"White boy, 12, suspected of being Islamic extremist recruit after he showed beheading videos to classmates," from Daily Mail, June 25:
A 12-year-old white schoolboy is among 120 people being dealt with by police in a new project combating Islamic-inspired violent extremism, it was revealed today.
Why is it necessary to indicate that he’s white? If he was black or Muslim—or better, both—would the headline have dared to indicate as much?
The child, who has only been identified by the initials BC, was reported by his school in West Yorkshire after he was found circulating video clips of terrorists beheading Westerners.Sick films were distributed to classmates on their mobile phones, prompting a teacher to march the boy to the local police station.
Police revealed the child arrived in Britain as an asylum seeker in July 2005, and at the age of eight allegedly assisted a nine-year-old and a 12-year-old boy in the forced rape of his sister, although he was never prosecuted.
Where exactly did this “white boy” arrive from? And had he been prosecuted for his role in this rape then, or at least taught a lesson, maybe today he wouldn’t be distributing “sick videos.”
West Yorkshire Chief Constable Sir Norman Bettison revealed: 'The white child that we are working with has been downloading Jihadist beheading videos and circulating them around school.'That was bad enough, but he also has an unnatural interest in guns and weapons. He spoke openly of his wish to be a sniper and spoke of his curiosity of what it would be like to kill someone.'
Ah, there’s the connection: jihad and violence (“guns,” “weapons,” and a “curiosity for killing”). Clearly, the white boy has—like many of his race—misinterpreted the “true,” “peaceful” meaning of “jihad.”
Sir Norman described BC as an 'angelic looking boy' and a police mugshot shown to delegates depicted a fair-haired child so short that his face was barely in the frame of the camera.
Newsflash: physiognomy is a defunct science.
'He is at risk of being a violent young man and a threat to society,' the chief constable said.'He is not a Muslim. He is not driven by ideology - he is too young to spell the word. But he is being influenced and intoxicated by the imagery and appeal of Jihadist and other internet violence.'
Could it be because his suppressed sense of “masculinity”—his innate need to be “mischievous,” as only boys can—has few other outlets in the increasingly neutered and emasculated culture of Western Europe?
Sir Norman also warned the Association of Chief Police Officers' annual conference in Liverpool that Islamic extremism was spreading like a 'virus' and urged every parent - particularly Muslims - to address the issue with their children.'The al Qaida brand of violent extremism continues to spread like a virus infecting young minds,' he said.
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Sir Norman said of BC: 'His schoolteacher pitched up at a local police station with him, because they were at their wits' end as to what to do with him. We are working with him (BC), and his father and his school.'
The chief constable said the pilot project, which is being operated by West Yorkshire, the Metropolitan and Lancashire forces, had been running for nine months.
The number of suspects so far uncovered was 'higher than expected', he added.
Already 124 people have been referred to the police and other agencies for attention by schools, community leaders, mosques and others.
'It is a means of bridging between the community and the police and identifying people who might be attracted to, or vulnerable to, being radicalised,' said Sir Norman. [...]
But why would non-Muslims be in danger of succumbing to Islamic—jihadi beheadings—“radicalization” in the first place?
'Throwing the book at them in terms of the Prevention of Terrorism Act would be complete overkill,' the chief constable said.'We are not talking about criminal actions. We are talking about vulnerable kids.'
The 12-year-old boy came from a single parent, working class family with siblings living elsewhere, said the chief constable. [...]
A lot more truly “vulnerable” kids—homeless, orphaned, sexually-abused, destitute, poverty-stricken, name it—are not in the habit of gleefully circulating video clips of jihadist beheadings. (Not to mention the fact that they probably can’t afford mobile phones in the first place.)
Two other cases highlighted by the senior policeman were Muslim youths, known only as NH and YH, who were both 15 when they were reported by their communities because they were showing extremist and racist tendencies.
Since most of the indigenous population of the UK is white and non-Muslim, “showing extremist and racist tendencies” are code for “they hate infidels.”
"Police revealed the child arrived in Britain as an asylum seeker in July 2005,"
...hmmmm Checzyna, Kosovo?....
Is this another case of a jihadi exclaiming "I am a jihadi, I am doing this in the name of Allah", only to have the authorities pronounce that he is not a jihadi, and that his religion has nothing to do with his behavior?
