U.K.: Royal Air Force told not to wear uniforms in public to avoid "verbal abuse"

I was in the Royal Navy for 6 years and if some shit insulted the Queen or my uniform (which never happened) I would have gone for them. These arrogant shits insult the country they live in, the armed forces that defend them and want to impose their values on the majority culture.

Kick them out.

As a Yank from NYC I read these items with a sad heart. I have read many books and have seen many documentaries on WW2. I often think of the exploits of the RAF in the Battle of Britain or the sailors on the HMS Hood or the men who perished in Normandy and wonder just how fast they are spinning in their graves. Please rise up as if your country depended on it (because it does) and scare the doo doo out of your leaders and demand that they take back your country.

Fighting them over there so we can surrender to them over here.

"Fighting them over there so we can surrender to them over here."

You summed up this war so accurately.

They should have done the exact opposite:

WEAR YOUR UNIFORMS EVERYWHERE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

You counter threats with strength.

Or you lose.

Video, video, video. Get some video of a RAF officer being abused on the street. Send the video to the news and let the public experience what is happening. You can be sure that a lot of old veterans will be getting on the phone to their MP.

Don't whine, fight! Use the media to expose these bastards for what they are.

Like ErictheKuffar above, I also served in the Royal Navy, for almost 8 years. If someone had gave me any verbal in the street for wearing the uniform of which i was most proud, I too would have gone for them with physical abuse!

This is a disgrace and the people abusing our servicemen and women should be penalised. If they are indeed "asian" then hate charges should be brought against them - after all if its good enough for us its good enough for them.

Wear the uniform with pride - God Save the Queen!!

I'm sure most UK posters will have seen the classic film "Battle of Britain" already referred to above.

That was our finest hour. This is not.

On a related issue, the students union at universiry college London has voted to ban all military personnel including cadets because Britain was "waging an aggressive war overseas".

The motion was put forward by one "Sham Rajyaguru". I wonder where his loyalties lie.

Note:
Britishness not allowed in Britain.

How ironically patriotic that:

Gordon Brown has condemned reports that RAF personnel at a Cambridgeshire base were advised not to wear uniform in public for fear of verbal abuse.

Maybe Al-Broon thinks that RAF personnel should get good use out of their uniforms while they can, as they might be wearing EU uniforms in the not too distant future after he has given what is left of our sovereignty away.

Apologies if I'm piddling on anyone's bonfire here, but I have to wonder whether 'Jihad Watch reader E.B.' and I hold to the same definition of 'Predominant'

From the Daily Mail report that Celsius above refers to:

"The air base is ten miles north of Peterborough, which has a population of around 170,000. The largest non-white ethnic group is the Pakistani community of about 10,000 and in recent years it has received an unprecedented number of Eastern European migrants."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=527848&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Ten thousand, out of a total of one hundred and seventy thousand, is predominant?

I'd have to wonder as to how this matter qualified for inclusion on the pages Dhimmi Watch, aside from the grossly tenuous suggestion of Muslim involvement, in turn based on what seems to be a very lax application of the definition or 'Predominance.'

Wishbone-- thanks for the clarification. I'm changing the wording above.

"It's Tommy this and Tommy that, and chuck him out, the brute.
But it's the thin, red line of heroes when the guns begin to shoot."

-Rudyard Kipling

"It's Tommy this and Tommy that, and chuck him out, the brute.
But it's the thin, red line of heroes when the guns begin to shoot."

-Rudyard Kipling

Indeed. But there's some good news: Even Gordon Brown thinks this is ridiculous. "Brown condemns no-uniform advice," also from the BBC:

Gordon Brown has condemned reports that RAF personnel at a Cambridgeshire base were advised not to wear uniform in public for fear of verbal abuse.

If Gordon Brown is doing nothing about those rowdy 'Asians' abusing RAF personnel, this is on the contrary shameful news on his part, not theirs. The RAF commanders who issued that advisory were doing so in the best interests of their servicemen: they aren't the ones formulating immigration policy in the UK, so they are acting within their sphere of influence. What would one have them do - stage bombing raids on Peterborough? Without doing anything about something that is in his control, he decides to criticize the RAF for doing what's in theirs.

