhammad, calling him a madman (v. 6) and asking him for a miracle – to show them the angels (v. 7). But Allah doesn’t send angels to earth without good reason, and if he did, it would be to punish the unbelievers (v. 8). Allah will protect the Qur’an (v. 9), “against,” says the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, “substitution, distortion, additions and omissions.” That is why the prospect of alternate Qur’anic texts is so dangerous from a Muslim perspective – genuine alternate readings of the Qur’an would negate Allah’s promise in this verse.

Ibn Kathir explains vv. 11-13: “Consoling His Messenger for the rejection of the disbelieving Quraysh, Allah says that He has sent Messengers before him to the nations of the past, and no Messenger came to a nation but they rejected him and mocked him. Then He tells him that He lets disbelief enter the hearts of those sinners who are too stubborn and too arrogant to follow His guidance.” Here again, disbelief is a matter of the will of Allah, which cannot be rejected or overridden. But the unbelievers will not accept Islam even if they see tremendous visions (vv. 14-15).

Verses 16-27 speak of Allah’s creative power in fashioning the universe. We are reminded that he created various things, culminating in this arresting passage: “And verily, it is We Who give life, and Who give death: it is We Who are the Inheritor” (v. 23) – that is, the one who survives when all else perishes. Allah guards mankind from “every cursed devil” (v. 17), except “any that gains a hearing by stealth, is pursued by a flaming fire, bright” (v. 18). This is explained more fully in sura 37:7-10, where we learn that the rebellious spirits try to listen in to the goings-on of the “Exalted Assembly,” but cannot, as they are repulsed by a bright flame. Allah created human beings from “potter’s clay of black mud altered” (v. 26), and the jinn from “the fire of a scorching wind” (v. 27).

Verses 28-42 recount the creation of Adam, paralleling suras 2:30-39 and 7:11-25. Satan refuses Allah’s command to prostrate himself before Adam (v. 31), and is duly expelled from Paradise (v. 34), but is granted respite (v. 37), whereupon he vows to spend his time leading human beings astray (v. 39) – except Allah’s servants (v. 40), although Allah reveals one exception, telling Satan: “For over My servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee” (v. 42). The Tafsir al-Jalalayn explains that the two groups in this verse are simply believers and unbelievers: “in other words, truly over My servants, that is, believers, you shall have no warrant, [no] power, except those who follow you from among the perverse, the disbelievers.”

Verses 43-50 return to the pains of hell and the joys of Paradise. Hell has seven gates (v. 44). According to Ruhul Ma’ani, the Jews, the Christians, the polytheists, the hypocrites and others each get their own gate. Then verses 51-77 tell the story of Abraham, Lot, and the unnamed Sodom and Gomorrah – the account found in Genesis 17-19. Like other Qur’anic retellings of Biblical stories, the Qur’anic account is streamlined and shorn of subplots, so as to focus sharply on the rejection of truth and subsequent punishment of the disbelievers. Abraham’s visitors, messengers from Allah (v. 57), tell him that he will become a father despite his advanced age (vv. 53-55) and that they have come to rescue Lot and his people, except his wife (v. 60), as they punish the evildoers. Those evildoers come looking for the young men (v. 67) – that is, the messengers – but Lot pleads with them to take his daughters instead (v. 71). The city is destroyed (v. 74). Verses 78-84 recount the similar destruction of the “Companions of the Wood” (v. 78) and the “Companions of Rock City” (v. 80).

Finally, in verses 85-99 Allah consoles Muhammad for the rejection and ridicule that he has encountered from the unbelievers. He has shown great favor to Muhammad and the Muslims, giving them the “seven oft-repeated” verses – that is, sura 1, the Fatihah, the most often-repeated prayer in Islam, and the Qur’an. They should not be envious of what Allah has given to other men, or grieve over the unbelievers (v. 88) – the Muslims should, in the words of Ibn Kathir, “be content with the Grand Qur’an that Allah has given to you, and do not long for the luxuries and transient delights that they have.” Those who have “made the Qur’an into parts” (v. 91) are, according to Ibn ‘Abbas, “the People of the Book, who divided the Book into parts, believing in some of it, and rejecting some of it.” Others, however, say that it refers to the Quraysh, who, by charging that Muhammad was insane or possessed, were making the Qur’an into parts. According to Ibn Ishaq, the Quraysh held a meeting on who they thought Muhammad really was, considering the possibility that he might be a soothsayer, or crazy, or a poet, or a sorcerer, before finally deciding on the latter and triggering the revelation of v. 94), until “there come unto thee the Hour that is Certain” (v. 99).

