It could easily happen, given the prevailing multiculturalism and new court rulings on marriage. If marriage can be redefined once, it can be redefined again. And it will be, unless a sufficient number of people say no, they don't want polygamy, or child brides, or any other aspects of Sharia, in the United States.
"Polygamy, child brides coming to U.S.? Editor of Islam book says recent court rulings pave the way," from WorldNetDaily, June 21:
WASHINGTON – Polygamy and child brides may make a comeback in the U.S. as a result of recent court rulings and the simultaneous rise of Islam, says the editor of a book of stories about Muslims leaving the faith."In light of the recent California court ruling and the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints) legal fiasco in Texas, is the time coming when we in the U.S will be forced to tolerate child brides and multiple wives?" asks Joel Richardson, editor of the provocative new book "Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out," published by WND Books.
The book is a compilation of the stories of 23 men and women who left Islam. The contributors are explicit about the danger that is posed by incrementally yielding traditional western moral and beliefs to Islamic tradition, a process that is called "soft sharia."...
And stealth jihad.
wow 23 people - incredible - a tidal wave. Could we right a book about the number of Christians leaing Christianity - you know say about 23 million?
watch and weep
http://umarlee.com/2008/05/06/23-leaving-islam-and-23000-entering-the-deen/
"Polygamy and child brides may make a comeback in the U.S. as a result of recent court rulings and the simultaneous rise of Islam, says the editor of a book of stories about Muslims leaving the faith."
well as the author of a book on Muslims leaving Islam (note not converting to his religion say Christianity, just leaving Islam) he's certain to be an objective source according to the sheep at dhimmi watch.
And of course no author would make outlandish claims to get publicity for a newly published book. Robert Spencer is too smart to realise that.
Why is Robert Spencer so anti-polygamy? Polygamy is Biblical and certainly more natural than the enforced celibacy his cult enforces on its priests.
Devout Christians in Africa have no problem with it.
And it is of course practicised by the Christian church of his hero Mitt Romney
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008185.php
But when a white Christian/non-Muslim does it -its OK in Bobby's hood
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 11:12 AM
Nonsense. Polygamy is not OK in "Bobby's hood" under any circumstances. Polygamy is barbaric and that is the reason Allah supposedly permits it, because Allah is merely a fictional deity borne of the king of all barbarians (and charlatans), Muhammad. He certainly was found of wives, concubines, etc. He also wasn't picky about their ages either.
Your tu quoque rationializations about third-world tribal african Christian communities and Mormons doesn't wash, but your position is crystal clear.
That's why here in the West, religion is a personal choice that is also subject to secular laws, unlike Islamic countries. That is why polygamy is illegal in the US, thankfully, yet me must remain vigilant against its creeping influence by Muslims.
"wow 23 people - incredible - a tidal wave. Could we right a book about the number of Christians leaing Christianity - you know say about 23 million?"
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 11:02 AM
Actually, Umar Lee quoted 23 thousand, not million, and so what? what's his source on that estimate? Did he make that up in between cabbie shifts?
Actually, you should study the book, then you might be better able to discern the difference between what the Bible merely reports, and what it condones/requires. Avoid eisogesis and projection.
The Qur'an, on the other hand, does condone polygamy (4:3). Your "prophet" practiced it, quite to excess, actually.
Now, you wouldn't be trying to "make outlandish claims to get publicity", would you?
Oh, really?
6 million Murtads a year good enough for you?
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/01/are_muslims_lea.php
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/muslims-leaving-islam-in-droves/
http://www.formermuslims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=972
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Muslims_Leaving_Islam
istanbuletcetera:
It's easy to throw around various figures. Here are a few I've found at times on the Net:
1. Moslems in Europe are leaving Islam at the rate of 2000/DAY; so that only continued immigration from Moslem countries is keeping up their numbers in Europe.
2. Chinese are converting to Christianity at the rate of 10000/DAY, virtually none are converting to Islam.
3. In Africa, the only areas where the Islamic population is increasing are in the already Islamic countries, by means of large families; everywhere else it's Christianity that is increasing, via conversion.
Concerned Citizen
I see I should have read some of your links before posting my comments; I would have found a lot more examples. Thanks for providing these links, they're very informative.
Given that one political party has totally abdicated its moral and ethical responsibilities and instead worships at the altar of multiculturalism and political correctness, child brides and multiple wives are a distinct possibility.
