Yet another hearts-and-minds initiative comes to naught. An update on this story. "Released cleric's son-in-law rules out truce," from AP (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):
Peshawar: A fugitive militant leader yesterday welcomed the release of a prominent pro-Taliban cleric but vowed to continue an armed struggle to press for Islamic law in the country's northwest.The cleric, Sufi Mohammad, was released on Monday after six years in jail.
The North West Frontier Province (NWFP) government said Mohammad's group had signed a pact renouncing violence in return for permission to pursue a peaceful campaign for Islamic law.
So in other words, they didn't ask him to renounce Sharia supremacism. They just asked him to go about it nicely.
It was the first major step by the new government to talk peace with militants and break with US-backed President Pervez Musharraf's policy of military force.However, Muslim Khan, a spokesman for Mohammad's son-in-law Maulana Fazlullah, whose supporters battled security forces for control of the northwest's Swat Valley last year, said fighters allied with the wanted militant would not cease their battle.
"We welcome the release of Sufi Mohammad, but we will only lay down arms when the government would enforce Sharia," Khan said....
"We are fighting for the enforcement of Islam. If the government enforces Sharia today, we will stop our struggle," he said. "But we want to see practical steps from the government, and not just the promises."
"We are fighting for the enforcement of Islam." Uh oh, another Misunderstander. No doubt Khan will be hearing from the EU, the OIC, Ali Eteraz and Ibrahim Hooper forthwith.
Pakistain has supported fanatics trying to do the same thing in India and Afganistan. Pakistan has no stomic to resist these fools. Pakisanise are as poor as hell and all they can think of is Islamic empire building.
Yes, there are a lot of pests in the Swat Valley. Where's the fly swatter?
Once again, another example of appeasement gone awry; it's never enough.
What if they gave a religion and noone believed it?
This is the West greatest Ally to fight terrorism. The irony is that this country carved out of India was created for the Muslims because they felt they would be marginalized in a Hindu country. But reality is that the Elite Muslims were too arrogant to lose control and be not the leaders but ordinary citizens in a Kaffir country. This country is a nightmare for the west and India. It is and was created to continue the 1400 year jihad and world domination of the world by Islam and Sharia. It has not stopped its attempt to destroy India with a continuous support of Jihad. This is just another chapter of the Islamic onslaught that has not stopped since its inception in the barren, harsh and desolate desert of Saudi Arabia. The West is still getting a taste of this onslaught even though it subsided for a while. But it is back and will continue to show its ugly face. No matter how much our PC and Multicultural leader want to whitewash it it is there. The unfortunate thing is that we still pour billions of aid to this country in the foolish and naive hopes that it will change or do our bidding. Sometimes I feel like giving good hard kick on the butts of our dumb politicians and really make see the reality of the continued support of this Islamic country, that supports terrorists, has terrorists training camps, has supported Western Muslim terrorists. It is a dictatorship, has gross human rights violations and has nuclear weapons. This is what the Al Quaida want. The Nukes is what they want. Pakistan is the best place to get them. They failed to get them, but that is the goal.
I hope they planted a gps locator chip in the old farts arse...just to see where he goes..national security issues and such..don't cha know..
savsiv
you are Indian, I gather?
Thank you for posting here.
The more the various 'fronts' of the counter-jihad worldwide link up with one another, sharing their bitter history and their ideas, the better.
Please do keep us informed of all developments on the Indian front.
I speak as an Australian - a citizen of a fellow 'Commonwealth' country, who sees and appreciates the huge potential of India and the beauty and diversity of its many indigenous NON-ISLAMIC cultures and languages. I have met many lovely [non-Muslim] Indian people; one of my very best friends is a classic Eurasian girl, born in Darjeeling to a Bengali Brahmin father and Scots mother.
I would like nothing better than to see my country get its head clear of the fog and recognise that we are all in this together, all Infidels defending ourselves against a Jihadi foe that envies and despises us and wishes to either destroy or steal everything good and beautiful that we have collectively created. I long to see Australia doing its level best to roll back the spiritual and physical onslaught both on our own territory and on yours. I'd like to see NONE of Australia's official military and economic aid & counsel going into Muslim dominated Pakistan or Indonesia - but rather, into India, to help you guys save yourselves.
