$8,000 richer
More suicidal lunacy from Britain: the sacred right to style hair even though one's own hair is not visible has been transgressed against, and the offender must pay for the Hurt Feelings of the hijabbed hairstylist.
Bushra Noah Update: "Muslim stylist wins £4,000 payout," from the BBC, June 16 (thanks to Twostellas):
The owner of a hair salon has been ordered to pay £4,000 compensation to a Muslim stylist who was turned down for a job because she wears a headscarf.Bushra Noah accused Sarah Desrosiers of religious discrimination when she failed to offer her a job at her Wedge salon in King's Cross, central London.
An employment tribunal panel dismissed the 19-year-old's claim but upheld her complaint of indirect discrimination.
Ms Desrosiers said she needed stylists to showcase alternative hairstyles.
During the hearing Ms Noah, who lives in Acton, west London, told the tribunal that she was "devastated" that she was not offered the job of assistant stylist "due to my headscarf"....
When the applicant arrived for the interview she claimed the Canadian salon owner was clearly shocked by the fact she wore a headscarf.
Ms Desrosiers told the tribunal she was surprised it had not been mentioned earlier and expected her staff to reflect the "funky, urban" image of her salon.
The panel found that Ms Noah had been badly upset by the 15-minute interview .
She was awarded £4,000 damages for "injury to feelings".
In its judgment, the panel stated: "We were satisfied by the respondent's evidence that the claimant was not treated less favourably than the respondent would have treated a woman who, whether Muslim or not, for a reason other than religious belief wears a hair covering at all times when at work."
It added: "There was no specific evidence before us as to what would (for sure) have been the actual impact of the claimant working in her salon with her head covered at all times."
Speaking after the ruling the salon owner said: "I never in a million years dreamt that somebody would be completely against the display of hair and be in this industry. I don't feel I deserve it."...
Indeed.
How much more will people take? When does this all end?
These stories are surreal, like bad dreams that are funny and unnerving all at once. Except this bad dream is apparently real.
And what is wrong with those non-muslims who aid muslims in these social subjugation ventures? How can they be so twisted? It's ultimately a suicidal impulse at work, and it desperately needs to stop or we all end up dead. If not literally, then culturally, socially and morally dead. And that's just as bad, if not worse.
There may be grounds for an appeal (even to the European Court of Human Rights) - but appeals are costly.
A great deal of Wahabbi money is floating around the UK (and other countries in the west) to promote Islamic values.
Now is the time for all small-businesspeople to band together in the face of a common threat. They should pool their resources to set up a fighting fund to tackle this problem. If they don't they deserve what they are going to get: Muslims presenting themselves at job interviews for any job available, demanding employment and suing for 'racial discrimination' and 'injured feelings' if they don't get it.
i hope she appleles and sues this musalima and i hope she can show the muslim does not do kufer hair
crazy crazy
I await to see the next article of a butcher who has to pay out because he didn't hire a mohammadean because they refused to deal with pork....
even now there could be lazy mohs applying for butcher jobs to get rejected and have an easy few bucks....
exposesithlords
Actually the UK unions "Won the right" some years ago for muslim workers - say in supermarkets - to refuse to handle pork.
I always thought this was a back door way of getting such "rights" into law. If there were an outcry when such a law was introduced they would say, "What’s the problems? We are only formalising something that has been accepted in society for years!"
This Noah creature looks about as funky and urban as Gordon Brown.
I didn't realise that damages could be awarded for injury to feelings. This story has injured my feelings. Where can I claim my £4000?
paying someone who wasn't going to fulfil the job descriptions is a mistake..next week she will send her sister in to apply.
Fred ~ that's the plan.
This is a bit ironic considering the article yesterday about hair salons being targeted.
This poor salon owner will be run out of business. Don't business owners get to decide who they hire anymore?
The panel refused an application by Mrs Noah for aggravated damages and rejected her claims that the episode had put her off hairdressing, finding that she applied for further salon jobs before deciding to retrain in tourism.
So, they proved she lied, but still awarded her money?
But they also concluded: "There was no specific evidence before us as to what would (for sure) have been the actual impact of the claimant working in her salon with her head covered at all times.
"We concluded that, on a critical and balanced assessment, the degree of risk, while real, should not be assumed to be as great at the respondent believed
So, they presume to tell her how they think her business would be impacted? Are they in her business line? And there was no evidence? Wouldn't you have to actually have something happen by hiring her first for there to BE actual evidence? Instead of the owners business sense?
How to avoid being sued by parasites:
1. Tape full interview.
2. Full standard interview plus ask the applicant if a prayer room is expected to be made available, if the applicant intends to wash ones feet in the sinks, can the applicant work with products that contain alcohol?