Hell just look at that group of Mormons in Texas with their harems. The state wouldn't even arrest the men for polygamy. The state even helps them by putting every female on welfare and food stamps so as to help the men maintain their lifestyle.
Way to go Texas.
Nor do I see feminists getting upset about any of this either. They seem to be quite uncaring about what other cultures here in America do to their women. Their outrage is limited to white men in general.
Its just a matter of time.
"wow 23 people - incredible - a tidal wave. Could we right (sic) a book about the number of Christians leaing Christianity - you know say about 23 million?
Ist,
This book makes no claim to be representative of the total number of people leaving Islam. It is merely a colletction of the stories of some people who did.
As for whether or not these people then converted to Christianity, of course most of them did not. Many apostates of Islam embrace atheism. Can't say that I blame them, given the post traumatic stress of having been tethered to a "god", such as Allah. In my opinion, Allah is mean, in every definition of that word.
Are you sure all of your 23 million left Christianity for Islam? Do you have any other sources for this figure, besides a Muslim on video? Might not some of them have been atheists, and converts from other religions?
at one time , in history, Mohammad had zero followers. not that numbers mean anything , right?
pulsar182,
After about 12 years of preaching, Mohammed had only about 150 followers.
So much for the appeal of those Meccan verses.
But since he became known as the complete "narcissist, misogynist, rapist, pedophile, lecher, torturer, mass murderer, cult leader, assassin, terrorist, mad man and looter" from Medina, numbers have swelled to 1.3 billion.
Gee, do you think it was the popularity of the misogyny, raping, pedophilia, lechery, torturing, murdering, terrorizing and looting??
It shall be Constantinople once again, mohammedan.
"Nonsense. Polygamy is not OK in "Bobby's hood" under any circumstances. Polygamy is barbaric and that is the reason Allah supposedly permits it,"
It was practiced by Solomon, David and Abraham. Were they barbaric (God forbid!)
There is nothing in either Old or New testament to ban it.
Martin Luther father of Protestantism, recognised this
" "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter." (De Wette II, 459, ibid., pp. 329-330.)"
Why is Polygamy less barbaric than having a wife and numerous mistress -the common Christian practice? or gay marriage which Bobby never condemns?
"Oh, really?
6 million Murtads a year good enough for you?
Concerned Citizen"
It's easy to throw around various figures. Here are a few I've found at times on the Net:
1. Moslems in Europe are leaving Islam at the rate of 2000/DAY; so that only continued immigration from Moslem countries is keeping up their numbers in Europe.
2. Chinese are converting to Christianity at the rate of 10000/DAY, virtually none are converting to Islam.
3. In Africa, the only areas where the Islamic population is increasing are in the already Islamic countries, by means of large families; everywhere else it's Christianity that is increasing, via conversion.
ebonystone"
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make up your minds dumbowatchers! one minute you say Muslims/Islam are taking over Europe the next that Muslims are leaving islam in droves.
"Are you sure all of your 23 million left Christianity for Islam? Do you have any other sources for this figure, besides a Muslim on video? Might not some of them have been atheists, and converts from other religions?
Abscedere"
when did I say they converted to islam? they simply apostated from Christianity as the majority of the population of the west has. Wow your teeth achingly dumb!
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"It shall be Constantinople once again, mohammedan.
CGW"
when the camel passes through the eye of the needle pagan
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"But since he became known as the complete "narcissist, misogynist, rapist, pedophile, lecher, torturer, mass murderer, cult leader, assassin, terrorist, mad man and looter" from Medina, numbers have swelled to 1.3 billion.
Gee, do you think it was the popularity of the misogyny, raping, pedophilia, lechery, torturing, murdering, terrorizing and looting??
concerned citizen"
As with most virulent islamophobia this is simply projection- Christiainity was spread through Europe, the Americas, Africa and Australisia through genocide and misogyny, raping, pedophilia, lechery, torturing, murdering, terrorizing and looting.
You are only Christians because your ancestors were forced to be at point of a sword
Does the triple post make you feel more profound.
Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Notice the uses of singulars here.
Talk about projection! You can't even project without copying and pasting!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus, whose faith will be returned to Constantinople.
(re: polygamy)"It was practiced by Solomon, David and Abraham. Were they barbaric (God forbid!)"
