Not that anyone has actually seen the film. "Anti-Koran Dutch film 'propagates hate' - Pakistan," from Reuters (thanks to all who sent this in):
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - An anti-Koran film made by a Dutch politician is tantamount to propagating the politics of hate and xenophobia and cannot be justified, Pakistan said on Wednesday.Anti-immigration member of the Dutch parliament Geert Wilders has given few details about the content of his film "Fitna", in which he intends to present his views about the Koran, the Muslim holy book which in the past he has called to be banned.
Wilders has said he had completed the film and was in negotiations with television stations for its broadcast, slated for March or April.
"Wilders' anti-Koran film reflects his biased, bigoted thinking," Pakistani foreign office spokesman Mohammad Sadiq told a weekly briefing. "It has nothing to do with the right of freedom of expression."
The Netherlands fears the film could spark protests like those triggered by Danish cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad, in which at least 50 people were killed, including five in Pakistan, in early 2006.
The film has drawn protests in Muslim countries including Pakistan, whose upper house of parliament adopted a resolution last week condemning efforts to denigrate Islam, referring to Wilders' film and the Danish cartoons, one of which was recently reprinted.
"Bigoted and blasphemous acts such as the Danish cartoons and Wilders' film (are) tantamount to propagating politics of hate and promoting xenophobia in Europe," Sadiq said.
"This cannot be justified on any pretext."
Turkey has also voiced concern about the film and Iran called it a "provocative and Satanic" act.
A Dutch newspaper said this week the government was looking into whether it could stop Wilders from releasing the film.
Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende has said the Netherlands risked economic sanctions and attacks against its troops in Afghanistan because of the film, although he stopped short of saying it should not be broadcast.
Sadiq said the Pakistani government had called in the Dutch ambassador and lodged a protest with him.
Pakistan had also raised the issue in Brussels, the Vatican and The Hague, and the matter would be discussed at an Organisation of the Islamic Conference summit in Senegal this month, he said.
Wilders, who has received death threats, has defended his film, saying he was not stirring trouble but was exercising his right to free speech.
The Pakistani spokesman rejected that.
"Distinction must be drawn between freedom of expression and license to insult," Sadiq said.
A hard distinction to make, if freedom of expression is to have any substance at all.
What do Pakistanis know about freedom of expression? Are they really in any position to lecture the Dutch about it?
Paraphrasing Henry Ford: You can say anything you want, as long as it praises Islam.
"Distinction must be drawn between freedom of expression and license to insult,"
No Distinction can be made. If you are a strong moral person with self confidance you can stand any insult. Islam is contemptble to many people. Muslims can't defend themselves with arguments, thay quikly turn to threats of physical violance. Again this is contemptible.
I don't see them screaming about the hate propogated by the Palestians who make cartoons and videos for children to view calling Jews and Israeli's every revolting name under the sun, excuse me where is the outrage for that !
"Bigoted and blasphemous acts such as the Danish cartoons and Wilders' film (are) tantamount to propagating politics of hate and promoting xenophobia in Europe," Sadiq said.
Islam itself constitutes “blasphemy” to my way of thinking and archetypical of this latest mass Muslim rage-tantrum over Widers film ‘Fitna’ which will undoubtedly cast a bright light upon the darkness of Islam and its Mein Kampf: the Koran.
When does the film actually come out? And is it a world-wide release?
Because the Koran propagates hate and Wilders film is about the Koran.....well....Duh.
So are Pakastanis now islamophobes too?
It seems the Pakistanis aren't the only ones who are p.o. about a movie whom no one has seen.
Report on Arrakis
Around 200 Afghan lawmakers protested outside the Afghan parliament against Geert Wilder's soon to be released movie, Fitna. They shouted "death to the enemies of islam" and demanded that the UN and the OIC react to these "kinds of activities".
I wonder if there really is a movie ....just to show the world what evil these people are....and how they react to even a suggestion......but wait the world is still sleeping.......
I am, anxiously, awaiting this film; firstly, to see if it ever gets a smidgen of distribution: I believe not. Yes, of course, it will be on the internet and shuffled to and fro in the underground; nevertheless, in a supposed democracy, which prides itself on freedom of speech; this film should have unrestricted distribution.
Secondly, whether this is a subjective criticism or not, it means naught to the Muslim world. Christians and Jews apparently are fair-game, whether they are criticised by not only Islam but the self-anointed leftists within academia, the mass-media and so-forth. Nonetheless, one does not witness a maniacal horde of Christians or Jews hell-bent on the destruction and death of their detractors; unlike their Islam counterparts.
Thirdly, I will wager that the Western leftist-amoebas will kowtow to the Muslim demands that it be banned, deeming it intolerant. This as we have already witnessed will not soothe or pacify this anti-democracy lot… Islam; nope they shall wilfully, run rampantly banshee-like as they always have done.
The Quran, the fatwas, the imams, etc - all propagate hate and we deal it.
quote: "Turkey has also voiced concern about the film and Iran called it a "provocative and Satanic" act."
Turkey should look at its own laws and citiznes which deny the millions of innocents they killed in the Armenian massacre and the pogroms and the continued allowance of christians and other nonmuslims in its borders first before it starts throwing terms "satanic act" around. good grief.
take the forest out of your own eye first Turkey and then tell us about the speck you see in ours
As my friend eloquently said a few years back...
"Muslims are such crybabies."
correction: turkey and Iran ....
Iran also has a lonng list of crimes against humanity but its mostly because of the thug in cheif and oh that little thing they call islam....
"Turkey has also voiced concern about the film and Iran called it a "provocative and Satanic" act."
-- from the article above
I won't bother with Iran, the place where girls are stoned to death (the whole village joining in), where leaders of the Baha'i and Jewish communities were promptly executed as soon as Khomeini (and therefore hanging judge Khalkhali) came to power), the Islamic Republic of Iran.
