British commander in Afghanistan: Taliban "on brink of defeat"

The only fact Obama identified was that Pakistan is not going after the Taliban, and perhaps a few good bombs on the Pak side will show them how to do the job.

It's not enough to "defeat" the Taliban. It must be destroyed. It must be totally eliminated. As long as Mullah Omar and other Taliban leaders remain at large the Taliban, like al Qaeda, cannot be defeated. As long as the tribal areas of Pakistan and the adjoining areas of Afghanistan are allowed to harbor terrorists, the Taliban and al Qaeda will survive. They may be in a diminished state but their message cannot be discredited as long as they are allowed to operate and publicize their message. Every tape that is put out on al Jazeera only strengthens them. They are seen as underdogs battling the mighty West. Everyone loves the underdog.

"The tide is clearly ebbing not flowing for them."

Aaah, the perpetual ebb and flow of Islam. They may be experiencing a temporal ebb in Afghanistan, as Robert has pointed out, also happened in 2003, only to return in full flow.

Dar al-Islam as a whole is in full flow and will only recede to ebb through external coersion for Islam does not recognize the carrot, but only the stick.

The war against the Taleban and al-Qaeda are ineffective, as Robert alluded to, without identifying, analyzing and most importantly understanding the underlying force behind these groups which is Islamic supremacisism through jihad.

Winning battles is nice, but the ranks of the "radical Islamists" are easily repleneished, but we cannot expect to win a war against an as of yet undefined enemy.

More delusion.

Refreshing to see the traditional tried and tested way of winning a war - that is by killing and defeating your enemy.

Let them, the Taliban (Belefonte's favourite group) adapt to the ideology of defeat and accomodation any which way. And let them lie through their teeth about it any which way, but first defeat them until they are beaten.

It is not enough to defeat the ideology of islam in our own minds, though one must see the wisdom of pushing for Sharia law being repealed.

Nowsagood time.

the site of jihade watch will have no future because our economies are booming , and peoples are tired of war in iraq afganistan... and there will be peace i think in future , muslims are focusing on economic development and industry to bring back a great civilisation , we wante to be the example of world as a civilisation , the prophet said : islam will reach every house in world ) , our love mohamed pbh , that teached us love , that gave wisdom , gave us every detail of how to live in this life , gave us every solutions for every problems ,... , there are thousands of books about prophet saying , how to live , how to eat , how to have bath , how to sleep , how deal with peoples , how praye , even when you date your wife this is a good work ( deed) god will reward you you of it : said our loved prophet , .. he teached us by deatails how to make our lives for god ! , narrated our lady aisha :( a day the prophet pbh entred my room , ... and just when he started kissing me ( dating ) , sudenly he asked me to allow him to praye the this night even i wanted to be near him (continuou dating him ) because he was the best thing in my life ! , he then started praying and crying all the night , repeating for all night , the god saying : the creation of universe and earth and night and day are a signs for best intelegent peoples that ... ) , . this is mohamed that teached us how to to praye 8 or 6 hours in the night and cry , that teached us how to love , how to love god ! , how to stand all night talking to your love , for your god , how fast 3 days each week as he did , how to patience for your love , for your god , this is our love mohamed that teached us ! , gave us heart peace , for your knowledg , the prophet prayed his nights standing longs hours until he became ill sick of his legs , for 20 years ! , this is the best human that teached me to praye all night and maked my heart cry while people are sleeping or drinking beer or busy with sex ! , this is mohamed that teached me , i never drink or listen music or smoke cegarette , never have a girl freind until marriage , my heart is full of love , god love ! that a teacher a great prophet teached me of it , therfore the peoples follow every deatails of mohamed life , mohamed style of wearing , mohamed clothes styles , mohamed eating style , mohamed sleeping styles , mohamed talking styles , mohamed walking style , mohamed prefred meal ,.... there are thousands of books about mohamed saying , and even when i wante to wash my hand or my head hair i should first look for mohamed style to do it !

Posted by: my_love_mohamed at June 3, 2008 9:39 AM

As satire, that was priceless, but you can't expect anyone to take you seriously, I hope.

Can you?

"The true test of civilization is, not the census, nor the size of the cities, nor the crops, but the kind of man that the country turns out."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

To the spellbound poster above:

There are many well-known quotes out there about civilisation and what it is. Do you have a personal favourite?

We seem to have a real beauty here after a long time. Request to moderators ; Please don't ban him, for some time at least. Chap has latent potentialities.

civilisation that make people live paradise of islam in this earth , and live in hearafter in paradise also , for you awake , i tell you can t understand me , you can t feel me .

awake,
I guess the answer is YES. :)

I love Muhammad, too:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/04/funny-side-of-islam-muhammad-and-hadith.html

The Funny Side of Islam: Muhammad and the Hadith

Allah’s Apostle said, “Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation:— “Wouldn’t it have been sufficient to burn a single ant? (that bit you)

For P'thans, Waziris and other tribal folks living on the Afghani-Pakistran border any distinction made between those two nations is an artificial construct. Even in the days of the Raj the North West Frontier Province was barely British. Often the rule of British law extended only 100 yards on either side of the British-build roads and in the towns. A former British officer of Ghurkas named John Masters wrote about the Frontier in his autobiography, "Bugles and a Tiger" It is quite instructive. The small unit tactics he described are still of utility today to infantrymen charged with fighting the Taliban.

scientific miracle of quran , scientific evidance and quran http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Not in Pakistan.