3. Thank applicant for their time, inform applicant that other applicants need to be interviewed and that applicants will be informed of outcome by post.
4. Send letter 2nd class post to failed applicant when post has been filled, thank them for their time and inform them that unfortunately on this occasion they were unsuccessful. (no tangible reasons to be given )
5. No further correspondence with failed applicant.
6. Winning candidate came across well during their interview also had best personality and attitude.
Fred:'Actually the UK unions "Won the right" some years ago for muslim workers - say in supermarkets - to refuse to handle pork.'
I take it that non-muslim workers are not accorded the equal right to refuse to handle halal meat?
Mrs Noah?
I thought that it was Dr Noah from Casino Royale, 1967 version, fame.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the first lawsuit from a muslim actress who gets turned down because she doesn't get the role because she is wearing a hijab.
Joshua said:
"I take it that non-muslim workers are not accorded the equal right to refuse to handle halal meat?"
They would be correct.
The Kafr are also forced to eat food that has been cursed.
Parents say no to halal school dinners
A primary school which opted to serve only halal meat at lunch time has been accused of concealing the decision to provide Islamic compliant food from parents.
The Oxford primary school introduced halal meat to the school dinner menu in September last year as part of their inclusion policy, but failed to inform parents of the move until December. Parents at the school are now petitioning for an end to halal only meals.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3160175.ece
What a sorry, pathetic state Britain has put itself into. This is just another in the very many small, but culturally significant examples that together suggest they have passed the point of no return.
This once great society has killed itself.
voltaire~ Not a lawsuit yet but complaint. Of course the BBC is sympathetic. Not so the commentors.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4964222.stm
Next you'll see the headline:
"Hooters to pay $25K to Burqa'ed Babe(?) who refused to wear uniform due to religious reasons"
But wait ... I thought you had to have long hair if you're a Muslimah. If she did that, and refused to cut hair, how could her "job" be impacted?
Oh wait ... I'm thinking logically again. Silly me.
how disguting
I was waiting to see how this story would end.
Now I know.
"More suicidal lunacy from Britain" --RS
Boy, is that right.
I'm still trying to grasp the TV episode in which a Muslim is beheaded by a Christian!
Britain has become its own worst enemy.
She was awarded £4,000 damages for "injury to feelings".
My God! Unbelievable. Look at that smug expression on the hijabed-one's face. Totally smug.
I too was waiting to hear the end of the story. Silly me, I thought sanity would rule and the muslima's complaint would be thrown out of court.
That smug little smirk.
These stories are surreal --Tapper
Oh yeah. It's hard to accept that they are reality.
Very, very hard.
"There was no specific evidence before us as to what would (for sure) have been the actual impact of the claimant working in her salon with her head covered at all times."
Well here's a clue: No, thanks--I'll wait for one of the stylists who has visible hair. Oh, they're all booked for today? Okay, I'll try another salon.
For the time being, the consumer still has the right not to buy what he doesn't want. That doesn't help Sarah Desrosiers, but it deprives the little Muslimah of some of her power.
ImNoDhimmi,
You beat me to it. I was going to say, "Dig that smirk!"
That cannot be! Is that british judge crazy?
But that's the end of our free capitalist world. It is pure socialism, if they dictate things like that. Because a normal woman would never go to a hair stylist like that. So they force things like that upon us. I closed my business these days, so I won't be obliged to deal with moslems. And last week I met one moslem customer, who told me, his son would want to come to me. I was so happy to be able to say him - very politely, all big smile - that I am not in the business anymore, because I closed it and now I do criticise the Islam.
I wish that more people would speak out like that: free and frank.
"That cannot be! Is that british judge crazy?"
How 'bout, "Is Britain crazy?"
As I've posted before, when I inquired of my British acquaintance who lives in London, "What's your opinion of Londonistan?, he replied, "What's that? An American notion?"
However, as more and more of Britain becomes Islamified, I believe that one day he'll remember my question and feel like a total fool. But, then it will be too late.
She is an obvious scam artist. OBVIOUS. If you know the UK, it is full of Muslim hairdressers for Muslim women - wealthy Muslim women even like chic and modern hairstyles to show off back in the harem.
"and now I do criticise the Islam." --Kybeline
"the islam?" You sound like John McCain!
Well, it's fortunate you could close your business without, I assume, financial repercussions. But many people will not be able to do that, and will suffer like Sarah Desrosiers.
"Injury to feelings"?!
You have got to be kidding me. What is wrong with these fools?
There's that word again. One of my favorite movie lines, "Deserving's got nothin to do with it" ("Unforgiven" by Clint Eastwood).
