This earnest peroration was sent this morning to me and to Khaleel Mohammed of San Diego State University:
TO SPENCER WHOSE HEART IS FILLED WITH HATE AND WHOSE POCKET IS FILLED WITH MONEY OF POLITICIANS.
I just checked my pockets -- alas, nary a penny from any politicians. Perhaps my payments have been lost in the mail. Memo to politicians: contact me at director@jihadwatch.org for the proper address to which to send your checks.
I AM MUSLIM AND I AM PROUD OF THAT. YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE OVER 1 BILLION PEOPLE AND IN CASE THERE WERE SOME BAD RULERS INSIDE MUSLIM WORLD WHO CAN NOT RESPOND TO YOU, I WILL BE ONE OF TENS OF MILLIONS WHO CAN PROVE THAT YOU ARE INACCURATE IN YOUR WORK, YOU COME WITH FALSE THINGS AND CONSIDER THEM AS AN EVIDENCE.
Tens of millions, eh? Hoowee. Would you fellows mind lining up single file along that wall? Otherwise I might not be able to get in and out of my office. But alas, I rather suspect that these tens of millions with all their evidence of my inaccuracy will end up like Khaleel Mohammed and all the others who have made similar claims -- they talk a good game, but never quite succeed in backing it up.
And this emailer's evidence of my horrible inaccuracy is particularly telling. It comes right after he inaccurately characterizes the subject of my unjustifiably famous Master's thesis:
YOU GOT THE MASTER DEGREE UPON YOUR STUDY IN CRUSADE ISSUES. TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE INACCURATE, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO THE STORY OF KUWAITI SINGER WHO JOINED AL-QAEDA RECENTLY. YOU QUOTED FROM ALARABIYA WEBSITE. THAT WAS THE LINK http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/03/15/46971.html LOOK AT THE WEB TODAY AND FIND THE NEW STORY http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/03/16/47028.html THE STORY IS IN ARABIC BUT YOU CAN FIND A TRANSLATOR TO PAY FOR. THE TITLE OF THE STORY SAYS THAT FAMILY OF THIS SINGER ASSERTS THAT HE HAS TRAVELED TO IRAN TO HELP THE POOR SUNNIS LIVING THERE AND HE WILL COME BACK TO KUWAIT AFTER A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS. IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO AIRFLIGHTS FROM KUWAIT TO AFGHANISTAN. THIS IS ONE OF YOUR LIES POSTED ON JIHADWATCH WEB.
The lies in question would be here, in the post about the Kuwaiti singer. But you'll notice that all the information there comes from the Al-Arabiya article. So this guy is calling me a liar for quoting what Al-Arabiya is itself reporting.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LIES YOU HAVE PUT INSIDE YOUR BOOK ABOUT THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (PEACE BE UPON HIM) WHO LED MILLIONS TO GOODNESS AND PEACE. AT THE MOMENT, I AM LIVING IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY AND IN MY DISTRICT THERE IS A CHURCH FOR TENS OF CHIRISTIANS LIVING THERE.
Wow! Tens of Christians! Oh, the tolerance!
THE CHURCH IS SAFE IN A SIMILAR WAY TO THOSE CHURCHES IN CAIRO, DAMASCUS AND OTHER MUSLIM CITIES. THE PROTECTION OF CHRISTIANS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE SECOND RASHIDI CALIPH, OMAR BIN ALKHATTAB (MERCY BE UPON HIM) WHO ENTERED JERUSALEM IN PEACE AND WITHOUT FIGHT. HE WAS THE COMPANION OF MUHAMMED THE PROPHET. THINK OF THAT AND YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH. STUDY THE STORY OF MUHAMMED BY IBN HUSHAM OR SAHIH AL-BUKHARI.
Sure, there are churches all over the Islamic world, and they were unmolested as long as the Christians remembered their second-class status as dhimmis -- as long as they knew their place and paid the jizya. And in fact, yes, Ibn Hisham and Bukhari were two of my principal sources for The Truth About Muhammad.
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Surely We have given thee abundance
so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice
Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
That's Qur'an 108:1-3, in case you were wondering.
