Iranian customs official: Neckties "contradict the nature of Iranian culture," so imports must end

I read somewhere ages ago that ties are against islam because the knotted tie resembles a cross. Don't see the resemblance myself but then I'm only a kafir.

Well, if modesty if their goal, then wearing a tie better achieves that end. Look at Kookmad without a tie, and his boyfriend who is wearing a tie. Wearing a tie shows less skin, thus making a man appear more "modest", while not wearing a tie reveals MORE skin. Hmmm.

Backwards and stupid - just more idiotic rules coming from Islame-o-stan.

Getting rid of neckties? Count me in.

"Notably, volunteers for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard walk the streets with scissors in order to cut ties should they encounter them."

"Big Business" (1929)
Starring Stan Laurel & Oliver Hardy

Synopsis:
Stan and Ollie are selling Christmas trees door-to-door ...

When they come to Jimmy Finlayson's house, he tells them that he doesn't want a tree, and he closes the door -- on a tree branch. They ring the bell again, and Finlayson says that he still doesn't want a tree. He closes the door again, and Stan's coat is stuck in it. So they ring the bell again. Soon, tempers begin to flare, and the orgy of destruction starts small. Finlayson chops their tree in half and CUTS OLLIE'S TIE WITH SCISSORS. Laurel and Hardy rip out Finlayson's phone and the doorbell.

By the end of the movie, Finlayson has destroyed our boys' trees and their car. They have smashed his furniture, dug up his yard, and cut down all of his landscaping, as a crowd forms to watch the spectacle.

***

(Almost sounds like the play-by-play from a MoToon protest, doesn't it?)

Greetings:

This particular Muslim thumb in the West's eye has been going on pretty much since Dhimmi Carter failed to blot out the Iranian sun with our bombers in 1979.

Champ,

Very good observation and correlation. If Immadinnerjacket really wants to shun the "evil" western look, then I would ask him:

Why are you wearing a typical western business suit (sans necktie)? And a watch? Bad boy, bad!!

If one would/could only gather all the proclamations from these idiots in the past year alone, compile them into a play, I think we'd all have a new winner on Broadway for the next 10 years.

Maybe they're getting excited....hmm.. I wonder who is wears the pants in that picture above??

Necktie as a phallic symbol
Much has been written on the significance of dress and the language of clothes. Alison Lurie, fashion historian, writes that "before we are near enough to talk, our clothes announce our sex, age, social class, and possible information (or misinformation) as to occupation, personality, opinions, sexual desires and mood." Like any other language, we must choose our words carefully, remembering that meaning depends on the context of the place and circumstances. What message does the necktie convey?

For over two thousand years - since at least the Quinn dynasty - the necktie (or cravat) has been the most widely used, and the most multicultural of all phallic symbols. The necktie has always been, for a certain class, a celebrated piece of male equipment.

http://www.centurionministry.org/body/necktie.htm

Hmm, actually NOT:

"contradict the nature of Iranian culture,"

silk strings go back a long way in the Islamic tradition. It was the preferred way by the eunuchs to dispatch the Sultans rivals (or sometimes the ruler himself) with silk ties, by strangulation.

Why so squeamish, Ahmad-in-jihad? Afraid it might happen to you?

When properly used, a tie can also double as a noose. Wouldn't that at least interest them?

But if the Iranians ban ties, what will they use to hang their gays?

But if the Iranians ban ties, what will they use to hang their gays?

"since at least the Quinn dynasty..."
-- from a posting just above

Ah yes, I remember the story of those boyos from County Cork, who made their way to Old Cathay at least a thousand years before Marco Polo, and despite their wild ways, or possibly because of them, managed to start the first Sino-Hibernian dynasty. One of their last descendants, I've discovered, was an entrepreneurial fellow who, in the time of the last Manchu Boy Emperor, Pu Yi, started the Tsingtao Beer Factory. I'm not surprised. Are you?

Oh, a double post AND someone beat me to the punchline. :)

How sweet, they're holding hands.

The new official uniform of the mullahcracy:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/frankbeecostume_2003_58985516

Don't those idiots know that those apparently cheap, badly fitting suits are also a western influence? I think their purity would be more real if they went back to those bathrobe looking outfits.

Joe Schmoe USA, a necktie a phallic symbol? Bull Hockey! What's a bow tie symbolic of?

Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble?

I can't wait until Thug-in-Chief decides to sport the Miami Vice look of the '80s TV show.

Today, no tie. Tomorrow, no socks?

Cars, airplanes, technology, public education...there's so much that contradicts "iranian" culture.

Joe Schmoe USA, a necktie a phallic symbol? Bull Hockey! What's a bow tie symbolic of?
Posted by: Pelayo

Umm… The female version of a phallic symbol?

Just a guess...

These guys aint got nothing on Anwar Sadat who was murdered by Islamic militants who viewed his overtures to Israel as treasonous to Islam.

Yet few understood the brilliant cunning of the first Arab leader to make use of a necktie to show his hate for Isreal

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/05/winning-respect.html

Besides Laural and Hardy, remember when Woody Allen was still funny?

