In the featured article at FrontPage this morning I discuss the jihad camps in Britain:
“Fifty-two. That’s not even breakfast for me.”Those were the words of an Islamic preacher in Britain, Mohammed Hamid, who liked to call himself “Osama bin London.” Hamid was referring to the fifty-two people murdered by Islamic jihadists in the London bombings of July 2005, and was boasting that his own plots would lead to, presumably, lunch and dinner -- far more deaths. One police official, discussing surveillance tapes made of conversations inside Hamid’s home, said, “There was repeated talk of finding and killing nonbelievers.”
Hamid was a member of the “London 7,” a jihadist gang that established training camps in the British countryside, where they prepared for large-scale attacks on British non-Muslims -- and who even planned to open training camps in the U.S. as well. Two of the gang members pleaded guilty to terror charges Tuesday, but this case is far from over. Its implications ought to be studied closely by government and law enforcement officials.
The establishment of jihad training camps in the British hinterlands raises disquieting questions with no easy answers: How many more might be there? How can they be detected? Questions like these should lead to considerations of the wisdom of the current no-holds-barred immigration policy, and of the loyalty of the larger Muslim community in Britain – questions that have never been satisfactorily answered. Exposure to the jihadist, Islamic supremacist ideology, says the self-styled British “former Islamist” Ed Husain, “that radicalism, that extremism, that ‘them-and-us’ mind set -- starts here on our streets in Britain.”Why does it start on the streets in Britain, and what can be done about that? According to the Associated Press, “Hamid, originally from Tanzania, hand-picked recruits from mainstream mosques, inviting them for radical meetings at his home and then selecting a smaller number to attend the camps, police said.” Yet whenever law enforcement officials have broached the topic of monitoring activity inside mosques, they meet a barrage of indignation and criticism. The core problem is that, for all their ballyhooed condemnations of terrorism, peaceful Muslims in Britain and America have not moved in any great numbers to expose those who hold jihadist sentiments, much less to separate themselves from them and expel them from their mosques. There is no wall of separation in the British or American Muslim community between Muslims who accept Western pluralism and just want to live ordinary lives and those who hold to the same ideology of jihad and the destruction or subjugation of infidels to which “Osama bin London” had dedicated his life. There is no easy or reliable way to distinguish a Muslim who may be working to top the death total of the July 2005 London bombings from one who abhors the very idea.
In such an environment, new methods are needed. Yet in both Britain and America legislators and judges continue to work against legitimate and legal anti-terror initiatives. In Britain in mid-February, a judge overturned the convictions of five Muslims who downloaded pro-jihad material from the Internet. And in America, after House Democrats allowed a surveillance act to expire last week, if telecom companies monitor jihadists’ phone calls as they plot terrorist attacks, jihadists can sue the telecoms and tie them up in the courts. National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell and Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey wrote last week to the House Intelligence Committee: “We have lost intelligence information this past week as a direct result of the uncertainty created by Congress’ failure to act. Because of this uncertainty, some partners have reduced cooperation.”
Of course, not every Muslim in Britain or the United States will fall prey to the likes of “Osama bin London.” But the London 7 case demonstrates anew that the more law enforcement officials depend on the politically correct assumption that there is little or no sympathy for the global jihad among Muslims in the West, the more they put us all at risk. This week ABC sent two actors – one dressed as a veiled Muslim woman and the other playing the part of an “Islamophobic” store clerk who treated her rudely – into a store in Waco, Texas, in order to gather evidence of American xenophobia and racism. A far more dramatic documentary might be made of the London 7 case – of young Muslims in Britain actually working toward the violent deaths of their non-Muslim fellow citizens. And it didn’t seem to enter into the minds of anyone at ABC that the fact that all too many Muslims go in for such training – even in the West – may be responsible for some of the frustration and resentment that boiled over from a few obnoxious people in their “Islamophobia” documentary.
Muslims in Britain and the U.S. have skillfully portrayed themselves for years now as the victims of unjustified suspicion. The London 7 case is just the latest one to indicate that a good deal more forthrightness, a good deal more honesty, a good deal more transparency, ought to be forthcoming from them, if they really wish to deflect such suspicion. Otherwise, some later “Osama bin London” finally will top the July 2005 death count – and his grisly achievement will stand forever as an assault on innocent people that could have and should have been prevented, and one more step on the way to the disintegration of the West before the jihadist onslaught. This can be prevented. But it is getting late.
Oooh ... hang on a minute pretending slaying infidels guys ...
Oooh ... I got a stitch, innit!
