The problem with taqiyya is...

...you might have trouble keeping your story straight.

Here's an email I received from "james mitchell" on March 12, 2007:

i am a jew. please try to justify those verses from the bible.

There followed the usual litany of verses from the Hebrew Scriptures, trying to portray the Bible as just as violent as the Qur'an, and conveniently ignoring the fact that Jews and Christians are nowhere committing acts of violence that they are justifying them by reference to these verses, while Muslims are committing violence and justifying it by reference to the Qur'an all over the world.

Anyway, "james mitchell" kept writing to me now and again. And October 28, 2007, he wrote this:

yes the "truth" is hard to take. you constantly bash and demonize our religion. you say the reason terrorist do this is 100% because of islam. when in reality it has other factors. there are may people NON-MUSLIMS who know this. Ron paul, sagemen, pape, dennis kusinich and millions of others. every action has a reaction.

Our religion? But wait -- I thought "james" was Jewish, and here he was criticizing me for allegedly "bashing" his religion -- Islam!

And this afternoon I heard from him again:

listen i am a proud jewish man. i know that sounds absurd to you that a jewish man can stand up for muslims but i love everyone. what you say has been refuted. i can EASILY REFUTE everything you say. and zioism is not judaism. it is idiots like you who are ignorant, blind of world affairs and in a state of denial and not open to debate. people like you give jews like me a bad name. and i wrote the subject like that cause i know you would try to belittle a ignorant "subject". so i have got the measure of you. and post this up with the rest of your "hate"-mail

yours truly james mitchel ( a proud jew who is against zionism)

The subject he is referring to was "idiot you." But "james," "james," how can I get all worked up about how you've refuted me when you can't even remember if you're a Jew or a Muslim? Or is it that you keep converting from one to the other? If so, be careful none of your Muslim friends of the more fanatical variety get it into their heads that you're an apostate, or you might lose your own!

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Wow - I'm Christian, but any Jew who is against Zionism - why? Israel is YOUR country. I don't think this can be a Jewish person. In addition:

"it is idiots like you who are ignorant, blind of world affairs and in a state of denial and not open to debate." --so-called Jew named "James Mitchell".

Well, for starters, the furthest thing from an "idiot" is Robert Spencer. Ditto your next ad hominems.

Rather, it is *you* Mohammedan "James Mitchell" who is ignorant, blind to world affairs, and in a state of denial. LOL! Funny how you described *yourself* in your pitiful attempt to malign Spencer! LOL! But, isn't that always the way?!

See through you like onion-skin paper, "Jew" James Mitchell, who "loves everyone." Which has got to be the stupidest statement I've ever heard! "James Mitchell" is not intelligent enough to be Jewish!

I can EASILY REFUTE everything you say.

As has been demonstrated far too many times recently, these trolls couldn't argue their way out of paper bag.

Is someone keeping a list?

Well, there are a whole heck of a lot of Jews against israel. Why? I don't know. hollyweird, and the TV, media industries are full of them. Those are not the only industry full of Jews, but there are others and they are not all for the israelis. now why wouldn't they support their brothers and sisters? I don't know. but there are appeasers of islam everywhere.

Zionism is not Judaism - he is correct with that statement. Here is the definition of the word: an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel. And this definition only tells me that it is a movement for land.

I don't know what this character's problem is, but if he disagrees with the israelis - go tell them. I don't know why he is sending anyone else this type of a note. I think the main issue is that muslims are creating violence all over this globe. The jews are just a group that they blame everything on, besides the evil USA/Satan. When it is actually the koran that is leading them in their imperialistic goals, with murder and mayhem being their technique in many instances. Their technique in our lands - the USA and europe is a little different, but I am not going to go into that right now.

Islam.Feel the peace.

You are definitely exposing these murderous,insecure, double-talking,hide-behind-their-own-women-and-children,
hide-behind-other-religions,
attack-from-inside-elementary-school-or-from-inside-a-mosque,
cowards. CAIR and all these other trolls hanging around this and other forums planting comments but they're incapable of "reaching out" and helping us when we "misunderstand their religion".Instead they viciously attack anyone who asks about the statements made by the terrorists.

Keep the heat on! It's working.

You a idiot, and I'm a Muslim who don't believe in Koran, which is why my name is Jewdog. There are lots a Muslims like me - like Finkelstein and Chomsky and Osama Obama. You don't know nothing, specially grammar, you dumb infidel. Some day you gonna be baked into a kishke and served up like a haram hotdog, with mustard, relish and unions.

Amazing, how these "false-flag" e-mailers assume the recipients' intelligence level equals that or is below theirs.

jewdog,

Great comment! Also love that Osama Obama.

I'm Loving IT!!,

There is never shortage of entertaining when dealing with Muslims who try to defend and already defeated religion - Islam. Thank God there a billion + to amuse us for a long time. :)

A culture of chronic lying has to be the main factor holding back Islamic countries.

