This is why you can't carry your latte onto the plane anymore.
"It would have caused a civilian death toll on an 'almost unprecedented scale' and a 'global impact'." And they were ready to do it in the name of Islam -- yet peaceful Muslims have made no large-scale attempt to disabuse such Muslims of this theology that the peaceful ones say they reject, and all too many law enforcement and government continue to ignore or downplay the Islamic aspect of their motivation, central as it is, as irrelevant.
From the Daily Mail (thanks to all who sent this in):
A British terror gang plotted to use liquid explosives to blow up transatlantic passenger jets in mid-flight, a court heard today.Eight men planned to smuggle bombs disguised as soft drinks on to flights from Heathrow to the United States and Canada and detonate them on board, Woolwich crown court was told.
It would have caused a civilian death toll on an "almost unprecedented scale" and a "global impact".
The gang allegedly targeted seven flights operated by Air Canada, United Airlines and American Airlines. [...]
Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, said they had planned, "all in the name of Islam", to carry out a "series of coordinated and deadly explosions" and were "indifferent to the carnage" that would have been caused. [...]
"At the very least" seven planes would have been targeted, Mr Wright said.
The jury heard that the gang planned to smuggle components of the homemade bombs on to the flights as "innocuous hand luggage".
The court heard the bombers intended to use hydrogen peroxide and mix it with a product called Tang, used in soft drinks, to turn it into an explosive.
They intended to carry it on board disguised as 500ml bottles of Oasis or Lucozade by using food dye to recreate the drinks' distinctive colour.
The detonator would have been disguised as AA 1.5 batteries. The contents of the batteries would have been removed and an electric element such as a lightbulb or wiring would have been inserted.
A disposable camera would have provided a power source.
"These items would have the capability of being detonated with devastating consequences," said Mr Wright....
Ban Muslim Immigration.
Of course they are innocent as we (non Muslims) are guilty (of existing)!
Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, said they had planned, "all in the name of Islam", to carry out a "series of coordinated and deadly explosions" and were "indifferent to the carnage" that would have been caused. [...]
Isn't Mr. Wright guilty under the new British law that doesn't allow any public servants to equate Islam with violence? I'm surprised the judge didn't over rule his comments.(sarcasm off)
Ya Know what I tell ya? It makes them go cockoo on the inside. You see, but we just gotta watch them sensibilities of Muslims. We better sit back and wait for them mass protest begin and condemnations from the UN and UNESCO, oh not to forget our western leaders. Them Mohammedans love peace...its just they have a funny way of showing it.
Joking aside it is pretty sick!!
Maybe if we can encourage Geert Wilders to ignore his critics and come up with Fitna the Sequel, Fitna 3, 4 and maybe Die Hard with a Fitna, these folks will be so busy flipping out they won't remember to plan any bombing runs for a while.
Is ADHD an inherent problem in Islam? Jihadis on Aderall...maybe that could be a whole new series.
"all in the name of Islam"
Silly Misunderstanders! Don't they know that Islam is peaceful and it does not condone this kind of criminal behavior?
/sarc off
Is ADHD an inherent problem in Islam? Jihadis on Aderall...maybe that could be a whole new series.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
I don't know about that, but I am sure consanguinity is possibly a factor.Too much intermarriage can cause birth defects!
Till about a couple of months ago, the sister paper to Daily Mail, The Daily Express, printed quite a few factual articles about Islam, and the goings on of "radical" Muslims. It also had a very liberal editor when it came to the publication of comments.
No more. The Daily Express now shies away from such topics.
Ban Muslim Immigration.
Posted by: Un:dhimmi at April 3, 2008 5:28 PM
Yup. Not only morally speaking, but also demographically speaking. Hello.
Flying is not for sissies anymore:
Fighting Back at 40,000 Feet
"Peaceful Muslims have made no large-scale attempt to disabuse such Muslims of this theology"
- That's because they know they can't, but still insist on deceiving non-Muslims into thinking that they can.
Jesus said, "The Thief comes but for to kill, steal, and destroy; I have come that you might have life, and have it more abundantly".