You bet it's socialism, Kybeline.
The reds found openings in the free societies (compassion for "hurt feelings" in this case) and moved in to legislate away people's rights. The judge is not crazy, just putting food on the table, i am sure. You'll find me arguing this on many threads here -- no, not craziness, just self interest. Maybe self-destructive, short sighted self interest. Its important to understand how they think, not dismiss as crazy.
"Injury to feelings"?!
You have got to be kidding me. What is wrong with these fools?
Posted by: Mo at June 17, 2008 10:01 AM
My husband offered that in the U.S. "injury to feelings" would be called "Discrimination."
Anyone know if that's correct? If this same situation happens here, which it probably will, and probably sooner than later, the Mohammedan Complainant will win on grounds of "Discrimination." Is that right? Or, is "Injury to feelings" a completely different animal?
Darcy Forecast: Somewhere in the USA, a hair salon and it's owner awaits this same situation at some time. Not too far off.
O you cruel kuffars.
Let her have her 15 mins of fame in the salon before she gets married. After that she'll be a slave to whomever cousin or relative her parent have chosen for her as her husband. Whatever is left of the 4000 will be used by the husband in the pursuit of a second hand possession while she slaves at the house. She'll probably have to leave whatever job she may have outside the house.
She will only have dreams of her short life on the kuffar world while suffering is the slavish world of her husband whims.
darcy
"As I've posted before, when I inquired of my British acquaintance who lives in London, "What's your opinion of Londonistan?, he replied, "What's that? An American notion?"
That is because at local and national level the censorship is ferocious. Local papers publishing anything that challenges “Our rich diverse multicultural society” are threatened with boycotts while nationally respected journalists are warned off by being denounced in Parliament as quote; “Semi-fascist”
You have to live in or near a muslim enclave to see what is going on. I lived within 2 miles of one for 20 years and saw nothing until my job took me INTO a 98% muslim area. Even so my brother lives in a 99% British suburb and is a fully paid up liberal. He becomes very angry at any suggestion that muslim bombers are not “A tiny minority of extremists”. He shouts that the whole anti muslim thing is just the old Nazi’s tactic of demonising harmless hard working people.
BTW This was not a Court matter but the work of an appointed panel of "Advisors" (Thought police?)
Let's see thats $8000 dollars times 1.2 billion other muslim hurt feelings. The west clearly cannot afford to hurt muslim feelings. That's one huge jizya payment. Muslim feelings have a cash redemption value. Infidel hurt feelings are deserved, and have no monetary value.
Injury to feelings is a two-way street. The salon owner was "shocked" means she was threatened by this adherent to 9/11 theology, she was in fear of the coercion that is manifested in the hijab--as we witness the multitudes of secular Turks protesting against creeping Sharia--and is scared that this hegemonic religion of deceit and "submission" to the dictates of sinister imams is taking away her progressive culture.
http://www.bravenewsworld.blogspot.com
Uh-oh; my handy-dandy smug Muslim whiner-bullshit artist detector just pegged. Again.
"Even so my brother lives in a 99% British suburb and is a fully paid up liberal. He becomes very angry at any suggestion that muslim bombers are not “A tiny minority of extremists”. He shouts that the whole anti muslim thing is just the old Nazi’s tactic of demonising harmless hard working people." -Fred
Hi Fred, I have a brother like that, too. We just don't speak about Islam - a closed subject. These people eat Propaganda for breakfast.
Concerning my "Forecast" - I don't gamble, but I would place a bet that CAIR sees this and sets up a USA copycat. Yes, I would place money on that.
Also, I called up the owner of the hair salon I go to and apprised her of this article on Dhimmi Watch. She has been to JW but not yet to DW. I had to explain what a "Dhimmi" was. She's going to DW today.
Were there any Muslims on this 'appointed' panel of 'advisors'?
I hear over 40% of BBC employees are Muslim.
Infiltration.
What is it that feeds "islamophobia" again?
"Injury to feelings"?!?
I got my upperleft-happiness broken once at a job interview. Also my self-confidence was severly brused.
But since I'm an atheïst, and don't have specific cultural or religious biased principles that are to be respected by others, I'll probebly have little chance to get compensation for my 'injured feelings'.
Even though I can proof that the rejection was based on discrimination and racism (I have hay-fever).
(Not to mention all those times I was injured by the rejection from girls based on discriminating and racist arguements.)