In the movie "Bananas" Woody plays a convert to a Latin American revolunatary cause. When they overthrow the government, the revolution leader, now the new country leader dictates that everyone will change their underwear every hour, and will wear their underwear on the outside so it can be checked. Really funny then, totally bizzarr now.

OTOH, is little monkee boy admitting that "clothes make the (wo)man" and an effective approach is to ban certain clothing that does not fit into the culture? Like veils and head-scraves?

Hey, Boneshack! No kidding, the suit and dress shirt are definitely a western inspired 'look' for men, so what's the big deal if a tie is added. Suppose the purists should just go back to wearing traditional linens and head scarfs if they want to remain consistent. What hypocrites; and what a silly thing to take issue with.

"Yet few understood the brilliant cunning of the first Arab leader to make use of a necktie to show his hate for Isreal

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/05/winning-respect.html
-- from a posting above

The picture of Saint Sadat wearing the swastika-themed tie on his trip to Jerusalem did not go unnoticed by everyone. Prof. Paul Eidelberg long ago mentioned that tie in his pamphlet about Sadat and the whole farce leading up to and including the Camp David Accords that some still myopically consider as a great "victory" for peace. It was not. It was a great, and imposed (and self-imposed) "victory" for the vanquished Egyptians, who managed to have the victor, Israel, put into the position of suing for peace. It was the most bizarre, and disturbing, spectacle -- bizaare, and disturbing not least because so few recognized it as such.

"Notably, volunteers for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard walk the streets with scissors in order to cut ties should they encounter them."

Here are a couple of videos available online here and here which demonstrate how the Iranian modesty police enforced the Islamic dress code for women. The women put up quite a struggle against the enforcers.

I have some difficulty imagining the Iranian Revolutionary Guard approaching full grown males with scissors. I have no doubt it can take place, but I just don't see men who brave a necktie putting up any less of a struggle than these women in the videos I saw.

And in UK the cultural uniform for the kuffars is enforced …

The Madani High School in Leicester will be required by law to accept 10 per cent of its 600 pupils from a non-Muslim background.
…
Female students at a new Islamic school will be made to wear head scarves regardless of their religion, it was revealed yesterday.
…
But girls who are not Muslim will still have to abide by a rule insisting all female pupils cover their heads as part of the uniform.
…
Education spokesman Hussein Suleman, who is also a member of the school's temporary governing body, said: 'We have to find a balance.

'Governors have to take into account the fact that 10 per cent can be of a non-Muslim background and use discretion where appropriate.
…

Paisley is a Persian invention.

You know, you just can't make this sort of lunacy up.

It's time for the Thug-In-Chief to check into the nice white hotel with the padded rooms.

the hangmans noose is also called a necktie
does this mean irans going to outlaw hanging?

The devil doesn't wear Prada, he wears a bad suit without a tie.

Actually now what are we going to use to string him up with?

Mystical Time Traveller

Supposing the opportunity presented - I am sure there are a great many Persian women, who have suffered the depredations of the 'modesty police', and who have been grossly abused, raped and subjected to other forms of sexual torture, in Iranian jails, who would be only too happy to supply a used thong, or thongs, sufficient to make the noose with which to despatch him.

Or a selection of discarded headscarves, those ugly black things which are so much hated by secular-minded Persian women such as Marjane Satrapi, and by Christian and other non-Muslim women who are forced to wear them, could be used to make the rope.

He has presided over, and done nothing to ameliorate, a hideous repression of women.

Let his punishment, should it become possible, fit the crime.

Seriously: I am, in general, opposed to the death penalty. But I believe the Israelis were right to execute Eichmann. This man is only too eager to continue where Eichmann left off; and who knows how many deaths, of his fellow Persians, he has authorized on the flimsiest of pretexts? The hangings and stonings of vulnerable women - quite probably, falsely accused in the first place - have happened on *his* watch.

Mucking forons.

Mahmoud is wearing a watch? Sporting a leisure suit? Even has a Western styled haircut? What's wrong with him? Shouldn't he be wearing the garb and head dress of his Arab conquerors? Is he wearing Western styled shoes? For shame! He would look more at home in a large Arabic bathrobe in sandals with turban on his head and large scimitar sword at his side, ready to ride off into the desert on his camel to raid another caravan or besiege some hapless village. And they want the atomic bomb? Ha ha ha ha!!! LOL What primitives.

If ties were a phallic symbol, all muslims would be required to wear them. In a way they are phallic symbols, in that the basic symbol is a straight line. But the symbolism probably ends there.

I don't own a tie, can't stand them, but some actually are works of art.
In the old days at the mental institution where male attendants wore white coats, shirts and black ties, straight and bow, they used 'breakaway' ties.
Wearing a regular tie could get you strangled by some obstreperous deranged person. Police who wear ties as part of their uniform wear breakaways as well. You don't see too many police in ties anymore, usually they are wearing flack jackets and helmets.

Spencer is a tie man. I bet he has a rack of them.
I would suggest getting a few breakaways for public appearances where hostiles may be in attendance. Nothing quite like being dragged off the stage by your neck-tie...

