UPDATE June 18, 10:30 AM PDT: ABC is reporting that Obama's half brother didn't say Obama had a Muslim background -- and they have the transcript of the interview with Malik Obama to prove it. So the Jerusalem Post story linked below appears to be false.
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Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website says flatly: "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."
Barack Obama's half brother says that the candidate has a "Muslim background."
Which one is lying?
This is not a Manchurian candidate issue. This is an honesty issue.
"Malik Obama says his brother will be good president for the Jews," from the Jerusalem Post, June 12 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background.In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya.
"Obama will be good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background".
...despite his muslim backgroung...
So is it a given, and does Malik acknowledge it, that anyone with a muslim background cannot possibly be good for the Jewish people?
"This is not a Manchurian candidate issue. This is an honesty issue."
Robert, I agree. I would note though, the similarity of this statement and the Clinton/Lewinsky/ impeachment issue years ago. The left insisted Clinton was being persecuted just for having extramarital sex, something which, according to them, is not a crime, and after all, look at JFK's behavior...yada yada yada....".
That matter was also an honesty issue because the impeachable offense was the perjury Clinton committed for lying about the affair under oath. But the left would have none of it and framed the issue as they deemed fit.
To point this is out will likely result in claims that the declarant is a raving Islamophope and a racist. But as in the Clinton matter, Obama's dishonesty needs to be pointed out, regardless of the left's spinning the issue into what they want it to be.
This might be a good time for one of those "nuanced" responses that the Democrats have promoted with such fervor.
An admission of his father's religion and his own early education might be in order along with a good explanation of his change of direction to Christianity.
What worries me about Obama's faith is its Marxist Black Liberation Theology base.
Yeah, like his Kenyan grandmother:
Last year she was still a Muslim
Obama’s Muslim Grandma Turns Christian, Over Night, Magically
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/03/06/obamas-muslim-grandma-turns-christian-over-night-magically/
In April of last year, Sarah Hussein Obama told the New York Times she is a devout Muslim.
That was then. This is now:
Sarah Hussein Obama of Kenya, Barack Obama’s stepgrandmother, is a lifelong Muslim. “I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” she says.
“In the world of today, children have different religions from their parents,” she said. She, too, is a Christian.
These people are flexible. What say you?
These people are flexible. What say you?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 14, 2008 7:55 AM
I say it's Taqiyya Time.
You know how Oprah said, "It's Obama Time!"
Yeah, well, Oprah, you don't know anything about Islam. It's Taqiyya Time is what it is.
With a President Hussein Obama, the camel has much more than his nose in the tent - in fact, he's completely inside.
"This is not a Manchurian candidate issue. This is an honesty issue."
Absolutely! Obama clearly has a serious credibility problem. I knew that when he claimed that, after 20 years, he was just finding out what Jeremiah Wright believed and preached.
It's amazing to me that any sane person voted for him after that claim.
I don't know if Obama is a Muslim or not, but I do know that he's dishonest. Both him and his wife are racist. That I do know.
"committed Christian" is PC-speak for liberal Christian.
From above: I don't know if Obama is a Muslim or not, but I do know that he's dishonest.
He's a politician, he's supposed to be dishonest. In politics the most believable liar wins.
The problem with Barack is that he is not all that believable, he is not a good enough liar to get elected. His lies will only carry him so far. The worse thing a politician can do is get caught lying prior to the election. You notice the expert politicians Bush/Clinton/Bush, waited till elected to tell big lies.
While he tries hard, he is just not adept enough to get away with lying, for that reason alone he is not qualified...
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Obama is an invented candidate. He’s a product of corrupt Chicago ward politics with an exceedingly thin resume and, while probably slightly above average IQ, he is not that bright. So how is it that this abandoned offspring of a polygamous Muslim father and a left wing xenophilic mother can even be considered for the highest office of the land? We must understand that he did not appear out of nowhere. The policies we have indulged in, and even reveled in, for the last 40 years have laid the ground for the inevitable appearance of an Obama like figure on the presidential stage. Yes, in the early 1960s Blacks were subject to discrimination and oppression. But in spite of that, or perhaps due to the pressure that they were under, the Black family was largely intact and Blacks were generally self-reliant. Then we removed the cork from the bottle, so to speak, but instead of raising them up to the level of Whites we have defined our own culture downward to their level.
There has been a campaign of relentless propaganda pushed by the elites and the intelligentsia. Blacks are always portrayed as the victim in spite of the fact that a far disproportionate amount of violence including inter-racial violence is perpetrated not by Whites, but by Blacks. Thus stories of white violence are manufactured and then trumpeted by the media as truth – e.g. the Duke Rape hoax – and held out as examples of white racism. But real crimes, such as the murder of the two young white coeds in North Carolina are minimized and if reported at all the racial angle is ignored. Then there is the torrent of films churned out by assorted Hollywood hacks and whackos in which villainous or hapless whites are always set straight by heroic selfless “magic Negroes”.
