No surprise here -- except for those who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and that Islam has no political or societal character or agenda. "Muslim children in Britain 'brought up to hate their homeland,'" by Duncan Gardham for the Telegraph, June 11 (thanks to News4U):
Radical British Muslims have formed chatrooms to discuss adopting orphans and bringing up children to be Islamic fighters, a study has found.Discussions on a number of radical websites have asked how children should be brought up to be "mujahideen" and whether they should be pulled out of mainstream schools.
Other participants boast of how their children threaten to kill "kuffar" [non-believers] and complain that the Shakespeare being taught in schools is "full of homosexuality, fornication and adultery."
The Centre for Social Cohesion says radical Muslims are using the internet to create a "virtual Islamic caliphate" and calls on the government to launch a crack down.
According to the Centre for Social Cohesion, a think tank which has been monitoring radical websites, users of a site called www.islambase.co.uk discussed the possibility of adopting children and bringing them up on May 3 this year.
The site, which is based at a post office box in Glasgow and protected by a password, is used by the followers of the radical preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed, who lived in North London until he fled to the Lebanon in 2005.
"Hamza", one visitor to the site on 23 March this year, wrote about a friend's account of what his nine-year-old son, Rashid, had told him he would say if his father was killed by the kuffar [non-believers].
He said the boy told him: "I don't care if you kill me cause I'm not afraid of you or to die for Allah, and I'll have a lot of wives in jennah [heaven] insha allah and I'll be with my dad in jennah too and we will have fun doing what we want there if Allah lets us.
"Don't kill my dad or you will be in trouble with me, I swear by Allah."
One reader, 'Mujahidinbeeston', the area of Leeds where the July 7 bombers came from, responded to the post by writing: "Mashallah [thanks be to god]...We could all learn something from the behaviour of children sometimes!! They sometimes say things so basic and plain, that when contemplated, makes so much sense!"...
Yeah, kids say the darndest things!
Read it all.
Britain and so many continental European nations let the cancer in which is Islam. Now it's metastasizing.
That's rich. Perverted neanderthals criticizing Shakespeare.
Is nothing sacred?
Now, where would a Mohamedan child get the idea that it is a good thing to have a lot of wives?
Anyway, it's just an isolated incident. Back to sleep, UK!
Is it too much to ask for that the police might be monitoring sites like that and be gearing up to permanently deport these toerags?
Thought so.
Could Edward Said be one of those who paved the way for the stealth Jihad?
I only say that as an excuse for this off-topic interjection:
"The book that shook us:-
Orientalism at 30: Edward Said's critique sought to show how western attitudes towards 'the Orient' had been shaped by imperialism. Maya Jasanoff is the first in our series of writers asking if his ideas are still relevant three decades on."
This is the starting pistol for a debate at the Guardian, here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/13/middleeast.israelandthepalestinians?commentpage=1
Who wants to join in?
No scratching or gouging.
If American school children only knew how much homosexuality, fornication, and adultery was in Shakespeare, they might be inclined to read some.
I personally prefer the Old Testament for my daily dose of kinky shenanigans, fornication and adultery. Is the qu-ran as choc a' block with hot content?
If ever there was a case for banning Muslim immigration, it's this.
The Labour Government with their cronies in Common Purpose (find out more about them here if you have a couple of hours spare http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=187314750971510938) have perpetrated a heinous crime against the British people by encouraging this kind of treachery, whilst simultaneously denouncing (and even legislating against) any criticism of the vipers we clutch to our bosom.
Indeed they continue to let them in by the thousands. There will be blood on the streets before long.
Something wrong with that URL - Common Purpose videos here:
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=brian+gerrish&sitesearch=#
"UK Muslim children taught to hate unbelievers and Britain itself"
The solution is simple enough: deport them from the country.
Why is anyone monitoring these sites, they're not going to do anything serious about the problem anyway.
At some point, you would think that even the Liberals have got to have the intellect to stand back and look at this as dangerous.
The laws are on the books in the U.K. to prosecute these people. They were the same laws that were passed to prosecute Christians. The fact that these laws are not being used shows the goverment discrimination against one religion and the goverment endorsement of another religion.
No doubt the Shakespeare objectors would be at odds with those who have attempted to co-opt Shakespeare for islam. Along with everyone else who ever lived naturally.
Robert has a nice article from a few years back,google: "Shakespeare the Muslim and the Collapse of the West."
alaskan1000: Your comment above about even liberals having to have enough intellect to discern Islamic dangers reminded me of the joke George Will told many years ago. It goes, what does the Lost Continent of Atlantis and the liberal mind have in common? Well, both have been rumored to exist but there's really no hard evidence for either.
Speaking for myself, I have ceased to be amazed at the lack of common sense and moral intelligence which liberals have exhibited to me time and time and time again. My best to you and yours.
Muslims are committing treason. They are openly and surreptitiously waging insurrection. What thay ate doint is a gteat and dite evil. But in the West we no longer believe in good and evil, and the notion that such a thing as treason exists is laughed at, and the concept that our nation should be defended against such high crimes is quaint at best, and thought to be insane by many. I hope we can regain our bearings before it's too late.
What does the Lost Continent of Atlantis and the "god" Allah have in common? Well, both have been rumored to exist but there's really no hard evidence for either.