Next week: Sura 16, “The Bee”: “He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same man becomes an open disputer!”

(Here you can find links to all the earlier "Blogging the Qur'an" segments. Here is a good Arabic Qur’an, with English translations available; here are two popular Muslim translations, those of Abdullah Yusuf Ali and Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, along with a third by M. H. Shakir. Here is another popular translation, that of Muhammad Asad. And here is an omnibus of ten Qur’an translations.)

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It is interesting how mohammed cogitates islam to perpetrate his murder on people who will not follow him (i.e. infidels). Perhaps we need a psychoanalytical interpretation of mohammed first and the koran second.

It seems to me that mohammed's god is an irrational hateful delusional god. Why create man where mohammed's allah "lets disbelief enter the hearts of those sinners who are too stubborn and too arrogant to follow his guidance."

What guidance is mohammed talking about? His own? Mohammed's koran? Failure to follow mohammed's prescripts of the koran achieves you painful punishment for eternity for what? For being immodest? For drinking wine? For not praying 5 times a day? For not killing infidels? For not fighting until everybody agrees to a conception of allah as mohammed has set it out? Whatever moslems believe this should be incarcerated either in hospitals or prisons.

If I do not submit to mohammed I am treated in a horrific way. This hate of infidels is fashioned on a psychotic paranoid fear. Being the instrument of the destruction of others for not submitting to mohammed, or his allah is the essence of what all should agree is psychotic and anti social behavior implicit in islam or submission to mohammed. This is used to subsequently justify its criminality towards infidels.

Perhaps we need a psychoanalytical interpretation of mohammed first and the koran second.- Posted by: David England

"Understanding Muhammad, A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet" by Ali Sina is such a book. Get it if you can. If anyone is aware of the status on re-production of this book, kindly post details.

From above:

Allah will be angry, and will remove the sinful Muslims from hell

Muhammed’s Allah is no illah. An impotent fool this Allah - sensitive to being mocked for it’s multicultural experiment in hell? It figures that such a petulant dyspathetic deity is but the figment of imagination of a desert dwelling narcissist.

Chapter 15 Al-Hijr; its Date of Revelation and Context

According to the consensus of scholarly opinion the Sūrah was revealed at Mecca. In the earlier preceding Sūrah it is pointed out that through the former Prophets possessed no material means, yet their mission progressed and prospered because they had The Word of God with them; the present Sūrah emphatically declares that ‘Word of God’ is a great force before which no worldly power can stand. Forging of lies against God is not a thing to be trifled with and imposters and forgers of lies against God soon meet their deserved end, and it is stated that the Qur’an is the revealed Word of God and possesses irrefutable proofs to establish its Devine origin.

Subject-Matter

The basic theme of the Sūrah is that no heavenly Scripture can approach the Qur’an in beauty of diction and style and in the grandeur of its contents. It is a revealed Scripture par excellence. It stands unequalled and unrivalled in every respect. Its beauties and good qualities are so many and so varied that even disbelievers on occasion are forced to confess that they possess nothing like it and wish that they too had possessed a Scripture like it. In spite of this confession on their part, they do not see their way to accept it and do not realize that by their refusal to accept the Qur’an they would be deprived of truth and would draw upon themselves the displeasure and punishment of God. The Quranic Message is bound to succeed and nothing can stand in its way. Those who hesitate of refuse to accept it will themselves be the sufferers. The Sūrah then states that id the Quranic revelations of previous Prophets also were held up to scorn. But the scoffers do not appreciate this patent fact that it is no easy thing to forge lies against God, because to do so is to invite sure destruction. The All-Powerful God sees to it that lies are not successfully forged against Him and that a forgery becomes easily distinguished from His revealed Word. He vouchsafes it a special distinction and eminence and creates a favourable atmosphere for its acceptance by right thinking men, and raises those who accept it from a low to a very high level of moral excellence.

Question Arise

The question arises that after all; why Mr Robert Spencer is all out to carry out such a research at an extra ordinary scale blogging of Quran and at the same time engaging many a well known Medias to propagate his contributions?

The crux of the matter is that certainly all his efforts are not to spread the Word of God for the masses in positive terms but to misguide them and keep them away from the truth.