It is likely that Sarah Desrosiers does not have the wherewithal to appeal the case, but some group should think about bankrolling her. It is more important to go after the idiotic handers-down of this idiotic decision, and to prevent this Bushra Noah creature -- see the rebarbative picture above -- from keeping the 4,000 pounds she was awarded. And above all, it is necessary to appeal so that the case, in all its full idiocy, can continue to outrage the long-suffering British public, that should be turning on its elites, on the BBC, on The Guardian, on its political leaders who allowed these people into the country thinking they may have the usual problems immigrants may experience in adopting to a different language and culture, but had no idea, and were to lazy to find out -- what Islam was all about, what this far-more-than-a-religion Total Belief-System meant, and meant not so much for Muslims as for those innnocent Infidels among whom they came to live, and among whom they have now settled, creating -- and permanently -- a situation that for Infidels all over the countries of Western Europe is far more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous than it would be without such a large-scale Muslim presence.
This intolerable decision, the diseased fruit of these nearly-insane-Daniels-come-to-judgement-in-reverse, must be appealed.
Oh poor little thing it must have been a horrific experience to feel uncomfortable, I’ve heard it can take several minutes to come over such things.
It must be a real obstacle in life to be so thin-skinned, her life-long dream down the drain all due to an evil islamphobic hairstylist employer. Doubt if she really is the Right Stuff for the travel and tourism industry.
Oh poor little thing, badly upset, can one really recover from these kind of traumas, will be chronically, a life long suffering, can any money really compensate.
Of course breaking mandatory law and regulations and leaving an probably islamophobic blind person out in the dark and cold is noting that can be comparable to a muslims feelings and make them uncomfortable. Wasn’t the cab drivers “penalty” a little stiff, probably a racist judge.
"Speaking after the ruling the salon owner said: "I never in a million years dreamt that somebody would be completely against the display of hair and be in this industry.""
In my parents' city, which has a substantial Muslim minority, I had my hair cut a few years ago at a very nice, new salon. The salon owner was from Iran, I believe, but dressed completely in stylish Western clothing and--as one would expect from a salon owner--in full makeup and with perfectly coiffed hair. What shocked me was that she had a younger relative working in the salon as well who was swathed in black from head to toe--even her hands were covered in black gloves. (She did not wear a niqab, at least.) She wore not even a trace of makeup.
I asked the stylist who was cutting my hair if the employee in hijab made any customers feel uncomfortable. "Yes," she said, "and I'm sure we've lost a lot of repeat customers." She also said two talented stylists had recently left the salon in part, she felt, because of their discomfort with the employee in hijab. (They were gay men--wonder if that had anything to do with it? Perhaps they felt judged.)
I've never gone back to that salon, in large part because the hijab-wearing employee was quite rude as she was ringing me up afterward, although I was polite to her. (Could she have anything but contempt, I wondered, for women paying for frivolities such as hairstyling, makeup, etc?)
In any case, while I believe women living here have the right to dress as they like, it is very offputting to see someone cloaked in 7th-century Arabian garb in a beauty salon. To make a comparison, I have nothing against overweight people, but I would be surprised to be waited on by an obese person at, say, a health food store!
Jeez, hijab or not, her innate ugliness should be grounds enough not to hire her in the beauty trade.
I know this is probably unfair to the ‘allah’s superior ones’ but, hijab or no hijab, as anyone else ever wondered why muslimah often seem so nasty ugly? That hag, Mrs. Noah, has got a ‘beak’ that would put Macbeth’s witches to shame and thus frighten away potential hair appointments.
Hopefully, this treasonous, insane decision will be appealed successfully, but in the unfortunate case it isn't, I hope that this ugly Muslim spends a fraction of her $8,000 of jizya on eyebrow tweezers, or, better yet, a full burqa, so that we don't have to look at her depressingly ugly and smug physionogmy, or better yet, a one-way ticket to Riyadh.
Here's Sarah Desrosier's My Space page. Perhaps she'd appreciate some support.
profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=89764964 - 139k -
In its judgement, the panel stated: "We were satisfied by the respondent's evidence that the claimant was not treated less favourably than the respondent would have treated a woman who, whether Muslim or not, for a reason other than religious belief wears a hair covering at all times when at work."
But they awarded her £4000 for being a muslim anyway.
Welcome to my ignorant country. So desperate is our government to garner the muslim vote they are allowing them to dictate how we live. This ruling will open the flood gates to all muslims like this woman who use their religion to play the victim card in order to wage jihad against the kuffar.
However, this is making people wake up to the threat that Islam poses to our country. More and more people are beginning to realise that this is what Islam does. They are learning that the government will lie to them about the "religion of peace", they are learning that muslims do not, and will not follow the same rules as we do. They are the racists, the bigots and the intolerant.