Bet you didn't know that islam was mentioned in the Bible!
These misunderstanders of Islam are just a few of a tiny minority of extremists. You can't tarnish the whole religon over the actions of a few. They are not Muslims. Islam condemns terrorism. There have also been Russian, Chinese and Cuban hijackers. Look what the Jews are doing! Look what America is doing to us!
Did I leave anything out?
Maybe if we can encourage Geert Wilders to ignore his critics and come up with Fitna the Sequel, Fitna 3, 4 and maybe Die Hard with a Fitna, these folks will be so busy flipping out they won't remember to plan any bombing runs for a while.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at April 3, 2008 5:42 PM
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Why not make a movie about the seven or eight airliners which were almost blown up? That would be a great place to start.
I wonder what will happen when Jihadists start hiding explosives up their rectums? Will we all have to bend over for each flight we take? LOL. Perhaps then, the liberal secularists will get the point. LOL.
On a related subject, I've seen all the translations of the Fitna Movie at Gates of Vienna. Has anyone translated it into Arabic for the gentle folks in the Middle East to see?
Non-homicidal muslism need to worry about a fundamentaly evil backlash. Japanies Americans and the Cherokee Nation know what I am talking about. We did not drop Imperial Germany, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and the Soviet Union to live in fear of these morons.
The islamic world is the desert of arabia -and does not belong anywhere else (nor is it welcomed).
Return islam to that desert and contain it therein -forever.
I remember Tang, the orange-juice of astronauts (tm), from the 1970's. It never occurred to me to try to blow up a jetliner with it. Muslims need to come up with their own Nobel Prize equivalent, maybe call it the Ignoble Prize, for their brilliance in figuring out how to use peaceful products to blow stuff up.
sheik yer'mami said
Great list. How about:
"You're all a bunch of racists and Islamophobes. The suspects have no known ties to Al Qaeda. The word 'Islam' translates to 'peace'. And if you don't stop noticing how we Muslims are trying to kill you, we'll kill you."
"These misunderstanders of Islam are just a few of a tiny minority of extremists. You can't tarnish the whole religon over the actions of a few. They are not Muslims. Islam condemns terrorism. There have also been Russian, Chinese and Cuban hijackers. Look what the Jews are doing! Look what America is doing to us!" --sheik yer'mami
sheik yer'mami,
No need to tarnish Islam, It does a pretty good job of doing that on its own.
Don't remember any reports of Russian, Chinese and Cuban hijackers screaming their brains out with "Allah Akbar"
And still looking for what the Jews are doing, except trying to survive.
Religion of Peace, right Mr. Bush?
The Arabic text is the script on the right. They can figure the rest out, except maybe "The sound you heard..." (is that why they are rioting?).
Anyone care to slowly and carefully step through the logic of this attack? About what the motivation was, what the goals were, and how this attack would have helped those goals to be attained?
Thank God they were stopped.
They just have to succeed one time.
OT the Dutch Prime Minister says Islam is the problem.
http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2008/04/dutch-prime-minister-islam-is-problem.html
I don't think there is any logic to it. These guys seem to just work themselves into a tizzy and then plan whatever has the biggest bang for the buck. They call daddy Suad and after he strokes them a check, they get working on it like busy little bees. I do have to laugh every time they get caught though. But I want to cry every time one of our authorities can't quite seem to make the connection to Islam.
But c'mon, exploding airplanes? We've seen this before. Don't they have anything else in their bag of tricks? When it comes to planes, we're on to ya'.
That's Saud. Calgon, take me away!
Motivation: Impatient supremicism, repressed sexuality, inculcated grieveances, and apprehensions of grandeur.
Demography alone will get them there as long as Westerners care too much about "our planet" and "our lifestyles" to reproduce appropriately, and comprehend too much post-colonial and affluence-related "guilt" to limit aid and immigration. They wanted to be martyrs to gain the houris. They, or their directors, wanted "something big", similar to the fuel explosives in Iraq, lots of fire, smoke and chaos for the cameras, producing better media magnification of the event.