Except when it comes to blaming "whites".
BING! BING! BING! We have a winner...
Pulsar, come on down and collect your prize!
The whole tone and wording of this article is just depressing.
My British friends: The constabulary is quietly, stealthily selling you out to your new zombie overlords.
Better take action now, if not yesterday.
Britain along with most western counties have lost their spiritual under pinnings. Right is wrong or means nothing in a relativistic way.
I am sure if the rape story is half true this lad is lost and is the result of an amoral culture. Islam appeals to the base instincts of man. This condition is perfect for the cult of Islam.
To the indigenous people of Britain...pack your bags and come to us in the USA. You can make it here and you will be among friends. Don't worry about the island, we can help you get it back later..if you want it.
Never in my wildest dreams could I foresee this situation developing.
He is not driven by ideology - he is too young to spell the word.
One has nothing to do with the other. You don't have to know the word "ideology" or how to spell it in order to be driven by a set of beliefs.
Will they try to separate this from jihad and equate this boy to someone who saw a slasher movie or decided to try a stunt he saw someone do on film?
I believe it was G.K.Chesterton, remarking on the decline of Christianity in the U.K., who said something along the lines of: "When people stop believing in Christ, the problem is not that they believe in nothing, but that they believe in anything." Since his time, we've seen how right he was, having gone thru one cock-eyed belief after another: fascism, marxism, maoism, the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, all sorts of gurus and ashrams, feminism, the wiccans, channellers, ancient astronauts, Gaia, crystal power, afro-centrism, environmentalism, acid rain, political correctness, etc. The current favorite, and the most sinister of the bunch by far, is Islamophilia, which is currently the rage in the universities, the press, and much of government throughout the West.
As for me, I'll take the Guru Maharaj Ji -- the 13-year-old Perfect Master -- over Mohammed any day of the week.
No Muslim but maybe a young psychopath - there's plenty of them and I wish liberal softhearts would stop calling these little monsters things like "vulnerable kids". I think neuroscientists can often detect psychopaths with certain brain scans if allowed (google it). I suspect Islamic jihad ideology is attractive to psychopaths.
"Sir Norman said of BC: 'His schoolteacher pitched up at a local police station with him, because they were at their wits' end as to what to do with him. We are working with him (BC), and his father and his school.'"
How about a good spanking for a start. Then throw the book at him and his family. Throw them out of the country would be helpful.
My comment is completely unrelated, but I need to post it.
Mr. Spencer, I just finished "Religion of Peace" this afternoon. I must say I am astonished at the breadth of your knowledge, and at the extreme and meticulous research in the pages of this masterpiece.
As a young college student, it gives me hope and solace to know that hope is not lost in our fight with Islamist thought and supremacy.
I am still reeling from the completely ass-kicking you give to leftist, and some conservative thought.
Robert, as long as the blood flows through your veins, and air is in your lungs, never stop what you are doing. I will never stop trying to spread your message. Thank you for doing everything you have done. You, and your readers are all invaluable to civilization itself.
My comment is completely unrelated, but I need to post it.
Mr. Spencer, I just finished "Religion of Peace" this afternoon. I must say I am astonished at the breadth of your knowledge, and at the extreme and meticulous research in the pages of this masterpiece.
As a young college student, it gives me hope and solace to know that hope is not lost in our fight with Islamist thought and supremacy.
I am still reeling from the completely ass-kicking you give to leftist, and some conservative thought.
Robert, as long as the blood flows through your veins, and air is in your lungs, never stop what you are doing. I will never stop trying to spread your message. Thank you for doing everything you have done. You, and your readers are all invaluable to civilization itself.
ehhhh, sorry for the double post. oops
Too bad Britain (and so much else of the West) is losing knowledge and appreciation of its Judeo-Christian roots (and I write this as a complete religious skeptic). This opens up the Sceptered Isle to infiltration by osmosis of malevolent Islamic nonsense. This massively confused boy is a case in point (and what are his chances of living a fulfilled, insightful life?) in sustaining the validity of the hypothesis that a society is most in danger, not when it is faced with assault by a conventional external enemy, bad as that is, but rather when it loses touch with its core beliefs, here specifically the Judeo-Christian and ancient Hellenic conceptions about the worth and dignity of the individual (so absent in mind-numbed Islam). What a perilous time it is for the West, since it regrettably to date lacks the requisite conviction (and knowledge) to repulse a lethal assault on its exsitence while, at the same time, the enemies of true freedom are filled with passionate conviction.