Islam - a deeply misogynistic culture of rape and repression - blasphemes every day against the shakhti, the spiritual feminine life force; it fears it, hates it, smothers it, and vampire-like, abuses and devours it. Perhaps it is no coincidence that the Third Jihad began with a renewed massive assault upon Mother India (during Partition) and against Mother Zion (after the resurrection of Israel, the Jewish state).
I fear that in the end Islam, refusing to honour the feminine as shakhti or - to use Christian and Jewish language, as Hagia Sophia [Holy Wisdom], as Shekhinah or ruach Adonai [ruach, 'breath/ spirit' is a feminine noun, I think?] - will be compelled to experience it only as Kali - destruction.
Build a Fence around these People and then make sure they don't get out.
Note to all people reading here for the first time:
To get a grip on what is happening in Pakistan, you could do worse than obtain V S Naipaul's two books - Among the Believers, and Beyond Belief - and read the chapters, in both, which deal with Pakistan. He is an excellent writer. You will enjoy the books, but you will also be horrified at what Islamic revolutionaries do to themselves and their homelands.
Naipaul did not have the detailed knowledge of Islamic texts and history which Mr Spencer has, but he used his intelligence and his common sense and powers of observation, whilst visiting, and observing, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Malaysia, first in the 1970s, then some 20/ 30 years later.
His discussion of what Pakistanis were doing to themselves, as they tried to create the 'perfect' Islamic society - an utterly futile and indeed socially and politically suicidal process, as witness the sentiments of the jihadi quoted in the article Mr Spencer has posted for our edification - is devastating. I commend particularly the chapter in 'Among the Believers' which is entitled "The Disorder of the Law".
Money quote: "the Pakistanis had taken the rule of law, which they had inherited from the British, and replaced it with nothing". (Read it aloud: pause for three breaths after 'with' and allow the word NOTHING to receive full emphasis). When I hear 'nothing' in Naipaul's sentence, there, I think of 'the Nothing' in the film 'The Never-Ending Story' - a black roiling chaos eating up the world. THAT 'Nothing', that annihilation of the world, is sharia...
One definition of insanity is to make the same mistake over and over, hoping it will work next time. That is what 'more sharia' and 'more Islam' amount to.
We are fighting for the end-of-the-line of Islam.
We welcome the release of Sufi Mohammad, but we will only lay down arms when the government would enforce Sharia," Khan said....
"We are fighting for the enforcement of Islam
so what parts of these words have nothing to do with islam and terrorisim? or islam and jihad? maybe our state department can explain.
"We are fighting for the enforcement of Islam."
But you'll never get it quite right, because you aren't Arabs. They and they alone are the best and most capable of peoples -and the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic, not Urdu. So, too bad for you that you have the wrong genes and speak the wrong language, but don't be disconsolate. At least you aren't one of those filthy kufars that Allah has created specifically to be tormented for all eternity in hell in order to demonstrate his All Powerfulness!
I'm all for thwarting Islam.
Stop it in its track by buying and driving a scooter or motorcycle.
I purchased one of these a while back and am getting 72mpg.
Not bad for the commute back/forth to work.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/AN400K8
Sorry Robert.
It is really not my intention to endorse Suzuki -- I'm not a dealer or anything like that -- but I feel that knocking them where the soft jihad knocks us (financially) might be the route to take to combat this ideology nightmare known as Islam.
Please delete this comment if you feel it necessary.
Yes, we will stop our struggles and lay waste to all that oppose us, or hinder us, or flaunt us, or deny us, or break our precious sharia, or blah, blah, blah! It's like a broken record, and for those who remember, that can be very irritating sound.
Summer is nigh.. I am fighting for the enforcement of proper body hygiene in New York yellow taxi cabs...
a very irritating sound.