This is same old habits of Jews that Mr Robert Spencer is unable to resist. He aims at twisting the facts to present the Quranic version in some distorted fashions; the same old habits for which the Jews many a times earned a scorn of God Almighty in the past and were placed defunct till the time the merciful God gave them some respite to…at least do one thing…repent.

And Allah says in 6:145: “Who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah that He may lead men astray without knowledge? Surely, Allah guides not the unjust people.
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Love for all, Hatred for none

Man creates God. Why else do our Gods act so silly?

Khokar:

Can you point to a single thing in my exposition of Sura 15, or any other part of the Qur'an, that is actually false?

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Love for all, Hatred for none.
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Something you found in Kuran, Hadith, or Sira?

How in the world someone who adores The Manifesto of Hate conceived in the mind of a sadistic murderer, rapist, thief and pedophile can utter these words and hope to be taken seriously?
True, we infidels are not too smart, but anyone who thinks so little of our intelligence is a bloody idiot.

6:145: “Who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah that He may lead men astray without knowledge? Surely, Allah guides not the unjust people.

Khokar,
And what gives you, or any man, the right to decide who is unjust in the eyes of Allah? When was the last time he spoke to you? Did you ever consider that maybe it was Mohammad who led people astray for his own benefit and self-aggrandizement?

Dear Mr Robert Spencer,

I would like to thank you for your kind gesture to respond my comments and I duly appreciate the zeal and earnest devotions shown in your other works.

I understand that you had started research of Quran under the name of ‘Blogging Quran’ since 27 May 2007. Earlier on, I was also able to watch your presentation made at Heritage foundations of your well sought book,” Truth About Muhammad’*; which was classified in your circles as a sure kill to disrepute the Holy Prophet of Islam Muhammad ( peace be upon him). It was also recognised as an ‘effort’ to blemish him and prove him as false prophet; and also maligning his followers…the Muslim lot on many other accounts.

You have so for done blogging for some 15 chapters of Quran and 99 more are to be tackled with. (Total-114). At the end this will become a book of your ‘Short Commentary’ of Glorious Quran. You also claim that you have not subscribed any thing which is false; but do you really think that it will earn its placing as a good addition and be called a real ‘Islamic Book’? (Certainly not .) And what about your book mentioned above; ‘Truth about Muhammad’*? Where would you like that to be counted?

We all know that no religion and specially Islam; the latest refined verdict in the field of divine religions, do not promote any kind of terror or extremism. Extremism found in certain spheres is the out come of socio-economic and political (geographical) issues concerning the followers which may be falling beyond the scope of their religious periphery. For example the famous pathology of Arab Nationalism was initiated, soon after, when the Arabs revolted against Ottoman Empire. It created a split of Arab world from the reins of Islam under Turk. The Centuries old connections with the traditional aspirations of knowledge, wisdom, sciences; the true founding essence of glory of Islam, emanating from the lands of– Persia and Turks, were severed. In pursuance of the pathology of Arab Nationalism; new motives were worked out to build up the ‘Arabists culture’ and infuse other various practices in Arab lands. A famous motto was initiated (in 1933); "There is something more important than money and learning for preserving the honour of a nation and for keeping humiliation at bay”, it emphasised that, "That is strength; Strength….mean to excel in the Profession of Death." There after; this theme was vigorously cultivated among masses by the radicals.

When the greatest values are set as to preach and glorify death by the radicals; what kind of ideology, what kind of society, what kind of values; could such priorities produce?’

‘There is long list of victims of these radicals: king Abdullah of Jordan, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri of Lebanon, bold author Farouk Fawda in Egypt, Iraqi Sunnis who dare seek compromise, Palestinian moderates, Algerian modernists, and thousands of women who seek a moderate degree of freedom. Benazir Bhutto happens to be the latest victim in Pakistan.’

‘These radical forces in the region are not expecting to retain or gain power by negotiating, compromising, or being better understood. They believe they are going to shoot their way into power or, just as good, accept the surrender of those they have intimidated.’ (Islam here is more of a victim than others.)

These radicals are found all over, in all the religions; Christianity. Judaic, Hinduism or Islam; there is no exception any where. So this may not be correct to blame a particular religion of the people that a particular people follow at the time; where as the religions may have got nothing to do with the issues.

