Bedier looks on approvingly as Jassim Aldeen of the USF MSA (a Muslim Brotherhood group) speaks about the Mohamed/Megahed case -- Aldeen played the race card too
Ahmed Mohamed is the Florida former student who has agreed to plead guilty to aiding jihad terrorists: "Mohamed To Admit Terrorism Support," by Elaine Silvestrini for The Tampa Tribune, June 14:
TAMPA - A former University of South Florida student has agreed to plead guilty to a charge he provided support to terrorists when he posted an Internet video showing how to detonate a bomb with a remote-controlled toy, according to a plea agreement entered in the case Friday.
From the beginning of this case, when Mohamed and his driving buddy Youseff Megahed were arrested in Goose Creek, South Carolina, with what was alleged to be explosive material in the trunk of their car, Ahmed Bedier, then of CAIR, was right on the case. Bedier is the character who has passed up opportunities to condemn stoning and who has said that there was "nothing immoral" about being part of Palestinian Islamic Jihad until it was designated a terrorist group. In "2 Florida students charged in explosives scare face $800,000 bond," by Noah Haglund, Dave Munday, and Andy Paras in the Charleston Post and Courier, August 5, 2007, Bedier was acting as the spokesman for both men, and downplaying the charges:
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights organization for Muslims, said family members have told him they think the materials were leftover fireworks Megahed kept in his trunk since July 4.“Both of them are really naïve kids,” Bedier said.
In later stories Bedier played the race card and acted as an informal character witness for Mohamed as well as Megahed -- as in, for example, "Road trip, 'pipe bombs,' speeding, then arrests," by Abbie Vansickle in the St. Petersburg Times, August 7, 2007:
"Had they been two white kids, nobody would be asking those questions," said Ahmed Bedier, executive director of Tampa's chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. [...]Those accusations don't square with what Bedier heard from their family and friends.
Mohamed, of 2107 E Nedro Road, moved to Tampa in January to pursue a graduate degree in engineering after studying at a university in Egypt, according to USF officials. Bedier said that Mohamed graduated at the top of his class from a prestigious program in civil and environmental engineering and that he served as a research and teaching assistant at USF. [...]
Bedier said he had problems with the accusations.
"We're really concerned about the lack of evidence in this case," he said.
But last night I asked Bedier for comment on Mohamed's guilty plea, and he responded by referring me to the Elaine Silvestrini story from today's Tampa Trib, in which he acts as if he never heard of this Ahmed Mohamed fellow:
Local Muslim activist Ahmed Bedier, who has spoken in support of Megahed, stressed that he doesn't know Mohamed or the Mohamed family.
Then how did he know before they were both "naive kids," and that this was all about "racism"? How did he know all that about Mohamed being "at the top of his class"?
He said the video, as described in court documents, was "unacceptable."
Although apparently it was unacceptable only because it might be "perceived" as such by law enforcement -- a "perception" that could get Mohamed 15 years in prison:
He said the case is "a reminder to all Muslim youth out there, especially young males, that they have to be very careful about their actions and what they say. Even if they don't think they're doing some kind of criminal act, it might be perceived by law enforcement ... that you're promoting something illegal. That can have some very bad consequences."Mohamed, Bedier said, "was sent here on a scholarship to do a doctorate in engineering and not to make videos, and now he's going to pay the price for that."
So why is Bedier now claiming not to know Ahmed Mohamed? If Mohamed were a "good old boy," would Bedier be throwing him under the bus? Is it "Islamophobia"?
Seriously, of course, it is that Bedier doesn't want it on record that he was defending in the press and acting as the spokesman for a man who has pleaded guilty to aiding jihad terrorists. But it is. Nevertheless, however, the mainstream media will no doubt fall for this, getting amnesia about Bedier's previous race-baiting and plumping for Mohamed as well as Megahed, and continuing to treat Bedier as if he really were a human rights activist, as he styles himself.
What race?
Aren't Arabs considered caucasoids?
(Wow! My spellcheck didn't recognize THAT word!)
There have to be more immigration restrictions when it comes to Muslims; the universites are a big problem. As though all those "students" involved in 9/11 weren't enough, we have this and other incidents.