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 7:12 PM
This is a beautiful comment by our Muslim visitor. It belies all that Islam is, a cheap plagarism of various historical Christian sects throughout the Middle East. Over the years, the deference to the "prophets" of the Abrahamic faiths, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, etc. has been adulterated as the islamic texts became a whole new re-write with some warlord as God's ultimate and final prophet.
Laughable, as is the willful mental slavery of all Muslims.
That Muslims have the get-go to declare Christ a prophet, yet refute nearly every single historical event associated to him is most curious. Even in Muhammad's shoddy re-write of Christianity, he couldn't help but make "Issa" immortal, resurrected to destroy the cross along side Allah at the end of days.
Muhammad ironically, is still dead, unwittingly murdered by a Jew who saw him for what he was....a charlatan, whereas Christ willfully layed down his life for the Father.
Nearly 1400 years later, and a billion plus strong (though still noticably paling to Christians in numbers worldwide), the Mohammedans are declaring victory.
Laughable.
"You are only Christians because your ancestors were forced to be at point of a sword"
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 7:24 PM
Now this is the most laughable of statements in the bunch. It actually sounds like something you should recite to yourself while looking in the mirror, isty, you slave to a vengeful, yet oh so impotent deity, you.
Pity comes to mind.
Christianity was spread by word of mouth via the missionaries.
re: "istanadumbass":
What can you expect from a Muslim who looks to Irish-American convert, and self-professed cabbie extraordinaire Umar Lee for sage advice.
Yes, Umar's credentials as an Islamic scholar are world renowned.
The Christian faith is growing by leaps and bounds in the global south nations, and in a special way in Africa and Asia. Writers such as Philip Jenkins wrote books about this trend.
Your populations have jumped the gun and prematurely initiated their end games, militant, demographic and political, making them more conspicuous. You are breeding like mad, but in some areas only so as to maintain your numbers. You are making gains in some areas (Europe), but in some (Africa), you are having massive losses. It is not double minded to grieve and seek to stop the gains in Europe, and also celebrate with Godly praises the losses in Africa.
Dumbo.
Thanks to Pope Benedict XVI who first got this quote going, which is credited to speak the truth about Islam.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus
Thanks Concerned Citizen for posting the quote again.
concerned citizen
"Mere men, like Mohammed, are not to be used as role models. Thus, 33:21 is at odds with the JudaeoChristian scriptures."
Christian "scriptures" maybe - in Judaism like Islam the idea that Jesus (pbuh) was other than a man is the upmost blasphemy
awake
"This is a beautiful comment by our Muslim visitor. It belies all that Islam is, a cheap plagarism of various historical Christian sects throughout the Middle East. "
Wonder what Jews would say to your comment that Solomon, David and Abraham pbuh) are Christians. Are you denying whats in the OT?
"That Muslims have the get-go to declare Christ a prophet, yet refute nearly every single historical event associated to him is most curious."
Those would be the Christian texts which totally contradict each other and have been altered having been written hundreds of years after Jesus (pbuh) passing! LOL
"You are only Christians because your ancestors were forced to be at point of a sword"
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 7:24 PM
"Now this is the most laughable of statements in the bunch. It actually sounds like something you should recite to yourself while looking in the mirror, isty, you slave to a vengeful, yet oh so impotent deity, you."
Except its true- Europe was forcibly Christianized - those pagans who resisted were slaughetered-thats why there are no long standing non-Christian communities in Europe-while in Muslim lands they are -the eponoymous dhimmis of thise blogs titled.
You could never make a blog of minorities under Christendom because the "loving peaceful" Christians exterminated them all!!
There has been a troll ( istanbulnotconstantinople ) trying to hijack this thread.
From above: or gay marriage which Bobby never condemns?
This site is not about gay marriage...Or gay issues, I think you know that, so what's yer point, if you have one?
Are you polygamous? You feel a need to defend it do you? How many wives do you have. Are they all over 12 years old?...
Also from above: Why is Polygamy less barbaric than having a wife and numerous mistress -the common Christian practice?
I don't know that having a mistress is a common Christian practice. I don't know any Christians with a mistress, but I suppose a few may indulge themselves. The married Christians that I know are faithful to their one spouse. I don't think having mistresses is condoned by Christianity. At least I don't know of any Christian churches that advocate multiple spouses, or extra marital affairs.
