Archbishop kidnapped in Iraq found dead

Barbarians.

This is a political killing, perfectly timed, just days before Holy Week begins. His death is a just a warm-up for things to come. The cleansing of Christians from Iraq by Muslims has started in earnest. I predict a weak response from the Vatican, the US Catholic Conference of Bishops and other Western Christian leaders. If there is a Muslim response at all, it will be something along the lines of 'and we condemn all acts of violence against all peoples of faith.' Maybe a reporter should ask Rep. Ellison and his fellow believer, the newly-elected Andre Carson from Indiana, for a comment on the Archbishop's murder at the hands of their co-religionists.

This poor man. The anguish of his family and his parish must be awful. Reminding us of the true meaning of martyrdom is right.

The jihadist kidnappers were especially perverse here, if you recall. They didn't just demand money as ransom, or even that Christians leave the area, or some such.

Their demand was that Chaldean Christians commit acts of jihad violence in order to free Rahho. Of course, there was no moral way they could have complied. Yet, I'm sure this adds an added level of unearned guilt to the pain of those mourning the Archbishop.

Pure evil.

Barbarians.

Posted by: Sounder at March 13, 2008 10:05 AM

Funny, that's a word I often use in a single-word comment, Sounder.

Gee, I wonder why.

darcy, the rest of the words that would follow that word would get me banned from this site.

The CNN article for this archbishop story had as a photo a picture of an "injured" Iraqi youth on a stretcher. Hummm.... doesn't really seem to fit the "Christian killed by Muslims" angle.

Apparently those who killed him were unaware of the official Muslim charm offensive directed at the Vatican, with that letter, and other overtures. Or perhaps they were aware of those attempets, and also of how the Vatican had understood exactly their propagandistic danger and their phoniness (any number of learned analyses of that "letter" and the background and views of its 138 Muslim signoatires, can be found on and off-line), and therefore didn't give a damn about reaction in the Vatican or among Christians anywhere. Why should they? He was a Chaldean archbishop, someone whom they may have "invited" to Islam and who did not accept. His refusal to accept showed, to his kidnappers, that he was uppity, didn't have the right attitude. Of course they experienced not the slightest hesitation or regret in killing him. And ostentatious expressions by Muslims now, "deploring" such a thing, should be seen for the propagandistic phoniness it all is.

Is this what our tax dollars are being used for?

The Christian community in Iraq isn't being protected so how could anyone worry about the ramifications of an "abrupt" withdrawal from Iraq? Its government certainly doesn't deserve the name. Terrorism and barbarism are alive and well in the cradle of "civilization". Islamic imperialism has never died or even been comatose. Why do we apologize for anything we ever did to them?

darcy, the rest of the words that would follow that word would get me banned from this site.

Posted by: Sounder at March 13, 2008 10:29 AM

I understand. "Barbarians" it is!

Maryrose wrote: "If there is a Muslim response at all, it will be something along the lines of 'and we condemn all acts of violence against all peoples of faith.'"

I agree with her prediction although the Muslim response usually adds an element of it may have been okay to murder the archbishop when moslems say "we condemn all acts of violence against all peoples WHO ARE INNOCENT..." leaving ambiguous if the archbishop's killing was hallal or not hallal.

Maybe the Pope should withdraw his retraction and reinstate his citation of the quote of the 14th century Byzantine emperor who correctly stated that the prophet Muhammad brought "only evil and inhuman" things to the world.

Of course, the Byzantine emperor was merely repeating what was well documented by John Damhn Damascene in the 8th century. In his writings about Islamism in his book the Fountain of Wisdom John raises important theological questions about islam and islamism. In the treating of Islamism he vigorously assails the immoral practices of Mohammed and the corrupt teachings inserted in the Koran to legalize the delinquencies of the prophet. We can only thank God that he lived to write his treatise.

Perhaps if they'd had more "inter faith dialogue" of the kind recommended by dhimmi Christian leaders in the West, this wouldn't happened.

Then again, perhaps not.

Another shining example of Christians and Muslims living side by side in eternal peace and harmony, as every other Islamist that trolls on through here, likes to proclaim.

Is the gun-running Archbishop Cappucci (Kapoudji), the one who helped the PLO steal icons from churches in the Holy Land and sell them in order to buy weapons (the most celebrated example of an islamochristian identifying fully with the Muslim enemy) still alive? He was imprsoned by the Israelis, but then freed on pleas from the-then-appeasement-minded personnel at the Vatican, and promises (not always kept) that Kapoudji would never again be involved in "politics"? Why not send Kapoudji (Cappucci) to Iraq on a fact-finding-cum-interfaith-healing mission? With any luck, he'll be taken prisoner by his Muslim brothers, who won't pay too much attention to his perfectly true claims that "but, but, I'm on your side, I'm with you."