Too bad Britain (and so much else of the West) is losing knowledge and appreciation of its Judeo-Christian roots (and I write this as a complete religious skeptic). This opens up the Sceptered Isle to infiltration by osmosis of malevolent Islamic nonsense. This massively confused boy is a case in point (and what are his chances of living a fulfilled, insightful life?) in sustaining the validity of the hypothesis that a society is most in danger, not when it is faced with assault by a conventional external enemy, bad as that is, but rather when it loses touch with its core beliefs, here specifically the Judeo-Christian and ancient Hellenic conceptions about the worth and dignity of the individual (so absent in mind-numbed Islam). What a perilous time it is for the West, since it regrettably to date lacks the requisite conviction (and knowledge) to repulse a lethal assault on its existence while, at the same time, the enemies of true freedom are filled with passionate conviction.
Conor,
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No, no, no, you guys just don't get it!
See Roger Cohen's piece at
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/25/opinion/edcohen.php
Islam is all about "hospitality and generosity and wisdom"!
That's because Cohen felt these "wonders" "from Beirut to Baghdad to Cairo" and these noble, humanitarian traits, he says: "well from Islam".... Of course! How could we have missed it!
Clearly the kid in this story could not have got his murderous intent from this "great world religion" (Cohen again, in full PC mode).
Go to www.iht.com/passages and post your comments on Cohen's egregious piece of apologia...
This young lad just needs to listen to the anti-suicide bombing song at the "Canadians Against Suicide Bombing" site. http://www.canasb.ca/
This is not a hoax ... Only in Canada You Say!
The ideology of Islam, is like a cancer to our society.
There's a diff between Muslims and non-specific psychopaths? Heh, who knew?
Anyway, I too was thinking of how he might just be some kid displaying young boy tendencies toward gore and violence. But that whole "rape" thing worries me. We may have a Dahmer on our hands here.
RG
I have a feeling that the police had better prepare to deal with a lot of kids because the imitaters of uswa-hasana, al-insan, al-kamil are not like us Infidels at all when it comes to how children should be brought up. They make their kids behead animals at age 5 onwards (there are exceptions, but from my experience are rare). I don't know how many of the JWers can actually behead and gut an animal (they make them start skinning and gutting shortly afterwards). This desensitization is accompanied by the study of the koran, "sons of apes and pigs" "idolators" "cut off their hands and feet", stuff like that. As a result, by the time these kids are teenagers, they are complete homicidal maniacs. Beheading is the basic requirement of being a muslim, and the sooner we realize that these kids are complete psychopaths the better for us.
There were several sites on qurbani on the net. New JWers can go through these to understand the importance of beheading in islam.
PEOPLE OF GENTLE DISPOSITION PLEASE AVOID VISITING THESE SITES
http://www.qurbanionline.com/
http://www.islamawareness.net/Eid/azha.html
http://www.markazulmaarif.org/onlinereading/teachingofislam/part13.htm
"Why is it necessary to indicate that he’s white?"
I think they may have been trying to point out that the white boy doesn't fit the profile of what we have come to know of jihadists, which are overwhelmingly Arab or black. Regardless, the fact that they had to state his race in order to make this point shows that racial profiling of Arabs isn't such a bad idea after all, and calling them Arabs and not "Asians" is more accurate. Even the liberal media knows--but won't admit--that the majority of jihadists are Arabs.
"Too bad Britain (and so much else of the West) is losing knowledge and appreciation of its Judeo-Christian roots," Well this past week Mr.NOBAMA made the statement that the US is not a "Christian country" anymore..l guess he wants you all to be looney liberals like in Europe. l do believe that the US is our last hope to save Western
culture because you will still fight for your freedoms, and keep your guns!
Not a jihadi. From the sound of it, just another little sociopath in the making, who already gets a kick out of watching sick videos and raping young girls. And at only 12 years old. I suspect there's no hope for this kid.
Sociopath... Jihadi... Very little difference, really.
But if someone is a sociopath, he would be drawn to Islam much more than to any other religion.