Of course we know in Islam that one night stands are ok as a 'temporary marriage'. What's that called again 'muta'? But to be fair, that is controversial, but just the same, right or wrong, Islamic muta exists. If it did not exist it would not be a controversy.
Marrying children is always a perversion, no matter who does it. In G Washington's time the age of consent was ten years old. Not set by ten year olds, but by lecherous old men who wanted to play with little girls. America grew up considerably. Once anti-child, children are now a protected class...sometimes over protected. Islam is still in the dark ages with polygamy, especially child brides, and treatment of females in general.
In Islam, would it be permitted for a muslimah to have four husbands? Do you know any with multiple husbands? I bet not...
The troll in question is simply making things up.
bigcatgirl
"Thanks to Pope Benedict XVI who first got this quote going, which is credited to speak the truth about Islam.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus"
yet the previous "infallible" Pope said this
""The church regards with esteem also the Muslims. They adore the one God. . . they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honour Mary, His virgin Mother .....In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting." "
Can Robert the Papist explain how both "infallible" popes can contradict each other -and how he would have to believe both
and Pope Benedict also said this
This is what Robert thinks of you protestant heretics !!!
"Though not widely practiced among ordinary Indonesians, polygamy has some prominent advocates, including a Muslim restaurateur Puspo Wardoyo who has four wives, and who has been at the forefront of a campaign to promote multiple marriages.
Wardoyo's popular chain of restaurants is renowned for its "polygamy juice," a mixture of four tropical fruits, and "polygamy vegetables," a four-vegetable combo."
I find Muslim polygamy juice clearly shows that Islam is still wallowing in the 7th century.
apologies for incomplete quote:
Can Robert the Papist explain how both "infallible" popes can contradict each other -and how he would have to believe both
and Pope Benedict also said this
"Anglican leaders reacted with dismay, accusing the Roman Catholic Church of paradoxical behaviour. They said that the new 16-page document outlining the “defects” of non-Catholic churches constituted a major obstacle to ecumenism. The document said that the Orthodox Church suffered from a “wound” because it did not recognize the primacy of the pope. The wound was “still more profound” in Protestant denominations, it added.
It was “difficult to see how the title of ‘Church’ could possibly be attributed to them,” said the statement from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Roman Catholicism was “the one true Church of Christ.” The language echoes earlier statements by the same body, headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger until he became pope. "
This is what Robert thinks of you protestant heretics !!! Your not really a church
LOL
I think we've passed the point where annoyance exceeds entertainment value.
You could never make a blog of minorities under Christendom because the "loving peaceful" Christians exterminated them all!!
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 8:09 PM
All but good ol' Mo and his billion plus minions.
Robert is a Melkite Greek Catholic.
"In 1054, Patriarch Michael Kerularios and Cardinal Humbert of Silva Candida had excommunicated each other, thus formalizing a schism which had been developing for many years. The Melkite Patriarch Peter III of Antioch rejected the quarrel of the Latin Cardinal and the Patriarch of Constantinople . In 1965, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I "consigned these excommunications to oblivion."
Isty, even as a Protestant, I know that you need to keep in mind when the Pope is speaking ex cathedra or not.
Yes. It's DEFCON 5 on the annoyance scale.
Thanks, Marisol.
I didn't even find it entertaining in the first few instances.
Maybe that's DEFCON 1.
It's a topsy-turvy world. White is black, good is bad, one is five.
Who can keep up?
Well thank god in our modern western culture we abolished polygamy which leads to the abuse and subjugation of women. We have advanced beyond our biblical forefathers in many ways. But too many Muslims still regard Mohammed and his degenerate ways as a relevant model.
When I first read about FLDS, I thought "Uh, oh! The government will botch this and give Islamic polygamy an inroad into America."
Somehow, I haven't been able to get many of my conservative friends to follow my logic on the above, although a few immediately understood what I was saying.
istanbulnotconstantinople,
Remember that Benedict XVI from a historic perspective as well as theological perspective the realities of Islam. In other words, both as a historian and a theologian.
istanbulnotconstantinople,
"apologies for incomplete quote:
Can Robert the Papist explain how both "infallible" popes can contradict each other -and how he would have to believe both
and Pope Benedict also said this
"Anglican leaders reacted with dismay, accusing the Roman Catholic Church of paradoxical behaviour. They said that the new 16-page document outlining the “defects” of non-Catholic churches constituted a major obstacle to ecumenism. The document said that the Orthodox Church suffered from a “wound” because it did not recognize the primacy of the pope. The wound was “still more profound” in Protestant denominations, it added.