It goes without saying that this mans murder is nothing but a result of the racist islamic ideology.
Nothing more, nothing less.
He is indeed a true martyr.
The only martyr's that exist in the world are people that die in the pursuit of peace like Monsignor Rahho.

Hugh wrote:

Is the gun-running Archbishop Cappucci (Kapoudji), the one who helped the PLO steal icons from churches in the Holy Land and sell them in order to buy weapons (the most celebrated example of an islamochristian identifying fully with the Muslim enemy) still alive?
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Well, I wasn't able to find much recent information about Cappucci, but I did run accross this gem on his successor, Melkite Archbishop Elias Chacour. During Bush's visit to Israel this January to try once again to restart the peace process, Chacour wanted to discuss violence.

Perhaps violence against Christians in the Palestinian territories, suicide bombings in Israel, or the shelling of Sderot? No, he wanted to assail Mr. Bush for the "blood on his hands".

He may not be gun running for the PLO, but he's still carrying their water. It looks as though the oddly militant dhimmi tradition of so many Islamo-Christians is sadly alive and well.

Here's a link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1951033/posts

Waiting on the White House to issue a statement on the tragedy of this man's death/murder. Okay, President Bush, Mr. Born-Again-Christian whose favorite philospher is Jesus Christ - we're waiting... So quick to spill American bood for Muslims, but no recognition of the toll that has taken place on the few remaining Christians in Iraq.

Sure it wasn't some Christians who did it ?

The Religion of Peace.

More and more Muslims are coming to the United States. You believe your U.S. government isn't loaded with hundreds of people that understand what this means for our future? Do you?

We are being lied to every day in West. The true source of evil is so entrenched with Islam that the reality of it is almost unbearable and unbelievable.

I have begun discussing the Bigger Picture in recent weeks at the Anvil. Drop by and have a look.

It's not a Conspiracy if it's True.

Hugh,
When are we (yes we) going to speak out more strongly, that we are now - againsts Iran's
consistant war against Israel and indeed the rest of the non muslim world?
Are we all guilty of the cringing dhimmitude that we accuse others of?

They cannot do except what they do..they are beasts of prey..murdering without remorse and in many instances without any reason, even in their own twisted, demented, tortured minds.

They cannot do except what they do..they are beasts of prey..murdering without remorse and in many instances without any reason, even in their own twisted, demented, tortured minds.

This is disgraceful. The oldest Christians on the planet reside in the Middle East.
There is no excuse for this
HOWEVER under Saddam- there were numerous Christians including Tariq Aziz in power.
Say what you like about Saddam- but he kept the Islamic jihadis under control.
So sad to see Christian blood spilt for Bush's oil war- and to the lunatic Neo-con apologists- stop your self-delusional denials- even Greenspan said it was all about oil.

I give thanks to the Holy Trinity that this humble man could offer his life as a true martyr and witness to the truly peaceful way of Jesus Christ.

We live in the Great Age of Martyrdom, since more Christians are being murdered than in any age of the Church, mostly at the hands of the so called religion of peace.

Islam does deliver on peace for the world or for its followers. It delivers frustration and violence since Islam is a lie.

I met his Beatitude, the lat Archbishop, in the city of Mousel back in 2003. He was a soft spoken man of a short stature and a saintly demeanor. When the American commander in Mousel held a meeting with the notables of the city, the senior Islamic cleric would not let him talk and I had to tell him to give “Abuna” a chance to speak.

I had information that the same senior Sunni cleric who hails from Al-Jiboor tribe was heavily involved with violent Islamist groups set up by the Mukhabarat and Fadyeen Sadam… No one cared! The American military commanders completely ignored the plight of the Christians and aggravated their situation by a long series of idiotic polices, actions and inactions. They were under the impression that the Christians were staunch Sadamists, which they were not. But, would any one with a brain blame them for favoring Saddam’s rule over the Islamic butchers that took over?

By the way, a protestant army Chaplin asked the late martyr to conduct a catholic Easter service for the catholic soldiers and he held a somber afternoon service which I attended. He said the liturgy in Aramaic, said to be oldest liturgy in existence.