THANK YOU PROF KHALIL FOR DEFENDING MUHAMMED THE PROPHET, YOUR SAVIOR INSHALLAH
Muhammad is the Savior? I'm not sure that's an orthodox Muslim statement! But in any case, here we see yet again the inchoate rage, the inability to form coherent arguments, the furious invective and false charges. These kinds of messages give me confidence: I just don't see men like this as world conquerors.
IT IS SO ANNOYING WHEN SOMEONE (lots of the followers of the self-styled "prophet" do that) TYPES IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE IT INDICATES THAT THE PERSON IS SHOUTING. HE IS SO ENRAGED THAT HE HAS TO USE CAPITAL LETTERS TO TRY AND GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS.
Oh, about the poster? S.O.S (sorry didn't mean to shout: s.o.s [last word starts with an "s" and ends with a "t"--in between we have the letters "i" and "h," not in that order])
How sad...very sad. Gosh I do love being free and not the mohamedanbots, who are trapped in a cage and the only way it seems to escape, momentarily, is to lash out.
"I just don't see men like this as world conquerors.-RS"
I think we'll suffocate the medieval, more evil than medi ;), culture sooner or later. They were successful in the days when people feared most from terror. Unless we go Nuke, the Islamic germ is going to keep on pestering us for tens of years and many of generations in the future, unless a good politician with massive set of balls 'talk the needed talk' to them. Robert, you know damn well we are dealing with low life. It doesn't get any lower. Thanks to your web-site and the good folks congregate to exchange similar opinions. I know I gonne keep on fighting till my last breath.
Robert,
As you so accurately pointed out he can't keep his quotes straight. He also seems to think that if "TENS OF MILLIONS" means there is by shier numbers it must be right. His reference to money implies that is what you are in it for. And like wise to politicians were the power is. Then as you point out he justifies the alleged peacefulness of Islam by have "TENS OF CHIRISTIANS LIVING THERE". The 'THERE' is as you realize is 'dar islam' or withing countries were Islam is the majority. I will concede he was referring to tens of thousands or hundreds or some large number. The bad rulers could mean any of the dictator states in Islam controlled countries. These are the bad people everyone else is OK. Oh, except for the boomer's and assigns or are the, NO just the rulers.
So, the bottom line this letter was based on emotion and was not meant to change your mind but more to threaten you. One last thing I see is that this writer as well as the other muslem's know that it takes money and influence of the powerful to get their way. That IMO is the main tactic in the US and other places. The occasional (10,000+) boomings are just a diversion and is played mostly to the muslem world.
I hope he reads this and other posts and responds in an truthful and intelligent way. One all ways hopes.
All these guys emailing these self professed verbal accuracies on Islam end up accomplishing the same. Putting perfume on a pig.
I would like to hear from this bullshit artist about the MURDERED CHALDEAN ARCHBISHOP and the 10,700 jihadi attacks since 9/11 .
This kind of )(^*&^)^YT)98 makes me so mad I can't see straight. It's hard to keep any kind of faith when people like this dump this vitriol on people more responsible for saving them than they are themselves — and Khaleel Mohammad, who was enraged that no Muslims showed up for the "Free Muslims against Terrorism" rally in DC (I was there, so I know), should SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS.
Enough of this blasphemy-accusation crap. Enough! Enough! These veiled threats and endless bullshit invective.
Oh, I'm so furious.
OT
First islamic elementary school in Korea.
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11777&size=A
Kim Hwan-yoo, secretary general of the organisation, explains that the institute will be named after Saudi sultan Bin Abdul Aziz: “We will present the official request to the government as soon as possible, but there shouldn’t be any problems. Many Koreans have distorted information about Islam, since many years ago some Muslims did not behave well, forcibly converting some of the natives”.
Therefore, Kim adds, “the main goal is that of correcting a distorted view of our religion. School is not only for children: for us, it will be a mission”.
Misunderstood everywhere.
OT
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/16/nrowan316.xml
A survey of London clergy by National Churchwatch, which provides personal safety advice, found that nearly half said they had been attacked in the previous 12 months. The organisation suggested that vicars should consider taking off their dog collars when they are on their own.