Most religions discourage sociopathic behavior. This is normally referred to as "teaching morals". So if a Christian or a Jew has sociopathic tendencies, his religion will teach him that it is wrong to act on them. He may chose to do it anyway, but he'll know what he's doing is wrong. This is normally referred to as "sin".
Islam, on the other hand, encourages sociopathic behavior. This is normally referred to as "Islam". Whether a Muslim has sociopathic tendencies or not, he is taught from birth that it is not wrong to act on them, rather it is wrong not to. If a Muslim chooses not to make war on unbelievers, his religion will tell him that he's in the wrong; not carrying out the jihad is a sin.
"'He is not a Muslim. He is not driven by ideology - he is too young to spell the word."
Neither could Mohammed, at a more advanced age.
From above: "When people stop believing in Christ, the problem is not that they believe in nothing, but that they believe in anything."
The problem is not just with Christ, but includes Christ.
The human mind is active. It cannot tolerate empty spaces, and will immediately fill a vacancy with something. Question everything, know everything is the quest of the mind. That's what we are doing here. If we were not doing this, we would be doing something else. Even sleep offers no relief because of dreaming. There are only two ways to shut off your internal dialog and movie machine, meditation, drugs. Drugs are the inferior method.
Other wise, the meaning of 'think good thought's', becomes clear. It is a wise thing to do, to replace negative thoughts with positive ones. False knowledge with real knowledge. Sublimation, the replacing of false knowledge with real knowledge, and negative thoughts with better ones,
but not submission. Never submit.
The word used three times in the above statement has to do with belief. Beliefs are changeable and fleeting, but understanding, has solid ground to stand on. 'In all your getting, get understanding'. 'O ye of little understanding'. Once you understand something, it is no longer a belief. I don't believe in Islam, but I understand it. I don't believe in Christ either, but I understand him. Understanding brings clarity, while belief brings confusions. Muslims are believers, that's why we can see their obvious confusions. They are not understanders.
This twelve year old boy, understands nothing, but believes a lot, and thus he acts. Other jihadi's believe and act similarly. Once a muslim gets even a little 'understanding' of Islam, their 'beliefs' are eroded, replaced with truth, and they become apostates...Islam does not encourage 'understanding'...
Sociopath? Let that kid hear someone refer to him as a sociopath and expect trouble from him for the rest of his life. Let the professionals think of him as a sociopath and I give fifty-fifty anything constructive will be accomplished later on.
What's my solution for people like him? Indoctrinate him to the likes of Payton and Mercedes. But there's little chance any professionals think to act in a concerted effort in this direction, for this kid or anyone labeled sociopathic, I suppose. So it does go ...
The Brits need to have a big inky stamp to mark his forhead "Return to Sender" via Heathrow.
R Spencer: "A lot more truly “vulnerable” kids—homeless, orphaned, sexually-abused, destitute, poverty-stricken, name it—are not in the habit of gleefully circulating video clips of jihadist beheadings. (Not to mention the fact that they probably can’t afford mobile phones in the first place.)"
Oho! Oh, yeah? Well, the vulnerable, poverty-stricken kids probably would distribute jihadi videos if they could afford...cellphones...which would mean...they weren't poverty...stricken.
Oh, you cunning Lizardoid! But you haven't defeated me yet! I'll be back! Schedule me in for before the 12th Imam comes.
Signed,
Prophet Geoff
He is probably from somewhere in the Balkans. Just another example that the entire asylum process needs to be redesigned. The current system is outdated and broken.
Meanwhile, I wonder if this family would qualify for asylum in the UK, or in any other western country?
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/06/26/iran-islam-is-what-muslims-do/#comment-67283
Sigh. So some kid running around showing how muslims violently sacrifice humans to their god is now labeled a sick white boy with a weird interest in guns who was never prosecuted for allegedly assisiting in the rape of his sister? That's right? Right?
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Uh, what about the actual muslims, actually chopping off heads of actual people? On film! Who is the sick f*** here? The muslim really chopping off someone's head or some kid showing the video?
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Please note how the actual, real violence committed by sick, twisted muslims, is deflected and we are asked to focus on some kid who hasn't been prosecuted for anything.
He is probably from somewhere in the Balkans. Just another example that the entire asylum process needs to be redesigned. The current system is outdated and broken.
Meanwhile, I wonder if this family would qualify for asylum in the UK, or in any other western country?
