U.K.: “No intervention available to us to counter terrorist behaviour or to counter the threat of radicalisation” by prison da’wa

Here’s a start: What are prison officials doing about those inmates who are “radicalizing” others? What do the chaplains say they are doing about it? Are they sure of where each chaplain’s sympathies lie? “Jailed Muslims a terrorist target,” by Eleanor Gregson for the Sunday Sun:

Terrorist prisoners are recruiting gang members jailed in the North, it has been claimed.

And now campaigners are calling on the Government to take urgent action to tackle the problem.

Groups, including the Prison Officers” Association, POA, are concerned that young Muslims are becoming radicalised behind bars before returning home to Asian communities such as those in Middlesbrough and the west end of Newcastle.

The threat has been highlighted as a problem within all five of the UK”s high security prisons, including Frankland, in Durham “” where al Qaida mastermind Dhiren Barot is held “” and Full Sutton, in North Yorkshire.

And according to internal Ministry of Justice documents made public last week, there is “no intervention available to us to counter terrorist behaviour or to counter the threat of radicalisation”.

North Shields-born Colin Moses, head of the POA who has worked in several prisons across the region, said: “Where you have Muslims coming into North prisons from the likes of Middlesbrough and the west end of Newcastle, you get a growing number of them becoming radicalised. We”re seeing it happen.

“This is a problem which has been emerging for a while. Our prisons now hold more terrorists than anywhere else in Western Europe.

“We as a POA want radical action taken and want agreements on how we can eradicate this in our prisons.”

Kimmett Edgar, of the Prison Reform Trust, who studied prison research at Durham University in the 1980s, says he has seen a shift in the kind of radicalisation that has been present in prisons over the last two decades.

He said: “When I visited Frankland in 1985 there were concerns over extremism with IRA prisoners . . . the IRA no longer pose a threat and other organisations have come into the fore.

“There is a new worry about extremism and we don’t know enough about it.”

A spokesperson for the prison service admitted there was an “emerging picture, based on anecdotal intelligence, that suggests terrorists may be linking into gang activities”.

He added: “It is, however, recognised that this is an evolving and fluid picture. We will be working to further develop our medium and long-term strategy for the management of terrorists and gang-involved prisoners.

“The prison service is committed to delivering an extensive programme of work to tackle extremism in prison, and we actively work with partner agencies to manage issues around extremist prisoners.”

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  1. says

    Rip off the protecting cloak of “religion”. Identify it as a violent seditious political program. Declare that presence of some non-violent religious elements do not de-fang it of its venomous bite, which is even more infectious in prison.

    Thus, Islam’s not allowed in prison.

  2. says

    In prison;
    Are white supremicist prisoners allowed to read Mein Kampf?

    Are pedophile prisoners allowed to read kiddie porn?

    Why are Muslim prisoners allowed to read the Qur’an?

  3. says

    UK can establish an equivalent to Guantanamo on some remote British island (not in the Caribbean, don’t ruin that–some miserable place with unpleasant climate would be best).

    Then, the “Terrorist prisoners [who] are recruiting gang members jailed in the North . .. ” must be transferred to that remote island prison, where they are isolated from each other, kept in solitary, with no contact with the outside world and NO koran!

    “Asian” (read Paki) “gang members jailed in the North,” thusly cannot be approached by “Terrorist prisoners” as the latter are all on the remote island in solitary.

    Mix the Asians in with British prisoners–that is dilute them and NO koran! The latter is very important! As Xero G asked, do we allow kiddie porn to pedophiles in prison? Do we allow white supremacist prisoners to read “Mein Kampf?” I mean, I hope the Brits do not provide prisoners with Nazi and neo-Nazi literature.

    Similarly, we must do everything to keep any Islamic literature away from young “Asian” inmates.

    The “old Terrorists” are safely stashed away on some remote island. As they are not POWs, and therefore do no fall under the Geneva Convention, no Red Cross or any sob-sister organization need be allowed to visit them. After their sentence has been completed (whether the end of a life sentence or a release) the ones still living must be transported to some part of the umma. As there are no national divisions recognized in the umma, they could be dropped off in a part of the umma where they can do no harm to either man or beast.

  4. says

    “We as a POA want radical action taken and want agreements on how we can eradicate this in our prisons.”

    Terrorism by immigrants is an act of war against the Crown. I humbly suggest deportation and/or repatriation. The entire world will be astonished how quickly the Ummah becomes the most law abiding community in the UK.

    Unfortunately that will make the real threat – demographic conquest, inevitable. Because of this I would rather that terrorism continues to such a extent that civil strife becomes a reality. Sadly, I cannot see any other way by which our civilisation can be saved from extinction, due to the idiocy of the Lefty/Lib multicultis.

  5. says

    Obviously, neither Colin Moses or Kimmett Edgar were copied on Jacqui Smith’s memo to de-link Islam and terrorism. How dare they suggest some muslims are radical and recruit terrorist!

    What they meant to say was that some extremely religious house guests of the UK prison system were engaging in anti-Islamic activities.

    Now there, isn’t that better?

  6. says

    Nothing they can do?

    Did the word “isolation” disappear from the English language? There’s also something called “solitary confinement”.

    The UK is finished. Toodle-oo!

  7. says

    “There is a new worry about extremism and we don’t know enough about it.”

    Have they considered reading the Qur’an to learn more about it?

  8. says

    The internal Ministry of Justice documents made public last week, there is “no intervention available to us to counter terrorist behaviour or to counter the threat of radicalisation”.

    Sounds like the person doesn’t know how to think creatively, or deal with new situations, perhaps being in charge of any Ministry is a bit too much for this Drone. Demote them and install some one who is able and will do the job.

  9. says

    Letfist’s will call the isolation idea torture.
    In the US, it used to be that convicted criminals had no rights at all except food, shelter, and clothing. Any other ‘right’ is at the discretion of the warden. Remember ‘Cool Hand Luke’? Prisoners were regarded as, and treated as slaves.
    Now we have a new ball game, the prisoners now have more rights than the victims they created. Religion is one of them. Prison guards in America can’t stop Islamic instruction in prison. They can’t even legally listen to what is being said. This is why radical muslims are created in prison right under the noses of authority, which is powerless to stop it. Muslims in prison have been handed on a golden platter, the power to accuse, and the power of lawsuit. At the moment, it seems that the law backs them up…

  10. says

    Hey, I have several solutions.. it’s quite simple really.

    A. Camp Falklands.

    B. Rent cheap prison space in Siberia from the Russians.

    C. As already suggested above: permanent repatriation.

    D. Rollback of PC and “prisoners’ rights”.

  11. says

    Ministry of Justice documents:
    There is “no intervention available to us to counter terrorist behaviour or to counter the threat of radicalisation”.

    Are you kidding me? Where in hell have the adults gone?

    We have got to get these infantile incompetents out of government before they allow civilization to burn down while the fiddle around with “progress”. How do these people keep finding their way to work in the morning? Do their mommies put them on a bus?

    Start with baseball bats and tazers, and work your way up.

    Geezuz, grow up.

    (And by the way, ditto for the U.S.)