Egypt: Bahá’ís win partial victory on question of religion on identity cards, but...

Instead of having to choose between "of the three Monotheistic religions recognised by the state," (i.e., Judaism, Christianity, or Islam) they can opt for a hyphen, or the word "without." They still can't call themselves Bahá’ís on official identification cards.

Islamic Tolerance Alert, and an update on this story. "A Question of Faith," by Gamal Nkrumah for Al-Ahram Weekly:

Bahaai community in Egypt, local and international human rights organisations warmly welcomed an Administrative Court ruling this Tuesday (29 January), which reversed the official state policy of denying essential identity documents to Egyptians who do not wish to be identified in official documents as adherents of the three Monotheistic religions recognised by the state.
Bahaai Egyptians, leading a legal battle over the past few years to be certified as Bahaais on official documents, won a first step court ruling to that effect in April 2006. The 2006 court ruling, however, was overturned later by the Supreme Administrative Court.
This week's new sentence seems to meet the Bahaais' demand half way, since while rejecting the demand that the Bahaai faith is a religion, it allowed those who do not wish to be identified as followers of Islam, Christianity or Judaism to have official documents in which the religion category would either be filled by a "hyphen" or the word "without".
"This is not just a victory for the Bahaai community of Egypt, but it is also a victory for all those Egyptians who do not adhere to the three monotheistic religions," Hossam Bahgat, director of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR) told Al-Ahram Weekly. "For the first time in contemporary Egyptian history, an individual who professes Hinduism or Buddhism, or even those wishing to call themselves non-believers, could enjoy full citizenship rights. That in itself is a great advance of human rights and will tremendously enhance the country's human rights record," Bahgat explains.
Basma Moussa, a leader and spokeswoman of the Bahaai community of Egypt, concurs. She was ecstatic. "This ruling is what we have been struggling to achieve for years. At last our prayers have been answered. We are extremely grateful that justice has been served and that finally we can lead normal lives as Egyptian citizens," Moussa says.
Labib Iskandar, a leading Egyptian Bahaai, and a professor of engineering at Cairo University laments that, "we used to move about without personal identification cards. That is a criminal offence in Egypt. We could be stopped by police at any moment, anywhere and asked for our ID."
"Inability to produce an ID card entails a five-year prison sentence," Moussa, a dentist and an assistant lecturer at Cairo University says. "The civil status law makes it obligatory for every Egyptian citizen to carry on his or her personal ID card".
"These documents are essential to obtain education and employment, register births, immunise children, and conduct basic transactions such as opening a bank account, obtaining a driver's licence, or collecting a pension," Bahgat extrapolates.
"A previous ruling by the Supreme Administrative Court in December 2006 had upheld the state policy of refusing to recognise the religious affiliation of Bahaais in official documents, arguing that such recognition would violate public order and Sharia [Islamic law] requirements," Bahgat explains.

That ruling also described them as "pro-Israeli apostates."

The December 2006 ruling prompted Bahaai Egyptians to file two other lawsuits -- the subject of Tuesday's ruling -- requesting documents that do not list any religious affiliation. "The new cases, filed by EIPR lawyers, argued that forcing Bahaais to identify falsely as Muslim or Christian violated their rights to freedom of conviction, privacy, equality and full citizenship rights," Bahgat notes.
Bahaais began to experience grave difficulties beginning in 1995, when the authorities insisted that all Egyptians had to acquire or replace personal documents with computerised ones from the central Civil Registry Office in the Ministry of Interior.
It is hoped that this week's ruling would finally allow Bahaai Egyptians to obtain birth certificates and computerised identity cards leaving the religious category void.
Bahgat, Iskandar and Moussa hope that the state would implement the ruling as soon as possible. "We urge the government to implement the decision without delay, and not to appeal this clear verdict of the court," Bahgat says.
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Thanks, for linking to Al-Ahram, Marisol, here's a lovely cartoon by Gomaa in the same issue.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/882/cartoon.htm
I thought it was the Egyptians who are plugging up the border?
And a veiled threat to the US to continue the jizya or Egypt jumps over to its new friend Iran.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/882/eg4.htm

"She was ecstatic. "This ruling is what we have been struggling to achieve for years. At last our prayers have been answered."


....this for for an ID card....imagine the joy if religious plurality was acheived, or the actual right obtained to walk down the streets without the fear of discrimination or physical violence by militant Muslims.

Mohammed never said he was the last prophet.

Could it be that the Baha'i faith is what Muslims should be following?

Time to start the discrimination! Death for heretics! Never question the mullahs! Time to turn off our brains!

Identification on the basis of religion is an affront to one's freedom of conscience and right to privacy, notions that are foreign to Moslem sensibilities. Why should anyone be obliged to identify their religious affiliation, unless it be for the purpose of discrimination? That the Baha'is wish to be identified as such is understandable on the one hand but mystifying on the other: Will such identification lead to harrassment as Coptic Christians and Jews have had to endure in Egypt? Will the harrassment in fact be more aggressive, given Baha'i's perceived position as a heresy by Moslems? Better to have no mention of religious affiliation at all on identification cards in Egypt.

"Could it be that the Baha'i faith is what Muslims should be following?" - tanstaafi

I am a Baha'i adherent, and from what I've read from the Kitáb-i-Aqdas and other writings, it almost seems to me like the Baha'i religion is the "real" peaceful interpretation of Islam. There are many similarities between the two religions, but there are also some very huge differences as well. Jihad anyone? I've not yet encountered any encouragement of "Holy War" in the Baha'i scriptures, in fact, it is outright forbidden.

That said though, whether Muslims should be following the Baha'i faith, of course they should. Every one should!!!!! :P Haha, just kidding, but I do know that it is very difficult to convince people to give up their beliefs, even as the sink is shipping. If anything that might even produce the effect whereby one would embrace their beliefs more strongly.

I suppose that it would be nice if jihadists believed in anything but what they do now.

Worshiping toasters and other kitchen implements? Sure, better than........

ThinkForYourself - I like to remember a favorite saying of Martin Luther King's - "The arc of history is long and it bends towards justice."

Haha. I said the "sink is shipping". Whoops. Well we might as throw in everything but the kitchen sink, no? Let me try another analogy then...There is nothing more dangerous than a wounded cornered beast. That is what we are up against!!!

Your MLK saying reminds me of one of my favourites by Ghandi:

Remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.

And the mark of the Beast will be had by all.