This was obviously written by a lunatic who has no clue how the American system works or how representative democracy works in general. Money does not flow from politicians.
Wait, Robert is getting money from politicians? I thought he got it all from the joooos!
;)
"WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LIES YOU HAVE PUT INSIDE YOUR BOOK ABOUT THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (PEACE BE UPON HIM) WHO LED MILLIONS TO GOODNESS AND PEACE."
The lies & allegations towards Robert were hard enough to read, but then this guy labels Muhammad as some kind of a hero and "savior" on top of the insults to Robert. Muhammad has NOT brought "goodness and peace" to mankind, and Mo is certainly no savior; if anything Muhammad has brought nothing but calamity and evil into each of our lives by way of Islam.
There are those who have not found God's goodness yet, but your search is over where evil is concerned. Look no further, evil can be found within Islam.
OMAR BIN ALKHATTAB (MERCY BE UPON HIM) WHO ENTERED JERUSALEM IN PEACE AND WITHOUT FIGHT.
Jerusalem was under seige for 18 months before it surrendered. ohh that was so peaceful.
Robert Spencer is not the problem.
The problem is islam inserting itself into the West.
We will never see Muhammad as "savior". Never.
The best thing moslems can do is stop the attempt to take the West into the moslem world. There is going to be resistance. We will not surrender our beliefs, and our freedom. Moslems cannot stand criticism, there is going to be a lot more criticism of your johnny-come-lately religion. The West has freedom of thought and speech, freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticize religion, like it or not.
AND, who are you accusing of HATE?
The RoP® is based on hatred of the kaffir.
Islam requires believers to hate the unbelievers.
Left hand cut off, right foot cut off and eyes burntout. That's Mohammads mercy.
I don't find that to be very impressive. You can find other spiritual leadership that is not covered in blood and crime.
'YOU WANT RAGE, I WILL GIVE YOU RAGE...and I would give you MORE of it, if I knew how to make this font bigger.
I know this guy is serious, but this kind of stuff cracks me up. The absurdity of it effects me like those jungle mushrooms. Extreme hilarity.
Maybe Allah and Islam are not funny, but some muslims are. The funny part is that they are not trying to be funny, but manage it anyway. Reminds me of an old movie I saw once called 'Red River Johnny', it was supposed to be serious, but was so overacted, and over done, it was comedic.
Unintended humor. That's what makes this letter funny. Overacted, over done...
Robert got the humor in it at the part about his pockets being filled with cash. I bet he laughed out loud when he read that...
I also caught that about Mohammad the savior, that's not Mohammad worship is it? Naw he didn't mean that...did he?
Islam is a frustrating lie because it can not produce any real peace in the hearts of human beings. It also must kill those who criticize and challenge it because if it had the truth, the truth would speak for itself.
No sir, Mohammad is no savior but rather a servant of the Father of Lies, the devil.
After the Tsunami of 2004, I'd be embarrassed to be a Muslim. Such little charity runs through the community of Islam, even for its people. It was Christians who gave the most money for human beings because Christianity is the truth and creates real love in the hearts of human beings.
If Islam is so great, where is the greatness. I see only sand.
A survey of London clergy by National
Churchwatch, which provides personal safety
advice, found that nearly half said they had
been attacked in the previous 12 months. The
organisation suggested that vicars should
consider taking off their dog collars when
they are on their own.
Posted by: Borg
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What a crock of... I wonder what kind of reaction would come if Muslims were asked to remove the skull cap, hajib or turban?
Why should clergy (anyone) have to adapt their traditions for THUGS?????? Has the world gone mad??? What next... "Don't drive your nice cars so car jackers won't jack them"?
Oh please someone just give ME the coordinates and the password...I'll do it.
I think Robert should create the section "hate mail watch"; I would certainly love to read what people sends to him every day!
If its somewhat as fun as the hate mails I used to get, then I promise, everyone will have a big laugh on what fanaticals can write!
Trust me, hate mail is one fun thing to read! When you are feeling a bit down, or feeling very "dumb"(in case you study; and everyone knows more than you do... I get this sensation too), you will feel the smartest person in the whole world when you read what fanaticals write!
