No Muslims protested this Quran shooting (click on the pic for details)
No, he didn't catch a stray bullet. Anyway, look: "Husseini called on the UN to formulate a plan that would prevent the desecration of the religion's holy articles." I.e., a plan that would outlaw freedom of speech and freedom of conscience.
"Iranian FM: US soldiers' attitude towards Koran 'hurtful,'" by Dudi Cohen for Ynet News, May 21 (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Mohammad-Ali Husseini condemned US soldiers' "hurtful" attitude towards the Koran, following the discovery of a bullet-ridden Koran book at one of the American shooting ranges in Iraq.Husseini called on the UN to formulate a plan that would prevent the desecration of the religion's holy articles.
Oh, and by the way, yes: "Qur'an" shooting. Yesterday evening I was asked why I favored the "PC" spelling Qur'an over the "English" Koran. Qur'an is simply a more accurate rendering than Koran. The word in Arabic is قرآن, and the letter ﻕ (qaf) that begins the word, which is usually rendered nowadays with a q, is quite a distinct sound from that of the letter ﻙ (kaf), which is usually rendered with a k. And the apostrophe is also appropriate given the fact that there is a hamza glottal stop at that point -- which I pronounce.
PC? Honestly, I don't know how some of these things get started. This is simply a more accurate way to render the Arabic, and it is no more PC than was the earlier change in English from "The Alcoran" (which literally means "The The Qur'an") to "The Koran."
In any case, this is making a mountain out of a molehill. After I finish Stealth Jihad, which will be out this November from Regnery Publishing, I will begin work on a book that will be out next year from Regnery: The Infidel's Guide to the Koran. Yes, Koran -- they want it that way. And that's just fine with me.
Blowing up Buddhas in Afghanistan was not correct then?
Get your mommy to kiss the boo-boo. There. All better now?
If they don't shut up, I'm going to put a .223 through one myself.
Well, I'm hurt by 9/11, which the Koran is responsible for.
I couldn't care less about your utterly misguided "hurt," Iranian Barbarian.
"hurt"? Religious sensibilities eh? And how many churches were burnt just this week alone in Dar al-Islam?
Based on this interesting distinction it appears Arabic is read & written like Hebrew - right to left.
Out of curiosity, are Arabic texts also like Hebrew texts - starting from what we consider to be the back cover (spine on left when closed) ending on the front (spine on right)?
justamomof4:
Yes.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Husseini called on the UN to formulate a plan that would prevent the desecration of the religion's holy articles.
Actually they only have one holy article, the Quran, and it's 'holiness' is debatable. Of course muslims claim everything to do with Islam is holy, even dirt. That's why they have more 'holy' places, than
archeological sites.
Only severe punishments will stop desecrations.
So lets start with the Saudi airport, and arrest those officials who routinely shred Bibles. Then mass arrests of the muslim mobs who destroy Christian and Jewish 'Holy places', and attack and kill their clergymen. Lets get some crime and punishment going for 'those' desecrations...I won't hold my breath..
Koran, Qur'an - I say it's spinach, and I say...
I never spell Koran with the apostrophe and Q, since I can never remember where, in the middle of an unlikely collection of letters, to place that darn "glottal stop."
However, I have no trouble with T'Pol, for some reason. That name seems more "logical." Either that, or I must have more subliminal motivation to seek perfection in that case.
That reminds me, Robert, have you seen Pamela, lately?
Does it seem as if it's Friday already? Oh, well.
Hamdi Quran's act of derring-do, for which he flashes his little victory sign to his Arab admirers, was to murder, in a sneak attack and in cold blood, Rehavam Ze'evi, while Ze'evi was in a hotel corridor. Had Ze'evi, who from his earliest days, as a mere stripling, had fought fearlessly against the Arabs in every war, had any warning, even though he was in his 70s, had he had anything at all to use as a weapon -- somehow one imagines he would have had the better of Hamdi Quran, or at least have inflicted damage on him. But Quran attacked Ze'evi when he had nothing to defend himself with.
Look at that self-satisfied face. Think of the mind behind that face, and all the inculcated hate, the hysteria that have gone into the making of that mind, and of so many similar minds (they're all over the "West Bank" and Gaza, and cannot un-think, cannot be un-inculcated, in the ways they think), reduced to a level of cruelty and semi-sentient stupidity reflected in the murder of which Quran is so proud.
How exactly is the phrase "holy article" defined?
I think that the exalted status of the quran, koran, or whatever one calls the nafarious and offensive document, is unjustly exaggerated.
In the age of Western relativism it is curious to see the "change agents" of all things relative, scurry about to lift the koran above the heads of all other competiting ideologies.
I wonder if one day they will convert to islam or die with the smug self-satisfaction that they "made a difference" as they are slowly beheaded to the shouts of 'allah akbar?'
The above Mohammedan convicted murderer's last name is "Quran?" How utterly and complete appropriate.
With a little luck they will take it in front of the UN. Then talk radio will get all over it. The next thing will be major media will get hold of it. At that point the ACLU will wind up defending people who "desecrate" the bible as a free speech and will find themselves either sliding downhill or having the hill fall on them. Either way, an appropriate outcome.
Concerned Citizen:
I prefer a .22/250 myself as a varmit gun. Big boom, little bitty slug, big damage.
Excuse me. "How utterly and completely appropriate."