Goals: Intimidated appeasement in foreign policy/foreign relations/internal affair concessions.
Practical Application: Production of poorly focused populace fear, based on the horrific scale, ruthlessness and unexpected (thus incompletely accounted) vulnerabilities, intended to produce irrational, reflexive appeasement by politicians trying to stay off repeat events and reassure their constituents that life can get back to "normal", that the world is still rational (cause-effect), etc.
We are moderate Muslims and we are telling you that Islam is the religion of peace. If you don't believe us, we will kill you.
Hydrogen peroxide and tang make an explosive?
I wonder if I can adapt that to produce hydrogen to run my car? Yes, the mad scientist duh swami is hard at work on hydrogen fuel cells. My part to get off MI oil. Old guys tinkering in their garages may just save the world, or at least blow up the garage...it always has been like that, and always will...
TINBH says,
Imagine how many "innocents" would NOT be killed there in such a scenario.
Hydrogen peroxide and Tang? Batteries? Camera? Sounds like nothing more than innocent fireworks to me. It's all just a misunderstanding.
Shut up! I keel you!
The West has got to get over its politically correct fantasies and halt Muslim immigration, which equals a time bomb. In fact, many time bombs. The terrorist learn from their mistakes and sooner or latter they’ll most likely succeed while the sell out politicians will stupidly remind everyone that only a “tiny minority” of Muslims are extremists. The obvious fact is that the more Muslims the more extremists in our midst. These terrorists should all be hanged.
For Islamic jihad, Britain has allowed itself to become the most dangerous country in the world to the Western World. They owe the West a real clean up act.
And still looking for what the Jews are doing, except trying to survive.
Posted by: rational
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Some of them anyway..
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James Martel : You made me laugh to the floor with that one.
Witch inspired me into this vision: Picture a Muslim with a mini missile up his arse taking off for Allah’s whorehouse. Hi Hi Hi! Allahu Akbar! Alleluia! Tora! Tora! sarc/on...
According to the latest reports 7 of them made martyrdom videos but they have still pleaded not guilty. Perhaps like the girl at Heathrow they were just lyrical jihads?
interestinconundrum
Great link it needs its own thread.
FM
"For Islamic jihad, Britain has allowed itself to become the most dangerous country in the world to the Western World."
Correct! Even the BBC broadcast an interview with one of the swine* who planned to blow up Strasbourg Christmas Market who said Britain’s open boarders and lack of ID cards made it the best base for them.
* This is personal, my nephews school went to Strasbourg market that year.
There goes that evil UK and Peter Wright QC, again linking Islam to violence. You're going to get a fatwa Islamophobe!
"Old guys tinkering in their garages may just save the world, or at least blow up the garage...it always has been like that, and always will..."
Well, Duh Swami, it could be worse. You could be an old guy with a garage band. ; )
Tang as a component of fossil fuel is a better use than for what it was originally intended. That stuff tastes gross!
The accused are Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27, Waheed Zaman, 23, Arafat Waheed Khan, 26, all from Walthamstow, East London, Ibrahim Savant, 27, from Stoke Newington, North London, Mohammed Gulzar, 26, from Barking, East London, Assad Sarwar, 27, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Tanvir Hussain, 27, from Leyton, East London and Umar Islam, 29, from Plaistow, East London.
Ibrahim Savant ...
Well, this proves it. Not all savants are geniuses.
Regarding the possibility of explosive anal retention, we should not mock the idea too much. Regular JW readers may recall at least two reports of what could have been dummy runs, one involving a mobile phone (presumably quite a small one), and the other an object which might have been intended to resemble a small explosive device.
Surgical implantation might also be attempted (I believe that was a plot-line in an episode of "Alias" a few years ago ?), which could allow for the carriage of much larger devices.
One encouraging aspect of this report is the way that the group seems to have been so thoroughly, erm, penetrated by the investigators, but that will have pushed other jihadist teams to look at new methods and targets, which have yet to be detected.
The struggle continues...