If he seriously wants them to display their uniforms, he should threaten instant deportations of any misbehaving 'Asians' to 'Asia'.

Hijabs yes uniforms no.
Got it.

Hello Wishbone,
I'd have to wonder as to how this matter qualified for inclusion on the pages Dhimmi Watch, aside from the grossly tenuous suggestion of Muslim involvement, in turn based on what seems to be a very lax application of the definition or 'Predominance.'

Well; if you are saying it is native brits and by implication Poles that are doing this, then I would disagree with you.

Not having evidence to the contrary and given the proclivity of our "minorities" (read Muslimscum) to threaten to behead members of our armed forces when they are on leave I would surmise it is not your average Brit.

So now go and shove your head up your proclivities.

Best Wishes

profitsbeard says it as well as anyone.

A little secret here, perhaps not so well kept: on the street, there are little nuances of action and word that police officers sometimes use to subtly provoke into violence people who need to get their asses kicked.

Hmmm.

MarisolJW:

Wishbone-- thanks for the clarification. I'm changing the wording above.

Marisol, without wishing to dilute the story further, it should also be pointed out that in the Daily Mail article that Wishbone mentioned, the paragraph directly following the one that he highlighted states:

"However sources close to the police and RAF said the biggest offenders had been thugs from the local white community."

I must admit that my first thought was that this was almost certainly down to those ubiquitous "Asians". But it appears that "indigenous" white chavs are mostly to blame. Scum.

Tommy

Rudyard Kipling

I WENT into a public-’ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ’e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,—
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ’adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-’alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,—
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ’ow’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of ’eroes” when the drums begin to roll,—
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ’eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

We aren’t no thin red ’eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,—
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.

You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ’is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool—you bet that Tommy sees!

Wishbone

The British media has become so sensitive on these matters it is difficult to know who is doing what. If it is white chavs they should, and probably would, have said so.

As to numbers in Peterborough, the key is in the wording. Pakistanis are said to number 10,000 but does that include British Asians? There has also been a considerable influx of Algerians, Iraqis, and Moroccans among other muslims so they are quite naturally not included in the number of “Pakistanis” and lets not forget the Bangladeshis. A cynic might see this 10,000 figure as either an attempt to mislead or a quiet way “point the finger” or an attempt to hint it was not the muslims - that is how things are in the UK today.

The MSM dare not use the M word but it is a reasonable assumption that East Europeans e.g. Poles, Czechs, Romanians and Bulgarians are not particularly put out about Afghanistan and Iraq.

BTW It could also be what they lack in numbers they make up for in enthusiasm. I think there was an amateurish attempt by “a man of Asian appearance” to burn down the cities medieval Cathedral about 4-5 years ago by setting fire to some plastic chairs.

'An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool—you bet that Tommy sees!'

Its no wonder soldiers are leaving the forces in large numbers, what kind of appreciation is this?

Sadly this type of anti-military thugishness has become all to common on both sides of the pond.
The continued erosion of established cultural identities in favor of diversity has eroded and foundation of a shared common good. The belief that moral relativism via liberal appeasement strengthens society has proven to be nothing more that rhetoric and its actual practice has lead to the acceptance of tribal camps within our counties. These tribes be they "Asian","Hispanics" or "criminal" thrive due to the destruction of majority rule in favor of political correctness...Which, if not rejected as the benchmark for critical thought will be the death of Western Civilization and herald the return of the dark ages where cults and thieves ruled the day!

Wishbone and Matamoros both quoting the Daily Mail:

"in recent years it has received an unprecedented number of Eastern European migrants."

"However sources close to the police and RAF said the biggest offenders had been thugs from the local white community."

Given the abysmal accuracy of British press in identifying Muslims (as "Asians" and, as noted in a thread below, referring to people from Uganda as "Ugandan Asians"!), I would reasonably assume -- until I see incontrovertible proof otherwise -- that these "white Eastern Europeans" are Muslims from SE Europe, the Balkans, and even Muslim Turks.