Business dealings can't go much beyond immediate exchange without a great degree of trust. A good reputation is invaluable in the west and can open all kind of doors. Those doors remain closed in Islamic societies, much to their cost.

The Arabic culture is one based on shame (as opposed to guilt) and one of the ways we can fight their ideologies is to laugh at them, since they cannot tolerate being laughed at. Consequently, I'd love to see more of these absolutely ridiculous letters posted on jihadwatch so we can all get a chuckle out of them.

Ending jihad, one stupid email at a time...

Hilarious, but sad in a way, if the person is a Mohammedan they feel like they have to pretend to be a Jew in order for their ideas to have any merit.

If I were a Canaanite, circa 1000 B.C., I would be worried about the Hebrews.

Back then, the Israelites were as brutal as the present day Muslim jihadists.

But they aren't any more.

They no longer use Torah passages to justify conquering and slaughtering their "pagan" neighbors.

The millennia have civilized them.

Muslim jihadists, however, DO use the terroristic dogmas in the Koran to justify their intolerant, expansionistic war against all non-Muslims.

Now. Today. This minute. Here.

Unless the emailer has a Time Machine, he can stop worrying about the Bronze Age problems of the Hebrews, and wake up to the Stone Age Mohammedans among us.

Given how Islam has laid claim to anything said by anyone who ever existed and has claimed every prominent person in the Hebrew Bible as a Muslim "prophet" (and yet they destroyed the tomb of one of their "prophets" - Joseph) it's easy to see how the man can get confused. If every Jew should accept Mohammed then he can be a Jewish man who also accepts Islam. Maybe he converted(?) after he sent that first letter?
Then he went back. It can makes you dizzy.

James is NOT a Jewish name!

If there's one group that bugs me, it's the jewmuslims.

;)

My take: Naseem's dead hubby. :)

James is NOT a Jewish name!

Posted by: Watching&Crying

Why do you say that? James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are two of the twelve apostles. They fall behind only Peter in importance. Other than Peter, they were the only apostles who witnessed the transfiguration.

If I were a Canaanite, circa 1000 B.C., I would be worried about the Hebrews.

Back then, the Israelites were as brutal as the present day Muslim jihadists.

But they aren't any more.

They no longer use Torah passages to justify conquering and slaughtering their "pagan" neighbors.

The millennia have civilized them.

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 21, 2008 10:37 PM


As descendant and follower of above-mentioned brutes, let me point out that your assumption is not accurate.

It's not that we "no longer use Torah passages to justify conquering and slaughtering their "pagan" neighbors." Rather the passages refered explicitly to the Cana'anite nations at that time. They cannot be stretched like Silly Putty to fit around circumstances they were not meant for.

The commandments can still be in effect but the circumstances have made them academic a long time ago.

One thing that might save us from their genocidal lunacy is their stupidity....

Why do you say that? James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are two of the twelve apostles. They fall behind only Peter in importance.

Posted by: PMK at February 21, 2008 11:46 PM


From here:
The origin of the name James

English: from a given name that has the same origin as Jacob but that is now felt to be a separate name in its own right. This is largely because in the Authorized Version of the Bible (1611) the form James is used in the New Testament as the name of two of Christ's apostles (James the brother of John and James the brother of Andrew), whereas in the Old Testament the brother of Esau is called Jacob. The form James comes from Latin Jacobus via Late Latin Jac(o)mus, which also gave rise to Jaime, the regular form of the name in Spanish (as opposed to the learned Jacobo).


In other words, had he hung around us, he would simply have remained another "Yankl" out of a million.

If I were a Canaanite, circa 1000 B.C., I would be worried about the Hebrews.

.....Back then, the Israelites were as brutal as the present day Muslim jihadists.

I would say you are dead wrong. The concept seems so alien to us, but in context, let's put it where it belongs. The cannanites were not the sweet people who were slaughtered but people who's pagan practices, who's desecrations were so ordained by G-d to merit their expulsion and destruction if they would not surrender. And only there, and only then. So- the notion that they were to be beheaded and have all their property stolen and their women raped does not appear, nor did the Israelites get heavenly reward for this conquering, and it did not apply anywhere except in that small land, and at that time. And when they didn't do all that was ordained, they too were continually corrupted and forced into death far more than their 'enemies'.
So to take the events out of the biblical context- which by the way- produced the greatest of leaps forward in the concepts of justice, of law, of child welfare, of the rights of women, of the obligations to family, society, and to each other began what was the development of the western civ. Not it's destruction, which is what Islamic jurisprudence and theology stand for.

....But they aren't any more.

They weren't then, either....

.....They no longer use Torah passages to justify conquering and slaughtering their "pagan" neighbors.

They didn't justify conquering and slaughtering their pagan neighbors, and in fact it was only in Israel where the conquering was to be accomplished. And they allowed those pagans to live and as their sense of justice was too complacent they paid the price of being the victims themselves. It is this complexity that is overwhelmingly different than the Islamic version which is a pure tyranny and a 'submission' of all.