History tells us that the older denominations in religion have the tendency to give a cold shoulder to the latest commandments and try to refute at the outset; but that should not give them an excuse to malign their successors who may (invariably) stand more learned. Let’s find out our commonalities and work out the cause and injustices to fight the evils from our societies and do something good which may let us live in peace and harmony.

With best of regards

A khokar

Hey A khokar
YOu did not answer Mr. Spencer's question in that long psyco-babble. It is a short question:

Can you point to a single thing in my exposition of Sura 15, or any other part of the Qur'an, that is actually false?

I am a simple person, I like short answers.

Why don't you try again?

Hi Dentalque,
Although this should have been amply clear from my previous submission; but since you have asked for the forthright blunt answer; so I must say that:

If it is not false then it should be accurate, correct, factual, precise, true and valid but unfortunately in my opinion and I am sorry to say that his effort are not in recognition of the truth in accordance with the spirit of Islam. They are deliberately made deceptive. They are not genuine or real and bear an abhorrent fallacious designs with the aim to show the prophet of Islam an apostate, a sham and bearing a shady character. (Moaz Allah). His sole aim is to intimidate and mislead the common masses having little or no knowledge.

In view of the above; I think his efforts can be graded as FALSE.

Muslims claim: "no heavenly Scripture can approach the Qur’an in beauty of diction and style and in the grandeur of its contents". WRONG.

Let's hear Rabbi Shaul/ Paul, writing to a bunch of mostly Gentile followers of Yeshua/ Jesus, in Corinth, in the first century AD. Note that in this translation the English word 'charity' does NOT refer to almsgiving, but translates the koine Greek word 'agape' [= brotherly love, from agapa'o, 'welcome, entertain, love dearly'].

"Though I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity , I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
Charity suffereth long, and is kind;
charity envieth not;
charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up;
doth not behave itself unseemy,
seeketh not her own,
is not easily provoked,
thinketh no evil.
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face; now I know in part; but then shall I know even as I am known [i.e. as I am known by G-d].
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."
St Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, chapter 13.

For a breathtaking musical and visual meditation on this passage, get out a dvd of Kieslowski's film "Three Colours: Blue", and watch it. Zbigniew Preisner created a glorious instrumental and choral setting for the original Greek text of large portions of this chapter, one of the glories of the Christian scriptures; it forms the crown and conclusion of the film.

Watch for the sequence depicting an ultrasound image of the unborn child in the womb, as a lone soprano sings, exquisitely: 'faith, hope, love, these three abide: but the greatest of these is charity', meizon de touton he agape.

I would far rather read, and reflect upon, 1 Corinthians 13, or the four Gospels, or the first letter of John, or the book of Exodus, the Psalms, the Song of Solomon/ Shir ha-Shirim, and the book of Isaiah, than ANY portion of the Quran.

There is no comparison. The Bible is bread and honey for the soul. The Quran is... hashish.

For those who want to rinse after tasting The Koran, here's a way to read "GOD IS NOT GREAT", Christopher Hitchens' bestseller, for free online:

http://www.questia.com/read/112894706

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=9044

“Mr Robert Spencer, director of Jihadwatch.com (an anti Islamic web site) is time and again repeating the same folly and trekking the same old ways of his ancestors. He is now trying to obliterate even the Quranic Verses with the aim to keep the common folk away from the word of Truth and misguide the masses. He has come up with funny details on Hotair.com; with intent to misguide the masses.”

“Jihad watch; if we read in between the lines; is nothing else but a assemblage of few; putting up all their best efforts to ward off every reader of its forum from the blessing and path of God almighty and His latest scripture; Holy Quran. Jihad Watch Leaves no stone unturned to find a piece of news pertaining to Muslims; any where in the four corners of the Earth; that they grab it; twist it and present it here with the aim to under mine and blot and blemish the Holy Teachings of Islam; and… thinking- they have done a great job.”

“Efforts, hard work or investment put into any research, in it self bears no value; what matters most is the ‘aim’ and the ‘mind set’ implied; which must be taken to the account. No one may have any objection in the research in the Holy Book of Quran; because this book is for the guidance of the entire mankind but it is the vicious design and sheepish zeal which is reflected here; in order to blemish the teaching of Divine Scripture and an endeavour to misguide the ignorant masses on purpose. This effort of Robert Spencer … puts his forum Of Jihadwatch.com in the list of the assailants; who are at work against the humanity.”

“Love for all, Hatred for none”
A Khokar

Hey A Khokar

In your answer to me you stated that it was "in your opinion." You still have not answered his question. Opinions are not facts.

