Dhimmi Lama back at it again, reassuring all future Buddha-exploding Taliban and jihadists of his continued dhimmitude: “Dalai Lama defends Islam as peaceful religion,” from the AP, July 13:
BETHLEHEM, Pa.: The Dalai Lama said Sunday that "it's totally wrong, unfair" to call Islam a violent religion.Yes, like an end to jihad and Islamic fascism.The Tibetan spiritual leader, appearing at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, offered a defense of Islam in response to a question about the rise of violent religious fundamentalism. He added that he has made a point of reaching out to Muslims since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
The Dalai Lama arrived at Lehigh on Thursday for a series of talks on a 600-year-old Buddhist text. He took a break Sunday to lecture on "Generating a Good Heart," and afterward took questions from Lehigh President Alice P. Gast that had been submitted in advance by the public.
Asked why so many Americans are depressed and anxious, he joked: "I'm the wrong person to ask. You should ask Americans." Then he answered that U.S. society is too competitive and that people always want "something more, something more, something more."
Tell me again, what does the Dalai Lama offer in wisdom that isn't superceded by another source? I have been hearing about this man for years, and I still can't get it.
It certainly is the religion of peace the kind that is ready to blow infidels up, the kind that chops of heads of Buddhists monks. This is really appalling! I mean it is an evil ideology. Speak the dammed truth!!! He does not know what he is talking about. Another deluded Lama has his eyes covered with rose colored glasses. Jeez!! Giving another wrong message and perception, while the religion of peace will be gladly killing more Buddhists and Infidels. I mean it is like, we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
I really don't like him. I sorry about his plight and all, but he's full of it and always has been.
The Dalai Lama is as much a politician as he is a monk. That really limits what he can say. BTW if you look at his hangers on and followers here in the U.S. its mostly monied Hollywood types, academics and the liberal intelligensia. Were he to condemn Islam as the devils religion(which one Buddhist monk called it), he'd be as popular as Lyndon LaRouche.
Secondly the practice of Buddhism if one is dead serious about it does require one to see everyone else as having positive intentions just like themselves, or else you get reincarnated as a cockroach's leg or something equally as bad.
Also I think he kissed so much ass here in the west its second nature to him to now to utter politically correct statements all the time.
Still he shouldn't be singled out when there are many so-called Christian leaders willing to be dhimmis for Islam or those that are too busy remaking Jesus as some sort of cosmic banker or trying to get a food court inside their church to even care about encroaching Islam.
And on what basis does the Dalai Lama presume to say this? On the basis of study? Impressions gathered while meeting various Muslim leaders or others who assure him that Islam is just swell? Meetings with Uighurs who share a common enemy, and who brush aside any hint of the Jihads -- the last one was in 1930 (see "The Gobi" by Mildred Cable), and since then successive Chinese governments have kept the "Turkestan" probem manageable.
Perhaps the Dalai Lama suffers from paulingitis. That is a condition, named after Linus Pauling, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, who allowed himself to be taken, took himself, for a political sage. The Dalai Lama is a symbol of Tibetan refusal to role over and play dead, and of the very idea of cultural diversity; one wishes a free Tibet, among other reasons, so as to preserve a certain culture and way of life that is rapidly being sinified.
Does the Dalai Lama not know that the greatest force for cultural sameness, for monotonous, for flattening out, for ending diversity in one vast Umma, is Islam itself?
No, of course he doesn't. He doesn't have to think about these things. He's the Dalai Lama. He's practically a saint. We don't impose the same demands on him that we do on the rest of us, the tiresome non-saints here below.
The Great Barrier Reef has a dreadful predator, the Crown of Thorns starfish which arrives in great numbers and starts to devour the tiny colourful polyps that create the brilliance of the many-hued corals. Behind them, they leave huge swathes -- acres -- of bleached, dead corals...
Islam reminds me of this -- all the diversity and colour of different cultures, drained and bleached and deadened into white skeletal remains...