The Israelite's never did that.

.....The millennia have civilized them.

No... they have civilized us... and you are misinformed as to who civilized whom

.....Muslim jihadists, however, DO use the terroristic dogmas in the Koran to justify their intolerant, expansionistic war against all non-Muslims.

.....Now. Today. This minute. Here.

Yes

Robert,

why do you waste your valuable time replying to idiots like this ?

"James Mitchell", if you can easily refute everything Robert has ever researched, written and said, why don't you write something to challenge his ideas? I doubt you would write more than a sentence before you gave up.

If you had ever noticed "James", Robert is always open for debate. He is happy to debate anyone, anytime, any place. It's just that people like yourself don't know how to debate, and even when you try, you resort to slander.

Why would anyone want to debate you when you don't even know which faith you belong to?

Oh dear!

James has just identified himself as the "son of an APE".

Zion in the dictionary means The Chosen People of God!This was was affirmed also in the BIBLE referring to the ISRAELITES but i couldn't remember the chapter and verse.I suggest to some Jewish people out there to read the New Testament which is the Gospel of our LORD JESUS.this person james mitchel is definitely not jewish but a muslim because it is very evident the way he communicate.(such a very hateful words there PAL!)

QUOTE:
"If I were a Canaanite, circa 1000 B.C., I would be worried about the Hebrews.

Back then, the Israelites were as brutal as the present day Muslim jihadists.

But they aren't any more.

They no longer use Torah passages to justify conquering and slaughtering their "pagan" neighbors.

The millennia have civilized them."


MY RESPONSE:
Yes, and you see you get when you don't do what God--the real one--tells you!!!

shyguy,
Thanks.

the ancient Israelites were dealing with in principle with the same opposition we see today against Israel. God's commands of dealing with their enemies in such manner meant the continuing existence of the Hebrew nation...for the surrounding kingdoms were dedicated to the annihilation of them. The bible does give glimpses into the practices of these people...

"You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."
Deuteronomy 12:31

Does this sound like Islamic terrorists sacrificing their sons and daughters in the "fire" of suicide bombings in the name of their god?

Sure does to me.

"What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done there is nothing new under the sun"
Ecclesiastes 1:9

Uhm, did anyone else notice that he didn't know how to spell anything, including his own name? (It went from two "L"s to one.)

Must be because he's not James Mitchell. Or even James Mitchel.

Gee, a Muslim who lies about religion and everything else. How extraordinary.

As in Extra Ordinary.

"i know that sounds absurd to you that a jewish man can stand up for muslims but i love everyone.

Except...(?)

(I'm helpless with laughter--give me a moment...)

"idiots like you who are ignorant, blind of world affairs and in a state of denial and not open to debate.

Ouch, but "love" stings!

"people like you give jews
like me a bad name."

Hey--! Jews are people, too! Google it, if you don't believe me!

Say, Robert--what's your secret? I may, in the future, want to give someone else (who shares no tie of any kind with me, other than being human) a bad name.

Seriously, though--Don't you ever get any well-written, well-crafted hate mail?

Jewdog: "...mustard, relish, and unions."

I just love that.

As for "James Mitchell or Mitchel", it's not too late "James"!
You too can convert to Judaism and learn textual analysis and creativity. Gee, if you paid attention to the life-affirming properties of Judaism, you might even work hard and get a prize for something good someday! Excuse glibness.

Or you could calm down. Difficult but eventually possible.

From the time this cult first metasticized from the twisted mind of mahomet, it has been a replacement theology. Its adherents are the "new Jews", doncha know. Like the cowbird, who trick unsuspected birds of other species into nurturing their young, the parasitic cult tricks the Western world into nurturing those who will destroy us.

Whether it's millions or billions of islamo-nazis with Bordeline Personality Disorder like "james mitchell" or just a handful of these retards with razors, we need to resist them each and every time they raise their reprobate heads.

It's the broken-window syndrome.

"Technically", he may be a TRUE Jew and that according to the Koran would make him a Muslim as it states that True Jews and True Christians are People of the Book and also states that True Jews and Ture Jews accept the Teachings of the Prophet and therefore to be a Ture Jew or Christian you have to be a Muslim. Otherwise you're followinf a false Doctrine and blasphemy and of course you'll need to be dealt with. This applies to liberating Muslim Land as well so don't think for a second when they talk about liberating Muslom land they're only talking about areas in the Middle East. They are talking about all of Christendom as well including all of Europe and the Americas.
Feel free to attack my spelling and grammer if that helps make you feel good about yourself. ;-)

Is there such a thing as a "Jewslem?"

A Jewish Muslim.

Huh.

Feel free to attack my spelling and grammer if that helps make you feel good about yourself. ;-)

Posted by: AllahSnackbar at February 22, 2008 12:48 PM

AllahSnackbar, you know that I am not "attacking" you, but in your invitation to "James Mitchell" you misspelled "grammar."

I just thought you'd like to know for future reference! Best Wishes.