Maybe the real concern is not having an RAF member kidnapped (and beheaded?) on the homefront. It wasn't that long ago that a plot was broken up to do so to a muslim member of the British Armed Forces. It's not a big stretch to see that put into effect against ANY member of the British Armed Forces.

Do stupid white english people verbally abuse muslims who want to kill them at any time? stupid white brits are natural slaves for muslims.

This is a sad story Wittering was my fathers base of service and where I was born.

I would be careful about reading too much into the figure of 10000 as the number of Muslims in the city.

Mohammed is the most popular boys name in the City.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cambridgeshire/4553472.stm

In terms of size I would estimate from my years living there that it is comparable to Lutons Muslim population. Read Lionhearts blog to get an idea of what it is like on the streets of that particular city. Peterborough is very close.

Matamoros

Bet the white thugs where not from the BNP

Now here is a nice one from the BNP

Mr Fitzmaurice was shackled and humiliated by a British court (they are no longer fit to be called courts of justice). Eight hours in a holding cell, an hour and a half handcuffed to a guard in a security van and a lengthy wait in a police station custody unit for a prison space. When a jail cell comes free, Mr Fitzmaurice, who has four children, 14 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren, will be stripped, searched and locked up with criminals for company. Then at the end of a long traumatic day, finally, at 9.30 in the evening, this 76-year-old veteran , was allowed one phone call to his family. He told his son: “I’m okay. Don’t worry about me.”

His crime: non-payment of council tax.

For that heinous offence, Mr Fitzmaurice, who has seen the bill on his Band D property soar hugely over the years, could spend the next 34 days behind bars.

The sum owed - £1,359 - may not seem much to our MPs whose noses sink ever deeper into the trough, but it represents 16 per cent of Mr Fitzmaurice’s £8,406 Army pension.

Read that again! Mr Fitzmaurice’s £8,406 Army pension! Now note that in 1998-1999, the cost of Band D council tax in Heacham was £699. By 2007-2008 this had risen to £1,359 - an increase of 94 per cent.

Faced with demands to pay ever increasing Council Tax on a meagre fixed income meant that he and his wife were being forced to choose:

Reduce their spending on food and heating, or pay their council tax in full. Mr Fitzmaurice chose to put the needs of his frail wife of 55 years before the demands of his Councillors.

And who can blame him, for, King’s Lynn and West Norfolk Borough Council, who brought the case brought against him have been indulging in a little trough feeding themselves

Last year his borough councillors voted themselves a 35 per cent increase in allowances - 50 per cent more than an independent panel had recommended. The total extra cost to taxpayers was more than £91,000!!!

This council, like too many others has also routinely wasted so much of the money they extract from the people! In 2003, the council was criticised for spending £50,000 on a beach-cleaning tractor and mechanical rake that proved a waste of time.

The previous year, two spa pools in North Lynn built for the disabled at a cost of £30,000 were closed without being used because the construction was found to be sub-standard.
And let’s not even look at the gold plated pensions and other perks that all council officials now enjoy - at our expense!

Yesterday a cold hearted spokesman for King’s Lynn Borough Council said: “Mr Fitzmaurice does not qualify for council tax benefit, so although he can afford to pay he is choosing not to.

“He has chosen to pursue the matter in this manner, rather than settle his liability and raise his concerns through legitimate methods. The decision to impose a custodial sentence, and the length of that sentence, rests with the magistrates.”

Commenting before he went into court, Mr Fitzmaurice said he was standing up for older people on fixed incomes but faced with steeply rising living costs.

“Where is the money supposed to come from?” he asked.

“We are on some of the lowest pensions in Europe yet Britain is one of the richest countries in the world. We are being disregarded and shoved on the back burner because it’s convenient for the Government.

“People are actually sacrificing food so that they can have the heating on. Pensioners are being betrayed by the Government, yet they are the people who put this country where it is today.”

And whilst pensioners choose whether to freeze to death or starve to death, our elected MPs will be dining on steak and drinking champagne in Westminster today.

WHILE THROWING TAXPAYERS MONEY ON WORTHLESS SHIT AND THEIR PARASITIC BROOD WITH THEM, WHO SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO PAKISTAN, EGYPT OR WHAT EVER SEPTIC TANK THEY OOZED FROM.