About the message; No wonder he believes in that stuff, and I have yet to see a pagan temple, a christian church or any other religious stablishment, with their original symbols in a islamic country...
When I was in high school, our mascot was Satan. Needless to say, our teams always lost, and we were the butt of many jokes. Now, I am not sure what this has to do with anything except possibly as a chimera to wage psych war on the visiting team, but since our reputation as losers always preceded us, it didn't seem to matter what our mascot was. So it is with the musulmani. Always boasting about their billions and our dozens, all the silly saber rattling, and still, they remain losers.
Bad DeeMack...
No red button for you!
We're going to have to do it the hard way, one at a time (revert, convert, re-habilitate, de-program, lock up, bring into the light, straighten out... you get the idea) and we’d better start soon!
P.S. 21°25′00′′N 39°49′00′′E (working on that last part)
Just the facts, ma'am.
- Joe Friday
TENS OF CHIRISTIANS LIVING THERE". The 'THERE' is as you realize is 'dar islam' or withing countries were Islam is the majority.
can he explain were the millions of jews and crhistains went too after the hoards of Mohammad overran the CHRISTIAN MIDDLE EAST
Again, another maniac who doesn't know how to use a full stop and who enjoys using CAPS LOCK A LOT.
Obviously, he's just so full of rage that he can't hack it.
By the way, the "TENS OF CHIRISTIANS" he refers to is false. There are no Chiristians, or are they the new Palestinians that we just haven't heard about yet? Since there are no "Chiristians", there is no hope at all that there would be ten of them, let alone one.
Poor Khaleel has never learned to communicate in a discerning and reasonable fashion. I cannot understand the the lack of cognition and reason of the muslim mindset. But it seems as though they are literally HELL-bent on their beliefs.
I just don't see men like this as world conquerors. posted by Robert
The lowly cockroach may not be viewed as a conqueror of the insect world either, yet by shear numbers and determination, they have infested every continent except Antarctica.
IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO AIRFLIGHTS FROM KUWAIT TO AFGHANISTAN. THIS IS ONE OF YOUR LIES
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A small point, perhaps, but this is one of my favorites. I presume he means there are no *direct* flights from Kuwait to Afghanistan--this may well be true.
Hey, there are no flights from Oakland to New Orleans, either--damned inconvenient, if you ask me. And yet, my husband will be traveling there next month--how can that be? Well, he changes planes in Houston--problem solved.
Hey, there were no direct flights from the Bay Area to Taliban-era Afghanistan, either, when John Walker Lindh made the trip, yet somehow he made it there. It wasn't all that easy for jihadists to fly directly into Baghdad in the early days of the Iraq war, either--most of them flew to Syria first, and then came into Iraq through the "back door"--overland.
That is one thing terrorists seem to be quite talented at. They can pack up from anywhere in the world--Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Britain, the US, and quickly find their way to whatever obscure Islamic hellhole has the latest outbreak of anti-Infidel violence.
" Muslim hate mail " is redundant. There is apparently no other type of muslim mail. That might lead one to conclude that there may be no other type of "muslim male" than a hateful one. In fact, I am of the opinion that "hate" and muslim go together like a hand in a glove.
"TENS OF CHIRISTIANS LIVING THERE". The 'THERE' is as you realize is 'dar islam' or withing countries were Islam is the majority.
can he explain were the millions of jews and crhistains went too after the hoards of Mohammad overran the CHRISTIAN MIDDLE EAST"
Posted by: nomoreoiljizha
I won't go over all of your delightful misspellings nomoreoiljizha, but I highlighted my favorite one because it makes a picture in my head of people hiding and storing musulmans in their attics and then letting them all out at once.
Having said that, I will respond to this statement:
THE CHURCH IS SAFE IN A SIMILAR WAY TO THOSE CHURCHES IN CAIRO, DAMASCUS AND OTHER MUSLIM CITIES. THE PROTECTION OF CHRISTIANS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE SECOND RASHIDI CALIPH, OMAR BIN ALKHATTAB (MERCY BE UPON HIM) WHO ENTERED JERUSALEM IN PEACE AND WITHOUT FIGHT. HE WAS THE COMPANION OF MUHAMMED THE PROPHET. THINK OF THAT AND YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH. STUDY THE STORY OF MUHAMMED BY IBN HUSHAM OR SAHIH AL-BUKHARI
...with THIS. Explain this if you can, son of Shaytan.
