Question: Will authorities move this zealously against the "minority of Muslims" who practice polygamy in the United States, as acknowledged by CAIR's Ibrahim Hooper?
I doubt it.
Question: Will authorities move this zealously against the "minority of Muslims" who practice polygamy in the United States, as acknowledged by CAIR's Ibrahim Hooper?
I doubt it.
I find it interesting that when we seen polygamy in our own culture we see how it is demeaning to women (and young women in particular) but we don't have the guts to say the same about Muslim polygamy.
Why aren't there lots of polyandry sects, where multiple men marry one woman? I'd like to join one of those.
They didn't move against the sect's 'polygamy' they moved against underage sex and abuse complaints. Of course these are also rife in the Islamic community with forced marriages and abuse of all kinds but NO ONE INCLUDING MUSLIMS care. Including 'feminists'.
Mormon polygamy gets high profile treatment, while there is nary a word about Muslim polygamy. Equality before the law would dictate that polygamy would be treated in an even handed manner without regard to whatever religious justification might be involved. Is it? Or is this yet another instance of ganging up on an unpopular American group while giving Muslim polygamists a pass?
Polygamy is certainly practiced here. If you have a voluble, easygoing, trusting Somali cabdriver, and you show sympathy, and even wistfully wish that you "could have more than one wife" you might be surprised what you may hear in response. The laughing recollecting of how someone or his "friend" manages, under the eyes of the unwatchful INS, smuggle in wives, and even get them on the American dole, is an experience not to be missed. It is, in fact, an experience to be carefully noted, as is the name of your unintentinal informant.
But does the government, does the FBI, offer rewards for those who discover polygamists, as it well might? No. Since those practicing it are likely to be Muslims, and likely to be true Believers, why should not the government help those who can locate such people, and get the goods on them not for their inward thoughts, but for their practice of polygamy, a visible sign of what those thoughts might be.
For some unknown reason ABC Atlanta had the word Baptist on the screen behind the reporter as she talked about this??
A couple notes from an LDS perspective here:
- Please bear in mind that we excommunicated these folks a long time ago. They are not 'Mormon' in the sense of belonging to the LDS church.
- In a discussion of radical Islam, a friend of mine suggested that Warren Jeffs was the Mormon equivalent of Osama Bin Laden. He then suggested that Muslim Leaders don't address the issues of Radical Islam for the same reason we don't talk about Warren Jeff's and such - we don't see them as being a part of us and therefore don't conclude that we have any responsibility in the matter.
I reminded him that we have in our scriptures that we read every day, an official deceleration from Wilford Woodruff, the 4th president and prophet of the LDS church ending the practice of polygamy. I reminded him that we actively excommunicate any that preach or encourage the practice. I'm pretty sure you'd be hard pressed to walk into an LDS church and find someone preaching the Warren Jeff's version of things.
I also noted that since the arrest of Warren Jeff's, we have had a fairly open discussion of the legal, political, social and theological ramifications of his group, something that does not happen in the Middle East. In short, if Muslim leaders would act as forthrightly, openly, and directly against the wahabi/Jihadist teachers, as we have against Warren Jeffs, we would all have much less of a problem.
As poetcomic1 says, the reason for action in this case is the complaints of forced marriage and other abuse, not the polygamy per se. Here in British Columbia, where the same sect has a branch, the government has hesitated to take any action because getting evidence of abuse is very hard and there are concerns that the laws against polygamy, where the evidence is much easier to obtain, may violate the religious freedom provisions of Constitution.
US Law forbidding polygamy should be enforced whether they are Muslims or Mormons or anyone else
Selective prosecution of non-Muslim polygamists while ignoring Muslim polygamists could be challenged under "equal protection" grounds
I'm also for the 1 wife, several husbands idea. Wouldn't mind being high maintenance!
Imagine what they would if this Warren Jeffs type gets caught for speeding to visit another wife!
You must first qualify by fetching four beers simultaneously while not losing your balance walking over 3-inch high potato chip crumbs.
Please read "Against the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakhauer. It is about the polygamist community in Colorado City.
As I read this book, it became clear to me how this cult is very similar to Islam. Read it yourself.
it is a must to advertise more what is going on inside Mosques here in the States.
we will be suprised to see how many Muslims have a second wife or a third here with the blessing of the Imam.
and how many more here are married to American women and have a fiancee waiting sometimes for years in the middle east.and when the men get their citizenship. they divorce and bring over the new bride.
Two things here. Barak Obama's father married in Kenya and then married Barak's mom. Maybe a muta marriage to him as he left her and went off to Harvard. She had to get the divorce. He then married again. Two wives, twice.
I also saw a lovely article last month in the New York Post called Small Joys about a African immigrant who's children had all died in an apartment fire and now two of his 3 wives had restarted the family by giving birth in the same hopital on consecutive days. How sweet. So I called the N.Y attorney generals office and asked them what they were going to do about it. Wasn't polygamy against the law in N.Y. They were clueless.
The IRS should really look into some of the tax returns from Paterson, NJ and Dearborn, MI for EIC credits and child tax credits. The muslim claims one wife and spouse with dependents. Sometimes these dependents are young women who are actually wives. Or a multiple wife claims the Earned Income tax credit, filing head of household, and also gets the child tax credit for her offspring.
This is how it started in AZ, CO, UT, NV, and ID. The person sits across from you and gives a verbal statement and this is considered by the IRS to be "due diligence."
The child tax credit is $1,000 per child and an individual can get over $4,000 also in EIC. Do the math, citizens. We are paying for this. Again, we are fighting a war over there so we don't have to fight one over here...huh? The war is on right in your neighborhood.
Maybe they are just flying under the radar, but a little newsflash for everyone... The men of the Somali community here in Columbus, OH... you know, the men with all the "sisters and cousins"?
Those aren't sisters and cousins.
on second thought... they might ALSO be cousins...