The Iraqi Christians are denied visas to the U.S. by a**hol*s in the consular service (mostly American Muslims or their local kin and pro-Muslim Dhimmis) and military leaders who are busy bringing thousands upon thousand of non-scrutinized Muslims, probably no different than the insurgents. Christians have no options and no money as they lost their livelihoods to the insurgency and were forced to pay their lifesavings to Islamists as Jizya or to ransom kidnapped relatives. They are prisoners in their own homes which no longer offer much protection. Their priests and men are kidnapped and killed in the most horrific fashion, often after a hefty ransom was paid. Girls are kidnapped to be raped and held for ransom… Others are sold to brothels and pimps, which I am sorry to report, cater to some servicemen.

Those who are lucky enough to escape to Syria, Lebanon or Jordon have no way of supporting themselves, forcing many girls and women to prostitute themselves in the clubs of Amman or Damascus to feed their families.

The U.S. has the blood and agony of two Million non-Muslims Iraqis on its hands. The Catholic Church, famous for bank rolling the process of filling the West with Muslims and supporting them, should do all it can to help those suffering Christians.

As an American from a Middle Eastern Christian lineage and an eye witness to American complicity in the sorry state of Iraqi Christians and the complete indifference to their plight, I will never forgive Bush or my countrymen who aided and abetted, either actively or passively, in the crimes committed against the Christians of Iraq and other non-Muslim minorities.

Hugh:

There is a Chasam that separates the Iraqi Christians from the Palestinian Christians who are arch-Dhimmies. The Iraqi Christians, the Assyrians more so than the Chaldeans, know that Aram-Nahrin is their land and that Muslims are their butchers and oppressors.

Have_mercy

I have no trouble believing absolutely every word you wrote about the plight of Christians in Iraq. It must be one of the saddest episodes of this horrific affair. Thank you and please post as much as you are able about this. I read the post twice.

Raden mas purba

Could you explain for...probably just me as I am not bright. How is the "war" as it is called, connected to our access to oil? Or is it about access...maybe its about not having access...or maybe its just "all about oil" with no connection of dots neccessary. How has the "oil" situation changed..other than paying record amounts for gasoline at the pumps. I personally can't think of a much better reason to make war than to insure our supply of oil...but we only need the stuff here in order to survive as a nation with a decent standard of living. Maybe it is different where you sleep but would you mind terribly making your case so that even I can understand...be patient now.

It was not clear whether the kidnappers had killed the archbishop or whether he had died from health problems. A medical examiner in the morgue, who spoke on condition of anonymity for security reasons, said the body had been buried and showed no signs of being shot.

Maybe it was suicide, Sherlock.

I wonder if the jihadis gave him the choice to convert to save his life, and if so, I wonder what his thoughts were in those terrible moments. No person should ever be put in his position. This story will not make a ripple in the mainstream media, nor even in the halls of the Vatican, where the calls for "reconciliation" will continue.

Simply unbelievable.

Prayers for the heathen bastards that do such things. I hope the repent and convert. I do not wish the fate they have demanded for themselves on anyone.

HOV:"Waiting on the White House to issue a statement on the tragedy of this man's death/murder. Okay, President Bush, Mr. Born-Again-Christian whose favorite philospher is Jesus Christ - we're waiting... So quick to spill American bood for Muslims, but no recognition of the toll that has taken place on the few remaining Christians in Iraq.'

Oh very well said. The US strategy in Iraq -like you I was simply amazed that the US actually has a strategy there- is to

a. Arm the Sunni groups. And pay 'em off too. Jizya time

b. Arm the Shiite groups and let them run the whole show from Baghdad. Also protect the elite in the Green Zone. Jizya time again.

c. Refuse point blank to arm the Infidel groups in Iraq. No guns for you, naughty un Islamic Christians, Jews, blah di blah di blah. It's dog meat time you chappies. Now go and die, and try not to whinge too much. Hop along, now.

Great policy, US. Great policy.

Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho and his companions that were killed are true martyrs for their faith in the same manner as those that died during the Roman purges.

Contrast these martyrs with the suicide/homicide bomber who kills innocent civilians along with himself for the promise of carnal delights in Allah's paradise. The comparison itself is vile. Can one compare Yaweh with Satan?

Besides being brutal, cruel and hateful Islam is a religion with a crude theology lacking anything as sublime as the Christian beliefs of salvation, sacrifice and fellowship with God. Islam is a sad, base religion that depends upon violence and threats of violence for its very existence and rewards its most prolific killers with a paradise of which I'd become bored very quickly; eternity would be agonizing to contemplate.