You can read the full post here

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/dont-they-ever-work_22.html

In a way, i think this is a non-story.
Depressingly par for the course, yes, but not as bad as the humilating treatment of the wounded, for whom the security of military hospitals is no longer available.
Soldiers, sailors and airmen/airgirls tend to stand out whether they are in uniform or not. The way they move and speak (even if they are very careful as to what they speak about) puts them always at risk of recognition, and due to the rapid proliferation of the RoP in our unhappy land few areas outside military establishments can be considered really safe for them.
Back in the days when IRA activity was high, the safety of military personnel was a constant concern, even at a weddings and funerals, with the units of those involved providing security. So, we have already been there and done that, but now we need to start doing it all over again.

Posted by: cantor

Given the abysmal accuracy of British press in identifying Muslims (as "Asians" and, as noted in a thread below, referring to people from Uganda as "Ugandian Asians"!), I would reasonably assume -- until I see incontrovertible proof otherwise -- that these "white Eastern Europeans" are Muslims from SE Europe, the Balkans, and even Muslim Turks.

Cantor Surprising it may seem there are "Ugandian Asians", remember that lesbian moslem writer Manji something, whatever. Well these "Ugandian Asians" are the Asian people that Adi Amin kicked out of Uganda

1972: Asians given 90 days to leave Uganda
The Ugandan leader, Idi Amin, has set a deadline for the expulsion of most of the country's Asians.

General Amin said all Asians who are not Ugandan citizens - around 60,000 - must leave Uganda within 90 days.

The military ruler's latest statement amended his original expulsion order two days ago when he said all the country's 80,000 Asians had to go.

Asians, who are the backbone of the Ugandan economy, have been living in the country for more than a century.

But resentment against them has been building up within Uganda's black majority.

Expulsion surprises Britain

General Amin has called the Asians "bloodsuckers" and accused them of milking the economy of its wealth.

Up to 50,000 Asians in the former UK colony are British passport holders.

In a broadcast, General Amin said he would be summoning the British High Commissioner in Kampala to ask him to arrange for their removal.

ericthekuffar-

Well,well..... We are a clever little dandy, aren't we?

First off, Einstein, take the trouble to read what I write and put any words I quote in the proper context, relevant to the subject at hand and the point I'm making regarding such. I'll give you a hint: It was all about numbers and applicable definitions. There was nothing by way of implication beyond your desire to see such.

As for the rest of that guff that you spouted, you're simply embodying the very problem I'm having with this entire post. As Matamoros suggests above, even at the time I posted my first comment, there were strong suggestions that the perpetrators of this abuse were no more or less than average, run of the mill, standard, British white idiots...... Bloody chavs, if you want.

Now I don't know about you, but I'm sure even your immense, superior intellect can't add two and two and make five, which is exactly what this post has done. I don't care how much the abuse of servicemen from our 'Asian' element would come as no surprise; there is absolutely no logic at all in saying that, given no specific evidence to the contrary (and there was a strong hint that there was), that "Incident" + "presence of Muslims within a given distance" extrapolates perfectly to "The Muslims did it."

Tell you what, professor: Next time you invite someone to stick their head where the sun doesn't shine, make sure you're not speaking from the position where your head is already firmly wedged in your own backside.

Fred-

I understand perfectly where you're coming from Fred; I fully share your cynicism of the media, but on this occasion I feel that the hysteria arising from the scant evidence offered is laughable.

To be honest, I'd disagree that all the media would shy away from this one if there were Muslims of any minority involved. Even if this was an iffy one for the rest, I don't believe for one minute that The Scum or The Express would leave it alone.

As for the Eastern European minority question: There wasn't one. As I explained to Einstein above, they were only mentioned as a demographic in the Daily Mail quote and their number had no part to play in the question I was raising. The professor there just decided to make it an issue, that's all.

Your questioning the numbers of Muslims in total across the entire Pakistani / Bangladeshi / Eastern European Muslim demographic is entirely valid. However, even if we were to assign a conservative, objective guess as to their numbers, I doubt we'd be anywhere near 'Predominant.'