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/06/26/iran-islam-is-what-muslims-do/#comment-67283
"Newsflash: physiognomy is a defunct science."
Actually, when we threw out physiognomy, we threw out the baby with the bathwater. The baby is reasonable racialism; the bathwater is frank racism (which should be rejected). I agree with Madame Vengier's comment above. The fact that the West has thrown out physiognomy is part of the reason why we are in the pickle we are in now (bending over backwards to be "sensitive" and "respectful" of non-white non-Western cultures like Islam while bending over forwards to castigate our own white Western culture), and why we are suicidally ignoring the fact that, for practical safety purposes, we must institute a degree of racial profiling which would of course not be perfect but would reflect the complex but not impossibly systematizable racial, non-white complexion of most Muslims.
pulsar182
I definitely would agree with pulsar.
You have white Muslims from those regions - that are kind of radical. If a white woman is in an Islamic headscarf - nine times out of ten - the accent will be a foreign one.
Likely the child is either from the war zone in the Balkans - or the Russian region.
Some of the asylum kids have emotional difficulties - the child has got a screw loose - though the rape of his sister seems to be connected to Islam's virginity cult. But I think if you are a Muslim male - the idea would be to rape someone else's sister.
C'mon fella's, all this talk and nothing of practical import.
These two little jewels being cultivated inside the very fabric of modern American culture is the absolute best answer for what ails this kid, or any kids problems. There should be more Payton's and Mercedes' in the world. They could set any young man's head straight ... for a lifetime!
Who's kidding who? Be serious.
Conor Harrington wrote:
My comment is completely unrelated, but I need to post it.
Mr. Spencer, I just finished "Religion of Peace" this afternoon. I must say I am astonished at the breadth of your knowledge, and at the extreme and meticulous research in the pages of this masterpiece.
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Glad you've discovered Robert Spencer's writing. I agree: brave, clear and reasoned work.
I read a disturbing article a few days ago that ties in to both “He is not a Muslim….But he is being influenced and intoxicated by the imagery and appeal of Jihadist . . . violence” and "Religion of Peace: Why Christianity is and Islam Isn't".
The East Bay Express covers the story of an Oakland gangbanger and rapper going by the street name of "Pretty Black", who was murdered by rival gang members.
"Pretty Black's" real name was Ayoosa Matthew Odumuyiwa--with a name like that, he was almost certainly of African Christian background, although I don't know if he had a religious upbringing.
One of his raps was "Heaven for Gs" (G stands for "gangsta"):
"Is there a heaven for me? Is there a heaven for Gs? I see angels, nigga, Jesus walkin' with me . . . People say Pretty . . . A lotta niggas hatin' on you, They gonna get you"
If this vision of heaven doesn't seem very convincing to you, I don't think it seemed all that convincing to "Pretty Black", either. At the end of the rap, he describes himself begging God for forgiveness for his actions, all the while knowing that if anybody disses him, that he will be right back to his violent ways.
It sounds as though he robbed some rival gang members of drug money, and was killed in retaliation. What makes this different from any number of depressing drug killings, though, is the threatening message left on "Pretty's" site just hours before his killing, which read in part:
"Pretty Black robbed the wrong people in East Oakland and didn't know who he go we got something for u and your not going any where . . . next time you should of killed us there is not next time ALLAH AKBAR WE WILL C U ANYWHERE"
Now, I have absolutely no reason to thing that these particular thugs were actual Muslims, either mainstream Muslims or Black Muslims. As semi-literate as they are, though, clearly they realized how threatening "Allah Akbar" is, certainly it strikes fear into the heart of a hearer in a way that "Our Father, who art in heaven" never could.
Here's the link:
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/blogs/was_san_leandro_rapper_threatened_before_his_death_/Content?oid=749033
I suspect this kid has nothing to do with Islam, Jihad, etc. He's a walking, talking science-experiment to do with the type of permanant brain damage incurred by those feeding a severe morbid curiousity. I agree wholeheartedly with FM.
The ugly will show up in medical scans - period.
Young or not..excuse or not..he's a sick idiot that should not be let out among the public.
Something went awry and with people like this, they need to be under lock and key and watched. I see no redeeming value of someone who has gone this far..it's sad I agree and I wish it could be undone but to allow this type of thinking by this person to roam the streets is wrong...flat wrong to the general public.