Raden Mas Purba wrote:
This is disgraceful. The oldest Christians on the planet reside in the Middle East.
There is no excuse for this
HOWEVER under Saddam- there were numerous Christians including Tariq Aziz in power.
Say what you like about Saddam- but he kept the Islamic jihadis under control.
So sad to see Christian blood spilt for Bush's oil war- and to the lunatic Neo-con apologists- stop your self-delusional denials- even Greenspan said it was all about oil.
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We can control the oil fields any time we want. If it were just about oil, this war would last 1 day. Why would we bother building schools, bridges, and infrastructure? We promised the Iraqi people that we would stay to help them. And we've kept our word.

We're trying to implement a democracy for the Iraqi people to get out from under the oppressive cult of islam. If democracy takes hold, islam will naturally wane. The insurgents definitely don't want that to happen. But the Iraqi people better soon step up. Or they'll miss this golden opportunity to rid themselves of the cancer of islam.

It's heart wretching to read the words posted by have_mercy. What a terrible mess the Bush administration and its military leaders have made.

The only comment I have to take issue with is this one:

The Catholic Church, famous for bank rolling the process of filling the West with Muslims and supporting them

I am unaware of any such bank rolling. If this is accurate please provide details and specifics as I for one will make vocal opposition to this within the church.

We have heard nothing about this barbarous act from Dr. Rice at the State Department. You know, the same person who is full of tenderness for Muslims as people who are so akin to her own people who were persecuted in the Jim Crow South. The same person who, if you were to take the logical conclusions from her thought, would be compelled to consider the Israelis as oppressive bigots. I'm sure no one in our government gives a rat's **s about this archbishop.

And as for the Church... I am so ashamed of my Church that it still feels it necessary to have these annual conferences with Muslim clerics at the Vatican. Talking with snakes who would never grant us the freedoms of first class citizens in Muslim lands. The same people who subject us to the Dhimma and the jizya. You cannot have a dialog with people who look down on you, and who will put poison in the honey they pour down your throat.

"It was not clear whether the kidnappers had killed the archbishop or whether he had died from health problems. A medical examiner in the morgue, who spoke on condition of anonymity for security reasons, said the body had been buried and showed no signs of being shot."

Didn't I read in and earlier article that the Archbishop had heart problems, and relied on medication? Maybe the kidnappers just allowed the poor soul to drop dead.

Beasts!

have_mercy.

Outstanding post. heart wrenching.

So the Muslims are being armed and protected by the US and the minority Infidel groups are being slaughtered?

It's the new World order, Have Mercy, my friend.

Over in Afghanistan, NATO simply won't bomb a mosque even when their forces are being fired from the place. In Kosovo, however, their forces bombed countless churches. For no apparent reason too.

After Serb forces left and were replaced by NATO/KLA, 80 churches and monasteries were destroyed. The church in Musutiste, for instance, and 15 of them date from medieval period. In Metohija -that's western Kosovo bordering Albania- 30% of all the category A religious sites were destroyed afterNATO took over the running of the place. None of this is even disputed.

It's a brave new World indeed

Come back Saddam, all is forgiven. I can't remember a single article/comment from any pro Iraq War advocate, that talked of the minority Christian/Infidel groups and the precariousness of their position if Saddam were to be toppled. Not one.

The Cool Ghoul:"If democracy takes hold, islam will naturally wane."

Rolls eyes, shakes head.

Once more, have_mercy, what a fine post. Take care.

The reason there are so few non-muslims in muslim lands is because islam demand they be killed.

Islam is not a religion.

have _ mercy:

Read your post about the martyred Archbishop Rahho and listening to Mozart's Requiem at the same time. Tears just tears...

Adobe:

The Catholic Church, exemplified by both its affiliated charities and many of its clerics, is one of the biggest groups, if not the biggest, that is sponsoring so called “Muslim refuges” entry into Western countries, aiding and sheltering them once they are there. My own estimation is based on published reports that I read over the years, the say so a relative in the employment of a Catholic charity in Germany for the last fifteen years or so, talking to a former aid worker, my own encounter with nearly a dozen Kurds who were brought first to Europe and then to the U.S who told me that whole refuge camps in Turkey were emptied. Once in the U.S., the Kurds were supported for a year or more while they went to school, given apartments, stipends, and clothing and taught how to drive. Catholic churches in Europe were turned into shelters for Muslim squatters who desecrated them. Apparently, “charity starts at home” rings hollow for the Catholic aid commissars.