Here is my opinion. You have blinders on. The Quran is not a perfect book. In fact, Moby Dick is much better book. It has a whale. The Quran hardly mentions Jonas.

As for the "guidance of the entire mankind ." It is not the Quakers crashing planes into buildings. It is not the Jews who send their children to blow up. No one has pictures of up on youtube holding guns in one hand and a St. James Bible in the other.

Take a good look at yourself. Read something else once in a while.

Hi Dentalque and friends,

Dentalque post of February 12, 2008 9:43 AM refers:

Facts go with truth and reality; where as a man can express his opinion only. I tried to narrate it as true. It is up to you the way you measure my statement. What all you have contributed above; it is also your opinion as per your knowledge of the case and the know how that you possess and your mind set. Although there are numerous horizons found in this universe but no one travels and compasses beyond his thoughts and level of knowledge.

Mind you; a true Muslim is suppose to be a better Christian or a better Jew than any staunch Christian or Jew on this planet…Did you know that?

Why I say this; because the Glorious Quran where admonishes the believers to beat the path of righteousness only; it warns them with the stories and parables of, by gone denominations like Christian, Judaic and others. Quran contains the name of Jesus* some 700 % times more than the Prophet Muhammad*, i.e. Jesus is mentioned some 28 times where as Muhammad* has got his name mentioned just for 4 times. If Quran was some concoction of Muhammad*; he would have not allowed Jesus* name in it except as a passing by remarks.

Mary* the mother of Jesus*; her name is mentioned in the Glorious Quran for 31 times. Like wise various stories with the name of Moses are categorically described for some 162 times.

You also touched upon Jonah*. Please correct your data. For your information Prophet Jonah* is mentioned in Glorious Quran for some 4 times in Chapter 4:164, in 6:87,10:99, 37:140;plus a whole chapter number 10 containing 110 verses has the title named as Jonah*.

You did talk about Moby Dick Novel; I know that it is one of the best old novels which tell the adventures of a character Ishmael the sailor and his master Ahab who go after hunting a ferocious whale called Moby Dick and there by also explaining the complex theme of a man’s connection with God and the belief.

Many thanks.

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(*Peace and blessing be upon them all)

Here you go again , Khokar trying to hide behind eloquent retoric to mollify and justify the all out brutal behavior of an entire group of people. You all believe in the same things no matter how you explain it. You are the umma.We are the ones who are taking it upon ourselves to know all we can about you and your umma. Robert is nothing more than a wonderful resource and outlet for our enlightenment. Don't blame him for our desire to get to know you better. If you weren't so defensive all the time you might be able to help us understand the barbaric behavior of a wide variety of muslims throughout the world. And please quit acting like you have a direct connection with God . I ain't buying it.

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YUSUFALI: Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

Feel the love?

With reference to Post of Dumbledoresarmy of February 11, 2008 9:10 PM

Dear Friends,

The books Torah, Gospel and Glorious Quran all are the words of God. All were sent down by the God for the guidance of the people as per the requirement and all the books specify their extent and territories of teachings. The book of Torah was for the guidance of Judaic followed by Jesus, who was given the Gospel in order to reform the disintegrating 12 tribes (sheep) of Judaic. Both the books claim to carry a special revelations and solutions as sought by the people of the time and required to serve the purpose in accordance with the attained level of their consciousness.

Where as Quran is the last Book revealed by God, a book of guidance to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) which confirms the old teachings. It is not only meant for the Muslims but this book is for the entire mankind… to come.

The God Almighty reveals to Muhammad (pbuh) and says:

[14: 2] “Alif Lam Ra. This is a Book which We have revealed to thee that thou mayest bring mankind out of the depths of darkness into light, by the command of their Lord, to the path of the Mighty, the Praiseworthy”

[2: 137] “Say ye, 'We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob and his children, and what was given to Moses and Jesus, and what was given to all other Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them; and to Him we submit ourselves.”

SURELY there is no coercion in religion and Allah knowth his people well that they are suppose to take time to comprehend and adapt to the new teachings. Thus God also leaves a provision and assures;

[2 : Verse 63]; “ Surely, those who believe and the Jews and the Christians and the Sabians - whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds, shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve.”
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A Khokar at February 12, 2008 8:02 PM
I did not say Jonah was not mentioned, I said he is hardly mentioned:

Surah 10, “Jonah,” dates from late in the Meccan period, the first part of Muhammad’s prophetic career. Its name comes from v. 98, where the prophet Jonah is mentioned in passing.