Some muslims say that they are "being treated like the jews in nazi Germany". The muslims who use this disingenuous argument know it's a lie and they use the argument to further their cause of islamification of the UK.
The irony is that they are going to bring this treatment on themselves. People will boycott their businesses and refuse to employ them.
How many hairdressers and businesses will now think twice before employing a muslim? They won't do it obviously as they know they will be sued. They will offer interviews and then choose a better candidate.
Take heart, the wind is changing and cases like this can only work in our favour. Britain isn't done yet. History shows we take a long time to wake up to extremist threats posed to our country (like the Nazis) but when it does we will fight to protect what we have and what the undeserving want to take.
Cases like this, if they are allowed to continue will only make more people disgusted with islam. Just think of all the regular customers of this salon that are outraged let alone the people worldwide reading about it. This kind of thing is happening everywhere in the West. This is just the non violent muslims way of doing thier part in the worldwide jihad. Most likely coached by thier local mosques or thier husbands. It is working for them. Its a win win situation. The more people they piss off, the more they can cry Islamaphobia! Lord help us!!
Sarah Desrosiers was taken by surprise.
Those who want to do something about this dreadful situation should get organised.
We should set up a fighting fund to challenge these cases and get some expert legal help.
What do the Federation of Small Businesses have to say about this?
Um this woemn has no fashion sense .
What shocked me was that she had a younger relative working in the salon as well who was swathed in black from head to toe--even her hands were covered in black gloves. --kaffirchick
If I was confronted with that situation, I would tell the owner, "Sorry, but I have to make new arrangements. I don't patronize a place with Barbarian employees."
End of story.
Here we go---It is now officially in America-Only lets see how this plays out
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368143,00.html
johndoe
"Were there any Muslims on this 'appointed' panel of 'advisors'?"
Not necessary, the people doing these jobs are selected for their commitment to our rich diverse multi cultural society.
"I hear over 40% of BBC employees are Muslim."
Nothing like 40% but they have had a big push in a last four years to employ more minorities. They had a director general called Greg Dyke and before he was fired from running programmes claiming the Iraq war was illegal he described the BBC’s staff as “Hideously white”.
As a result Muslims and other minorities are very noticable on television in all sorts of programmes. Women are particularly well represented and they all wear modern Western dress so no hijabs – yet?
I find one aspect of this determination quite amusing. The BBC's main “serious” station is Radio 4 and in the last year it has employed an announcer with a heavy West Indian accent. There are plenty of educated black British people with regular British accents who could have done the job but they obviously wanted someone with an accent that announced to the world “This chap is black and we are multicultural”.
Second thoughts.
A neighbours daughter was a highly qualified beauty therapist and got job interviews with the top city salons but never got the job. She was shall we say rather plain with no figure worth noticing and so no advertisement for her craft. I wonder if she could/should have sued?
Amazing, so some poor woman, who has committed no crime other than to attempt to run a business has to pay £4000 to this Third World Muppet.
In the next breath the half wits the democracies have taken to voting in to lead them, will be facing the camera with a puzzled look on their face, saying with earnest gravitas, that they don't understand why people are voting for the BNP, or other far right organisations. Incredible, that my country should fall to this.
I'm going to apply for a job as an Imam in a mosque, despite having liberal values and thinking homosexuality is fine, and women should be treated as men's equals. My feeling would be very hurt if they turned me down, but I bet I won't get any compensation, why is that do you suppose?
Incredible. The Brits are losing their colletive freaking mind. The country that thumbed its nose at Adolph Hitler and his Nazis is slowly going down the toilet.
Winston Churchill must be spinning in his grave right about now.
This woman can make a career out of applying for work for which she is neither qualified nor suited for. How much compensation, I wonder, can she get for not being hired as a dancer in a strip club?
Fred & darcy ~ maybe you should take your brother on a short walking tour through the muslim part of town? Maybe wearing a St. George flag shirt.
Borg
He might be a dyed in the wool multicultural pinko liberal but he is still my brother and I don't want to lose him.
Borg,
Fred lives in London.
I live in the U.S. And Thank God, my hamlet doesn't have a "muslim part of town." Not yet, anyway. Otherwise, I would have probably already been killed for sporting a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker on my vehicle. I daresay such a bumper sticker is a total no-no in Londonistan. Unless you want to meet your Maker sooner than later.
Ms Desrosiers hair salon:
www.wedgehair.co.uk/Launch Party
You stupid Poms, for how long you going to take bullshit. This was nothing but a get rich quick scheme. As a muslima she can not work with any products that contains alcohol or non halal ingredients. On top of that she woul have demanded a prayer room, squatting toilet that doe not face Mecca, 3x 30 min prayer time(paid of courese) and the right to refuse to serve kufirs.