When you combine this with the perpetual vilification of western culture, incessant anti-American propaganda, constant bashing of religious and evangelical Christians (and Mormons), the pushing of the gay agenda even at the public school level and the opening up of our borders to an unprecedented influx of incompatible third world masses, we should not wonder how it is that we have come to this state. For now we have a totally untested prospective president, the offspring of a ditzy hippy mother with a sexual obsession for foreign non-white men of Muslim background; and one who has many questionable connections and associates and whose only qualification is an exotic name and interracial background.
If we’re lucky he will be defeated this time but if we go back to business as usual we are only setting the stage for the next appearance of Obama or by someone even worse.
Captain to 1st mate.
"Swiftboats at the ready?"
"Aye-Aye Captain" 1st mate.
"Swiftboats....Launch"
The Navy pulls us through.
RBLA
Excellent post. I know of all the facts you point to. Such as the hidden FBI iteration crime statistics.
-the offspring of a ditzy hippy mother with a sexual obsession for foreign non-white men of Muslim background; and one who has many questionable connections and associates and whose only qualification is an exotic name and interracial background-
It was extremely unusual in 1960 to have premarital sex with a black guy from Africa. Anne Dunham was an extreme non-conformist thus had more than a few screws loose. And Obama inherited some
Sorry,
What is a "manchurian candidate"?
Thanks
PA,
A "manchurian candidate" is fancy way to call someone a sleepr agent.
It comes from a novel written in 1959 by Richard Condon, and was adapted into a popular movie in 1962.
Barry Obama is a modern, quasi-"Manchurian Candidate" because of his nebulous ties with the islamic world.
All we have to do is figure out who's pulling the strings, and what the trigger is.
And I'm sure that won't be a 'queen of diamonds.'
I remember a time when this site actually criticized Obama on national security instead of personal smears, and issued videos of Robert Spencer denouncing this garbage. Oh well. Must be election season. Either that, or Spencer is staying away from actual national security issues after his support for Musharraf blew up in his face.
You folks are really digging, aren't you? You posted a story with a whopping 4 lines in total, and the "Muslim Background" isn't even a direct quote. It's a paraphrase from Obama's brother.
Here are facts: At the same time Obama attended Quran classes, he also attended Catholic School. While he has "Muslim background" in the sense that he was around Muslims while he was growing up, to say that he was ever a practicing Muslim is simply false. By these standards, every Tzefardi Jew is also a Muslim because he or she grew up in the presence of Muslims. So I guess "Operation Red Carpet" was a waste of time after all.
Schlomo Michael, Obama did indeed attend a school run by Catholics in Indonesia, but children of many different religious backgrounds--Christian, Muslim, and HIndu--attended--the regular curriculum was not Christian. It was just a good school. Upper-class Muslims often send their children to Christian-run schools, because the academic standards tend to be higher.
All children in Indonesia in the mid-sixties had to register by religion, and then attend religious classes after school based on their designation. The record keeping was very poor, and the papers were eaten by insects. However, not only do several of Obama's teachers recall his being registered as Muslim--hardly surprising, since both his biological father and Indonesian step-father were Muslim. Apparently Obama's stepfather was not very religious, but he did attend the Mosque occasionally, and sometimes took young "Barry" with him.
Obama himself relates an anecdote in one of his books, where he used to get in trouble in Qu'ran class for making faces.
This last may imply that Obama did not take the classes very seriously, and that is quite possible. There also does not seem much agreement on the content of the classes at the time--how hard-line were they? Indonesia is considered "moderate", and was perhaps even more so at the time. Still, we know that there is some very disturbing material in the Qu'ran, sira, and hadith. We do not know to what extent these passages were emphasized, or glossed over, or perhaps omitted entirely.
Obama himself says that he did not attend a "radical madrassa" in Indonesia, but the statement is worded so as to imply that he did not attend any sort of religious classes. Taken literally, it may just mean that Obama himself did not consider the classes to be "radical".
If Obama is a Christian its "God damn America"...
If Obama is really a Muslim (or Muslim smpathizer) it's "God damn Ameica"...
Either way, he's no patriot!
I wonder if Obama can even attract a sane white male to serve as his VP. He may have no choice but to choose Hitlery Clinton? The majority of Socialists are not of sound mind. So who could there be left to choose from that would add value to the ticket?
