"Jihad is a holy struggle in the name of Allah": India jihad suspect wanted to target U.S.

More on Mohammed Ghouse: "Bangalore terror suspect wanted to target US," from the Times of India:

DAVANAGERE: Suspected terrorist Riyazuddin Nasir alias Mohammed Ghouse wanted to visit the United States and spread terror there, he has told interrogators.
Since it was difficult to gain entry into the US, Ghouse had twice pleaded with terrorist leaders to at least send him to Iraq to work as a fidayeen — an extremist who equips himself with arms and ammunition and strikes a target, causing mass destruction.
However, the terrorist leaders persuaded him to drop the idea as they thought "there is so much to do in India".

Think globally; wage jihad locally.

Ghouse, who was well informed about post-9/11 incidents, grudged the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Investigations have revealed that Ghouse visited Mecca thrice for umrah (a pilgrimage undertaken during the non-Haj season), on a family passport that had a validity of 10 years up to December 2006.
He first visited Mecca as a child in 1996. In 2005, during his second trip, he met Abdul Samad, brother of South India's most wanted terrorist, Shahid Bilal, and reportedly expressed his willingness to go to Iraq as a fidayee to fight American forces.
However, his plan did not materialize. In 2006, Samad got Ghouse a fake passport and sent him to Pakistan. While undergoing training there, Ghouse again expressed his keenness to go to Iraq. But Bilal stopped him.
After Ghouse completed his training in Pakistan — from May 2006 to January 2007 — he was sent to India through the Nepal border with a mission: indulge in subversion and disturb peace.
Besides use of arms and explosives, Ghouse was trained in operating computers, reading and drawing maps, sketching and horse riding. "He has a graphic memory and is very quick in drawing maps," a police officer says.
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Ghouse had planned to blast the Andhra Pradesh police headquarters in Hyderabad. The arrest of his father and brother, and the case booked against him by the Hyderabad police, made a teenage Ghouse drop out of college and take the path of jihad.
A senior IPS officer narrates an argument he had with Ghouse on jihad. When the officer pointed out that Islam shuns violence, Ghouse is supposed to have said: "Jihad is a holy struggle in the name of Allah." The officer says: "After half an hour, I gave up because I realized it would be impossible to convince him."
Ghouse and his associate Asadullah Abubaker, who were arrested in Davanagere district on charges of terrorism, are in police custody.
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Ho-hum.

/adding another Islamic death threat to the pile - with a ladder

Ghouse had planned to blast the Andhra Pradesh police headquarters in Hyderabad. The arrest of his father and brother, and the case booked against him by the Hyderabad police, made a teenage Ghouse drop out of college and take the path of jihad.
There, see! I knew it was the oppressive Hyderabad police that drove him to Jihad!!! Otherwise, he'd have flown thru college with honors...
A senior IPS officer narrates an argument he had with Ghouse on jihad. When the officer pointed out that Islam shuns violence, Ghouse is supposed to have said: "Jihad is a holy struggle in the name of Allah." The officer says: "After half an hour, I gave up because I realized it would be impossible to convince him."
Too bad the story doesn't explicitly give the name of the officer, which might have revealed whether or not he was Muslim. I'm guessing that he wasn't, in which case, it's fascinating that he'd try and teach a Muslim what Islam states about violence. I also wonder whether Ghouse spent that half hour citing Quran and Sunnah to him and convincing him otherwise. From the officer's concluding statement, I doubt that he came away enlightened.

If he was Muslim, that conversation should have been documented.

We should take all 200 million of them and ship them out of India into Pakiland and Bangladesh. Then we'll see how to Jihad against one another for basic needs.

India was divided in 1947 on the basis of religion, the Muslims got Pakistan and India got more Muslims than Pakistan....what happened to the exchange of populations?....the deal sucks.

-Ayo Gorkhali

Gorkhali

Nice to see you back.

I wonder if the Indian police are as conscious of this Jihadi's human rights, as we are in the UK.

The most telling part of the whole story:

When the officer pointed out that Islam shuns violence, Ghouse is supposed to have said: "Jihad is a holy struggle in the name of Allah." The officer says: "After half an hour, I gave up because I realized it would be impossible to convince him."

As someone else wondered - was the officer even Muslim?

"Jihad is a holy struggle in the name of Allah": India jihad suspect wanted to target U.S.

They all do don't they?

Gorkhali, Nice to hear some other folks also think about fair population exchange!

In 1947 Hindus were 25 and 30 percent population of Pakistan and Bangladesh respectively. Now is it less than one percent in Pakistan and about 5% in Bangladesh. Muslim population in India was about 9% in 1947 and today even after mass Hindu migration from Pakistan and Bangladesh, Muslim population has climed up to almost 20%.

This womb jihad has to be stopped and the traitors has to be expelled from India! Almost 100% of the petty criminals and smugglers in India are Muslims!! To top it all, Indian govt, pay Muslims to go for Hajj using tax paid by Kafirs - We shpould not be forced to pay for a religious apertheid pilgrimage!

Let Pakistan, Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia take care of their brothers in faith!! We want 100% population exchange!! Gandhi's goodness only hurt the Kafirs!