There is so much concrete fact missing in the reporting of these incidents of abuse, that I'm not willing to assume anything until such time as cold hard facts are presented for consumption. This is a non-story so far mate. There's not even enough to widely speculate on, never mind form a rough guess. I'm happy to stop there and wait until something else turns up. Then we can have a good rant :-)

I'm a mite confused. The RAF boss tells his men and women not to wear uniforms in public because of the risk of VERBAL abuse? Only verbal abuse? Doesn't he think they have the spine to cope with it? And if so, what kind of message is that sending? "I cannot expose my people to the risk of their feelings being hurt." These are the people entrusted to defend Britain, through brute force if necessary; if they can't cope with jeering and catcalls from local "Asian" Neanderthals and assorted other ingrates then all is indeed lost.

cantor:

Given the abysmal accuracy of British press in identifying Muslims (as "Asians" and, as noted in a thread below, referring to people from Uganda as "Ugandan Asians"!), I would reasonably assume -- until I see incontrovertible proof otherwise -- that these "white Eastern Europeans" are Muslims from SE Europe, the Balkans, and even Muslim Turks.

*Sigh*. Err, cantor, "Eastern European" was mentioned merely to illustrate the demographic make-up of Peterborough - no mention was made of such people being behind the alleged abuse. And FYI, you'd be hard pressed to find a Turk or Bosnian in Peterborough - the city's Eastern European population is comprised almost entirely of Poles, Czechs, and people from the Baltic Republics. They mostly do the manual labour jobs in nearby agriculture - dull, back-breaking crop-picking - that the local chavs consider to be beneath them.

If you don't comprehend the idea of "chav", the link below takes you to a short clip of a forthcoming TV documentary set in Peterborough. The white youths complaining about Poles stealing "their" jobs are typical chavs. (Strangely, however, when the reporter offers these unemployed young men the same jobs that the Poles are doing - crop-picking for £7 [$14] per hour - these desperate-to-work youths all turn it down. Bone idle as well as bone headed.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/white/poles.shtml

Shiva, that post is simply cut and pasted propaganda from the BNP website. It has no relevance whatsoever to this thread, so why post it? Presumably you did it for two reasons: a) to yet again plug the BNP on here, despite Robert Spencer’s repeatedly-stated opposition to its agenda, and b) to try to lure people to your own blog, which, as you point out, is merely rehashed stories from the BNP. You must be getting desperate.

"You can read the full post here"

Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer to get my news as it occurs; that story is nearly three weeks old. Mind you, living as you do in Indonesia, I suppose that it must take a while for British newspapers to filter through to you.

(By the way, did your party’s propaganda chimps bother to check the background to their story? Far from living in penury, as they imply, Fitzmaurice admits that he is quite capable of paying. He just makes it a point every year to not pay his council tax - he was jailed in 2006 too, only to be freed after two days after a donor paid up for him [pity that he didn’t pay the costs that the daft old bugger incurred to the taxpayer, too]. Although he seems to enjoy all the media attention, Fitzmaurice's wife reckons that he is “an idiot”.)

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-13552142,00.html?f=rss

tanstaafl,

Well, you've added an item to my "to do" list--Namely, read Kipling! Thank you for posting the poem. :-)

Shiva, that post is simply cut and pasted propaganda from the BNP website. It has no relevance whatsoever to this thread, so why post it?

It had quite a lot of relevance, in showing how ex-service men are looked down upon in the UK, and this is just one of many examples, I could make many more, such as when troops returning to the UK could not wear their uniforms.

And you are not much better with your snide comment referring Fitzmaurice as a "daft old bugger"

Presumably you did it for two reasons: a) to yet again plug the BNP on here, despite Robert Spencer’s repeatedly-stated opposition to its agenda,

How wrong you are! Again.You have on an earlier thread slagged me off, and that post got you banned.And you had to grovel to Mr Spencer to be re-instated. Now once again you assume/presume If you had even bothered to open the link, you would have noticed there is no mention of BNP anywhere on that post. So please explain, how in the heck an I plugging BNP.