Dang it! Jimmy Carter was this close to reaching a peaceful resolution to the global jihad.
A little OT, but I think I should share it:
Jordan yesterday started a trial against several Danish newspaper editors for insulting islam and the prophet when printing the cartoons of mohammed.
http://jp.dk/arkiv/?id=1324647&eceExpr=jordan&eceArchive=o
I haven't been able to find an article in Engllish, so here it is in Danish.
I'll try and find time to translate it later today.
"... enforcement of Islam"
...this is what is happening when Muslims demand and get footbaths, prayer time at places of employment, in schools, in the store, at the airports, train stations, and bus stations, when they start taking over employee breakrooms and turning them into mini mosques, when then build mosques and begin broadcasting the calls from the minarets, when they refuse to allow their women to be photographed sans veil/burkas for ID cards and Driver licenses, when they , forceably wash their feet in public bathroom sinks, when they are allowed to teach the Qur'an in colleges and lower level schools, when they cause and create panic by their abnormal behavior in public places such as airport terminals, train stations , even in libraries, when they perform those horrendous honor killings, when they demand (and sometimes get) the institution of Sharia law....
Islamic enforcement of Islam , you are having it heaped upon you and you refuse to stop it...
time to tighten the borders and time to think deporting those Muslims who are convicted of crimes in your country... those who misbehave do not deserve to stay...
The USA wanted excess to the mountains,between Pakistan and Afghanistan, to hunt for Bin Laden, but Musharaf did not wanted to give permission.
Wonder, if this is an opportunity to go in Pakistan. Would US get help from India??? Very scary, US, Pakistan and India, three nuclear powers.
Friends.. if we don't buy their oil, someone else will.. That strategy is far too late in the game.
If the SOWdis would run out of oil tomorrow we all know that our governments would be running had over heels looking to support them and "feed the hungry" and all that crap.
These islamofascists are too lazy to wipe their own a**es.. so our Carter-clones will surely run in to do it for them.. all in the name of "humanity".
In the mind of these guilty white liberals only white people - and maybe Asians [real Asians I mean] - should be expected to work for themselves. And get taxed in the process of doing so. How else could "WE" take care of the "needy".. those millions of moslem "men" who are above working and have their women cater to them and have the "infidels" take care of them because "infidels" are just that dumb!
Yup, our very own liberals are enslaving us to pay taxes to feed the enemy!!
There is only one Hugh Fitzgerald and I have no hope of ever being as erudite as he. But One Thing I know is.. my logic is just as compelling as his.. if in a totally different way.
We all are here to raise our voice in the increasingly clangorous polyphonous chorus singing out against the butchers sent by Satan himself to enslave us... to rob us of our uniqueness and our common humanity.
That humanity which all you and I and Hugh and Robert and everyone Hindu Buddhist Christian and Jew.. Agnostic and Atheist too.. who yearns to breathe free are fighting for..
islam since song you hate we sing to thee..
DON'T TREAD ON **WE**
Pakisanise are as poor as hell and all they can think of is Islamic empire building.
Posted by: Ruebacca
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No shyte. Cuz they know that countless NGOs from our Western countries will be running in and lobbying our people on their behlf to "save these gentle people from starvation and utter devastation".
We have to LET THEM BE and FEND FOR THEMSELVES so that these children will learn to survive on their own for a while.
This whole "rebellious Phase" and I-am-going-to-hold-my-breath-until-you-do-whatever-I-want-you-to-do thing is getting rather tiresome..
For everyone.. to inspire us all:
[Keep up the good fight lads - and lassies]
And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of Fire!
I Will not cease from mental fight;
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
dumbledoresarmy :
Thanks for the kind words and yes we must be united to confront and challenge and defeat this Islamic ideology. All the Non Muslims of the world the free peoples of the world who love life, who enjoy the myriad of cultures, who support and cherish, liberty freedom, equality and equal justice under the law. People who are open minded to the world and universe we live in. Who enjoy critical thinking and ask questions about the world, confront and fight evil and threats to our liberties we all are united because we value human life and dignity to all forms of life.