Heartland Jihad. They are accused of having "attended a Muslim convention in Cleveland during the summer of 2004 where they talked about training in explosives, guns and sniper tactics."
"Terror trial begins in Ohio," by John Seewer for Associated Press (thanks to Jeffrey Imm):
TOLEDO, Ohio - Jury selection began Tuesday in the trial of three men charged with plotting to recruit and train terrorists to attack U.S. and allied troops overseas.Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Wassim I. Mazloum are accused of conspiring to kill or maim people outside the United States, including military personnel in Iraq. They have all pleaded not guilty.
Federal prosecutors say the men, who live in Ohio, attended a Muslim convention in Cleveland during the summer of 2004 where they talked about training in explosives, guns and sniper tactics.
The men were there with a former U.S. military man who worked undercover and helped foil the plot, said Gregg Sofer, a justice department attorney.
At the convention, the men discussed a five-year plan to carry out their mission, Sofer said during a bond hearing last April.
Two Chicago-area cousins who also are accused of taking part are scheduled to face trial next year. All are U.S. citizens except Mazloum, who came to the U.S. legally from Lebanon.
The five allegedly sought recruits and sites for training in firearms, hand-to-hand combat and the use of explosives, according to a federal indictment.
They also are accused of agreeing to raise funds for training and of downloading Internet information on improvised explosive devices.
Amazing that this can all take place within America. Or any other Western country for that matter.
On points of infiltration into the West, these guys are winning by far. They can live in the West and plot to destroy it from within. You couldn't have a better plan if you were trying to get into the enemy's stronghold. These guys do it without a fight.
Where's Ibrahim Hooper to condemn these sorts of things when you need him? He's too busy blathering away about so-called "Islamophobic" incidents of course.
Does anyone have the scoop on the trail in New Haven, Ct. I guess this dude (seriously this is part of his name) abu-jihaad was SERVING IN OUR NAVY and giving up his ships coordinates (along with others) to jihadi websites. Nice, I can't even phathom how this happened. I mean his name says it all! What the....? unfriggin'real!
If the perps are in fact guilty, a guilty verdict is imperative.
Let us not forget the trial of the infamous Nosair, who was seen by several eyewitnesses standing over the murdered body of Meir Kahane's with a smoking gun, who was chased from the scene on foot and captured, and yet who still received a not-guilty verdict from a pathetically gullible jury who bought the defense's incredible tale that he (Nosair) was just a fall-guy in a complex conspiracy.
Actually, most of the jury believed he was guilty of murder, but they compromised with a couple of their recalcitrant members in order to secure a conviction on gun-possession charges.
After the verdict, the message was heard loud and clear; our criminal-justice system was broken. It was open-season on America and the first WTC bombing followed shortly thereafter.
The unanimous-jury system is teetering on dysfunctionality and the terrorists and their enablers know this. Pretty soon, Muslims will be in America in sufficient numbers that it will be impossible to exclude them from the jury pool in terrorist trials.
When will we begin to institute the common-sense reform that will require only a super-majority (8 or 9) to convict or acquit in criminal trials? At that point, a single jurist (or two) with an agenda will no longer be able to thwart the dispensation of justice in America.
Thanks for posting the story on the New Haven guy. Sorry I jumped the gun posting in this story.