Fortunately the Indian Police does not have PC as long as it is not hampered by muslim vote seeking politicians

Often terrorist elements are arrested and then shot while trying to escape
This is called a fake encounter

Next the police use narco-analysis - truth serum to investigate

Finally terrorist elements get third degree brutality and encouraged to confess

In some cases, police happily arrest family members of terrorists to get co-operation

In Gujurat, Modi has used police tactics to eliminate jihadi terror

The mafia is 90% muslim and the police use these tactics to eliminate the muslim mafia and this as a byproduct eliminates several jihadis

Finally in jail, patriotic prisoners are encouraged to assault terrorists

Shyamsunder, no offence but India has proven itself pathetic in dealing with Islamic terrorism. Just look at India's history. 1000 years of Islamic Rule. Why? How could tens of thousands (Muslims) control Hundreds of millions (Indians)?

The elites in India now as before are willing to sacrifice the masses for their own personal/ familial gain. They simply believe its "karma" for them if they are ruled by someone else. I don't hold out any hope for India. It will go to war with itself sooner or later.

Failing which, similar to what's happened along the border with Bangladesh, ten or more million Pakistanis will flee across the border to India when Pakistan fails. Do you believe Iran will take in Pakistani refugees? No, but India will, believing that their Islam following brothers are in need of help. Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab, Kashmir, and Delhi will be flooded with refugees. It's only a matter of time.

If India were a serious country, it wouldn't have let over 10 million Bangladeshis into India and given them proof of citizenship (ie: ration cards). Bangladeshis virtually control all of the Northeast of India. Why else are Assamese and others fighting for Independence (so they can take care of the Bangladeshis themselves cuz India won't)?

See the rise of Modi
There is no jihadi terrorism under Modi rule

Do you believe Iran will take in Pakistani refugees? No, but
Iran did take in refugees from Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. Of course, that doesn't imply that today, if a collapse of Pakistan (what exactly does that mean?) happens, that they'd necessarily welcome refugees from there. Of course, it is worth noting that Afghanistan has a pretty active border with Iran, whereas Pakistan has the Baluchistan desert between its populated areas (Sind, Waziristan, Panjab) and Iran.
India will, believing that their Islam following brothers are in need of help. Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab, Kashmir, and Delhi will be flooded with refugees. It's only a matter of time.
What makes you think that? Just bcos Left Bengal and Assam have been ignoring the border with Bangladesh? India's Pak border is quite ironclad, mainly due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of Indians - secular or not - have negative views on Pakistan that they don't universally have about Bangladesh. Of the states you mentioned, Punjab, Rajasthan, Haryana and Delhi are pretty unlikely to take in anybody from Pakistan, while Kashmir is the worst place to try crossing, since anybody crossing from there would be seen as a jihadi terrorist. In these cases, if UPA were to try to allow Pakis to come in and settle in say, Rajastan or Punjab, there would be a major electoral backlash, since both Rajputs and Sikhs loath Muslims, particularly Pakis. That's very different from Left Bengal, where the people not only pride themselves on their 'tolerance' (which tends to exist more generously for Muslims than for, say, Marwaris), but where people are blindly sentimental about a united Bengal, and are willing to swallow any crap about Islam in order to enable that to become a reality.

Add to that the fact that in Left Bengal, people are so indoctrinated with Marxism that blocking Islam from coming to India doesn't make sense to them. That's very different from the states you mention, where a Marxist POV is almost non-existant, even among the Nehruvian Congresspeople in those states.

One more thing, Jalandhar. The reason Jihadi activities of late have been originating in Bangladesh, rather than Pakistan, is that it's been tough to get from Pakistan to India, but given the almost open border between Bangladesh & India, it's simply made more sense for Jihadis to base their activities from the latter. Hence you see terrorist activities, such as the attacks in Mumbai, Lucknow, Faizabad, Varanasi, Bangalore, et al originate from Bangladesh, as opposed to Pakistan.

In other words, don't assume about Pakistan what's true about Bangladesh.

From the above posts it is amply clear that apart from other areas of the world e.g.Africa and Mid East , the South Asea too is a sleeping giant of confussion. It has the potential of awakening the whole world from its politically correct approach just to accomodate Muslims all over. The regional Nuke War will begin from South Asea and entrap China , Russia and Iran. Then with a hurricane it will descend on the West , US and rest of the world. Call it a day of judgement or whatever. Mohdians and Christinites are just not ready for this. As usual , by that time it will be too late. Will it be a Test of Human Ingeneous or just another Cycle of Living and Death and Living.Amen

Shouldn't be telling this proudly, but then the reality should be told, however bitter.

Indians are the most pathetic in law enforcement, especially if it involves muslim criminals. So much so that even in straightforward cases involving law and order, the muslim culprits are let go scot free after legal acrobatics.

That this has come to international light itself should be by now sending jitters down the spine of the Hindu politicians, who are ever afraid of "losing" the muslim "vote bank."

This cringing towards muslims takes place in every election, even if it means to give in to the most foolish demands of that community.

This cringing takes place though it is known that muslims are known for ungratefulness (after all, they are supposed to follow the way of their profiteer...er...prophet).

As someone has rightly pointed out in the posts above, the Hindus have sacrificed their masses, or more exactly, their culture for a Faustian peace with muslims.

The day is near, when the Hindus have to fight and win, or fight and die, but there would be no question of compromising...