This is the silent, financial jihad. Next comes sharia law.
I cringe at the shepherds check suitcoat this woman wears... Just goes to show that having rejected its fertility, the west offers MUCH to those willing to come in and take our place... It is rather like automobiles now-dead retirees hardly drove with über-low mileage...
We didn't use our patrimony - come take it.
Quit treating your sexuality like a fuck-a-thon, WEST, and have stable homes and fertile relations or pay the consequences.
Their is a reason Muhammed is the most popular name in London among newborns these days.
Guess who is having the babies!
I cringe at the shepherds check suitcoat this woman wears... Just goes to show that having rejected its fertility, the west offers MUCH to those willing to come in and take our place... It is rather like automobiles now-dead retirees hardly drove with über-low mileage...
We didn't use our patrimony - come take it.
Quit treating your sexuality like a fuck-a-thon, WEST, and have stable homes and fertile relations or pay the consequences.
Their is a reason Muhammed is the most popular name in London among newborns these days.
Guess who is having the babies!
I cringe at the shepherds check suitcoat this woman wears... Just goes to show that having rejected its fertility, the west offers MUCH to those willing to come in and take our place... It is rather like automobiles now-dead retirees hardly drove with über-low mileage...
We didn't use our patrimony - come take it.
Quit treating your sexuality like a fuck-a-thon, WEST, and have stable homes and fertile relations or pay the consequences.
Their is a reason Muhammed is the most popular name in London among newborns these days.
Guess who is having the babies!
I cringe at the shepherds check suitcoat this woman wears... Just goes to show that having rejected its fertility, the west offers MUCH to those willing to come in and take our place... It is rather like automobiles now-dead retirees hardly drove with über-low mileage...
We didn't use our patrimony - come take it.
Quit treating your sexuality like a fuck-a-thon, WEST, and have stable homes and fertile relations or pay the consequences.
Their is a reason Muhammed is the most popular name in London among newborns these days.
Guess who is having the babies!
I cringe at the shepherds check suitcoat this woman wears... --posted above
Why, exactly? Is it tacky? The scarf doesn't match at all. Most of all I cringe at the simpering smug expression she's wearing...
simplesinner
even if Western women had babies at the rate Amishwomen do, Muslims would still outbreed us.
We CANNOT do to our women what they do. Check out Yemen. Yeah, sure, it has one of the world's highest fertility rates...because half their girls are married off at under-fifteen and have a baby every year till they're fifty (unless, of course, they die in childbirth first...as many of them do).
And all the women are married off whether they want to be or not (even in the Middle Ages, western men and western women did not HAVE to be married and breed - they could choose to live a single life, enter a monastery, be educated, compose music and paint pictures as Hildegard of Bingen did).
Centuries before the era of contraceptives and easy divorce and abortion, the Muslim hordes annihilated the intensely religious, fertile, family-friendly societies of Hindu India and Christian North Africa and came damn close to destroying Christian western Europe. I don't think Byzantium in 1453 was an MTV society, or a 'f***-a-thon'. Nor was Vienna in 1683, in a Europe that was agonising its way through the Reformation and Counter-Reformation.
What solution do you propose?
But first, BTW, if you think Mohammedanism promotes 'stable homes and fertile relations', and you think that it therefore might be preferable to, or superior to, 'the West': go read V S Naipaul and Phyllis Chesler and Nonie Darwish and Wafa Sultan. Reflect on the shocking number of girls and women who are obliterated every year, in every Mohammedan community, by 'honor' murders (sharia killings), often on the basis of the flimsiest of rumours; have a little think about the horrendous psychological fallout from talaq divorce and polygamy, among both women and the children that they bear. Go find out about the rates of incest and child abuse in Arabised Islamised societies, not to mention wife beating. Sure they produce a lot of kids - and then they program them with stuff that poisons and stunts and kills their souls.
I'll take Britney Spears warbling a pop song, any day, over an imam chanting Surah 9:5, or earnestly explaining the niceties of beating your wife so it doesn't show.
How do you propose we outbreed the Muslims? Forbid women to be educated past year 7 (hell, don't waste money on educating them at all)? Every girl aged 12 MUST be married off and bred immediately and keep on breeding till she reaches menopause or dies, whichever happens first? Ban all contraception, even that which is judiciously employed by married couples to space their babies more than a year apart - gotta keep pushing out those babies, one every year? Free up lots of angry young men for war, but still keep the birthrate high, by lifting the ban on monogamy?
The West is not as bad as you think it is; and even as bad as it presently is I still prefer it to the Islamosphere.