Read: Allah Takes Over Catholic Church
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1053

Catholic groups that aid the Islamic invasion include:
- Diocesan Resettlement and Unaccompanied Refugee Minors Offices
Read a statement by the U.S. conference of catholic Bishops who are bending over to cater to Muslim “refugees”
http://www.usccb.org/mrs/interfaith.shtml

- Catholic Charities: IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE SERVICES
http://www.cirsorl.org/
“They do not just help Hispanics, but many Muslims as well.

- Australian Catholic Migrant and Refugee Office
www.acmro.catholic.org.au/

Jesuit Refugee Service Europe
http://www.jrseurope.org/index.htm
“Somali face is their poster image of the kind of “refugee” they are supporting.

International Catholic Migration Commission (ICMC)-Europe
“Helping to fill Europe with Muslim on a grand scale”
“Welcome to Europe: A Guide to Resettlement”
http://www.icmc.net/e/press_releases/2007_7.htm

Many others in Europe.
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Catholic leader criticizes Europe's refugee policy.
Publication: National Catholic Reporter
Publication Date: 05-JUL-02
Delivery: Immediate Online Access
Author: Donovan, Gill

Article Excerpt
ENGLAND: The European Union's policy toward refugees has been sharply criticized by Roman Catholic Bishop Patrick O'Donoghue of Lancaster, chairman of the English and Welsh bishops' office for refugee policy.

In a statement to mark National Refugee Week June 17-23, the bishop said: "Increasingly restrictive measures are being enacted...
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European Catholic bishops call for more Iraqi refugee visas
Comment: “Not for the Christians of Iraq, mind you”
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/6373
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It will take days of searches and many pages to post all the links that prove the scale of official Roman Catholic complicity in the Islamic invasion, the current Pope notwithstanding. The Catholic Church in the West is nearly finished as a traditional bulwark for Western culture … Today it is dominated on many levels by ultraliberal leftist leaning radicals that debase everything that it once stood for.

Adobe:

The Catholic Church, exemplified by both its affiliated charities and many of its clerics, is one of the biggest groups, if not the biggest, that is sponsoring so called “Muslim refuges” entry into Western countries, aiding and sheltering them once they are there. My own estimation is based on published reports that I read over the years, the say so a relative in the employment of a Catholic charity in Germany for the last fifteen years or so, talking to a former aid worker, my own encounter with nearly a dozen Kurds who were brought first to Europe and then to the U.S who told me that whole refuge camps in Turkey were emptied. Once in the U.S., the Kurds were supported for a year or more while they went to school, given apartments, stipends, and clothing and taught how to drive. Catholic churches in Europe were turned into shelters for Muslim squatters who desecrated them. Apparently, “charity starts at home” rings hollow for the Catholic aid commissars.

Read: Allah Takes Over Catholic Church
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1053

Catholic groups that aid the Islamic invasion include:
- Diocesan Resettlement and Unaccompanied Refugee Minors Offices
Read a statement by the U.S. conference of catholic Bishops who are bending over to cater to Muslim “refugees”
http://www.usccb.org/mrs/interfaith.shtml

- Catholic Charities: IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE SERVICES
http://www.cirsorl.org/
“They do not just help Hispanics, but many Muslims as well.

- Australian Catholic Migrant and Refugee Office
www.acmro.catholic.org.au/

Jesuit Refugee Service Europe
http://www.jrseurope.org/index.htm
“Somali face is their poster image of the kind of “refugee” they are supporting.

International Catholic Migration Commission (ICMC)-Europe
“Helping to fill Europe with Muslim on a grand scale”
“Welcome to Europe: A Guide to Resettlement”
http://www.icmc.net/e/press_releases/2007_7.htm

Many others in Europe.
-------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------
Other articles to get in the Library

Catholic leader criticizes Europe's refugee policy.
Publication: National Catholic Reporter
Publication Date: 05-JUL-02
Delivery: Immediate Online Access
Author: Donovan, Gill

Article Excerpt
ENGLAND: The European Union's policy toward refugees has been sharply criticized by Roman Catholic Bishop Patrick O'Donoghue of Lancaster, chairman of the English and Welsh bishops' office for refugee policy.

In a statement to mark National Refugee Week June 17-23, the bishop said: "Increasingly restrictive measures are being enacted...
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European Catholic bishops call for more Iraqi refugee visas
Comment: “Not for the Christians of Iraq, mind you”
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/6373
++++++++++++++

It will take days of searches and many pages to post all the links that prove the scale of official Roman Catholic complicity in the Islamic invasion, the current Pope notwithstanding. The Catholic Church in the West is nearly finished as a traditional bulwark for Western culture … Today it is dominated on many levels by ultraliberal leftist leaning radicals that debase everything that it once stood for.

Sorry for double posting.