The cost in security to society because of the potential from Muslim saboteurs outweighs any positive benefits of letting them in. This is a dangerous cult we don't need.
CAIR continues to prove they are a Covert Jihad organization...one of the prime directives of such an organization is to lie, lie, and then lie again...can't let the infidels know the true mission of the Muslims..and Muslims hate it when the truth slips out, that is why they object vehemently to freedom of speech.
CAIR is attempting to create further insulation by creating the PC crime of "Driving While Muslim" (DWM) akin to "Driving While Black" (DWB), a crime blamed for the tremendous number of blacks in prison on drug charges.
On the way to DWM, we have the additional crime of "Photography While Muslim" (PWM) or even Surveillance of Sensitive Infrastructure While Muslim (SSIWM).
All these will make the authorities much more careful about profiling. CAIR will demand that any school children or blue-hair old ladies seen with cameras in the vicinity of airports, train stations or nuclear power plants will be stopped and thoroughly questioned too.
Islam: A cult seeking to establish its own race by Allah's decree.
Infidels: The "others" not being part of "Allah's decree".
Islam: An "Equal Opportunity Employer"
He said the case is "a reminder to all Muslim youth out there, especially young males, that they have to be very careful about their actions and what they say. Even if they don't think they're doing some kind of criminal act, it might be perceived by law enforcement ... that you're promoting something illegal. That can have some very bad consequences."
Way to go! He's hit the nail on the head!
A lot of what Islam teaches as good Muslim practice - killing infidels and such - IS "some kind of criminal act" in polite society. Not only law enforcement, but the rest of the community might "perceive" it as anti-social and ILLEGAL.
There's cause for hope! The man shows a glimmer of understanding! Now he just needs to pass that knowledge on to all of Islam. (In my dreams!)
"Had they been two white kids, nobody would be asking those questions,"
That is such a pile of deep doudou. Post 9/11, amid a profusion of subsequent Islamic Terrorist attacks worldwide, LE and simply average citizens have EVERY RIGHT to regard any Mohammedan with distrust and suspicion. EVERY RIGHT. So, get off your supremacist high horse Bedier.
I'm really confused.
If they love Islam so much, and hate America so much, why do they come here?
Uber-hypocrisy?
CAIR continues to prove they are a Covert Jihad organization... -- pulsar182
Oh yeah.
And, the so-called moderate Muslims are Covert Sympathizers. That is how Tony Blankley views them in his excellent book, "The West's Last Chance," and I agree.
They are just waiting, wishing, hoping - anticipating Islamic-conquest-of-the-West gloating.
A sick religion that spawns sick and violent humans that to them these acts of violence are but pious and noble acts. Killing non Muslims is a day in the park for the Mohammedans. In their reality it is sane and normal behavior because that is what Islam wants blood of the infidels. However, we in the west should treat them as a direct act of war. This is a war and these are the soldiers of Islam because they are following and fulfilling the declaration of war that Islam and Mohammad enacted 1400 years ago against the rest of Humanity. These thugs are not Citizens of US, Canada, Australia, UK, India, Thailand etc but of the UMMAH the brotherhood of Islam. Their loyalty lies with Mohammad, Sharia and Islam.
"Had they been two white kids, nobody would be asking those questions," said Ahmed Bedier, executive director of Tampa's chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations."
Okay...These kids aren't "white" (Mr. Bedier says so), and they aren't "black" (I feel pretty secure in saying most African Americans would agree). So, what race are Muslims, again?
Since we know there are "white" Muslims and "black" Muslims, I'm starting to get confused.
How frustrating it must be, for Muslims that they can't properly play the race card, as they have no particular race!
I for one am glad to see this. It highlights exactly what we are up against. Islamaphobia, Ahmed Bedier's butt, this is for real, this is how the muslim community lives, works and believes. It is rapidly appraching the time when muslims are no longer welcome in this country. And, it is specifically due to the actions of CIAR, MSA, ISNA. Be proud Mr. Bedier, you have kicked a hornets nest and laughed while your people got stung, but now they know what you are.