Note the phrase IN PASSING. You know that the titles of the Suras have very little to do with the content. I measure your statements with facts. That's my Universe/Reality.


A Khokar at February 12, 2008 8:02 PM
I did not say Jonah was not mentioned, I said he is hardly mentioned:

Surah 10, “Jonah,” dates from late in the Meccan period, the first part of Muhammad’s prophetic career. Its name comes from v. 98, where the prophet Jonah is mentioned in passing.

Note the phrase IN PASSING. You know that the titles of the Suras have very little to do with the content. I measure your statements with facts. That's my Universe/Reality.

Sorry for the double post. Feel free to delete one and this. Thanks.

Dentalque,

This is a sweet will of God and is only best known to Him; whether God likes to mentions the name of Jonah in Quran for once or four times…or God mentions his name in passing* or misses all together. It should not bother us. We should only be worried; that WHERE we stand? (Recipient of His blessings or a candidate of wrath?)

And pray that He guides us to the truth;
Prayer:
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful
[1:2] All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
[1:3] The Gracious, the Merciful,
[1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.
[1:5] Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[1:6] Guide us in the right path --
[1:7] The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.

Amen.
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Love for all, Hatred for none

"Whoever changes his religion, kill him". (Bukhari)

Wait…I think I…yes, yes, there it is…I feel the love…of death.


Imamerican post dated February 12,2008 1046 PM refers

Hi imamerican and Friends,

My friend I admire Mr Robert Spencer the most and am praiseworthy of his efforts and devotion that he is putting in to achieve the set goals. He is a man of a stature and I can see his deep seeded craving to carry out a research in the field of extremism and on going war against terror. But he has adopted a wrong route to full fill his dreams and looks like that he is fallen prey to the Neocons (Neoconservative) hegemonic policies; which have plagued the politics of the America and defamed the USA, the sole super power in the eyes of the World.

The rapacious greed of Neocons hems at subjugating the poor defenceless people of the world and deprive them off their lucrative resources and lands; like oil etc for their own economic use. The war on Terrorism is a phoney war basing on the fallacy, deceit and deception to advance the evil designs of Neocons. Some how Jihad Watch where aim should be to eradicate the evils like Extremism in all the religions including Islam, Christianity, Judaism and others is seen as a tool; a facilitator; helping the ‘Nihilistic Policies of Neocons’ to create anarchy and mayhem in the troubled areas of the world.

A man of God should serve the God only and strive to promote the Truth and Word of God.
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Blah, blah, Robert Spencer, blah, blah, wrong route, blah, blah, fallen prey, blah, blah, hegemonic policies, blah, blah, defamed the USA, blah, blah.

Blah, blah, rapacious greed of Neocons, blah, blah, subjugate, blah, blah, deprive, blah, blah. Blah, blah, phony war, blah, blah, evil designs of Neocons. Blah, blah, Jihad Watch, blah, blah, seen as a tool, blah, blah, Neocons, blah, blah, anarchy and mayhem, blah, blah, world.

Leftist drivel. Factual ignorance. You wouldn’t know the truth if it fell on you.

Any human being on this planet that claims to love all and hate none is either a liar or a fool. It is not our nature. Of course a good brain washing can change nature’s design but history has shown that it usually ends badly. It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.

God bless Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch, a warm fire in the cold darkness of our time.

Butterflies are soft and good to look at; fluttering and flapping their wings. Some time they are seen with the eye-spots developed on the wings to create a deterring effect; but alas their wings are very delicate and brittle. It doesn’t take them very long. Their experience is limited. Beautiful they may be but their past they can’t deny that they belong to the savage caterpillar family.

With all the worldly camouflage and concealment available; their nature and fallacious intents certainly show up!