Robert said
No, Islam will never conquer the world. They cannot create anything, but they can destroy. They cannot even run their own countries, but they can do some damage to ours, if we let them.
"TO SPENCER WHOSE HEART IS FILLED WITH HATE.."
I've not seen a hateful heart revealed in any of Roberts numerous postings that I've read here over the last few years. He is not hateful. Like the site explains, comments do not represent Spencers positions, and his pen pal may be confused.
Moderating a website like JW must be a major task if this milksop "world conqueror" represents typical Muslim thoughts and beliefs, and after reading the comments, I see that some posters here could do better at moderating themselves as well.
It is factual that most Muslims are in favor of peaceful relations with the western world, and I don't believe they are all as ignorant as Roberts pen pal.We need to reach them.
When angry people post hateful, misdirected words at JW, it can result in moderate Muslim visitors ignoring the website, or just angrily attacking back. We need to engage the moderates in debate here, not chase them away. Challenging the Qur'an and addressing the extremist position of sanctified violence in the name of Islam is where our task lies. Expressing hatred will not advance our cause, and instead bolsters the twisted thinking of the pen pal and his ilk.
We advance by exposing ignorance, and we have plenty of ammunition in the truth.Rant, poke, prod...it's all good, but lose the hate.
"WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LIES YOU HAVE PUT INSIDE YOUR BOOK ABOUT THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (PEACE BE UPON HIM) WHO LED MILLIONS TO GOODNESS AND PEACE. AT THE MOMENT, I AM LIVING IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY AND IN MY DISTRICT THERE IS A CHURCH FOR TENS OF CHIRISTIANS LIVING THERE."
He also led millions to war, looting, atrocities, rape and oppression of women and non-Muslims, and a legacy of hate and terrorism that's with us to this day.
And by the way, we don't predicate the protection of religious minorities on the whims and recommendations of men like Omar Bin Alkhattab. We in the Christian West consider religious freedom an inalienable human right, which no government can restrict or take away from anyone.
To all the politicians who read this article,
It is about time for America to start practicing more PREVENTIVE medecine and get rid of the first symptoms of the disease before it is too late.
Islam and the type of" Khaled Mohamed and company" have no place in the Western civilisation, they must leave this country, stop building their schools .
When are those politicians going to pass a law declaring this islamist propaganda illegal and stop the fundraising and the brainwashing in our colleges?
Pelayo,
Money also flows FROM politicians - look at how they brag about the money that they bring home to their districts, in the form of appropriations.
PMK, that is money flowing through politicians. They take our money and give it to some pet project to help their own career.
tanstaafl
You’re right... that was a stupid thing to say. I’m not really working on retrieving the launch codes. I meant it jokingly.
Then I realized that I wasn’t joking. From my perspective the Islamic-misunderstanders have absolutely nothing to loose. If they die pursuing global jihad, they enter eternal paradise. They seem to value their deaths more than life. So how then does the western culture convince them to stop waging this global war?
We must give them something to lose. I was a supporter of Tom Tancredo because his line of reasoning took him down this road. I’m not saying I’m an advocate of nuking Mecca. I am saying that we need to give them a reason to reconsider this global conquest. I was over in the gulf for a while and when they say “Death to America”, I don’t think they’re joking.
What could Islam possibly SAVE anyone FROM???
Peace, prosperity, justice, decency, or love maybe???
Why would anyone desire Islam to save them from anything anyway? Islam has earned no stripes int he humanity department because truthfully all Islam has ever managed to accomplish is kill and kill and kill through widespread brainwashing of its captive people into killer-Zombie status.
The question is: Why do these islamos care so much what we think? I mean what does the tree care if the wild boar scratches his hide against the rough trunk?
What does the moon care when dogs howl at it?
Methinks WE are the moon and they are the howling dogs. WE are the trees and they are the pigs who find comfort rubbing against the barky trunk..
They are nothing and we are everything.
Just so hard for some of us to get it so we all can act on it.