It was “difficult to see how the title of ‘Church’ could possibly be attributed to them,” said the statement from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Roman Catholicism was “the one true Church of Christ.” The language echoes earlier statements by the same body, headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger until he became pope. "
This is what Robert thinks of you protestant heretics !!! Your not really a church
LOL"
Well the meeting with the Christian leaders while Pope Benedict XVI had visited America was a few months ago was a resounding sucess.
You are only Christians because your ancestors were forced to be at point of a sword
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 21, 2008 7:24 PM
And why are you a muslim? Because you can't formulate an original or creative thought? Because you are bereft of the ability to recognize pure evil or too terrified to question the blatant malevolence of your filthy religion? Because you were brainwashed from birth to believe a pile of spurious crap so full of holes and contradictions a moron could see straight through it? Or because you are a sniveling coward so scared of the wrath of a non-existent deity that you must search for equivilence in other faiths to justify the horrors of islam. Keep searching; it's not there so you'll never find it.
Islam is in a league all its own, a sinister creed unlike any other.
Since you obviously do not understand the Old Testament, maybe you can understand this:
Christians and Jews are not running amok throughout the world reinacting or attempting to emulate the people and customs depicted in ancient Biblical scripture. Christianity and Judaism encourage the separation of church and government, and modernizing trends reflecting today's cultures, attitudes, and lifestyles. Islam is the only "religion" that incorporates within its canonical texts the concept of violent warfare to forcibly subjugate the world, better known as jihad or holy war. The hideous doctrine of islam is written in stone; immutable, cruel, vicious, and EVIL.
"The hideous doctrine of islam is written in stone; immutable, cruel, vicious, and EVIL."
Posted by: Susanp at June 22, 2008 12:16 AM
Amen.
"Wow your (sic) teeth achingly dumb!
Not at all. I can speak. I've been able to speak for a long time, and I rarely suffer from laryngitis.
I can write, too, and I know what homonyms are. Homonyms are words that are spelled differently, yet are pronounced the same, though they have different meanings.
Take "your" and you're, for example. "Your" is a possessive form of "you":
Your house...
Your car...
Your family...
Your arguments would carry more weight if you took the time and effort to use the right words in the right way...
"You're", on the other hand, is a contraction of "you are":
You're a bore...
You're here solely to annoy people and hijack threads...
You're looking for a certain kind of fight, and you're not going to get it, here. We squabble and disagree, from time to time, but we don't threaten and bully, and I think that's what you want from the posters here....We don't want to be like Muslims, you see. That's the whole point.
You're rather pathetic in your insistence upon returning to this site, to denounce the owner, and declare that all who agree with him are somehow feeble-minded.
For those interested in reading about home-grown polygamy, may I suggest the following books. "God's Brothel" and "Escape" Both are tales about women who have escaped LDS fundamentalist groups.
islam will perish from the face of the Earth.
Constantinople will rise again.
This is a promise, mohammedan.
"You are only Christians because your ancestors were forced to be at point of a sword"
Tell that to the Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Mexican Catholics. The ancestors of whom NEVER saw a sword (or any weapon) leveled against them in the name of Christ. Yet they converted to Christ in droves.
And that's just naming a few off-hand.
"islam will perish from the face of the Earth.
Constantinople will rise again.
This is a promise, mohammedan"
Sweeeeeeet. Can we get started already?
The Bible gives evidence of its truthfulness in that the actors as seen, warts and all. King David, Solomon, and Abraham all messed themselves up by indulging in polygamy. The references to it in the Scriptures are actually a cautionary tale!
Thanks by to God, one day the Divine Liturgy will be heard again in Hagia Sophia...
By the way, Christianity teaches that each generation must be converted; one isn't Christian merely by virtue of birth the Christians. I myself began following Jesus at age 17, and my family isn't Christian.
The problem with Islam from the point of view of a Christian (besides the obvious ones) is that it "immunizes" people from understanding Jesus, because of its false teachings about Him. That is my foremost problem with the Islamic system, which is Satan's greatest achievement.