The Dalai Lama, chased out of Tibet and in exile, has talked peace and reconciliation since the Chinese attack against and occupation of Tibet and in the several decades during which he has insisted on his peaceful methods, the Chinese have administratively dismantled the immense land mass of traditional Tibet and incorporated large chunks of it into the adjoining Chinese provinces, looted and then destroyed virtually the entire religious infrastructure of Tibet—6,000 monasteries, temples and other sacred structures, killed innumerable monks and ordinary Tibetans, set up an extensive Gulag which houses many thousands of political prisoners, put in place a parallel state religious bureaucracy that now challenges the legitimacy of the indigenous Tibetan religious bureaucracy and is even putting forth its own candidates for the next Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama, the two most revered and powerful lamas in Tibetan Buddhism, has limited to a few years the Buddhist religious instruction for monks which used to encompass 16 years of study to reach the geshe (PhD) level, changed the language of instruction in Tibet’s schools and the language required for employment to Chinese, imported tens of thousands of subsidized Han Chinese colonists to dilute the native Tibetan population of this shrunken Tibet, torn down many of the traditional structures in the capital city of Lhassa and replaced them with Stalinist-type apartment blocks, constructed roads into the country to better and more quickly transport Chinese occupation troops, and rapaciously looted Tibet of it’s wealth of minerals, gold, precious stones, uranium and various wild animals all the while maliciously polluting and destroying Tibet’s environment and devastating it’s wildlife; hardly a success story for the Dalai’s approach.
From what I have read, the Dalai has been given an extraordinarily extensive Buddhist education that required the reading and analysis of an enormous number of very complex and esoteric books, yet, from his statement, he has either not even read the three rudimentary, fundamental texts of Islam—the Qur’an, the Hadiths and Sira--or he has read them but has totally misunderstood them, or he is dissembling.
Moreover, from his study of Buddhist history the Dalai Lama has to be aware that Muslims virtually exterminated Buddhism in Central Asia, have waged Jihad against buddhists in India and elsewhere for the last 1,400 years and are doing so at this very moment all over the world, in India, Malaysia and elsewhere.
In the last few years the Dalai has made a number of statements supporting, excusing or totally mischaracterizing Islam. I used to think him a great man, I don’t think this anymore nor do I consider him a serious figure whose views should be paid any heed.
If anyone would study and believe what happened in Tibet before the communists entered, they might not be so sympathetic to the Dhimwitted Lama.
Me thinks the venerated (by some) Dalai Lama hast been snorting too many cannabis flavoured joss sticks!
hey I'm sure he is a nice guy, maybe a really nice guy, but he deludes himself if he thinks the Muslims will accomodate Buddhism if they got the upper hand. Obviously, no one is looking to him for moral support.
The dalai lama ways have tottaly failed to free tibet from the iron grip of the chinese. this dalai lame had nothing to say when the taliban destroyed the buddhist statues. it were the westerners who protested loudly.If he had any guts he would have made the statues philgrimige for all buddhists. But no not a word about the statues not aword about the peaceful buddhist afghans who were forced to convert to muslims, nothing about the rich buddhist history of afghanistan. one can't but help compare this guy to the many palastinian crybabies who are treated as if they are the most wronged people who ever lived in the past and present. this dalai lama is a complete failure and tibetans should rise up and throw out the chinese from their lands.
"The Dalai Lama said Sunday that "it's totally wrong, unfair" to call Islam a violent religion."
Well I think that people who make their kids saw off the heads of animals are violent. Could be that I'm wrong. And here's the history of jihad. Somebody pass along this link to the Dalai Lama.
http://historyofjihad.org
A year or two ago we complained to Dalai Lama's administration about what Dalai Lama says about islam. Their response was surprisingly clear: we know exactly what islam is but we are not going to acknowledge it publicly.
It's a shame. I mean, it's politics.
One person can only fight so much. You have to pick your battles carefully. The Dalai Lama obviously has chosen China; everyone else becomes more or less a friend. He seemed more effective when he was silent anyway.
Dalai-lala-Lama: “Man of Faith” or Fool for the World?
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/07/14/dalai-lala-lama-man-of-faith-or-fool-for-the-world/
Oh sure
"it's totally wrong, unfair" to call Islam a violent religion.
only page up page down about slaying unbelievers and those who dare to criticize the religion of peace.