The 'decadent' West has been written off many times before, but retains - unlike rigid, totaitarian, inflexible Islam - the capacity to change, to grow, to renew itself, to surprise. (See G K Chesterton, "TheEverlasting Man", the chapter entitled, 'The Five Deaths of the Faith').
I wonder what sort of compensation she would have got if she had been turned down for a job as a stripper
Maybe Noah can be paid in 4000 pounds' worth of haircare. Does it have to be cash?
Unbelievable verdict!!
So why would the modest Noah want to work with these girls and clients that dress like “whores” and “sluts” and expose all kinds of awrah and are anything but “modest”? She would have had to style, punks, gays, bisexuals and even maybe a transsexual and so on.
How come Noah decided to target this salon a salon bent to be trendy and “cool”? Almost certainly the one with staff and customer bent that was the most opposite to her own approach and religious modest preferences.
Outline of the story in Daily Mail, well worth reading and good images.
How I nearly lost my business after refusing to hire a Muslim hair stylist who wouldn't show her hair
Some cuts:
Oh, great.
Does this mean I'll be sued for not hiring that muslim to work in my Christian bookstore?
pop_culture_brat:
Does this mean I'll be sued for not hiring that muslim to work in my Christian bookstore?
Isn’t that at bit offensive, maybe even islamophobic, to call a bookstore Christian? Guess already there is a case to sue you for hate crime. By the way do you display crosses, bibles or other offensive, to muslims, symbols?
"Here we go---It is now officially in America-Only lets see how this plays out"
Posted by: Ladywolfnl
I'm not sure this Mainstream Muslim is going to win this one.
Disney does, in fact, have image standards which their employees, the ones who work in the park, must fit, and they've had them for as long as I can remember. That's a pretty long time, as my father was one of the carpenters who worked construction on the place.
No moustaches, no beards, no overweight people, no earrings, no necklaces, no bracelets, no visible tattoos, no unusual piercings (tongue studs, eyebrow rings, nose studs, etc.) and probably a few things I don't recall. The point is, anyone who will be seen in the park must fit a specific "look".
Now, if one doesn't want to work in the park proper, the rules are different. Behind the scenes rules for appearance are relaxed.
"More suicidal lunacy from Britain: the sacred right to style hair even though one's own hair is not visible has been transgressed against, and the offender must pay for the Hurt Feelings of the hijabbed hairstylist."
So does that mean Bald hairdressers should be banned?
Why do customers have to see the hair of the person who's cutting theirs? After all that hairdresser didnt cut their own hair so that the customer can used that to see how good their work is!
dumbledoresarmy
Fully agree w/ you. Altering our societies in the image of those troglodytes is only going to hurt us, even if one accepts the point about infidelettes needing to be more of the married barefoot and pregnant types.
I like carpadiem's idea the best - give her a store coupon which only Bushra can use - no sisters, cousins, wives-in-law, et al. That way, Sarah doesn't have to appeal the decision, but if Bushra's feelings get hurt again, it's she who'll have to take the matter back to court, not Sarah.
Oh, and Bushra doesn't get the hair styling unless she removes that head-shroud.
istanbulnotconstantinople
Two things:
Oh, and they would presumably be fixing each others hair, and setting up the live ad.
So why would the modest Noah want to work with these girls and clients that dress like “whores” and “sluts” and expose all kinds of awrah and are anything but “modest”? She would have had to style, punks, gays, bisexuals and even maybe a transsexual and so on.
How come Noah decided to target this salon a salon bent to be trendy and “cool”? Almost certainly the one with staff and customer bent that was the most opposite to her own approach and religious modest preferences.
Posted by: Engelbrekt at June 18, 2008 7:59 AM
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She targeted this salon because she wanted to force them to change and adopt muslim rules and regulations. Because she KNEW that the stupid dhimmi courts in London would force the Wedge to accomodate her.
Why do customers have to see the hair of the person who's cutting theirs? After all that hairdresser didnt cut their own hair so that the customer can used that to see how good their work is!
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 18, 2008 6:39 PM
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Hey, Mr. ------Constantinople: Why is it anybody's business if Sarah wants the hairdressers to display different hair styles? If she, the owner of the business, chooses to make that a requirement for her hairstylists, then it is nobody's business -- not yours, not mine, especially not the governments.
Since you're such a fair-minded guy, I know that you'll agree with me on that point!
After all that hairdresser didnt cut their own hair so that the customer can used that to see how good their work is!
Posted by: istanbulnotconstantinople at June 18, 2008 6:39 PM
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Mr. ------Constantinople, one more thing: I know barbers who cut their own hair. What makes you think that the hairdresser doesn't do her own hair? Plenty of women do their own hair.