Now I understand what it is that makes Mahmoud look like a bum. No necktie!

My daily experience of men is not one where ties and suits are common. In a factory environment, even the managerial staff leans toward casual dress.

There's always been something about Iran's prez that made me think he looked scruffy. Now I realize what it is. If he'd take off the jacket, he'd look less like he just stepped out of a thrift shop.

I wonder if the "no necktie" look is his compromise between a Western look and a man-dress.

He'd look better in the man-dress. The lack of a tie with a business suit just doesn't work, dahling!

Now I realize what it is. If he'd take off the jacket, he'd look less like he just stepped out of a thrift shop.
Abscedere

Thats an astute observation and a great line.

I don't wear ties because I was strangled in a past life and can't tolerate anything around my neck.
I may have been hung, I probably had it coming.
I bet I can get a jacket just like Beasty Boy's
at the local thrift...

These ridiculous counter-revolutionary idiots are even more savage than the Savak/Shah's special forces who enforced the reverse.

Iran is a confused nation with a terrible identity disorder. One need only look to the fact that their language Farsi/Parsi is different from their adopted "Arian - Iranian" identity and also differs from their no preferred ancient "Persian" identity.

Iranians are a little bit of everything. Are they NAZI? Sure! Are they communist? Oh yes! Are they Arabs (albeit Arabized Persians)? Yes but we call it a chador fellas. Are they "Indo-European" (a language, not really an ethnic group as the Persians would have you beleive)? A staggering dozen or so words are easily recognizable to Indo-Europeans. Are they Asian? No they are not you stupid American. (So don't bother with the Saffavid discussion with its unpleasant topic of the Turkmen/Mongols out. Thanks.) And are they Western? Well they do live in the West and display disgusting overconsumption there: Beverly Hills that is. Oh and the British influence over Iran was just immense!!! It can be felt in all aspects of their lives. NOT.

Ironically, one of the most basic items of western clothing comes from ancient Persians - trousers.

This is not, however, a suggestion that we all get rid of our trousers in any sort of counter-protest. Not everyone looks good in a skirt.

Toilet paper is "western". Will it be next?

MP

Dude, a proper muslim uses stones. (easy joke - 'cause they don't have any................drum roll, rimshot!)

Wow! Check out this guy, phallic symbols printed right on his tie!
What was he thinking?

http://www.worldjewishnewsagency.org/spencer-photo.jpg

I find that thrift shop reference insulting. Two of my best and most expensive suits (if I had bought them new) came from a thrift shop. After a trip to a tailor and dry cleaners, a $400 or $600 three piece suit costs $75. The tailor charged more than I paid for it at Goodwill.

Word of warning, if you are superstitious, the least worn and newest looking clothes probably belonged to someone who died recently.

What about those neck ties that are used to hang people in the public square? Will they outlaw those, too?

Hugh:

Why are you so genious? Do you have a website of your own that might detail how you have come to be so well versed in everything?

Big fan here.

Word of warning, if you are superstitious, the least worn and newest looking clothes probably belonged to someone who died recently.
Posted by: Pelayo

There is a thrift store in Northern California called 'Dead peoples stuff'. Only living people shop there...

If neckties are so "un-Iranian", why not just go whole hog - if you'll pardon the expression - and go back to knee-length tunics, baggy pants, and sandals? You'll look a lot more dapper than that little dork in the opened-necked shirt and the K-Mart jacket.

"And in UK the cultural uniform for the kuffars is enforced …

The Madani High School in Leicester will be required by law to accept 10 per cent of its 600 pupils from a non-Muslim background.
Female students at a new Islamic school will be made to wear head scarves regardless of their religion, it was revealed yesterday.
…
But girls who are not Muslim will still have to abide by a rule insisting all female pupils cover their heads as part of the uniform.
…
Education spokesman Hussein Suleman, who is also a member of the school's temporary governing body, said: 'We have to find a balance.

'Governors have to take into account the fact that 10 per cent can be of a non-Muslim background and use discretion where appropriate."
…
Posted by: Engelbrekt

Where is this 10 percent non-Muslim student body going to come from? What non-Muslim parents in their right minds would send their children, particularly their daughters, to such a school?

Utter UK lunacy.

Hey, they can come to Germany and help the local women celebrate "Weiberfastnacht", which is the special "women's Mardi Gras" celebrated on Thursday the second day after Karneval kickoff.

Men usually wear cheap ties that day because women in the Catholic regions of Germany have the right to sever ties that day.. the even bring scissors for the job.

Not a good day for the Lorena Bobbit-scared.. maybe those German women will cut these muftis down to size.. who knows :-)

Pelayo,

I apologize for any offense. I've bought some pretty good stuff at thrift stores, myself. If you're into "shabby chique" there's no better place to look for furniture.

Maybe what I should have said was that Mahmoud looks like he just walked out of a fitting room. I've never been suit shopping with a man, but I'm guessing you guys don't take off and put on your tie every time you look at the fit of a new suit.

Friends?

I wonder if prime minister wackjob uses a computer.