A religion that mandatory murder apostates is of course only violent in the eyes of the misunderstanders, it’s so unfair to call murder violence.
The theocrats stick together. Tibet under the lamas was a medieval serf/slave theocracy, that don’t make Chinese rule more right but Tibet was no lost Shangri-la only another cruel and brutal backward country ruled by religious feudal landlords.
"Engelbrekt" -- nom de poste above, which I just noticed.
Are you a conceivable descendant of Engelbrekt Engelbrektson, killed by Magnus Bengtson, of the Natt och Dag clan at Goksholm, or did you simply
choose "Engelbrekt" for the same historico-sonorous reasons that a French poster might, as his nom de poste, choose "Gontran" or an Italian choose "Aleramo"?
What makes the spiritual head of Mahayana Buddhism an expert on any other religion? It's like the Pope stating that Buddhism advocates violence.
Looks like the Dalai Lama is the anti-Mohammed: just as Mohammed made up stuff about Judaism (all negative) and promoted it as fact, the Dalai Lama makes up stuff about Islam (all positive) and promotes that as true. Well, not too many negative things to make up about Islam - what's already there is enough to make a disbelieving unbeliever's head spin
BETHLEHEM, Pa.: The Dalai Lama said Sunday that "it's totally wrong, unfair" to call Islam a violent religion.
The Tibetan spiritual leader, appearing at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, offered a defense of Islam in response to a question about the rise of violent religious fundamentalism. He added that he has made a point of reaching out to Muslims since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
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When I was a young man, I lived in he buddhist monastic community that first brought the Dalai Lama to the US.
But the abbot of the monastery, who of course was delighted to have him over in the US, had an entirely different view of Islam than what the Dalai Lama expresses these days. In fact, I'm going to tell a story and perhaps it will translate or perhaps not.
He was an imposing old man, he was brilliant, prescient, and he was a man who I found very much making me consider my jewish religion which later became my faith because of his imposing character
as a man, citizen, adviser, and helper of humans in the best senses of those words.
Anyway, one day, we're alone in his small living room and he asks me 'What you think of arab jewish problem..? He asks in a conversational mood.
Me, I'm young and frankly he was an overwhelming sort of old guy and here I was, and now my young ego was just jumping at my zen question, which I perceived as his intent. So, in the best, universalist, world peace, hyperliberal bit, that I no longer believed in, but still mouthed for whatever reasons, I became to explain that the Jews had been holocauted, tortured, expelled, humiliated, abused and survived and could show that only by overcoming our limitations and sharing our loses and hopes, only then could we show them how to live in true peace and accept each other.
It sounded living, universalist, peaceful, manly, and I think deep down, I thought'what a beautiful peaceful quiescent man I've just shown to my teacher'
And I asked him...sir, what do you think of the arab jewish problems?
He smiled a little smile to me... and I knew instinctively, from my being around him, what it meant. I didn't want to believe it, but my body knew something of what was coming, before my brain figured it out.
His smile was the smile that one gets when they go into the room of the intensive care unit at the hospital, and the nurse is coming out and you compulsively ask, 'how's he doing' hoping by asking you'll get positive news.
And the nurse smiles that terribly forgiving smile,
and says... 'the doctors are doing everything they can'
So this fine old man, this old lama, who I have, to this day, long after his death, so much regard and respect for,he smiles that little smile, at me...that same type of smile the nurse gives you in the intensive care unit
after my world peace speech, that in my heart- in my heart, I knew was bs- but I thought back then that that's what I was supposed to think.
He smiles and he looks at me...this wonderful old man,this brilliant old monk, who would never express such sentiments about religions and such, and who was now going to tell me what he thought.
And this is what he said. Quietly, he looked into my eyes, and said...'Islam, is a devil's religion'
My mind stopped like a train, on the tracks. It couldn't go, it couldn't turn back, and I recall that look in his eyes that would haunt me just like these words of his would for 15 yrs.