Butterfly; God does not directs us to adopt left route or right route; God inspires us to adopt the straight path. It starts at Adam* to Abraham* to Moses* to Jesus* to Muhammad* and on to Heaven.
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Love for all, Hatred for none

(*Peace be upon them all)

We butterflies are simply one of God’s many meek creations. We have no desire to rule the forest. We wish only to be left alone, to drink the nectar of life without fear of being eaten and the “fallacious intent” of our camouflage allows us to do just that for the most part. For at least 70 million years we have imbibed from the sweet flowers of the forest, our young have consumed its tender leaves (yes, “savagely” feasting on yummy leaves), and we have bred in many of its beautiful places. We possess strength and weakness unique to our successful design and survival. Over the ages we have equipped our young with camouflage, poison, prickly spines, and a secretion of sugary treats to enlist the protection of the great warrior clan, Ants. We do all of this to shield our kind from the carnivores, the raptors, the reptiles, the animals that kill us to survive. But today there is a new danger in the wind called Islam. It carries a sickness of the mind and we, presently, are defenseless against it, for it has not been recognized by all the other inhabitants of the forest as a threat. Yes, we are soft and small, but being soft and small does not preclude action or bravery. When the time comes, and it will, where Islam is recognized for the true danger it is, it will be driven from the forest by a frenzied force, the likes of which have not been seen before. Then we, the butterflies, can resume to our humble lives. We have a duty to protect our lives and our forest. Islam is a danger to both. It is the enemy. Let the battle begin.

Jesus forgave. Muhammad enslaved.

Jesus lived by the word. Muhammad lived by the sword.

Jesus turned the other cheek to his enemies. Muhammad murdered his enemies.

Not the same kind of man. Not the same path. Not the same god.

I have no love for you. While you may not personally threaten my kind, you spread the mind sickness, thus, you are the enemy. I hate Islam. It is the antithesis of love, freedom, and independent thought. May it, and the twisted vine from which it was conceived, rot in the Son.







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“My comrade-in-arms, my pal, my buddy.”
Oriana Fallaci

“Robert Spencer incarnates intellectual courage when, all over the world, governments, intellectuals, churches, universities and media crawl under a hegemonic Universal Caliphate’s New Order. His achievement in the battle for the survival of free speech and dignity of man will remain as a fundamental monument to the love of, and the self-sacrifice for, liberty.”
Bat Ye’or

“Robert Spencer is indefatigable. He is keeping up the good fight long after many have already given up. I do not know what we would do without him. I appreciate all the intelligence and courage it takes to keep going despite the appeasement of the West.”
Ibn Warraq

“America's most informed, fearless, and compelling voice on modern jihadism.”
Andrew C. McCarthy, Senior Fellow at National Review Institute

“Robert Spencer is the leading voice of scholarship and reason in a world gone mad. If the West is to be saved, we will owe Robert Spencer an incalculable debt.”
Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

"The consummate Islam critic and expert." — Bruce Bawer

“Over the years, we have become friends, and I have received his assistance on several pieces of legislation I proposed.”
Former Congressman Tom Tancredo

“Few people are capable of applying scholarship, analytical reasoning, and objectivity to their topic -- while simultaneously being readable and witty -- as can Robert Spencer.”
Raymond Ibrahim

“A national treasure...The acclaimed scholar of Islam.”
Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy

“I am indeed honored to call him my friend.”
Brad Thor, novelist

“A top American analyst of Islam....A serious scholar...I learn from him.”
Daniel Pipes

“A brilliant scholar and writer.”
Douglas Murray

"One of my best teachers."
Ashraf Ramelah, Voice of the Copts

“Thank God there’s at least one man with balls left in the West.”
Kathy Shaidle, Five Feet of Fury

“I read people like [Mark Steyn] and Bob Spencer and the rest of them, and I say, ‘Boortz, you’re pretending you’re an author. These people really are. They really write some entertaining, some standup stuff.’”
Neal Boortz

“Robert Spencer is the Stephen King of Jihad.”
Chris Gaubatz, Muslim Mafia

“Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization.”
Michelle Malkin

“Widely read in conservative foreign policy circles.”
New York Times

“Widely read in many quarters in Washington.”
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“A canny operative who likely has the inside track on the State Department’s Middle East affairs desk should the tea party win the White House.”
New York Magazine

“A hero of the American right.”
Karen Armstrong

"The leading anti-Islamic intellectual in the United States....The go-to Islam expert for the right wing."
Salon Magazine

“Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”
Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

“One of the nation's most notorious Islamophobes.”
Hamas-linked CAIR

"Geller and Spencer are probably the most important propagandizing Islamophobes in the world. These people's voices speak very loudly — not just here in the United States but overseas."
Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

“Satanic ignoramus.”
Khaleel Mohammed

“The Likud anti-Christ.”
Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

“Zionist Crusader, missionary of hate, counter-Islam consultant.”
Al-Qaeda’s Adam Gadahn, “Azzam the American”



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