It is time to Ban Muslim Immigration..absolutely.
If they love Islam so much, and hate America so much, why do they come here?
by darcy
It's precisely because they love Islam and hate America that they come here. Can't destroy America or convert or subdue all us infidels without someone being on the scene. It can't be done from across the ocean, not even with the internet. Since the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad has to go to the mountain.
If we love America so much then why do we continue to let them in?
CAIR is a den and Ahmed Bedier is a snake of CAIR's FL chapter. Corrupt politicians like the president/commander-in-chief, Chertoff, Mueller, Condi sell-out the same American tax-payers, they and their family feed of.
No wonder "war-on-terror" was lost before it started, after this: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
immigration was ok to build a developing country, but once that country has been built to be self sufficient, immigration is no longer needed. Ban Muslim Immigration is ok with me.
"Since the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad has to go to the mountain." --PMK
What is the history behind this - what is it? - an Islamic proverb?
Bedier is still directly linked to CAIR. His supposed exodus from the group is a ruse.
Hey Jewdog, I've been racking my brains and I cannot think of one positive benefit of letting them in.
frankly in looking at mr bediers record it would appear if a muslim does anything and breaks the law cair and mr bedier often cry islamiphobia and raceisim ?(what race is islam again) and cry hate crime like when a muslim girl had her head scarf pulled off in a playground argument between 2 preteens suddenly you mr bedier and cair were screaming hate crime yet real hate crimes committed by muslims there never seems to be any calls for the MUSLIMS to be punished ie recently a disabled students service dog the adult student makeing the threats was a MUSLIM but did cair and mr bedier call for the MUSLIM TO BE PUNISHED NOT LIKELY it would seem in their eyes a muslim can do no wrong
"If the mountain won't come to Muhammad" appears in the essays of Francis Bacon and was quoted in Jane Eyre.
Nay, you shall see a bold fellow many times do Mahomet's miracle. Mahomet made the people believe that he would call an hill (sic) to him, and from the top of it offer up his prayers, for the observers of his law. The people assembled; Mahomet called the hill to come to him, again and again; and when the hill stood still, he was never a whit abashed, but said, If the hill will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet will go to the hill. So these men, when they have promised great matters, and failed most shamefully, yet (if they have the perfection of boldness) they will but slight it over, and make a turn, and no more ado.
While searching for this, I found a letter from a Malaysian who says the saying is un-Islamic. (all the better!)
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/47547
In so far as Muslim outrage is concerned, it is not just about drawing a picture of their Prophet. Any derogatory reference to him is considered blasphemous and the NST editors will be well-advised to educate themselves on this.
(Well-advised? Another threat!)
Whoever invented this phrase was clearly anti-Islam. But the phrase is so popular so much so that (ignorant) Muslims themselves would use it in their writings or conversations.
It's interesting and semi amusing that it is muslims who keep referring to themselves as a race.
Every time they play the race card, that's what they are doing. Yet we all know that this defies reality because Islam is not a race. Every time a muslim complains about racism, they should be asked what race is Islam, and made to explain themselves...which they can't. It may be that some people suffer the effects of racism, every race has some racists.
"Had they been two white kids, nobody would be asking those questions," said Ahmed Bedier,
He is trying to divorce Islam from the proceedings, and tying them to racism by inferring that the arresting police are racists.
And the structure behind them is racist as well.
That this has nothing to do with Islam or jihad, but everything to do with racist white policemen.
These two naive kids are victims, and Islams off the hook.
Uh huh...Racism...The Lone Ranger and Tonto were riding across a plain when they spotted hostile indian's. The Ranger said to Tonto, 'Indians in front of us, behind us and on both sides, what are we going to do?
To which Tonto relied, 'Whadaya meanum 'WE', 'white man'....?
I don't know how to classify Jassim Aldeen by race, but he's clearly related to the insects.
I can't make out if Jassim Aldeen is White, Black or an insect.
"immigration was ok to build a developing country, but once that country has been built to be self sufficient, immigration is no longer needed." -- pulsar182
That's it in a nutshell. What was OK and even great in the early 20th century, IS NOT NEEDED ANYMORE! HELLO!