I thought silently...'screw him' as my mind couldn't, wouldn't allow me to entertain such thoughts. As I smiled falsely back at him.
I am haunted by his words 30 yrs later, because he was a gifted man, in many ways and I knew back then that I'd never heard him utter ideas that didn't how some large amount of worth, however they were expressed but then... then, I was incapable of hearing them. So I ignored them, and my zen moment was very confusing. But prescient they were and I never forgot his quiet warning.
Over the years I began to read about Islam and meet people from that world and I got disturbing signs. Disturbing inclinings of what he had intimated about the religion, that my hyperliberal trained university mind had disallowed.
Until the events of the 80's and the bombings and terrorism of Islam became so apparent, and then, the murder of Rabbi Kahane, the first world trade center bombing and on and on and on.
Then I read the Oslo peace accords and read what the PLO wrote and I thought, 'this is madness'. 'They will use this to deceive and cause more and more war...' and so on, and since then, it's been
thanks to that lama, that old fine man, who's words I followed up, during the next month, way back then, by studying what happened to the buddhists in india in the 11th century, and the total destruction at Nalanda, and the end of Indian buddhism under the tyranny and onslaught of Islam.
And I remember the terrible and uncomfortable feelings I felt, challenging my 'world peace paradigm' that I thought was the true zen position in my young mind... a false view that took me years to overcome.
And now... I listen to the DL, who I was never particularly impressed with- his tutors were more impressive to me, when I briefly met two of them.
But his world peace bit, was flat, and seemingly without meaning given the history and beliefs of Islam. And his bit with telling the Israeli's to negotiate with hamas, after Gush Katif was surrendered seem beyond inane and as sanctimonious as any of the hyperliberals who flocked to his side.
And I am haunted by that brilliant old lama's words, the lama who's monastery the DL was first at when he came to america, 'Islam...is a devil's religion'.
I know, there are lot's of nice muslim people who are just like me and you but they have no power to prevent or change any of the homicidism, the tyranny nor the world's submission that the history of Islam shows as the foundation of it's belief system from it's 'prophet' and it's source.
Mark
There MAY have been a time when the Dalai Lama was a concerned Tibetan wanting to liberate his people. But over the years he has become totally Hollywoodized and is just one more celebrity clown. I really doubt he means one word he says about mohammedism or anything else and if he does it really doesn't matter and neither does the Dalai Lama.
Traditional Tibet was, indeed, a medieval theocracy, a state run by indigenous Tibetan Buddhist officials and it had what we would regard as many faults—there were beggars, there was poverty and illiteracy--it was backward but, the people were, apparently, generally happy and it was the Tibetan’s way. While the Tibetans had been fierce and aggressive warriors—animists--in past centuries before they were converted to Buddhism, at the time they were invaded and occupied, the Tibetans in accordance with Buddhist pacifism, were threatening no one and had only a minuscule army, armed mostly with ancient muskets, halberds, bows and arrows and swords.
In China, the Chinese communists staged innumerable and decade’s long, bloody ideological campaigns against the traditional ruling classes, the “landlords” and others and killed or imprisoned them and confiscated their lands to be assembled into large collective farms; estimated death toll, 70,000,000 or so.
In Tibet, the Chinese communists have pursued a ferocious attack against the whole of Tibetan’s traditional religion, government and culture and, as part of the Chinese propaganda effort, they have dredged up every example of the excesses “feudalism’ they could—they even have a museum featuring pictures of beggars, unrepentant thieves whose hands were cut off and the cangue (a large billet of wood was put around the necks of criminals and they had to walk around carrying this burden)--that they use to justify their invasion “for the Tibetan’s own good.” A few Feudal “horrors” or not, I hardly think that the Chinese have invaded, occupied and looted Tibet for the “good” of the Tibetans.
The Tibetans should have been left alone, in control of their country and able to develop and sort things out as they wished.
I see parallels with Muslims trying to take us over, actions justified in their minds by the Qur’an, Hadiths and Sira as being “for our own good” and as fulfilling the commands of the one true God.
The meek shall inherit the Earth, (If the rest of you don't mind).