The list of People Obama has thrown under the Bus grows with each passing day. Each road kill points out a flaw in his "judgment". With every claim he makes of not knowing the nature of his supporters, compounds the questions of his ability to think through the really important issues before the Country. Before long, he will have only himself to throw under the Bus. Just to save face.
If my memory is correct, Obama's father was raised as a Muslim, but he became an agnostic later in life. Despite this fact, I believe that Barack was still given aMuslim name so he would not stand out among Muslim classmates and friends and be picked on when he was a child. People who may not be aware of this assume that Barack is Muslim when that is not the case.
Assuming that the name Shlomo_Michael can be taken at face value and is not some deliberate deception, he is one more case of a suicidal Jewish liberal forming an important part of Obama's constituency. These starry eyed cultural Marxists are setting the stage for both Israel's imminent destruction and for the emergence of pogroms against American Jews at the hands of anti-Semitic Muslim immigrants. Granted Obama is probably not a secret Muslim practitioner. But as a member of a Farrakhanite type church he is a specimen of Islamo-Christian, albeit one who takes their lead from the unorthodox and cultish version of Islam practiced by the Black Muslim sect.
"...good President for the Jews, DESPITE his Muslim background
Never mind that Muslims are required by their cult to hate Jews, O'Bomber is above all that. No, really. "Would I lie?"
Shlomo Michael and all the other romantic followers of Obama: The man is a liar, and has been practicing deception and deception by omission from the moment he started speaking. None of you listen-you hear but do nnot listen. Look at the malseasant, bloodletting mess Clinton aided and abeeted for eight years!!!!!
Look at his behavior since leaving the Presidency!!!! Neither he-not his crew have changed, he was that arrogant and that smart-assed for eight years and did NOTHING to stop the continual spread of this menaace across the globe, and did not do anything about the unstopping murder of Americans.
I warn all of you, Obama says the same things and has the same followers, those very entranced following. I see nothing but abdication, capitualtion, and appeasance resulting in the collapse of this country if he-and his crew are elected. Trust me, you will miss Bush. Obama is nothing but a liar.
Shlomo Michael and all the other romantic followers of Obama: The man is a liar, and has been practicing deception and deception by omission from the moment he started speaking. None of you listen-you hear but do nnot listen. Look at the malseasant, bloodletting mess Clinton aided and abeeted for eight years!!!!!
Look at his behavior since leaving the Presidency!!!! Neither he-not his crew have changed, he was that arrogant and that smart-assed for eight years and did NOTHING to stop the continual spread of this menaace across the globe, and did not do anything about the unstopping murder of Americans.
I warn all of you, Obama says the same things and has the same followers, those very entranced following. I see nothing but abdication, capitualtion, and appeasance resulting in the collapse of this country if he-and his crew are elected. Trust me, you will miss Bush. Obama is nothing but a liar.
Shlomo Michael and all the other romantic followers of Obama: There is NO need to dig. His last comment about leaving the church is proof, he said the ONLY reason he left is because he is running for President. The man is a liar, and has been practicing deception and deception by omission from the moment he started speaking. None of you listen-you hear but do nnot listen. Look at the malseasant, bloodletting mess Clinton aided and abeeted for eight years!!!!!
Look at his behavior since leaving the Presidency!!!! Neither he-not his crew have changed, he was that arrogant and that smart-assed for eight years and did NOTHING to stop the continual spread of this menaace across the globe, and did not do anything about the unstopping murder of Americans.
I warn all of you, Obama says the same things and has the same followers, those very entranced following. I see nothing but abdication, capitualtion, and appeasance resulting in the collapse of this country if he-and his crew are elected. Trust me, you will miss Bush. Obama is nothing but a liar.
1. Gravenimage,
I also know Jewish students at my school who attend Islam classes, because they're interested in the subject or think it's important to know for various reasons. These are not only attended by "starry-eyed cultural Marxists"* like myself, but also hard-right AIPAC supporters and everyone in between.
2. RBLA:
read this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080616/pl_politico/11099;_ylt=AhpKXuG46EBB9_5zPDrsSP2s0NUE
3. vincenzo4,
Yep, Clinton's foreign policy was not fabulous. That's why I supported Obama in the primaries. But the fact is, there has been an unprecedented mushrooming of terrorism since 2000, and even since 2004. Since 2004: Hezbollah slow-motion coup in Lebanon, explosion of sectarian warfare in Iraq, Hamas in Gaza, Iran closer to nukes and infiltrating in Iraq. Since 2000: all this and outbreak of Intifadah, 9/11, Underground bombing, Madrid. For these reasons, I think Obama is best prepared to address these issues.
*What the hell is a "cultural Marxist"? I am a practicing Orthodox Jew, and favor market-based solutions to solve our economic problems.