Especially Mohammedan immigration. Get. Out.
If Muslim is a race, then Muslims are the losers in it.
Ahmed Bediers' Infidelobia makes him overly paranoid. He seems to see mistrust from every Infidel.
Gee, How come?
More illegals in my city. Saw three of them returning from the evening namaz yesterday. All three looked like the clones of adeel above. They seem to be surrounding Infidel areas by encroaching upon public space. Most of the time they use pushcarts (quite a lot work from carts as bicycle mechanics, the tools and air-compressors are provided by your friendly neighbourhood mosque that gets zakat from HQ sowdi barbaria) before establishing a shanty of wood or tin. Then they establish a dargah (grave), and when the municipality tries to remove them they riot because a dargah is supposed to be pak (holy, sacred). Thus the infection is spreading. Things are going fast to hell over here. I don't feel so good.
Many Darth Vader cloaked invading my areas. Similar long gowns and caps with the long beards. Women with the black gowns like the evil Darth Vader.
No wonder "war-on-terror" was lost before it started, after this: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
Posted by: Alert
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That's what happens when speechwriters put words in the mouths of boobs.. er babes..
"Had they been two white kids,no one would be asking those questions."
-Berdier
Incorrect,"white" kids,(or any "kids", these men are adults are they not?)including muslims of the Caucasian persuasion,are scrutinized whenever evidence of involvement with potential explosives comes into play.
"naive kids","4th of July"(how patriotic!)fireworks?
Insult to the what's left of the publics intelligence.
For Mr. Berdier's information,that agreement to plead guilty was based on more than a "lack of evidence in this case."
"was sent here on a scholarship to do a doctorate in engineering and not to make videos,and now he's going to pay the price for that"
He is going to pay the price not for "making videos" but for potentially assisting in an act of destruction against citizens of the US.
Yet another documented example of:
Projection,Deception,Victimization,Infiltration
Bedier and Aldeen in the photo are trying for classic Taqiya faces except Bedier betrays this with way too much smugness.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
defend terrorists
then throw them under the bus
as soon as they confess
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe loves
terrorist sympathizers
and believes all their lies
they are peaceful you see
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All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech, then there can be no real freedom.
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Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon
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Help Halt Terrorism Today!
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This is what stood out for me:
'He [Ahmed Bedier] said the case is "a reminder to all Muslim youth out there, especially young males, that they have to be very careful about their actions and what they say.'
'Even if they don't think they're doing some kind of criminal act, it might be perceived by law enforcement ... that you're promoting something illegal. That can have some very bad consequences."
Mohamed, Bedier said, "was sent here on a scholarship to do a doctorate in engineering and not to make videos...'.
In other words, Ahmed B. is delivering a big shoutout to all those other young Muslim jihadis-in-training out there. He's telling them to learn from M & M's mistakes, and to avoid going off half-cocked.
He's NOT telling them to stop doing, or plotting, or preparing for, military jihad. He's just reminding them that although there are lots of things that Islam prescribes that Muslims believe to be perfectly acceptable, the pesky kafir persist (from A. B's POV, wrongly) in viewing those things as 'crimes' and as 'illegal'; and right now, some kafir in America can and will sometimes enforce their view of the world, so one must tread carefully.
Since some American kafir on-the-ground (e.g. highway policemen) are still very wary despite all the 'spin', and have numbers and force on their side for now, the jihadi must get smart. He must improve his camouflage, lie low, and concentrate on absorbing those useful kafir technological skills that will serve Islamic domination in the longer term - 'Mohamed was sent here on a scholarship to do a doctorate in engineering...not to make videos'. Implied: you could do much more damage with an engineering degree, once you've got it, than with an amateurish video. Get your priorities right!
It's all part of the same shift in strategy that I think we are seeing right across those areas where the Ummah interfaces with the non-Muslim world. (I think the idea is to get us to drop our guard).
Some of the wolves have decided they had better hop back inside their sheepskins, for the moment.
Muslims should be profiled and Mosques should be monitored. If they do not like it, they can move to an Islamic country. That is where they belong anyway.