By the way, I am fully aware of Mr Spencers stand
as I had a PM from him nearly four years ago concerning a matter very similar to this.So I do not have to be reminded by an occasional visitor such as you.

and b)to try to lure people to your own blog, which, as you point out, is merely rehashed stories from the BNP. You must be getting desperate.

Me desperate. Yes I may be desperate, but not in the way you could ever image. I am that desperate to taking time out (to expose the ugly side of Islam,)from enjoying a paradise that folks like you pay thousands of pounds to enjoy for a couple of weeks. While dimwits like you see more danger in the BNP than islam.

Some times I think why bother when I encounter dim wits like you.

What a lot of crap you fabricate.

I prefer to get my news as it occurs; that story is nearly three weeks old. Mind you, living as you do in Indonesia, I suppose that it must take a while for British newspapers to filter through to you.

What a fool you are, most of us bloggers in Asia and Australia are reading the British newspapers for what they are worth, as they come out while eating breakfast on sunny beaches, while you poor souls are still sleeping in rainy old Blighty. So seem to forget we are 8-12 hours in front of you.

Now if you had opened the link you would see that

#1 British MPS are getting (not earning) £60,000 and claim on average £135,000 expenses each year,

#2 The wife of the terrorist who sponged £20,352 a year off the taxpayer while plotting to behead a squaddie will STILL collect benefits.

#3 Mr Fitzmaurice’s £8,406 Army pension!

Well Mataros I find you and the link you gave disgusting to call an ex service man “an idiot” and "daft old bugger"

Yet stay very quite about British MPs who will be dining on steak and drinking champagne in Westminster today.

WHILE THROWING TAXPAYERS MONEY ON WORTHLESS SHIT AND THEIR PARASITIC BROOD.

cantor and Shiva

Ugandan Asians aren't 'Asians' in the way Brit Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh are:

In August 1972, Idi Amin declared what he called an "economic war", a set of policies that included the expropriation of properties owned by Asians and Europeans. Uganda's 80,000 Asians were mostly Indians born in the country, whose ancestors had come to Uganda when the country was still a British colony. Many owned businesses, including large-scale enterprises, that formed the backbone of the Ugandan economy. On August 4, 1972, Amin issued a decree ordering the expulsion of the 60,000 Asians who were not Ugandan citizens (most of them held British passports). This was later amended to include all 80,000 Asians, with the exception of professionals, such as doctors, lawyers and teachers. A plurality of the Asians with British passports, around 30,000, emigrated to Britain. Others went to Australia, Canada, India, Sweden, and the U.S. Amin expropriated businesses and properties belonging to the Asians and handed them over to his supporters. The businesses were mismanaged, and industries collapsed from lack of maintenance. This proved disastrous for the already declining economy

Also, Idi Amin was the Muslim supremacist of the time - a Muslim ruler of a country that was and is overwhelmingly non-Muslim.

Some thing more for you Mataros

I prefer to get my news as it occurs,

How did you miss this. were you still sleeping.I just read it while drinking fresh mango and lime juice

After windows in her home and car were smashed in a campaign of abuse lasting five months, an RAF nurse in Peterborough finally told senior officers she thought she was being targeted because she wore her uniform in public.

Yesterday, as the issue of attacks on servicemen and women escalated and drew opprobrium from the prime minister and forces leaders, it became clear that the episode with the RAF nurse was the "tipping point" for the controversial decision to stop RAF personnel wearing their uniforms on trips off their base.

The nurse, who has not been named, was training at the Ministry of Defence Hospital Unit at the Peterborough District Hospital in 2006 when she was regularly verbally abused for wearing her RAF uniform. She also had her house and car vandalised.

"Between June and October 2006 she had a window in her house smashed, one window in her car smashed, and there were scratches made on panels of the car," an MOD spokesman said yesterday. "She received verbal abuse as well."

The woman reported the attacks to her police and base commander at RAF Wittering in October 2006.

"That incident was used to raise concern about the safety of military personnel with police and base police as well," said the spokesman.