People, you know who the villian is in the new Indiana Jones movie? The Soviets. LOL! Right. I'm not going to see it.
Why is that muslim in the photo wearing a gold ring. Doesn't he know that gold rings are haram?
And old koran's were not 'Holy Koran', they were 'Noble Koran'. Isn't calling a book "holy" idolotry? Almost like they worship the book itself, rather than the words. Like they worship Mohammad and idolize him despite the prohibition on idolalitry.
The religion of the cresent moon worshippers. If they call Christians cross worshippers because they have a cross on each church, then they are cresent moon worshippers, since they have a cresent on each mosque they build.
Will the EU turn their new rules around to persecute the islam followers for hurting the feelings of all other religions?
"Of course muslims claim everything to do with Islam is holy, even dirt. That's why they have more 'holy' places, than archeological sites."
duh_swami,
Not everything. Otherwise Meccan historical places would still exist. If everything and anything connected with Mohammed (his very name is holy - no puppets allowed!) was holy, would the Wahhabists have destroyed many of the historical sites of Mecca, not just the pre-Islamic ones?
Based on the Wahhabists' logic, how can dirt be holy? It's part of the material world and could be idolized. How can al Aqsa be holy? It was built by human beings.
And then there's the koran. Written by humans, published by humans, sold by humans, purchased by humans, not all of them Muslim. The message may be holy but the pieces of paper that it's on? They came from trees or plants (did the Muslims ever use papyrus?).
Do these idiots know that the U.N does not write our laws?
Forgive the pun, Borg . . .but in this particular instance - see title:
the word 'holy'/holey though mis-spelled , is appropriate. ;p
P.S. Much appreciated Mr. Spencer ;D
Some fodder for all you PC Multiculuralists out there who like to play word games in an effort to detract from the peccancy that is Islam:
My 1946 edition of the Qur'an, A. Yusuf Ali translation, spells it "Qur'ān" (note the dash above the "a").
I just thought you could use that little nugget to call into question the erudition of anyone who speaks out against the violence contained therein.
You can thank me later.
Cheers
PMK...your right about all that holiness, I never said it made any sense...in the larger scope, how can anything created by Allah, not be holy? The closer you look at this the screwier it gets. I was going to mention the Saudi's bulldozing Mohammad's birth spot, but forgot. I don't think the Shia are ready to bull doze the holy mosque at Jamkaran, not at least till Mahdi comes out of it. The Saudi's are not in charge of that project. If they were I'm sure they would send dozers. They may send dozers anyway.
Beware Wahhabi's driving bulldozers. So much for 'those Holy spots'...The Quran itself, as a paper book, can't be holy unless dirt is. Occultly it is constructed of the four elements, Air, erratic concepts contained, Fire, the wand, or pen. Water, the ink, and the paper, Earth, or dirt. As I loosely paraphrase Aleister Crowley. There is nothing in that that deserves worshipping, nothing 'Holy' about it, target practice should be just fine...Besides I was just being sarcastic, about 'holy spots', because Islam seems to have so many of them... :) have a good day...
I generally try to substitute the letter 'Q' for the letter 'K' while writing about things Islamic. So I never use 'Koran', and note that Kandahar had in the past been variably spelt as 'Qandahar'.
Incidentally, anybody know why the 'u' after 'Q' rule is glossed over with 'Qatar'? And why isn't Kuwait Quwait?
More on the Q, or Any choose K? controvery, or what may be called the yousaytomaytoandIsaytomahto wars:
"I am His Highness's dog at Q/Pray tell me, Sir, whose dog are you?"
duh_swami,
I got the sarcasm. I just don't get the Wahhabists. With their conniptions about a book, how do they justify destroying their own history, not even the pre-Islamic history (which would make sense, at least from their point of view) but the history of their own founder.
The Shia have their monuments and they love them. But they're a sliver of Islam.
Here I'm not being sarcastic:
How do they venerate the Temple Mount while destroying everything else? It would seem the al Aqsa mosque is due for the wrecking ball. Maybe it will go the way of the dinosaur if the Muslims ever achieve their wish and wipe out Israel. Then it won't be needed as a political symbol anymore and so it can be leveled.
For now, I just shake my head.
"And why isn't Kuwait Quwait?"
-- from a posting above
The Kuwaiti-owned service stations throughout Western Europe are thinly disguised under the name "Q-8"
Kuwait is spelled with a K because the Arabic K is used in its name. And Qatar is spelled with a Q because the Arabic Q is used in its name.
There would be no point in adding a u after the Q in Qatar since English speakers would pronounce it as kwatar rather than katar, as they do now, and kwatar is not very close to how it is actually pronounced.
I can't say anything about Kandahar/Qandahar since it's in Afghanistan, which isn't an Arabic-speaking country.
As for Q-8, I'm guessing that Kuwait uses that since in English it is pronounced kyouwait, which is close to the way we Americans say Kuwait. (And for all I know, the Brits pronounce Kuwait as kyouwait.) If they used K-8, it would get pronounced kay-yait, which is too far in pronunciation for anyone to guess that it referred to Kuwait.
Borg,
Muslims do consider the Qur'an divine. They generally refer to it as "uncreated" -- meaning they believe it never had to be created because it has existed eternally, in some spiritual form, like God.
To them, shooting a physical Qur'an is shooting God in some sense, or perhaps shooting God's clothing. They think that's blasphemy.
I think the deification of a book and of words spoken by a human being is blasphemy.