Sharia Alert, with a whole raft of other proposals listed below. "Proposal to prosecute non-Muslims for khalwat," by Izatun Shari for The Star:
KUALA LUMPUR: A seminar on Syariah Law review wants non-Muslims found committing khalwat (close proximity) with Muslims to also be held liable.
This was among the proposals made at the two-day seminar organised by the Islamic Institute of Understanding Malaysia (Ikim) and the Syariah Judiciary Department Malaysia.
Syariah Court of Appeal Judge Datuk Mohd Asri Abdullah said the seminar had proposed that non-Muslims committing khalwat with Muslims should also be sentenced accordingly, but in the civil courts.
“We don’t have the jurisdiction to sentence non-Muslims committing khalwat with Muslims,” he told reporters after closing the seminar on behalf of department director-general Datuk Ibrahim Lembut at Ikim here today.
And by golly, we should be minding their business, too!
“The Muslims can be sentenced in Syariah courts, and the non-Muslim partners can probably be sentenced in the civil courts, to be fair to both parties.”
He said the proposal, contained in a draft resolution at the seminar, would be forwarded to the Attorney-General’s Chambers.
“It is up to the Attorney-General’s Chambers or the relevant authorities to decide how to create such a law,” he said.
However, he declined to elaborate when the proposal would be forwarded to the Government.
Another proposal is to impose heftier penalties – of up to four times the current penalties – on Muslims caught for khalwat, prostitution, consuming alcohol and involvement in gambling activities.
Mohd Asri said Ikim and the department were proposing that the Syariah Courts (Criminal Jurisdiction) Act 1965 (Amendment) 1984 be amended to impose stiffer penalties of RM1,000 fine, or five years’ jail or 12 strokes of the rotan for Syariah Lower Courts and RM20,000 fine, or 10 years’ jail or 24 strokes of rotan for Syariah High Courts.
Current limits are a maximum of three years’ jail, or RM5,000 fine, or up to six lashes or any combination of these, and different states provide different penalties for these offences.
“This has not been reviewed since 1984. It has been more than 20 years,” said Mohd Asri.
There was also a proposal for Syariah judges to enforce whipping for these offences.
Another proposal calls for the establishment of a rehabilitation centre for those convicted of offences related to morals and faith such as prostitution and effeminate men, and enforcement of Section 54 of the Syariah Criminal Offences Act (Act 559) to set up such centres.
The seminar also agreed to a suggestion that a new provision be created for apostates.
Big brother is really all encompassing! Watching over every act, every thought, emotion, and behavior nothing escapes the will of Allah and the sharia police. Not even half way across the globe!
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Notice Sharia is all about "Muslims" v/s "Non-Muslims", leaving a "Non-Muslim" vulnerable. Blatant discrimination! Yet, secular laws have no provision to combat this blatant discrimination. Muslims benefit in both islamic AND secular world. No wonder they are hostile to the gullible (even stupid) "Non-muslims".
How quickly Malaysia is being dragged back into the Stone Age.
Khalwat - close proximity. What exactly does that mean? Being friends with a non-muslim? Being a business partner with a non-muslim? Having sex with a non-muslim (except in the case of rape of uncovered meat, of course)? All of the above?
Shariah is about 1 thing, Law that only upholds islam view in law.
This is never an equal situation between a muslim and a non muslim, although its stated to be fair, but the fairness context also states that a non muslim could not be treated as equal as muslim, therefore a muslim always prevail.
The proposal to shariah functional besides the civil system started in the early 80s and later when it got support from the legal echelons (whom are later replaced with muslims), they force shariah to superceed the supreme court.
Cases that uses the supreme court for shariah cases are dismissed. Non muslims have no where to go when justice is concerned.
The politicians promised that shariah will only cover muslims for the muslim laws. But does this ring a bell? yes Taqiya.
Once strong, they will dominate non-muslims as well.
“The Muslims can be sentenced in Syariah courts, and the non-Muslim partners can probably be sentenced in the civil courts, to be fair to both parties.”
"Fair to all and no fair to anyone."
- Firesign Theatre
"Syariah Court of Appeal Judge Datuk Mohd Asri Abdullah said the seminar had proposed that non-Muslims committing khalwat with Muslims should also be sentenced accordingly, but in the civil courts...The Muslims can be sentenced in Syariah courts, and the non-Muslim partners can probably be sentenced in the civil courts, to be fair to both parties.”
Is there NO depth to which they will stoop to collect Jizyah?!?
Nevermind. I already know the answer to that one.
Islamic revival is sweeping Dar al-Islam, and Muslim governments are bidding to become even more Islamic, to implement Sharia in the fullness of its inananity and outright insanity. Let them; let them all mount al-Buraq and TAKE A FLYING LEAP BACKWARDS. See how much it will do for them, stuck in a sterile, static, regressive past--sans USAID, I hope.
From: http://www.orientexpat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5878 (Post #2)
"Khalwat is when non-muhrim (Muhrim = married or relative) persons of opposite gender are in isolation (behind closed doors) together. It is a legal offence and MUSLIMS (including foreigners) can be charged in the Malaysian Syariah court. Might be punishable up to 6 months in prison.
Non-Muslims cannot be charged in the Malaysian Syariah court, but these religious department officers are allowed to disturb you and to check, if you are really not a Muslim...at 11PM in your hotel room... "
the lefties being the brain-dead ones that they are will just ignore this and continue to appease muslims in our own countries. Why? Because they don't have a clue as to what is happening and instead of finding out by reading sites such as this one, will read their left wing sites that tell them to hate sites like this one, or listen to muslims who tell them to hate sites like this one.
Yeah, and they call us the mindless robots, or sheeple.
OT: demonstrator burns Quran in Iran
I agree with the author - the demonstrators would have done well to have a higher standard of demands, like abolishing Islam as the state religion (might as well do it if you are burning a Quran), full freedom of expression, end to their death penalty (given the way it's done in Iran), et al, rather than an adherence to a largely worthless UN document. Nonetheless, those guys can teach the long haired, maggot infested dhimmis here what courage really is.
“The Muslims can be sentenced in Syariah courts, and the non-Muslim partners can probably be sentenced in the civil courts, to be fair to both parties.”
Aha! I knew it. Two wrongs do make a right! Wait 'till my Mother hears about this - she'll be stunned. She always insisted that two wrongs do NOT make a right.
This is what the future holds folks, unless Islam is vigorously resisted. You can get arrested for being near a Muslim, what a bunch of BS. This crap from one of the more "enlightened Islamic countries" too.
This is the best that can be expected for a future where Islam wins. Likely however the Taliban types would oppose these moderates, kill them all, and impose Taliban syle life for all human beings.
I wish people would just look at the evidence in these stories and other stories to understand that Islam is a totalitarian system of thinking that is as bad or worse than Marxism.
The future of humanity is at stake here folks!
This is what is in store for the rest of us. First there will be enforcement of Islamic codes among Mohammedans, no mixing of the sexes, Muslim women in burkahs, sharia courts, and all the rest. Then there will be efforts to force all the Islamic rules on everybody because it will be insulting to Mohammedans to see regular people acting normally. I call it Creeping Islamism. In some places it's Galloping Islamism.