There were other "isolated" instances, the MOD confirmed. Defence minister Derek Twigg said yesterday a "small minority of people" had abused uniformed personnel.

No one was charged in connection with the attacks on the nurse, but her experiences were "the tipping point", according to another MoD source. They led to the ban on RAF personnel from Wittering wandering around Peterborough town centre in uniform.

The order was issued in April last year by Group Captain Ro Atherton, the RAF Wittering station commander, the MoD source said, but never made public. "It certainly wasn't a knee-jerk reaction," he said.

The ban became public knowledge on Thursday night, revealed in a local newspaper campaign urging the forces to wear their unifroms with pride.

Within hours - nine months after it was communicated to all relevant RAF personnel by letter - the revelation led Gordon Brown to rush out a statement condemning the move.

You talk about filtering of the news

PS. There is mention of white thugs being the culprits, any chance these white thugs have any thing to do with the leftist red fascist anti-war/UAF rabble

Infidel Pride

Thanx for the effort, but I am already aware of this fact,

Shiva:

"So please explain, how in the heck an I plugging BNP."

Ehm, perhaps it was the sentence: “Now here is a nice one from the BNP”? It was a bit of a giveaway.

"It had quite a lot of relevance, in showing how ex-service men are looked down upon in the UK"

No it didn’t. It showed how people who are able to pay their taxes, but refuse to, are treated in the UK. They are given every chance to pay and then, as a last resort, are taken to court at public expense to try to get the money from them. In that respect the UK is no different to the USA, Canada, Australia or any other country. I’m sure that even your tropical paradise of Indonesia doesn’t tolerate tax refuseniks (and I’ll bet the penalty is far greater than a couple of weeks in jail, too).

"Mr Fitzmaurice’s £8,406 Army pension!"

Plus their couples state pension of £139.60 a week, of course. Altogether, comes to a total basic income of just over £15,600 a year - not a lot, but more than most poor British pensioners have to get by on. Fully paid-for £300,000 detached house, so no housing costs. Plus savings, no doubt. Not forgetting the tidy sum that Fitzmaurice got from selling his story to the media the last time that he was jailed two years ago (and the fact that well-wishers paid his tax for him that year, too). All in all, he’s a long way from the workhouse door.

And it was his wife who labelled him an idiot, not me. But yes, I do consider him a daft old bugger. Every year, while he revels in the media attention that it brings him, he forces the British taxpayer to waste a considerable sum chasing him for his own tax payment. Perhaps if he were billed for this cost, rather than jailed, it might put a stop to his annual fun and games?

"I am that desperate to taking time out (to expose the ugly side of Islam,)from enjoying a paradise that folks like you pay thousands of pounds to enjoy for a couple of weeks."

Mango and lime juice on the beach, eh? Sounds idyllic. Mind you, some might think it a bit rich that you post on here attacking immigrants and all things Islamic, while simultaneously boasting about the grand life that you live as an immigrant in a Muslim country. Especially when you consider the fact that, while you sit on your paradisiacal beach enjoying your fruit juice, native Indonesian non-Muslims face rising discrimination and violence. Still, that’s all a long way from your front door, by the sound of it. Chin-chin!

“Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.”

What would Churchill have to say about the RAF today?

Copied this from the uppompii site's Sir Henry Morgan. I think he is a BNP organiser but says he is married to a Malay so I dont know if he gets any Brownie points for that.

"My sister emailed me tis morning to tell me about that. She said it had said on the radio that it was servicemen from RAF Wittering who had been ordered not to wear their uniforms into Peterborough because MUSLIMS were giving them stick.

I read about it later on a news thread and all mention of the M word had gone - they had become just 'ant-war protesters"

Make of it what you will.

Ehm, perhaps it was the sentence: “Now here is a nice one from the BNP”? It was a bit of a giveaway.

Not a give away, it was a piece of bait that you swallowed nicely,also a snide dig at you. There is a great difference. I afraid you reek of UAF, and your snapping at the bait only confirms the stench

Altogether, comes to a total basic income of just over £15,600 a year

Still falls short of what the slime in Westminster are paying out to moslems that are infesting Britain.