The Dali Lameass should try telling this to all the Buddhists in Afghanistan.
Whoops...can't... coz they were exterminated by the peaceful Muslim invaders.
(Remnants of the original Buddhist [and pre-Buddhist] culture of Afghanistan can be seen at the fascinating exhibit currently at the Washington D.C. National Gallery of Art entitled "Hidden Treasures of the Afghan National Museum" tour. The stuff the peaceful Taliban missed)
Pacifists just make the rest of us do double work.
I might also point out that by seizing the strategically placed, mineral rich Tibet, China nearly doubled its land area.
"Engelbrekt" -- nom de poste above, which I just noticed.
Are you a conceivable descendant of Engelbrekt Engelbrektson, killed by Magnus Bengtson, of the Natt och Dag clan at Goksholm, or did you simply …
I don’t believe I’m a decedent of Engelbrekt, :-)
took it as poster name because it’s a well known local historical name and person. A name and myth that have become a symbol that have been used by both right and left to symbolize national independence.
Engelbrekt Engelbrektsson (1390s – May 4, 1436) was a Swedish rebel leader and later statesman. He was the leader of the Engelbrekt rebellion in 1434 against Eric of Pomerania, king of the Kalmar Union. …
Wikipedia
Killed by Magnus (Måns) Bengtsson, the murder probably instigated by Magnus father Bengt Stensson. Måns is the short form of Magnus. Magnus Bengtsson get his surename from his fathers given name Bengt – Bengt’s son. Magnus/Måns Bengtssons children got the name Johan Månsson (Mån’s son) and the daughter Birgitta Månsdotter (Mån’s daughter).
Natt och dag means night and day, the clan name come from that they had distinctive dark and bright color on their coat of arms.
Engelbrekt freedom fight wasn’t necessarily the best outcome, if the Kalmar Union had survived it could have made the foundation for a very different Nordic country that would probably have been distinct and powerful in European politics.
Pacifists are political parasites
who depend on those who willing shoulder
the karma of war to survive.
Sorry, it should be 'willing to shoulder'
The Dalai Lama is not just a dhimmi
but he is arrogantly ignorant,
a muslimologist,
who gets his knowledge from muslims,
not a foundationalist
who studies the doctrinal source texts.
He is doing evil
(ignorance = evil in Buddhist doctrine)
by spreading these lies
and according to his own belief system,
he is accumulating karma
he will have to work out in another lifetime.
I hope he will be reborn
a muslim woman in Afghanistan.
poetess - You are 100% correct about pacifists. Their belief systems would last a single generation without someone able and willing to keep the Hitlers and Mohammeds at bay.
So tell me again, why do they call it a "religion?"
He's clearly forgotten the origins of Tibetan Buddhism itself. Buddhism was first brought to Tibet by monks fleeing slaughter by Islamic invaders of the Indian sub-continent. Buddhism was practically annihilated across Central Asia and Northern India by the Mohammedan invaders - what little remained escaped to Tibet. Hinduism, on the other hand is not suicidally pacifist like Buddhism, although Buddhist dhimmitude has been internalised by Hindus as a virtue. This is manifested by the adoption of the Gandhimmian state of Emperor Ashoka as its ideological mascot, with the Mohammedan butcher Emperor Akbar as the other poster boy of "composite culture" - a euphemism for the literal bastardisation of India - as a result of the involuntary servitude of millions of Hindu women under Islamic slavery in medieval times.
Engelbrekt --
1) "Natt och Dag" in its closed-up variant, "Nattochdag," appears as a proper and even possibly Zemblan name in "Pale Fire."
2) Is Goksholm an island? If so, did Magnus Bengtson kill Engelbrektsson in a duel on that island, that is to say in a holmgang, or did he simply attack him outside of a formal contest?
3) Are you writing from Sweden?
Karyakarta: Actually, Buddhism was brought to Tibet by a Chinese princess sent to the Tibetan king by the Tang emperors back in the 8th century to shore up an alliance.
The Dalai Lama could learn from Pope Benedict XVI who often spoke about the need for both faith and reason, which Islam as far as the latter goes, does not have.