Heck there still are some states that refuse to put Jessica's law into effect. That alone tells me the sickness is swept under the rug in regards to children.
http://www.billoreilly.com/outragefunnels
And what is with letting these child rapists back out on the street with merely an ankle bracelet and a slap on the wrist? Yes this is condoning by far on how to treat children like meat. If these same sickos went around raping 100 men, things would be different.
God made Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, not multiple women. polygamy is disgusting and to support it is barbaric and tribal.
Frankly, I do not know why stanbulnotconstantinople is allowed to remain here.
He hijacks every thread that he comments on.
He is a typical Muslim troll. He begins by twisting the original post around, and then fires up the moral equivalency rockets, and by the time he's done, the point of the original post is completely lost, obscured by his moral equivalency finger-pointing and deflections.
This particular post is supposed to be about polygamy and child marriage sneaking its way into America via sharia law.
And somehow, we wound up debating this time-stealing, deflecting troll on things such as if Christianity was spread by the sword and talking about what some past Catholic pope said or didn't say that is in line with whatever some other Catholic pope said.
Ridiculous. I understand that the JW/DW moderators basically have a hands-off policy which allows the troll to hang himself with his own rope, but really, istanbulnotconstantinople's multiple deflective posts wind up completely obscuring the entire point of the ORIGINAL post, and it's got to stop. You all post here on JW/DW to educate and bring certain matters to light, and that message is being lost everytime you allow this troll to hijack a thread in the way he always does. I believe it is his intention to do exactly this... the more offensive, damaging, and incriminating the original post is to Islam, the more this guy is going to act up to hijack the entire thread to deflect attention away from the original message.
Please, next time, handle the problem and don't allow him to blow this smokescreen all over and obscure the message.
JenBee - well said.
You hit the nail on the head with this: "the more offensive, damaging, and incriminating the original post is to Islam, the more this guy is going to act up to hijack the entire thread to deflect attention away from the original message."
And bearing that in mind, lets start keeping careful tabs on which threads at jihadwatch and dhimmiwatch provoke the most Mohammedan Troll activity.
It's not only coming--it's here. I live in Brooklyn, and there are polygamous "families" on our block--the women look like they have post-traumatic stress syndrome, and it's a good bet that there's abuse going on. Some of them are very young, too. funny how there's no raiding here.
Between being spit on (not sure if it's because I'm Jewish, American, or have a dog--they seem to hate all equally) cursed out (kalabna is one of my favorites)and the intrusive recorded muezzins that seem to be cranked up louder and louder (exempted as they are from noise ordinances in the PC city) you could just about be in Saudi Arabia--no, wait, no Jews there.
duvimom,
Polygamy was never good for women anyways. Just look at what happened to Abraham and Sarah when they had gotten Hagar involed in having her have a baby, which would be Ishrmael and all the problems it created. The Bible in its own way with what happened showed the dangers of polygamy.
Just a couple of verses about what is written in the bible about marriage:
When asked about marriage and divorce, Jesus said, "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." [Matthew 19:4-6; see also Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:24; Ephesians 5:31]
God made Adam, but said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make A helper suitable for him." [Genesis 2:18]
Each man should have his own wife (singular word), and each woman her own husband (singular word). [I Corinthians 7:2]
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well." [I Timothy 3:12]
When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, "Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us," 15 be sure to appoint over you the king the LORD your God chooses. He must be from among your own brothers. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not a brother Israelite. 16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the LORD has told you, "You are not to go back that way again." 17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
(Deuteronomy 17 14-17)
The last vs was from Moses in reference to King Solomon who would come in the future.
God does NOT condone all of the things that people do. King David was an adulterer and a murderer. Keep reading and find out how these great men fell because they followed their evil desires instead of God's law.
The Bible does not and never condoned child brides. We are to protect the children, not prey upon them as does Islam.
The Bible reports on polygamy but you will never find anywhere in the Bible where it is condoned.
The actions of God were supported, supplied and written as 'one man/one woman'.
God says that it is best that a man never is with a woman, but if he cannot control his own flesh then he is to take a wife (singular).
To say that Soloman, David and Abraham practised polygamy and not see that it was polygamy that was their downfall is absolutly stupid. That is like saying Soloman, David, and Abraham put their hand in the fire, see so it is ok. Just because they did wrong does not make it right.
And to quote Martin Luther, which killed ten of thousands of Christians in his day does not make him a mentor on the subject of morals.
If you are going to quote the Bible then look at it, don't look to man that faulted the teachings of the Bible.