It is good that there are some who refuse to pay their taxes, when you see how much is squandered on the moslem scum.

And I find it loathsome of you to condemn this, as you say "daft old bugger".yet stay silent about the moslems that are conning the british tax payer.

I’m sure that even your tropical paradise of Indonesia doesn’t tolerate tax refuseniks (and I’ll bet the penalty is far greater than a couple of weeks in jail, too).

You have no idea how it works here, but here is a clue, more than 90% of Indonesians do not pay tax.
Ex-pats such as myself have to pay tax in advance before getting a working visa.

Especially when you consider the fact that, while you sit on your paradisiacal beach enjoying your fruit juice, native Indonesian non-Muslims face rising discrimination and violence. Still, that’s all a long way from your front door, by the sound of it.

Being in the middle of the discrimination and violence is a long way from my front door. Well how many blogs from Indonesia bring you this

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/03/where-i-live-pt6.html

Even our esteemed Mr Robert Spencer is to Political Correct even when sitting in safety in the U.S.A to show scenes like this.

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/03/where-i-live-pt7.html

So Mataros, Not only have I been a witness to what goes on here, I also put it on the blog sphere,so I see no problems in enjoying a fresh Papaya Lassie

Now here is something you will not find in the BNP propaganda

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/where-i-live-pt-19-some-thing-stinks-in.html

There is a large Muslim problem in Peterborough and I am one of the bloggers on UpPompeii. One of the commenters on our site detailed some rapes carried out by Muslims in Peterborough. Make of that what you will.

Daffersd

I was wondering what the bloggers on this thread who have been insisting that there were hardly any muslims in Peterborough, it was all white chavs and we are hysterical islamophobes would make of it.

Well they are pretty ignorant about Peterborough, I had family living there at one point and there is a significant population there which have created their own little world.

Fred-

No one said there were hardly any Muslims in Peterborough; No one said it 'was all white chavs' and no one said you were any manner of hysterical islamophobe. If I've said any of that, I'm sure you'll be more than willing to point out exactly where.

What has been called into question is the manner in which this report has been presented by some, in order to justify their own theories with regard to the Muslim population of Peterborough. Even as sketchy as these reports are, the strongest indication so far is that these incidents were not perpetrated by Muslims.

Just because some wish to find Muslims hiding under the carpet at the scene of every negative incident reported isn't going to make it so.

Daffersd-

You're handy with that 'ignorant' label mate. How about you have a look and read what's been said about the Muslim population of Peterborough on this thread and see if you can pinpoint exactly where anybody said there wasn't a sizeable bunch of them down there.

Wishbone

What has been called into question is the manner in which this report has been presented by some, in order to justify their own theories with regard to the Muslim population of Peterborough. Even as sketchy as these reports are, the strongest indication so far is that these incidents were not perpetrated by Muslims.

Dont rely on the MSM on this one, there are several forums already discussing this where it was reported that

A local councilor was being interviewed about it on the radio today. Its not just the RAF who are receiving abuse. Army and Sea Cadets both are also getting verbally abused and in some cases attacked. Bearing in mind that these are mainly kids aged between 12 and 16.

When pressed on the matter he said that the abuse and attacks were coming from Afgan Iraqi and muslim youths with some of them of them being asylum seekers.

It has not been mentioned here but the original report was about " a cross-section of the community" being abusive to servicemen.

And the meaning of cross-section is...? old/young/black/white/male/female/ etc.

Whatever ... they should be put on the first plane to Iraq, Afghanistan.

Shiva-

You'll note I said 'strongest indication so far'

Don't misunderstand me...... If I'm presented with factual evidence to support any other theory as regards the perpetrators of this abuse, then I'm more than willing to entertain it and adjust my view accordingly.

However, so far I've seen none of this, so I can only operate on what information is so far confirmed and corroborated. If you have any links at all to any other pertinent information then please, by all means, post it and I will give it it's due consideration.

So far I've only been told to shove my head up my arse without so much as a rational explanation as to how said poster believes it belongs up there in the first place, so you'll understand that I remain sceptical until such evidence is produced that supports the Muslim angle.