Dang ... stupid infidel paintball gun jammed again.
"a good deal more honesty, a good deal more transparency, ought to be forthcoming from them, if they really wish to deflect such suspicion".
Honesty ? Transparency ?
These are alien concepts to them.
Try, lies, deceit, hypocrisy & just about anything else that is the opposite of Honesty & Transparency.
It's late indeed...maybe too late.
And let's not forget that this guy was a star in a revolting BBC whitewash documentary called "Don't panic, i'm islamic".
Mr. Spencer do you have to keep printing that ugly smug mug? Everytime I see it I want to hurl. Must close eyes when scrolling down, I guess!
Why is he wearing a bib? To catch the beard drool?
He kinda looks like he has on one of those Pilgrim outfits.
"There is no wall of separation in the British or American Muslim community between Muslims who accept Western pluralism and just want to live ordinary lives and those who hold to the same ideology of jihad and the destruction or subjugation of infidels to which “Osama bin London” had dedicated his life."
And therein lies our biggest problem. Keep bringin' em in boys! Keep sawing off your own hand.
Speaking of breakfast, I just want to take this guy's face and use it to scrub my frying pan.
The UK under the charge of the collectivist jackals, Comrade Brown, et al, (not to omit Blair) have kowtowed to Islamists with a groupie-like fervour. This once proud nation has become no more than a cess-pit, a comfort-zone, for the perfidious likes of Hamid. Hell, even Charles is an Islam-groupie, following in the footsteps of his great-uncle Edward, who was a Nazi worshipper. Some may prefer alleged… but let’s call them as we see them.
Sorry, there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim: there is the team, The Jihadist, cheered on by their feverish fans, the so-called moderates, who, in fact, are fanatical devotees to the team’s murderous and subversive intent; to win at all cost.
Darcy lol! What - he's such a cute little leprechaun - or he's Amish, not sure which. Can't imagine why he makes you want to hurl! :-)
Champ
Only Mohammedans have that bizzare practice of shaving the mustache but leaving the beard. Normally, bearded people retain their mustaches as well.
Hey IP - so do Amish men - check this out:
http://www.dauphines.co.uk/images/content/aimish%20beard.jpg
Most attractive - not!
The Democrats allowed the surveillance act to expire. Are there any wealthy, young Americans who watch too much television, have nothing better to do with so much free time on their hands, and want to be like Batman and Robin?
Just a thought.
Can you say Incest Face? Is this guy a product of the incestuous first-cousin marriage that dominates Jihad World? One thing is for sure, the hardcore jihadists are a homely lot. They seem to either be thugish looking, like al Sadr, or effeminate like Bouyeri and bin Ladin. The early Nazi movement was characterized by this butch/fem dicotomy also. And the nazis and jihadists have the utter gull to call everyone else "degenerate."
BTW, I'm not picking on anyone but the jihadists and nazis here. There are plenty of well-adjusted thugish or fem-looking, homely guys out there. Some girls may even say I'm one of them!!
We are being played in the UK by the muslim population. In the name of fair play and tolerance they impose their twisted religion on us day by day. A system that will give no tolerance and no peace to anyone who is not muslim.
What is scary is that they are pushing the indigenous people toward the right. But they won't stop, because the koran says that anything a muslim does is ok by god.
Far from being taken over by islam, and having the black flag of islam flying over number 10, we are more likely to see the so far non-existant backlash against the muslims, which they whine about all the time but know full well has never happened.
We are threatened in our country every day by certain muslims, a lot of them claiming to be moderate.
Islam uses disingenuous arguments to further its goal. Along the lines of "Well if you do this what can we do to stop muslims using violence against you?". This argument is used in everything from mohammad cartoons to prayer rooms and preferential treatment in schools and universities.
We all see this, it's obvious. The arguments are child like, and transparent. We all see this but our politicians are now so afraid of being accused of racism that they allow wanted terrorists to live here. Not only live here but claim benefits and train future islamomurderers in our own country.
We allow them to come into this country in their droves by using marriage as an instant passport gainer.
We cannot live side by side with these people, they are 1400 years behind us. They are totally convinced of the supremacy of islam even though the evidence is that mohammed was nothing more than a power monger who hit the jackpot when he married his sugar mummy.
It is time we saw islam for what it is, but I suspect it will take a very long time, in the same way it took a long time to accept Nazism for what it was even though the evidence was there for all to see.
The difference of course is that I do not wish to see muslims murdered for their beliefs, sadly the same cannot be said of them or their self proclaimed prophet.