No, I'll note only the "concern" of Turkey, a country where "Mein Kampf" was recently published and became a best-seller, without any Turkish attempt to suppress it -- though we have evidence that "Mein Kampf" historically was a tad more dangerous than a 15-minute movie, consisting largely, I gather, of excerpts from the Qur'an and then visuals of Muslim behavior today that one can reasonably conclude were prompted by those Qur'anic passages).
And that same Turkey, that now expresses its "concern," had as its box-office smasheroo a movie, "Valley of the Wolves," in which American soldiers were portrayed as non-stop Nazi killers, and a Jewish doctor was portrayed as harvesting organs from Iraqis (presumably some of them dispatched for that express purpoose), organs later to be sold in New York and Tel Aviv.
Here is how Wikipedia describes this propaganda film that might have been produced by the same Hitlerite regime that produced "Jude Suss": were immediately subject
"The film has been controversial due to its portrayal of US military personnel as well as a Jewish character engaging in the harvesting of organs from civilian prisoners.
In one sequence, the American commander Sam William Marshall (the film's villain) raids an Arab wedding and massacres a number of civilians, which might allude to the wedding party massacre in Mukaradeeb on May 19, 2004.
US soldiers torture detainees in Abu Ghraib prison, including a female soldier makes a human pyramid, referring to the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. It is the first depiction of actions by American soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison on film.
While captives are transported on a long journey in a container on a truck, one guard says to the other: "They might suffocate in the container because there is no fresh air supply". The truck stops, the (American) guard gets off the truck and fires hundreds of bullet-holes into the container with an automatic weapon "in order to make holes for the air to get in", but many detainees are injured or die. A similar event is reported to have occurred in Afghanistan after the battle for Mazari Sharif on November 9, 2001, with Taliban soldiers in the container and soldiers of the Afghan Northern Alliance as their guardians, as described in the documentary film Massacre at Mazar by Irish filmmaker Jamie Doran. This event is also reenacted in the film The Road to Guantanamo.
The film features a Jewish-American Army doctor (Gary Busey) who harvests fresh organs from injured Iraqi prisoners to sell to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv for transplantation."
Did anyone in Turkey make a move to ban this evil fiction?
No, I thought not.
How does the Turkish government, then, dare to express its "concern" over a 15-minute movie that will have not the slightest fiction in it, but only the fact of passages from the Qur'an (and possibly the Hadith), passages that every Muslim knows, and yet that apparently, all of organized Islam, and all Muslim governments, wish to make sure are not known to, not brought to the attention of, the world's Infidels.
Sorry. You should have thought about that long ago, when you began your campaign of moving into the Western world, and of having so many Muslims whipped up into behaving, against Infidels, according to the very texts that you apparently think can indefinitely be kept from being exposed to the gaze of Infidels.
No. Remember that business about fooling some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not being able to fool all of the people all of the time?
Yes, it has a familiar ring. Well, just substitute the word "Infidels" for the word "people" and you'll get the current drift.
It's the old story. The Koran can say "Kill the infidels" and that's o.k. But when someone like Wilders says "The Koran says 'Kill the infidels'", he's a bigot and racist. It's our PC-left's Newspeak; everything is turned upside-down.
Gary Busey is pathetic.
Let me get this straight... The film is not yet released and none of these people have seen it yet... But it is automatically assumed to be nothing more than "hate propeganda"? If you haven't seen it, how do you know that it has absolutely no basis in reality?
What are you, some kind of Fitnaphobe?
"Distinction must be drawn between freedom of expression and license to insult," Sadiq said.
Certain elements of your religion, Sadiq, are an insult to non-muslims. Somehow I don't believe this statement is intended to apply universally.
I think we have all heard enough of the old "Kill The Infidel" out of them, to tell them to go stuff it where...
I wonder what the Shills in the likes of PBS will do to discredit this 15 Minutes of fame.
That immediately places Billy Zane and Gary Busey on my sh-tlist. Busey can be excused (playing a Jewish doctor, yet!) because of his brain operation(s) and open passage from nostril to brain from previously burnt-out tissue due to ph problems (too acidic a salt went up there).
Billy Zane, I never liked, not since he played such a heel in "Titanic."
I hope the film--when and if it ever comes out--the Geert Wilders film not the Turkish turkey, is shown at Guantanamo to the koran-reading inmates--as sort of a reeducation project: koran leads to killing.
Wilders is brilliant. Occasionally people have asked, where's todays Churchill? I think we've found him.
Speaking of offensive things-
The Koran: a license to hate.
Islam: a permit to kill.
Why are this book and its resulting misogynistic creed allowed to spread their vicious intolerance unchallenged?
Gary Busey is pathetic.
He's also a bathetically born-again Christian who flaunts his humility on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.
There's a great posting on the Wall Street Journal about this.
It's called "Islam and Its Critics".
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120467956360312007.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - An anti-Koran film made by a Dutch politician is tantamount to propagating the politics of hate and xenophobia and cannot be justified, Pakistan said on Wednesday.
My version...
DETROIT (Rioters) - Strictly following the Qur'an of Islam made by Mohammed is tantamount to propagating the politics of hate and xenophobia and cannot be justified, HawkWatcher said on Wednesday.
Nanny nanny boo boo.
tantamount to propagating the politics of hate and xenophobia and cannot be justified, Pakistan
considering freedom of speech in Pakistan is unknown. They cannot really say much about freedom of speech with a statement like the Pakistanis, may I can only assume they're talking about their own religion. There is no other religion in the world that tells his followers that they must collect protection money from non-cult members to protect those members from the cult of Islam does not allow any criticism and it's very violent. When outsider, whom is not Muslim, makes a critical comment about is islam