Here's a really obvious point that, again, I know a reasonable guy like yourself will agree with: MAYBE THE HAIRDRESSERS DO EACH OTHER'S HAIR!! In that way, they REALLY DO show off their own work!
Why is this so difficult for you, Mr. ------Constantinople?
One have a hard time understand those brits, a 10 minute chat about a potential new junior part time assistant position that the person never was even contemplated for much less promised any employment reward an $8000 penalty for the employer (an one person business). But a big company that sack a buss driver due to him stand for a political party in an local election, he had never had a complaint made about his duty, is not rewarding any reprimand from the Employment Tribunal.
Insane verdict.
"Since the judgment, Bushra, who is of Syrian descent and has worn a headscarf since she was 13, has, so far at least, chosen not to comment.
But, speaking last year, she admitted she had attended 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success.
But Sarah, she told the tribunal, had upset her the most."
My question is why wasn't the other 25 establishments the musliminah interviewed at raked over the coals like Ms. Desrosiers has been? It sounds like all the other interviews caused her 'hurt feelings', too, so what gives?
Be sure to read the user comments posted at the following web site:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23420076-details/Hairdresser%20is%20sued%20for%20refusing%20a%20job%20to%20woman%20in%20a%20headscarf/article.do?expand=true
Sarah Desrosiers has a growing clientele as a result of the little muslima and her depraved game. Muslima's plan is backfiring, because Sarah will make far more than $8000 just off of the outraged Brits (and Americans) who are now going out of their way to visit her shop!
Go Sarah!
Rick wrote:
But, speaking last year, she admitted she had attended 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success.
But Sarah, she told the tribunal, had upset her the most."
My question is why wasn't the other 25 establishments the musliminah interviewed at raked over the coals like Ms. Desrosiers has been? It sounds like all the other interviews caused her 'hurt feelings', too, so what gives?
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I think it's because the other salons avoided mentioning the headscarf--even though I'm sure that was the first sign of Bushra's unsuitability for all of them. I'm sure in many cases the salons either did not contact her at all, or else blandly noted that they had hired someone else.
It was at least in part because Sarah Desrosiers was nice enough to give her an interview (because Bushra sounded so desparate), and tried to take her seriously even after she showed up in full hijab. That Desrosiers asked Bushra if she always wore her hijab was probably her downfall, in the current insane climate.
I also wonder about the alleged fervent nature of Bushra's "lifelong dream" of cutting hair. I never heard that she had any sort of training. Here in the US only a few shops actually train their own hair stylists--I think I read that the huge discount haircutting chain Supercuts trains their own barbers, but this is rare.
Most aspiring stylists go to a barber college, or beauty or cosmotology school. I doubt it is very different in the UK. That a person would try to get hired at any salon without any training seems rather unrealistic--that they would expect to be hired by a very chic, trendy salon seems questionable. Was Bushra just naive, or did she hope that one of her interviewers would be impolitic enough to mention her hijab?
Person of the Book wrote:
Sarah Desrosiers has a growing clientele as a result of the little muslima and her depraved game. Muslima's plan is backfiring, because Sarah will make far more than $8000 just off of the outraged Brits (and Americans) who are now going out of their way to visit her shop!
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I'm so glad to hear this! I'd visit Wedge myself if I was on that side on the pond.
I think I read that the huge discount haircutting chain Supercuts trains their own barbers
This is true. Not only has Supercuts told me that, but EVERY Supercuts at which I have gotten my hair cut has given me a consistently good haircut.
Can't wait to visit the Wedge! I wonder how I'd look with an "edgy" haircut? In all honesty, I'd be proud to have a Wedge haircut!
Look at the Wedge Salon:
http://www.wedgehair.co.uk/Pages/Gallery.html
Be sure to click on all five numbers, to see all of the pictures.
How in the world did little Muslima think she would fit in there? Why would she want to be there?
Possible reasons:
-Sour grapes
-A chip on her shoulder
-Thinking she is better than everyone else
Maybe she is trying to force Islam down their throats, and put herself in charge of the business in the process.
We've seen Muslima's way of perhaps trying to win converts to Islam. Let's compare that to the way a Christian might try to win some converts to Christianity. Here's some things the Christian might do:
-Stop by and ask how they are doing today.
-Spend some money there, in order to be a blessing to the owner of the business.
-Slip a Gospel tract quietly to the owner.
The owner might actually believe that it's worth considering Christianity, because of the love shown by the Christian.
I doubt, however, that Muslima's approach will win her very many converts. That's why Muslims have to intimidate you and stick a knife in your back in order to get you to convert.