Talk about putting the cart before the horse people! Never mind anything said or done in the name of Islam. What about the origin itself? The very heart of the matter - If their "god" bestows commands, where's the damn proof and hard evidence for Allah? If none can be found then every last word is up for ethical and moral debate. I won't live on my knees for Allah anymore than I would for any other unproven.
If they want to destroy us so badly and inflict this mental illness on their children, challenge them on the existence of their god...or wait until these born and bred fascists start killing by the millions. Digging up supposed proof in the Quran won't do. Hard, repeatable and provable evidence only. No faith, only fact. Are we too cowardly to face down the possibility that "Allah" does not and has never existed? Seriously.
Or...western civilization can doom itself by repeating history yet again get bloody for yet another cultural lie.
Nazis spoon fed their children crap once upon a time too. That turned out to be a real clearing house of evil.
Our political leaders are not stupid and can see exactly what is happening just as we can.
The problem is, they (our leaders) have no loyalty to the UK and within Europe generally, there is a clear indication that they want to destroy countries as independent sovereign states and replace them with some EU nightmare.
Presumably, they believe that the islamic monster they have created will help them in this goal.
In any event, they themselves will not suffer. They will always be able to live in whatever EU/Common Purpose enclave they choose.
Celsius,
Any political leaders in Europe or the US who think they will be allowed to live peacefully in an Islamized country are kidding themselves.
They may not be stupid but anyone who believes in the scenario you paint is being incredibly naive.
They are ignoring the lessons of history. Russia, France, China and many other places have seen revolution. How many wealthy citizens came through it unscathed? Where is there a history of Islam allowing the conquered to live in peace?
"I'll have a lot of wives in jennah [heaven] insha allah and I'll be with my dad in jennah too and we will have fun doing what we want there if Allah lets us."
In Judaism the word for hell is Gehenna.
Jennah and Gehenna.
If jennah is the abode of Allah, then they really are the same place, aren't they?
When ever some kid goes ballistic, jumps up and blows several of his school mates away, as at Virginia, tech, columbine, Illinois U, to mention only a few, the media is filled with the question, "were there any warning signs that might have prevented the tragedy?" Why didn't school counselors, friends, family, notice and report his anti-social, peculiar behavior?
This little punk is in our face with his threats. And he's telling us he has a mandate from Allah to kill unbelievers.
If this isn't a warning sign, what is?
The warning signs are everywhere in Mosques and Madrassas in the West, so why isn't anyone doing anything about it.
I suppose when he murders a bunch of innocent people, the media will conveniently forget about his threats, so as not to encourage Islamophobia.
PMK: Gehenna was the ash pit in Jerusalem where Jezabel's idols were buried.
"Hamza", one visitor to the site on 23 March this year, wrote about a friend's account of what his nine-year-old son, Rashid, had told him he would say if his father was killed by the kuffar [non-believers].
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There's projection for you. Telling this little boy that Infidels are likely to kill his father, when it is jihadists who are spending there time on sites like this plotting to kill unbelievers. Also, this is a form of child abuse, like so much of Islam--of course, a little boy is going to be upset if he thinks his father is likely to be killed!
from above:
He said the boy told him: "I don't care if you kill me cause I'm not afraid of you or to die for Allah, and I'll have a lot of wives in jennah [heaven] insha allah and I'll be with my dad in jennah too and we will have fun doing what we want there if Allah lets us.
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The first part of this sounds rote--how many nine-year-olds spend much time thinking about marriage, especially to those multiple wives? Having fun with his dad should be something this kid is doing now, instead of fantasizing about it after his dad has been killed by "the kuffar", and he himself will presumably die while killing infidels to get revenge. Even then, a little time with his dad will be on Allah's sufferance.
from above:
One reader, , , responded to the post by writing: "Mashallah [thanks be to god]...We could all learn something from the behaviour of children sometimes!! They sometimes say things so basic and plain, that when contemplated, makes so much sense!"...
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Yeah, because this is all so spontaneous. Kids do say the darndest things, when they are indoctrinated with the darndest things day and night.
"Hamza", one visitor to the site on 23 March this year, wrote about a friend's account of what his nine-year-old son, Rashid, had told him he would say if his father was killed by the kuffar [non-believers].
..........................
There's projection for you. Telling this little boy that Infidels are likely to kill his father, when it is jihadists who are spending there time on sites like this plotting to kill unbelievers. Also, this is a form of child abuse, like so much of Islam--of course, a little boy is going to be upset if he thinks his father is likely to be killed!
from above:
He said the boy told him: "I don't care if you kill me cause I'm not afraid of you or to die for Allah, and I'll have a lot of wives in jennah [heaven] insha allah and I'll be with my dad in jennah too and we will have fun doing what we want there if Allah lets us.
.........................
The first part of this sounds rote--how many nine-year-olds spend much time thinking about marriage, especially to those multiple wives? Having fun with his dad should be something this kid is doing now, instead of fantasizing about it after his dad has been killed by "the kuffar", and he himself will presumably die while killing infidels to get revenge. Even then, a little time with his dad will be on Allah's sufferance.
from above:
One reader, , , responded to the post by writing: "Mashallah [thanks be to god]...We could all learn something from the behaviour of children sometimes!! They sometimes say things so basic and plain, that when contemplated, makes so much sense!"...
..............................
Yeah, because this is all so spontaneous. Kids do say the darndest things, when they are indoctrinated with the darndest things day and night.
Ban Islam now.