From the Mohammedan troll above

narrated our lady aisha :( a day the prophet pbh entred my room , ... and just when he started kissing me ( dating ) , sudenly he asked me to allow him to praye the this night even i wanted to be near him (continuou dating him ) because he was the best thing in my life !

the prophet prayed his nights standing longs hours until he became ill sick of his legs , for 20 years !

therfore the peoples follow every deatails of mohamed life , mohamed style of wearing , mohamed clothes styles , mohamed eating style , mohamed sleeping styles , mohamed talking styles , mohamed walking style , mohamed prefred meal ,....

my_love_mohamed states: "....to bring back a great civilisation , we wante to be the example of world as a civilisation...."

Great civilization? Example? Are you kidding! What kind of "example" do you think that Muhammad & Islam has shown the world thus far, other than to show us how evil and twisted it is through it's many egregious acts of violence upon innocents - and this is what your hope is for the world? God help us with thoughtful people like you looking out for us. Lord have mercy!

I am so glad that you wrote Jihad Watch, because this gives us all an inside look into the wrongheaded & twisted thinking, and hopeless direction, Zombots like you want to take us. No thank you!!

IP - I'm too afraid to learn that I've been wiping my fanny the wrong way all these years to even want to know how to do it right. Please refrain from such inquiries. LOL!!!

(I posted this on the Deobandis thread):

my_love_mohamed,

That's too bad you are such a follower of a man. In your entire post you don't mention Allah! It sounds like you worship a man, which would make you an idolator. I think Allah might not like that.

Since you follow Mohamed so closely, I'm surprised you forgot:

-Mohamed killing styles

-Mohamed raping styles

-Mohamed slaver styles

-Mohamed raiding styles

-Mohamed pillaging styles

-Mohamed convenient revelation styles

I mean, do you seriously only ride camels around, and sleep in tents, and kill everyone who disagrees with you? What exactly did Mohamed say about the internet in his prophesies? You probably shouldn't be on here!

scientific miracle of quran , scientific evidance andquran , as a proof for infidels http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

How about some proof against the idea that the Qu'ran has scientific miracles:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/index.htm

Just a couple of the scientific blunders in the Qu'ran (I know we're OT here):

The Qur’an teaches the following:

The earth is flat, spread out like a carpet and pegged flat by mountains

The sun has a defined path through the day, then sets in a muddy/murky spring and goes to Allah’s throne.

The sun then rises at a specific spot

Except for five "retrograde stars" (planets), the stars are hung like lamps.

Mohammed taught early Muslims this as a literal truth, not just a metaphor or simile.

scientific miracle of ko ran , scientific evidance and koran , as a proof for infidels http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links , see the proofs by photos and judge yourself http://www.answering-christianity.com/skin_day_from_night_miracle.htm

mo foe , you will never believe even if you see allah him self ! , just because your heart is sick
- earth in koran some time mean land and some time mean glob , spreading land or carpet is just for meaning of land
-sun set in moddy is just a general meaning , like we used to say sun set in sea ...
this is few answers of what u said, the others are lies or just i havn t a good english level to give u answers

The Qur'an is a miracle alright - as it defies all logic.

MLM,

My man, "...this is few answers of what u said, the others are lies or just i havn t a good english level to give u answers."

All of these contradictions surely can not be lies, when indeed they can be refuted with logic, a concept your poor prophet did not possess.

As for your English, I think we can pick out the basics of what your trying to say to us. You can keep trying to "teach" us that your false god (Muhammed) is so wonderful, but you're wasting your time.

I don't need the rantings of psycho megalomaniac telling me how to:

Sleep, sh*t, p*ss, eat, walk, talk, bath, love, date, oh, I give up!

MLM,

We are completely OT here, but let's reverse what you said:

You won't believe there's anything wrong with the Qu'ran, even if I point out line by line where the problems are, because your heart is sick.

It's very easy to say they're all just lies, but then, who's lying--wouldn't it be Mohamad?

You didn't address the stars being hung like lamps, and remember, Mohamad taught that these concepts are to be taken literally.

What about the one about man's semen originating in the backbone? Or about how a fly has poison on one wing, and the antidote on the other.?

Oh, and I'm still surprised you're able to get on the internet; something not invented in Mohamad's day, or even foretold (I'll bet). I mean, which hand should hold the mouse? Which internet company did Mohamad approve--was it DSL, and is Mohamad a Mac or PC guy?

Finally, since we're at it, and you follow everything Mohamad did;

-Did you marry any 6-year olds today?
-Did you slaughter an entire tribe today?
-Did you take the women captive?
-Did you rape them because they're your property?
-Are you gonna have me assassinated because I'm critical of you?
-Did you drink any camel piss today?

If not, why not?

I just hope this British commander is right. Yet, that hole-in-the-map called Afghanistan always has a way of confounding the best-meaning people who come to civilize it or save its womenfolk. It seems that the Pathans love nothing better than a bloody internal feud--it even beats a boy's peach-shaped bottom, I understand.